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Misaki Town Bakery => Akiha's Tea Room => : LoliSauce February 22, 2010, 11:21:45 PM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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My soul is calling out once again. It's time for my annual Ogre Battle 64 playthrough. This game is something like my holy grail; however, I'm not here to preach about why I love the game.
Now, I know that replaying games isn't a big deal to many people, but personally, there are extremely few games that I will play any more than once. If there's some reason for replay value, such as new game + or whatever, I'll usually play until I get full completion and that's it. For a game to make me want to play it beyond that...it has to be truly extraordinary. The only exception to this, of course, would be games based around repetition such as competitive multiplayer games (and even then, usually those types don't hold me well).
So, with that in mind, what are those games that regularly give you the urge to revisit them?
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Final Fantasy IV and any variant thereof. What? A linear single ending RPG?
I know I'm biased as hell towards this game, but this is the game that got me interested in reading as a kid. While that childhood illusion of Square being the Scion of Gaming has loooooong past, I still adore this game. I love the setting, I like (most) of the characters, and the overall gameplay (as dated and overused as the system is).
The other games I've obsessed over include Alundra and SaGa Frontier (rather anything from the SaGa Series other than Unlimited SaGa). I used to be a huge RPG fanatic until I discovered Fighting games.
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Final Fantasy IV and any variant thereof. What? A linear single ending RPG?
I know I'm biased as hell towards this game, but this is the game that got me interested in reading as a kid. While that childhood illusion of Square being the Scion of Gaming has loooooong past, I still adore this game. I love the setting, I like (most) of the characters, and the overall gameplay (as dated and overused as the system is).
The other games I've obsessed over include Alundra and SaGa Frontier (rather anything from the SaGa Series other than Unlimited SaGa). I used to be a huge RPG fanatic until I discovered Fighting games.
I'm still big on RPGs, but I've gotten majorly bored with the usual generic stuff. If it isn't very engaging or doesn't have some sort of innovative feature, I just end up wondering why I'm spending time playing it. lol. SRPGs though, I tend to be more lenient towards, as they're probably my favorite gaming genre altogether.
You know, I still to this day haven't had the chance to play any of the SaGa games, though I've always been curious to. They're that good?
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Saga Frontier two is a ton of fun. A bit short though...
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I'd recommend the SaGa games. They're a little odd as far as RPGs go, but they're customizable as hell and pretty non-linear with their multiple storylines and (mostly) open ended exploration.
Romancing SaGa 3 is the one most people think is 'the best', though I have a soft spot for SaGa Frontier (even though most people couldn't stand it because the game is weird as hell and doesn't ever tell you where you're supposed to go). I'd personally say start with Romancing SaGa 3 (the translation can be found pretty easily) or SaGa Frontier 2 if you wanted to get into the series. None of the games really take place in the same world or have congruent storylines, so you can play them in any order.
The Seiken Densetsu / Mana series is really good up until Legend of Mana. Anything after that is pretty much garbage.
Fuck you loli. Now I want to play RPGs.
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And here I thought I was the only who did this, mines are Megaman 2 and 3, these get me nostalgic every time.
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I refuse to mention Megaman X and Super Metroid on the premise of 'being original'.
...I play everything. =/
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The games that give me urge to revisit them are Ogre Battle:The March of the Black Queen, Bahamut Lagoon and Seiken Densetsu 3. Sometimes i end up replaying summon night: swordcraft story 1 and 2 just for the lolz.
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Bahamut Lagoon lost a lot of it's appeal for me when I realized that you could just set your dragons to attack and win every mission.
Even with all the emphasis they put on using and raising the dragons they were still too powerful.
Still, it was a good game.
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Tetris Attack is the only game I've ever gone back to after I was done with it.
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I always replay puzzle games like Panel de Pon, Magical Drop III, etc.
So, some of the non-puzzle games I go back to: Katamari of any variety, Seiken Densetsu II and III, SaGa Frontier, Chrono Trigger, FFT, Ogre Battle, Golden Axe series, Altered Beast, hm.. can't think of anything else right now.
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I refuse to mention Megaman X and Super Metroid on the premise of 'being original'.
Well, and what about metroid fusion and castlevania circle of the moon, down of sorrow and order of eclesia? =p
Bahamut Lagoon lost a lot of it's appeal for me when I realized that you could just set your dragons to attack and win every mission.Even with all the emphasis they put on using and raising the dragons they were still too powerful.Still, it was a good game.
in the penultimate side quest don't metter what kind o dragon you have: they will die very quicklly if you just use they. But for the normal cenarios, what you said is the pure thruth. Anyway, the game that have the most urge to revisit continue to be the snes Ogre Battle:The March of the Black Queen without a doubt (the others ogre i just played one time and become bored).
