day -3 mvc3

[abitofBaileys]

Looks really,


really stupid.


lol

[FataCon]

Arthur has equally to just as bad health

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/TheDuskwalker/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25906729

800k to 420k? that's almost double. stop it chibi.

[WYVERN LORD]

Looks really,


really stupid.

those were my thoughts exactly

then I played it and I decided that it's even dumber than it looks

but it's still more fun than sf4 ever was, I probably will enjoy playing this for a month or so before x-factor into 10-way mixup into 100% combo makes me quit games forever

[F9|Chibi]

Arthur has equally to just as bad health

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/TheDuskwalker/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25906729

800k to 420k? that's almost double. stop it chibi.

Does it say how much it is when he loses his armor?

[Zaelar]

Troll response: Does it say how much you gain when you activate super armor?

Actual response: He doesn't gain or lose any with armor changes.  Whether or not he takes more/less damage could be a possibility though.

Also chibi may have already forgotten that Arthur has projectiles that destroy phoenix's homing projectiles and keep going to hit her.  The only way I could get one out is if I made him block an assist.

You don't have to play hulk to kill phoenix in one combo:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_APiY9nEycw  Phoenix does have the option of spending 5 meters to make you need to hit her twice to kill her though.

[Rokunaya]

This game looked mad casual/dumb before it even came out, but now I'm just feeling's it's more like that now

[Zaelar]

The game is designed around being stupid.

[F9|Chibi]

I complain about her but it's not keeping me from enjoying the game. Just venting.

There's way too much untapped bullshit in this game to just throw it to the side, and it being easier to play doesn't keep it from being enjoyable either.

[Rokunaya]

Can't argue with that, but hey, 'dumb' = 'hype' to America.

IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEEE

And yeah I'll wait til I play with you guys before I finally decide, but I'll be honest when I said I thought this game was going to be trash from the get-go and it seems I'm turning out right so far |:

[F9|Chibi]

It's not trash.

There's plenty in MB that's akin to the stupidity that makes a game like MvC3 so enjoyable.

You've just never really played a VS game so it's hard for you to see what makes it so much fun.

[f-wlen ice loop]

melty's stupidity has never killed a character in 1 combo from 100% health

mvc3 is dumb and chibi is going to quit in a month or two like every other fg

EDIT: not including the older broken versions of melty before anyone posts some gay ass response about mb or mbr or boss aoko or g-akiha/dust of osiris whatever the fuck, you know what i'm talking about

[Dusk Thanatos]

So, I have examined the facts of this world.

OUGON MUSOU KYOKU

ABC ABC META SUPER

MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 3

ABCS ABCS OTG SUPER

We can safely conclude one thing, gentlemen.

MvC3 is OMK with one more button.

[Rokunaya]

So, I have examined the facts of this world.

OUGON MUSOU KYOKU

ABC ABC META SUPER

MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 3

ABCS ABCS OTG SUPER

We can safely conclude one thing, gentlemen.

MvC3 is OMK with one more button.

Godlike

[Zaelar]

melty's stupidity has never killed a character in 1 combo from 100% health

But it has been in 1 move.

[UNREAL BLACK THING]

Imbalances already?
Yay. I'd rather keep playing MvC2 :/

[FataCon]

mvc2 was vastly different in terms of metagame compared to the other games in the vs series. that's why it took so many years to get to its final, competitive state. though system mechanics have been tweaked, the overall mindset, flow, and strategy are very similar. so, it's not too surprising that a lot of broken stuff has been found already. you guys act like games with broken tiers don't get played competitively anyway.

plus, a lot of people are playing it safe by saying "this game is bad". games like 3s and mvc2 didn't garner faithful appreciation until later on in their lifespans. it could very well be the same with mvc3 or it could not be. nobody knows. the game isn't even officially out yet, and most people haven't played the final build. see how the first month goes.

p.s. i think bread folks just be mad that next-gen, HD MB isn't out yet.

p.s.s. sent is h-koha.

[MasterT]

don't worry guys we still have the rest of today to declare the game dead because of imbalance before its official release we can't give up now

[Zaelar]

mvc2 was vastly different in terms of metagame compared to the other games in the vs series.

How so?

