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anyone play SWR?
« on: May 30, 2008, 10:18:43 AM »
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pls post a hamachi room or irc channel   :D

i created one:  SWR-cardslash!   pw: swr
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 10:22:55 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 01:43:50 PM »
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 08:52:27 PM »
Since Mauve already said everything I was going to post....

Me. I'm messing around with Sakuya and Aya right now. Unfortunately my Sakuya doesn't come stock with a few of my old favorite moves (Frozen Knives, ZA WARUDO), so I'ma need to play a LOT more.
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 01:41:22 AM »
I've gone playing story mode with Udonge on lunatic. This shit is sick, she faces Remi, Yuyuko, Yukari, and the moe moe final boss, tenshi. Are there no other mistresses for her to face, god bleeding damn it?
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 05:49:35 AM »
Nobody plays SWR because it sucks.

Oh, and I wrote the wiki page on Remilia, minus the frame data/intro/some combos.  I hate this game for nerfing her.

Also, I like that some people have final bosses other than Tenshi (who doesn't seem that moe to me), like Yukari and Reimu.  Not that I play the game or anything, because it sucks.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 07:36:48 AM »
Oh, and I wrote the wiki page on Remilia, minus the frame data/intro/most combos.  I hate this game for nerfing her.

Sorry, but in IaMP she was cursing broken.
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2008, 09:05:28 AM »
I've gone playing story mode with Udonge on lunatic. This shit is sick, she faces Remi, Yuyuko, Yukari, and the moe moe final boss, tenshi. Are there no other mistresses for her to face, god bleeding damn it?
This reminds me...

Do Tenshi's spell cards LAG anyone else's game? or is my PC just utter shit?
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2008, 09:45:08 AM »
Oh, and I wrote the wiki page on Remilia, minus the frame data/intro/most combos.  I hate this game for nerfing her.

Sorry, but in IaMP she was cursing broken.
Uh, broken?  She was A tier, but it's not like the tiers were that far apart to begin with.  She was damn good, but hardly broken.  And now she's been super nerfed.  She not only had her third air dash stripped away, but also can't fly.  Let me repeat that last bit for you.  Remilia can't fly, yet she's the only character with wings.  Because, you know, that makes plenty sense.  Also they did mean things that made old stuff useless or severely lame now.  I mean, fuck.  She doesn't get a fly, nor any running attacks (not that she has a run either), nor any variation on her B or C shots (beside shooting them in two directions, which most people at least get 3 different directions if they have no other variations), nor any sort of beam projectile (which are all overpowered btw), plus nerfing most of her default specials and one of her supers.  How much more can you shit on her?  Turn her into China?  It's disgusting.  She should have been nerfed, yes, but not this much.  NERRRRRD RAAAAAAGE.

But it's not like I'm hating on the game purely because my character is shit now.  The command interpreter is way too lax and weather sucks huge sweaty penis.  It needs some patching before it really becomes worth playing, and I'm not the only one who is saying this.  The good thing is that we're sure to see some patches come about sooner or later, and with the power of optimism on my side, I'm sure this game can become something at least on par with IaMP.

TL;DR: The game sucks and nobody plays it, with a side of nerd rage over Remilia nerfs.

Also Desu, it's just your computer.  No lag on mine at all.
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 10:34:31 AM »
Oh, and I wrote the wiki page on Remilia, minus the frame data/intro/most combos.  I hate this game for nerfing her.
Sorry, but in IaMP she was cursing broken.
No. Not even. Marisa is the only one who can possibly be called broken in the 'too strong' way, Patchouli and Meiling in the 'too weak'. If you think she is broken in either way in IaMP, you do not know how to play. And even better, there's only like one American player who's actually got a scary Remilia, and that's bell, and he's not unbeatable.

SWR isn't really worth playing above scrub level right now anyhow. I don't think it ever will be for me as I fundamentally hate flight, but right now both weather and the risk/reward ratios are all fucked up.

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 07:07:25 PM »
Oh, and I wrote the wiki page on Remilia, minus the frame data/intro/most combos.  I hate this game for nerfing her.
Sorry, but in IaMP she was cursing broken.
No. Not even. Marisa is the only one who can possibly be called broken in the 'too strong' way, Patchouli and Meiling in the 'too weak'. If you think she is broken in either way in IaMP, you do not know how to play. And even better, there's only like one American player who's actually got a scary Remilia, and that's bell, and he's not unbeatable.