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Donkey Kong
(http://www.classicarcadegames.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/donkey-kong-arcade.jpg)
I can not get enough of this thing, it devours my quarters.
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Hmm...an annual Ogre Battle 64 gaming thing you do? Interesting. I do the same thing with Lunar: Silver Star Story and Lunar 2: Eternal Blue...I love Lunar 1 & 2.
Anyways, other games that frequently make me want to go back and play them (or succeed in doing so) are as follows:
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean
Disgaea 1 & 2
Ogre Battle 64
Chrono Trigger
Almost anything RPG Maker related
Pokemon
Mostly your epic RPGs where they weren't looking to do something 'new' but rather focused on a storyline made of absolute win. That's what I miss most about RPGs, the new ones coming out are going for new stuff...like real time combat, intricate level up (or no level up at all) systems, graphics...and in the end, they forget about the part that especially matters, a storyline that is gripping and compelling from beginning to end, characters that you actually like, plot twists that can't be seen miles away.
Final Fantasy XII sucked when it came to mid-end game storyline. Dragon Age and Mass Effect, nothing was really exciting, it was so bland I can't play them anymore. Cross Edge was good but character development and overall story ended up flopping at the end of the game. Hell, from all I've read Final Fantasy XIII sucks overall for story/characters. I miss having a game where the story is the big draw to the game...gaming overall has become too 'softcore' and developers are trying to appeal to the more general audience more so than the old school players who played things when they were good.
Hell, I enjoyed playing Pokemon back in the day because of the 'lack' of a story. Your character was just going out there on an adventure...he/she wasn't trying to save the world or stop evil...it's just something that popped up while you were on your adventure. You weren't looking for this stuff, it was just part of the life you were living.
You know what I mean?
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About half of the games I have, but mostly rockman, castlevania, games of the Seiken Densetsu series, Zelda titles and the SNES FF titles. Oh, add Chrono Trigger to the list.
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Oh yeah, and I usually end up replaying H games to get all the endings. :toot:
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Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Tales of Eternia (PSX)
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (PSX)
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (PSP)
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Resident Evil 4, original GCN version. Pretty recent compared to most of the games you've all listed, but i always find myself booting it up at least once a year for a knife-run or no-merchant-or-heals run. Seriously the best and most addictive single-player action game ive ever played. I don't really play old RPG's anymore, other then an occasional dabble in fire-emblem 7 if im on a roadtrip or some shit where all i have is my handheld.
Only reason this topic didn't get me playing RE4 again is the fact that im busy training for evo. >_>
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Ogre Battle 64 is the ONLY game that I've replayed this many times with the exception of Chrono Trigger (but that was back when the only RPGs I'd ever played were FF4/6 and CT).
The only other rpgs I've gone back after full completion and played through again were (listed in order of favoritism)
1. Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
2. Growlanser 2
3. FF Tactics
4. Grandia 2
5. Chrono Trigger
Out of any other single player games, I haven't found anything else worth playing beyond getting the full completion. Those first two listed along with OB64 and Disgaea 1 and 2 are my favorite RPGs. I can't list Disgaea 1 or 2 in the repeated plays because every time I go back to play them more, I'm just grinding out more stuff to work my way to an ultimate file (never gonna happen).
Magnus - Can't say I'm a big fan of the Mana series. That sort of gameplay never really was my thing, I guess. I'm not a fan of most action/rpg hybrids.
Mightwish - Original megaman games are too hardcore! I can't handle them. Too much hard platforming, and that just ends up either frustrating me or boring me. I'm a much bigger fan of the MM Zero or ZX series, which have a stronger emphasis on action over just platforming. I have mad respect for those who can play through those older grueling platformers though.
Caiooa - I like Ogre Battle 64 over March of the Black Queen because of the massive improvements to the engine. Selecting units, precise movement, being able to tell exactly when you're going to initiate battle with an opponent, they're all made so much easier to deal with in the 64 version. It really makes the game have much less little annoyances and allow you to enjoy all the good points more. That's how I felt about it anyway.
Ultima and Hasuko - I don't really count puzzle games for the same reason I don't count fighters, shmups, or party games. They're meant to be replayed endlessly, so it's only natural to go back to them again and again. Also Hasuko, somehow I end up referencing into Altered Beast on a near-daily basis. I have way too many fond memories of that game. It's a shame my copy got stolen back in the day.
Crosseyes - OG Donkey Kong! Was the game boy version of that the same as the original NES version? Cuz that's the only one I've ever beaten (which is a feat for me, since platformers aren't my thing). That shit had some crazy puzzles in it though.