[yui]

Also chibi may have already forgotten that Arthur has projectiles that destroy phoenix's homing projectiles and keep going to hit her.  The only way I could get one out is if I made him block an assist.

speculationnnnnnnngogogo:

i was wondering, since i haven't seen any phoenix's try this yet, couldn't you just bait any projectile, teleport behind him/above him/whereever and punish with a full combo? she can teleport while jumping too so i'm thinking you could sj.fireballs and teleport around to the other side while he throws something and even if he pushes you out again, the homing fireballs would still be err homing so he has to block em eventually or get hit.
i'm thinking maybe you really don't need to actually play fireball war with someone like arthur when you're phoenix.

Yeah, I'm complaining about a character who can resurrect herself, but who loses life after resurrection, but can then use a super to drain YOUR life and gain hers back, or that can even be tagged out and gain her health back anyway, while still being in that form until being tagged back in. On top of which she gets MULTIPLE HITTING HOMING PROJECTILES she can throw out in her normal mode. Arthur has no ground dash, no air dash, and shit mobility. He needs assists to cover the ground that this bitch can just super jump and chuck out on her own. Big shit she loses health, Arthur has equally to just as bad health, and probably the worst when he loses his armor.

dark phoenix is annoying as all hell. i think this site needs a trauma emoticon to really do it justice.

kindly (with your other non-arthur non-zoning characters) use your snapback early in the match, bring phoenix in and destroy her unmercifully. use lockdown assists (jam session etc.) to cover mixups and get back in against pushblock and never let us speak of trying to fight dark phoenix ever again especially with morrigan or x 23.

[Zaelar]

I was thinking about using phoenix's teleport like that but I didn't know how to do it when we played.  Not sure if it would work or not but it is worth trying.  Also his projectile destroys my homing projectile if they collide which I imagine they still would.

I told chibi to snap her in and kill her before I had meter but he fails.

[FataCon]

mvc2 was vastly different in terms of metagame compared to the other games in the vs series.

How so?

well first off, the previous installment in the series (mvc1) played vastly different. aside from game mechanics (like near limitless assists and snapbacks), simply having a 3rd character changed team synergy a lot. character combinations and assist combinations to try out vastly outnumbered those in the previous vs games. even midtier characters were playable with the right assists. teams could be composed of 2 rushdown with 1 good assist (MSP) or completely reliant on 1 rushdown, 1 assist, and your choice (clockw0rk). i don't think the devs had storm spamming normals to gain meter in mind or that doom rocks plus strider orbs would generate as much meter as they do when paired up. sentinel, himself, changed the aerial game in the vs series with fly/unfly shenanigans (not counting CotA). plus, the scene for fighting games had started to evolve at that point already. was there even a competitive scene for XvsSF? lastly, look how many times the "top tier teams" changed (cable and blackheart anyone?).

speculationnnnnnnngogogo:

no need to speculate with the new SRK vids, if you haven't seen it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3BWiFSJMYY

I told chibi to snap her in and kill her before I had meter but he fails.

can you still combo into snapbacks like in mvc2?

[Zaelar]

You just described how the game is different, not the metagame.

I'm pretty sure you can still combo into snapback.

[WYVERN LORD]

metagame is a dumb word

fancyshmancy way of saying "advanced strategies"

just as "metaphysical" implies the there is something outside THIS WORLD, "metagame" implies that there is something outside the game

in my hometown we call that "real life"

 

[FataCon]

You just described how the game is different, not the metagame.

the differences in the games themselves contributed to the evolution of mvc2. without those character/systems changes, the game wouldn't have all those possibilities to mess with. and, i somewhat touched upon it. storm whiffs and strider/doom are specific examples. the devs didn't foresee these characters being used for these tactics. i'm sure that sentinel wasn't designed for mvc2 to be played the way he was. you didn't see that in early mvc2. can you even think of metagame for earlier vs titles?

metagame is a dumb word

fancyshmancy way of saying "advanced strategies"

i can agree with that. i just use it cause i figure people get what i'm saying when i use it. it is, however, a legit term. it doesn't simply apply to advanced strategies though; moreso along the lines of finding potential where it wasn't intended to be found in inherent design.

[Rokunaya]

metagame is a dumb word

fancyshmancy way of saying "advanced strategies"

just as "metaphysical" implies the there is something outside THIS WORLD, "metagame" implies that there is something outside the game

in my hometown we call that "real life"

 

If only your F-Arc was as strong as your godlike