SWR isn't really worth playing above scrub level right now anyhow. I don't think it ever will be for me as I fundamentally hate flight, but right now both weather and the risk/reward ratios are all fucked up.


yeah all the weather and that junk is what is messing it up for me right now but its still fun to play.

I enjoy playing alice how does she stand up overall in this game,
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2008, 07:42:39 PM »
I started messing around with this a while go.  I've never played IaMP before, but I think I have the basics down now.  I started off with Marisa, heard she sucks donkey balls now, and am now messing around with Sakuya.

LoliSauce = Q FUCKING Q MAN.  Characters that can't fly and have wings?  Man, that's old news.  Eddie can fly in GG and he technically doesn't have wings... but Dizzy can't fly at all and she has wings too!  Then again, maybe her bubz weigh her down. :(
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2008, 10:58:15 PM »
I started messing around with this a while go.  I've never played IaMP before, but I think I have the basics down now.  I started off with Marisa, heard she sucks donkey balls now, and am now messing around with Sakuya.

LoliSauce = Q FUCKING Q MAN.  Characters that can't fly and have wings?  Man, that's old news.  Eddie can fly in GG and he technically doesn't have wings... but Dizzy can't fly at all and she has wings too!  Then again, maybe her bubz weigh her down. :(
Lol, yeah.  Those bubz are pretty hefty.  Remi doesn't exactly have anything at all to weigh her down though, since she's so lolilicious.

Sakuya's Dio Brando counter skillcard is fucking awesome.  I'm just waiting for the day she finally gets the Steamroller.  lol.  I also like her new type of delayed knives (the skillcard, not her 2c) since you can manually fire them off early if you set another one out.  Seems potentially real useful.  Her new timestop caught me off guard when I was checking her out though, since you can actually do anything you can normally do, instead of restricting to just knives and teleport.  It seems a little too good, since you should be able to either do nice damage on hit or guaranteed guard break on block.  Her new spellcards don't really seem that amazing though.  =\
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2008, 11:20:18 PM »
I play youmu and suika, lots of fun, alice seems alot stronger now too. :3

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2008, 11:25:06 PM »
Lol, yeah.  Those bubz are pretty hefty.  Remi doesn't exactly have anything at all to weigh her down though, since she's so lolilicious.

Sakuya's Dio Brando counter skillcard is fucking awesome.  I'm just waiting for the day she finally gets the Steamroller.  lol.  I also like her new type of delayed knives (the skillcard, not her 2c) since you can manually fire them off early if you set another one out.  Seems potentially real useful.  Her new timestop caught me off guard when I was checking her out though, since you can actually do anything you can normally do, instead of restricting to just knives and teleport.  It seems a little too good, since you should be able to either do nice damage on hit or guaranteed guard break on block.  Her new spellcards don't really seem that amazing though.  =\

I don't really like her alternate 214B/C as much as her regular 214B/C.  The regular version seems to have really good okizeme options, but I haven't really experimented with anything yet.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2008, 12:12:59 AM »
Lol, yeah.  Those bubz are pretty hefty.  Remi doesn't exactly have anything at all to weigh her down though, since she's so lolilicious.

Sakuya's Dio Brando counter skillcard is fucking awesome.  I'm just waiting for the day she finally gets the Steamroller.  lol.  I also like her new type of delayed knives (the skillcard, not her 2c) since you can manually fire them off early if you set another one out.  Seems potentially real useful.  Her new timestop caught me off guard when I was checking her out though, since you can actually do anything you can normally do, instead of restricting to just knives and teleport.  It seems a little too good, since you should be able to either do nice damage on hit or guaranteed guard break on block.  Her new spellcards don't really seem that amazing though.  =\

I don't really like her alternate 214B/C as much as her regular 214B/C.  The regular version seems to have really good okizeme options, but I haven't really experimented with anything yet.
Eh, I wouldn't really know what's best or not for her, since I'm not that familiar with anyone besides Remi.  I only went through each character in practice mode and checked out their entire moveset/skillcards/spellcards just to see it all.  That way I could get a feel for what specials immediately appeal to me most, and I could set up preliminary decks for everyone under my profile.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2008, 12:59:29 AM »
Another pretty cool one is Reisen, given that you can zone your opponent well. That field she creates can pretty much save your life, or, if you use the purple one, increase it madly.