Shin - You know, I have both lunar games, but I haven't played much into either. I wanted to finish the first before starting the second, but the first one makes me ragequit early on every time. lol. It's pretty sad. I hear Lunar 2 is leagues better and that I should just skip to it, but I can't help but want to play them in order. And holy fuck, that's too many games to go back and replay for me. Generally speaking, I'd much rather move on to something new than go back and play through a game I already know everything about. It takes a lot for me to want to play through a game purely for its story, because I remember everything about it too well as I replay through. It's like...watching a movie and having someone spoil everything a couple minutes before it happens, you know? Also random note, I always wanted to play Skies of Arcadia. I heard it was great.
Vhaeraun - Man, those Tales games always leave me feeling disappointed. I look at the battle system and envision how they could make small improvements to add so much more depth, and then I get sad and stop playing. Eternia was good, and from what it looks like Destiny 2 seems even better, but it still just feels too lacking in the battles. This is why I can't play action/rpgs. They always feel like they just half-assed the action and the rpg and shoved them together to try and make a whole. I can't be satisfied with something like that!
GLZ - RE4? That's a pretty strong testiment to the quality of the game. I'd heard it was very good, but I'm honestly surprised. I'll have to make a real effort to get it and play it through.
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You guys (Shin and Loli) have excellent tastes in RPGs and games in general, though I'd hate to admit that I've never actually beaten Grandia II.
I was surprised to see Skies of Arcadia and the Lunar games mentioned. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but I never felt the urge to beat them multiple times.
I've been meaning to replay Growlanser 2&3 for the alternate endings, but I'm usually lazy with that sort of thing.
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For me, FF Tactics and SRW games. Awhile ago I would replay Fire Emblem games a lot. But they've kinda died down on me
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LS - I still have my original Megadrive copies of Golden Axe and Altered Beast, complete with manuals. :toot:
I also have Shining Force 1 and 2, both US and JP. I replayed those a lot, just to try different party combos. :V
Fire Emblems too, for the same reason.
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Which reminds me, Dragon Force. One of the best games for the Saturn ever.
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Revisit? Hoo boy.
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Come to think of it, just about any of the "Metroidvanias" I've played and beaten more than once.
- Gunstar Heroes. Still good. So is the GBA remake, although I never really had any trouble except in Black's stage, which was even more sadistic than the original. It had a good joke about how there was a "Save Destroyer" that'd delete your save if it caught you, though. ;D Sadly, this got axed in the US release.
- Does playing Doom still count? Yeah, I still play that... I'm old, what can I say? :(
- Unreal Tournament. Why? It's Unreal Fucking Tournament, that's why. I'd love to take on any fellow UTers.
- Puyo Puyo. Either Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary, or (lately) Puyo Puyo 7. I play a mean Feli.
- Tecmo Super Bowl. Back when my hometown team (The Buffalo Bills) didn't completely suck. At least in TSB, they'll always be gods, even if our quarterback is "QB Bills" instead of Jim Kelly.
I'm sure there's a lot more than what I'm remembering off the top of my head.
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Let's see...
MMZ3, still attempting to get a 100% playthrough. Got about halfway.
Golden Sun if just to see those awesome graphics again.
Not really much else unless it has multiple endings.
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I have to say that I loved the Lunar games so much. The story was really good and kept me going. I do admit that Lunar 2 is better overall than Lunar 1, but they are both really important games to me. The Lunar games have nothing outstanding to them besides the story so most people don't consider it a replay type game.
Skies of Arcadia is one of my all time favorites. An excellent, excellent RPG if you can get your hands on it. Again, nothing too spectacular in it besides the story. By the time you get your battleship cruiser thing, ship to ship battles is cake.
Symphony of the Night...I keep going back to that game for the challenges I set. IE punches only, no magic, no equips (can do without the spike breaker), etc etc. For some wtf reason however, I downloaded it for the 360 and I can't get a full 200.6% of map clear. I have gone through every hidden room, collected every item and everything...it's for an achievement that I'm going for the full map percent.
Grandia II is a very good game as well. If you get a chance, play it. Oh, and Millenia FTW :fap:
Finally, one game I failed to mention before that I go back to all the time for the lols of the story and the overall gameplay is Thousand Arms. To those who have never played/heard of Thousand Arms, you play the role of a blacksmith who forges weapons with the help of a female partner. Now to imbue your weapon with different effects, you have to forge your weapon(s) with the aid of a multitude of female characters/teammates you get throughout the game. To get different effects, these characters must be at various affection levels and to raise (or lower) these values, you have to take the girls out on dates. The dating part of the game is lol and is much like a dating sim with choice selection and such finally ending with an up-to-chance roulette wheel that determines your 'pose' that you do with your dating partner for a photo booth picture (that gives a multiplier to the overall date scene you just did). If you ever get the chance to play this game DO SO. It is a DAMN good RPG with a lengthy story (full of lols) and multitude of endings (mostly depending on what girl you are most affectionate with). I am never selling my copy of this game...EVER.
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by what you say it resemble summon night :psyduck:? I will give a check if it's possible to find a used copy of this game. :prinny:
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Donkey Kong is an Arcade game, I have not known it to be on any other platform... Which is really a smart business move on Nintendo's part; one installment of $40 or 10,000,000,000 installments of $0.25 and I think... 125... 625... multiply the 2, carry the one... yes, it's a lot more.
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You guys (Shin and Loli) have excellent tastes in RPGs and games in general, though I'd hate to admit that I've never actually beaten Grandia II.
I was surprised to see Skies of Arcadia and the Lunar games mentioned. I thoroughly enjoyed them, but I never felt the urge to beat them multiple times.
I've been meaning to replay Growlanser 2&3 for the alternate endings, but I'm usually lazy with that sort of thing.
Thanks. I try to get around and experience any games that are well renoun.
Growlanser is my shitttt! I wear the ring weapon that you get from the limited edition on my necklace. =D Getting the character specific endings in Growlanser 2 isn't really a big change though. It's honestly not really worth it unless you plan on importing the characters into 3 (which is pretty lol if you do). But really, 3 is way to easy since they give you access to the arena so early. I mass leveled super early and got to a point where I could just spam that fucking...I don't remember the name of it. Inferno or something? I dunno, but it was massive AOE and huge damage at the cost of all of your MP, but with max level MP drain (which was learnable through scrolls lol), you refilled it all back up for free anyway. It was just dumb. And somehow it could do more than the max damage, even though it didn't display it. I could one shot the final boss, yet he had more hp than you could deal in a single attack. That always baffled me. Anyway, the only really awesome variant endings that are must see are siding with Wolfgang and to a lesser degree siding with Max. Wolfgang path is surprisingly long and well made.
For me, FF Tactics and SRW games. Awhile ago I would replay Fire Emblem games a lot. But they've kinda died down on me
SRW! Man, I have to be honest with you guys. I liked Battle Moon Wars more than any SRW game. I guess I just love Type Moon way more than anything mecha.
LS - I still have my original Megadrive copies of Golden Axe and Altered Beast, complete with manuals. :toot:
FFFFFFFFFFFFucking awesome! Those were my favorite brawlers from back in the day, no joke. If I ever end up staying at your place somehow, we're gonna be bootin some midgets for sure. beepbeep
Which reminds me, Dragon Force. One of the best games for the Saturn ever.
Hardest metal known to man? Seriously though, the only Saturn game I know of is the Panzer Dragoon rpg. What's Dragon Force?
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Come to think of it, just about any of the "Metroidvanias" I've played and beaten more than once.
- Gunstar Heroes. Still good. So is the GBA remake, although I never really had any trouble except in Black's stage, which was even more sadistic than the original. It had a good joke about how there was a "Save Destroyer" that'd delete your save if it caught you, though. ;D Sadly, this got axed in the US release.
- Tecmo Super Bowl. Back when my hometown team (The Buffalo Bills) didn't completely suck. At least in TSB, they'll always be gods, even if our quarterback is "QB Bills" instead of Jim Kelly.
Yo, am I a blasphemer for loving Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow the most of any Castlevania games? Also Gunstar Heroes was badass. Somehow I liked Metal Slug games more though (probably just cuz of the knifing. Shit's so fun go rambo and knife everything) Also lol techmo super bowl.
Let's see...
MMZ3, still attempting to get a 100% playthrough. Got about halfway.
Golden Sun if just to see those awesome graphics again.
Not really much else unless it has multiple endings.
Yo, do it. MMZ3's ending is GODLIKE. What a stellar story that series has (except MMZ4. just....don't play that one). Also, Golden Sun is another series I've always wanted to play, but I never did because handhelds give me hand cramps. =\
Grandia II is a very good game as well. If you get a chance, play it. Oh, and Millenia FTW :fap:
Finally, one game I failed to mention before that I go back to all the time for the lols of the story and the overall gameplay is Thousand Arms. :blah: :blah: :blah:
Millenia has one of the best personalities of any rpg character ever. What a memorable character. I've actually heard of and seen Thousand Arms before. The game seems kind of clunky in some ways, but I can see the appeal behind it. It was brought up to me by my best friend when all the hype was going on for Ar Tonelico. He was like "I don't get the hype. It's not like it's incredibly unique or something. Does nobody know of Thousand Arms?"
Donkey Kong is an Arcade game, I have not known it to be on any other platform... Which is really a smart business move on Nintendo's part; one installment of $40 or 10,000,000,000 installments of $0.25 and I think... 125... 625... multiply the 2, carry the one... yes, it's a lot more.