Besides, her artwork is  :fap:able as fuck. As well as suika's.(although I'd have liked the madly joyful loli design better for her)
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2008, 03:07:52 AM »
Another pretty cool one is Reisen, given that you can zone your opponent well. That field she creates can pretty much save your life, or, if you use the purple one, increase it madly.

Besides, her artwork is  :fap:able as fuck. As well as suika's.(although I'd have liked the madly joyful loli design better for her)
Mm, Reisen seemed too dependant on those fields to be awesome for me.  *shrugs*  I guess she just didn't really interest me enough to want to play her much.  Of all the new characters, Iku and Komachi seem the most interesting to me.  They're both mad slow though.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2008, 03:18:05 AM »
She's not that dependent on them. She's also got some nice tricking attacks, and she's capable of dealing pretty decent damage.
I got to know her quite a lot after doing her story mode again and again and again until I managed to beat it.
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Re: anyone play SWR?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 10:16:43 AM »
This game is fun.

It needs patching, but it is fun.

Also Remi's changes just mean that you need to play her differently, it does not mean she was nerfed at all.

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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2008, 02:30:33 PM »
im sticking to alice, sword loli, and that butterfly girl for now.  Alice has some pretty sick traps.

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 12:17:14 AM »
This game is fun.

It needs patching, but it is fun.

Also Remi's changes just mean that you need to play her differently, it does not mean she was nerfed at all.
When everyone in the game can just run/fly through practically any amount of projectile spam EXCEPT FOR REMILIA, I'd consider it a nerf.
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2008, 10:14:03 AM »
This game is fun.

It needs patching, but it is fun.

Also Remi's changes just mean that you need to play her differently, it does not mean she was nerfed at all.
When everyone in the game can just run/fly through practically any amount of projectile spam EXCEPT FOR REMILIA, I'd consider it a nerf.

Remilia can move so god damn fast that she can hit the ground in between spells even ones like butterfly and immediatly dash again, she is still good, and she can just keep you under pressure getting away from her if your a slow char is freking hard, plus her air down melee is freking retarted.

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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2008, 03:13:32 PM »
This game is fun.

It needs patching, but it is fun.

Also Remi's changes just mean that you need to play her differently, it does not mean she was nerfed at all.
When everyone in the game can just run/fly through practically any amount of projectile spam EXCEPT FOR REMILIA, I'd consider it a nerf.

Remilia can move so god damn fast that she can hit the ground in between spells even ones like butterfly and immediatly dash again, she is still good, and she can just keep you under pressure getting away from her if your a slow char is freking hard, plus her air down melee is freking retarted.
Yes, you can ground dash repeatedly to dodge spells, but you can't in the air.  They took away her third air dash as well, which compounds with her very short melee range to make her pretty weak in the air.  Add that to the fact that basically all of her good damage comes from ground combos in the corner, and you have someone that's a little weaker than the majority of the cast.  I'm not saying she's completely unplayable, but that she is seriously nerfed.
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2008, 03:39:07 PM »
This game is fun.

It needs patching, but it is fun.

Also Remi's changes just mean that you need to play her differently, it does not mean she was nerfed at all.
When everyone in the game can just run/fly through practically any amount of projectile spam EXCEPT FOR REMILIA, I'd consider it a nerf.

Remilia can move so god damn fast that she can hit the ground in between spells even ones like butterfly and immediatly dash again, she is still good, and she can just keep you under pressure getting away from her if your a slow char is freking hard, plus her air down melee is freking retarted.
Yes, you can ground dash repeatedly to dodge spells, but you can't in the air.  They took away her third air dash as well, which compounds with her very short melee range to make her pretty weak in the air.  Add that to the fact that basically all of her good damage comes from ground combos in the corner, and you have someone that's a little weaker than the majority of the cast.  I'm not saying she's completely unplayable, but that she is seriously nerfed.

shes decent mid screen 2100dmg 2A,2C,j.5C,dash,6A.

plus it knocks to corner for nice bonus.

what is a good corner combo for her I can't get above 2700dmg without using cards, or using 214B/C before hand.
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