Oh, my bad. I thought it was NES for some reason. Shows what I know about DK. :V
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Let's see...
MMZ3, still attempting to get a 100% playthrough. Got about halfway.
Golden Sun if just to see those awesome graphics again.
Not really much else unless it has multiple endings.
Yo, do it. MMZ3's ending is GODLIKE. What a stellar story that series has (except MMZ4. just....don't play that one). Also, Golden Sun is another series I've always wanted to play, but I never did because handhelds give me hand cramps. =\
Oh, I've already finished it's story, I mean 100% rank.
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Yo, am I a blasphemer for loving Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow the most of any Castlevania games? Also Gunstar Heroes was badass. Somehow I liked Metal Slug games more though (probably just cuz of the knifing. Shit's so fun go rambo and knife everything) Also lol techmo super bowl.
Not at all. Those are damn good too and I've beaten them a couple times over as well. Order of Ecclesia I actually not only got Level 255 mode (Requiring you to either own a Wii and use Castlevania: Judgement or to beat the game on Hard Mode Level 1 where you can't Levelup AT ALL) but I actually got Shanoa up to Level 255. It took a good bunch of hours, I'll tell you that... even with some EXP-exploiting tricks. (Namely, stomping Jiang Shi over and over and over and over...)
Symphony's simply the one that got this all started though. I'm proud to have a legit copy of it, even if it's Greatest Hits. :)
I'd also love to see someone make level editors for these games... it'd be insane amounts of win.
A couple more off the top of my head, now that I'm remembering them:
- Pulseman. Chances are you never heard of this, but if you have, you and I are already friends. A little-known game by, at the time, a little known company, it came out for the Genesis/Megadrive in Japan in 1994. Here's a gameplay video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpAqvV6uQk&feature=related) If things look a bit... familiar, don't be surprised. The developer is a company you've surely heard of by now - Game Freak, and their claim to fame is, of course, Pokemon. Some Pulseman homages abound in Pokemon, with Rotom looking a bit like him and Pikachu's famous "Volt Tackle" being called "Voltteccer" in Japan, the name of Pulseman's special move. And yes, Junichi Masuda did the music for both games, and Ken Sugimori did character designs for both. This is available on Virtual Console if you want to get it, or if not, the ROM isn't too hard to find, but do your own search. You know, legal reasons and stuff.
- Disgaea, and its sequels. How I forgot that with the Prinny smiley you have here is beyond me.
- Garry's Mod... if that counts as a "game." Some would argue it doesn't.
- Grand Theft Auto. I've played it since the original.
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LS - I still have my original Megadrive copies of Golden Axe and Altered Beast, complete with manuals. :toot:
FFFFFFFFFFFFucking awesome! Those were my favorite brawlers from back in the day, no joke. If I ever end up staying at your place somehow, we're gonna be bootin some midgets for sure. beepbeep
You should arrange a trip when Motoh does, so we can get some Dokapon in, go to Little Tokyo and sing stupid karaoke, and basically be an all around whacky gathering. :3
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Does nobody know of Thousand Arms?
When I talk to people about my favorite RPGs for the PSX, I always mention Thousand Arms and nobody ever has recognized the title before.
Hell, this is totally a JRPG...when you start up the game, it goes into the song "Depend on You" by Ayumi Hamasaki (sung in Japanese even) which was kinda neat to me when all other RPGs I play that has a theme is done in English due to the market they are trying to sell to.
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Yo, am I a blasphemer for loving Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow the most of any Castlevania games?
No, that actually makes you awesome. Although you're a blasphemer for this
Also, Golden Sun is another series I've always wanted to play, but I never did
As for dragon force...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvY1ez8k1_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-PfzvQGwE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUplX_KTITk
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Sorry, I didn't mean it was never anywhere else; it was probably ported onto one of those late 80's/early 90's home consoles, but I've never personally seen it outside of an arcade
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I like to revisit old school RPGs after awhile. And I also like to go back to RE2 for some reason. I just get the need to play, play it, beat it, if I still have the need to beat it, I beat it three more times for good measure, then I will decide to beat it again and again if i want later on.
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Final Fantasy 6 and Sonic3&Knuckles
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Does nobody know of Thousand Arms?
When I talk to people about my favorite RPGs for the PSX, I always mention Thousand Arms and nobody ever has recognized the title before.
Hell, this is totally a JRPG...when you start up the game, it goes into the song "Depend on You" by Ayumi Hamasaki (sung in Japanese even) which was kinda neat to me when all other RPGs I play that has a theme is done in English due to the market they are trying to sell to.
Not only do I remember Thousand Arms, I played it. I never beat it, admittingly, as it wasn't mine, but I played through quite a bit of it.
It wasn't bad, but there's definitely better RPGs out there on PS1. See SaGa Frontier II, or Valkyrie Profile. Or if you count remakes, look at things like either Lunar remake.
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I could have saved myself a lot of time if I wrote "anything published by Working Designs".
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For me, it always seems to be jRPGs:
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time is still my favorite game of all time. I'm on my.... 14th? playthrough. Something like that.
Tales of Symphonia.... It's just a really good game. That and Presea is my favorite female character ever. No idea why.
Persona 3 is another one. I'm on my 3rd playthrough for P3, because it's just a really enjoyable game.
Persona 4 is the same as P3.
God Hand. Great game, addicting combat, yeah...
I played the crap out of DMC3. I beat it on every difficulty with both characters. >_<
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I could have saved myself a lot of time if I wrote "anything published by Working Designs".
Probably. It's too bad they're out of business, really, but one must thank them for bringing quite a few RPGs to more mainstream American tastes. They also, in a way, shepherded in the now fairly common practice of offering a version of the game "with extras."
Alas, the only games I have of Working Designs are Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete and Silhouette Mirage. (The latter isn't even an RPG, but it's damn fun.)
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You should arrange a trip when Motoh does, so we can get some Dokapon in, go to Little Tokyo and sing stupid karaoke, and basically be an all around whacky gathering. :3
I'm so down for this, you don't even know. Just need to get my car fixed up so that it'll survive the trip. lol We should try and get a fourth person in on it if we're gonna do some Dokapon though. That and if we get a game started, this gathering will prolly end up lasting all weekend. That game just sucks away time like no other.
Pulseman.
Pulseman...almost sounds familiar, but looking at the video, I definitely have never seen or played it before.
As for dragon force...
Oh wow, Dragon Force is a Working Designs game and I didn't recognize it. Shame on me. I worship and mourn Working Designs on a daily basis. I own both Lunar games, the limited ed. Growlanser, and the limited ed. Arc the Lad (though this was stolen from me, unfortunately). I think I mentioned before that I wear the Growlanser ring on my necklace at all times.
For me, it always seems to be jRPGs:
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time is still my favorite game of all time. I'm on my.... 14th? playthrough. Something like that.
Tales of Symphonia.... It's just a really good game. That and Presea is my favorite female character ever. No idea why.
Persona 3 is another one. I'm on my 3rd playthrough for P3, because it's just a really enjoyable game.
Persona 4 is the same as P3.
God Hand. Great game, addicting combat, yeah...
I played the crap out of DMC3. I beat it on every difficulty with both characters. >_<
This will prolly make people rage, but I actually don't like the Star Ocean games. I tried 3 times to play through SO2, purely because of how much ridiculous amounts of praise it gets, but the game just isn't for me I guess. The battle system annoys me to no end.
Also FUCK YEAH GOD HAND! I'm a big fan of those real crazy action/adventures like God Hand, DMC1/3, and Ninja Gaiden 1/2. God of War series as well, but somehow I liked it less than the others I've mentioned. I can't really put my finger on why. I never played the Prince of Persia games, but they look pretty good too. Seriously though, nothing compares to God Hand. It's a paragon of action gaming.
Yo, am I a blasphemer for loving Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow the most of any Castlevania games?
No, that actually makes you awesome.
Not at all. Those are damn good too and I've beaten them a couple times over as well. Order of Ecclesia I actually not only got Level 255 mode (Requiring you to either own a Wii and use Castlevania: Judgement or to beat the game on Hard Mode Level 1 where you can't Levelup AT ALL) but I actually got Shanoa up to Level 255. It took a good bunch of hours, I'll tell you that... even with some EXP-exploiting tricks. (Namely, stomping Jiang Shi over and over and over and over...)
Symphony's simply the one that got this all started though. I'm proud to have a legit copy of it, even if it's Greatest Hits. :)
Oh, cool. Most people I talk to are like "SotN is the one true Castlevania! It's the best ever! I mean, come on...you beat the castle and then IT FLIPS FUCKING UPSIDE DOWN!" etc etc. I figured that was the general consensus of Castlevania fans or something. Also I was horribly disappointed in Ecclesia. They had so much shit they could do with rune combos and stuff. It just really didn't live up to my expectations at all. Also at one point I was stuck for like a week of intermittent playing trying to figure out why the fuck it wouldn't let me progress any further (needed the support of all the townspeople, and I was missing that one in the ice waterfall place). Also Dracula's giant undulating bat penis attack is bullshit and I couldn't figure out a way to not die if he does it. Basically the only strategy for living through Dracula's second form that my buddy and I could figure out was just to kill him before he could do his undulating bat penis thing and rape you. Were we missing something or was he really just designed that poorly?
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Pulseman...almost sounds familiar, but looking at the video, I definitely have never seen or played it before.
A shame. Go play it, really. Some will look at it and write it off as a Megaman ripoff, but it's a damn good game with great music considering it's going through a YM2612. Just be careful, it can be seizure-riffic in some stages.
Oh, cool. Most people I talk to are like "SotN is the one true Castlevania! It's the best ever! I mean, come on...you beat the castle and then IT FLIPS FUCKING UPSIDE DOWN!" etc etc. I figured that was the general consensus of Castlevania fans or something. Also I was horribly disappointed in Ecclesia. They had so much shit they could do with rune combos and stuff. It just really didn't live up to my expectations at all. Also at one point I was stuck for like a week of intermittent playing trying to figure out why the fuck it wouldn't let me progress any further (needed the support of all the townspeople, and I was missing that one in the ice waterfall place). Also Dracula's giant undulating bat penis attack is bullshit and I couldn't figure out a way to not die if he does it. Basically the only strategy for living through Dracula's second form that my buddy and I could figure out was just to kill him before he could do his undulating bat penis thing and rape you. Were we missing something or was he really just designed that poorly?
Those SOTN fanboys don't have the right to talk that shit, to be honest. I've been playing them since THE original, and CV3 is among my favorites in the series. They're all good, and SOTN was a groundbreaker, definitely, but it's the Castlevania series equivalent of Final Fantasy 7 - landmark, sure, and a great game, but people are a bit deluded into thinking it's somehow "the best ever" when it's really not.
Anyway, as for Drac's second form "Bat penis attack" I assume the one where he unleashes a load of bats everywhere? That one's easy. Stay fairly close to Drac and stick to the ground, and whip out Melio Scutum which will block the attack.
If that's not what you're talking about, clarify it please.
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I'm so down for this, you don't even know. Just need to get my car fixed up so that it'll survive the trip. lol We should try and get a fourth person in on it if we're gonna do some Dokapon though. That and if we get a game started, this gathering will prolly end up lasting all weekend. That game just sucks away time like no other.
Sweet. :D Motoh's classes end on 3/20, so we were looking at some point after that. I just need to know about 2 weeks in advance so I can request the week off work. I have the vacation time saved up already. :V
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Oh man I love SaGa Frontier 1 and 2. Happy to see other people who have played it.
The games I can think of off the top of my head that I still replay fairly often
Final Fantasy Tactics
Super Mario RPG (lol)
Legend of Legaia
Star Ocean 2
Lolisauce: You should try Front Mission 3/5 since you seem to like SRPGs.
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super mario rpg.....always love that system of timing to critical, timing to defend and timing to make yoshi run =3
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Also Dracula's giant undulating bat penis attack is bullshit and I couldn't figure out a way to not die if he does it. Basically the only strategy for living through Dracula's second form that my buddy and I could figure out was just to kill him before he could do his undulating bat penis thing and rape you. Were we missing something or was he really just designed that poorly?
I thought Eccelsia was the best of the DS castlevanias. Best protagonist (Soma comes close) and it was 100x more challenging than the others. Anyway, I dunno what attack you're referring to but they're all dodgeable, some less obvious than others. I know one of them you had to stand near him and crouch, maybe that's the one you're talking about? In any case, 2nd form Dracula was a bitch. One hit from most of his attacks meant death in my experience, haha.
Anyway I'll probably get ragged on for bad taste but w/e. Games I like to replay from time to time are:
-Mario RPG (My favorite game due to the amount of nostalgia I have associated with it.)
-Viewtiful Joe
-Megaman X1
-Secret of Evermore (I'm minority on this but I found this way more enjoyable than the other Mana games. Also the music is amazing)
-Earthworm Jim (New Junk City is probably my favorite vg song ever, lol)
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Oh, cool. Most people I talk to are like "SotN is the one true Castlevania! It's the best ever! I mean, come on...you beat the castle and then IT FLIPS FUCKING UPSIDE DOWN!" etc etc. I figured that was the general consensus of Castlevania fans or something. Also I was horribly disappointed in Ecclesia. They had so much shit they could do with rune combos and stuff. It just really didn't live up to my expectations at all. Also at one point I was stuck for like a week of intermittent playing trying to figure out why the fuck it wouldn't let me progress any further (needed the support of all the townspeople, and I was missing that one in the ice waterfall place). Also Dracula's giant undulating bat penis attack is bullshit and I couldn't figure out a way to not die if he does it. Basically the only strategy for living through Dracula's second form that my buddy and I could figure out was just to kill him before he could do his undulating bat penis thing and rape you. Were we missing something or was he really just designed that poorly?
Lol that attack isn't meant to be dodged: there's a sweet spot where you can dodge the bats every time he does the attack, but it's pretty hard to always be in the right position. Much easier to just crouch anywhere and use Melio Scutum(the shield glyph).
If you get the "normal" ending, the game does show you which townspeople you haven't saved yet. It was still pretty hard to figure out where the woman was in the ice waterfall though
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If you get the "normal" ending, the game does show you which townspeople you haven't saved yet. It was still pretty hard to figure out where the woman was in the ice waterfall though
"Normal?" Try "Bad." You find out why if you actually save everyone.
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<3 this thread. I am usually a Sega junkie so I play alot of my old Genesis games. Liiiiiiiiiike...
Shinobi 3 - Return of the Ninja Master
- This game is a classic, instant favorite for anyone who had a Genesis. This game holds a special place in my heart because it was the very first Genesis game I ever beat from start to finish. No codes, no help. All by myself. It is also the best damn game of all time in my w/e top 10 list. Great music, visuals, controls, locales, the whole 9. You go from riding the countryside on a noble steed (you probably used ninjutsu to steal) to surfing outside of evil power plants to running your ass off in a burning forest to HIJACKING THE BATTLESHIP OMG IT HURTS! Great game. If you haven't played it yet, your kids need to be confiscated by ninjas.
So, why do YOU need to play this game: Because its serious business. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuG6zNDEeA#t=5m26s)
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I hate you Loli. This thread makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Today I re-defeated Romancing SaGa 3 and Super Metroid (not saying much, the game is short as hell).
I'm also hitting up Ebay for the various Working Designs games I haven't played.
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Sweet. :D Motoh's classes end on 3/20, so we were looking at some point after that. I just need to know about 2 weeks in advance so I can request the week off work. I have the vacation time saved up already. :V
Aight, sounds good. I don't have any vacation time right now, but my weekends are always free, so it's good. Btw, as long as you have a ps2, I can get you hooked up with a melty setup. I know you like to hate, but if I could get you the game, would you play?
Lolisauce: You should try Front Mission 3/5 since you seem to like SRPGs.
Yo, funny you should mention that. Back in the day I used to play the FM3 demo ALL THE TIME. I wanted that game so bad. By the time I had the money to get it though, I had forgotten about it and jumped onto some other game. I should look em up for sure, cuz 3 had some pretty dope mechanics. Good shit bringing that up.
Also Dracula's giant undulating bat penis attack is bullshit and I couldn't figure out a way to not die if he does it. Basically the only strategy for living through Dracula's second form that my buddy and I could figure out was just to kill him before he could do his undulating bat penis thing and rape you. Were we missing something or was he really just designed that poorly?
I thought Eccelsia was the best of the DS castlevanias. Best protagonist (Soma comes close) and it was 100x more challenging than the others. Anyway, I dunno what attack you're referring to but they're all dodgeable, some less obvious than others. I know one of them you had to stand near him and crouch, maybe that's the one you're talking about? In any case, 2nd form Dracula was a bitch. One hit from most of his attacks meant death in my experience, haha.
Anyway I'll probably get ragged on for bad taste but w/e. Games I like to replay from time to time are:
-Mario RPG (My favorite game due to the amount of nostalgia I have associated with it.)
-Viewtiful Joe
-Megaman X1
-Secret of Evermore (I'm minority on this but I found this way more enjoyable than the other Mana games. Also the music is amazing)
-Earthworm Jim (New Junk City is probably my favorite vg song ever, lol)
Wow, Earthworm Jim and Viewtiful Joe? Nice! Good ass games. Also, Megaman X was the first MM game I actually owned. I used to run that game in an hour flat with how much I played it back then, haha. That's prolly no speed run, but for a person like me who wasn't good with platformers, it was certainly a memorable feat.
Also that sweet spot you guys are talking about for the giant stream of bats was the first thing I tried to do, but I guess I kept getting too close or too far. I dunno how I forgot about the shield glyph. Makes me lol thinking that's all I had to do.
<3 this thread. I am usually a Sega junkie so I play alot of my old Genesis games. Liiiiiiiiiike...
Shinobi 3 - Return of the Ninja Master
:blah: :blah: :blah:
So, why do YOU need to play this game: Because its serious business. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuG6zNDEeA#t=5m26s)
Lol shin. I shoulda known you'd pop up with Shinobi 3. You pimpin it too hard though man. lol
I hate you Loli. This thread makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Today I re-defeated Romancing SaGa 3 and Super Metroid (not saying much, the game is short as hell).
I'm also hitting up Ebay for the various Working Designs games I haven't played.
What can I say? That's what I do. I bring out the latent hype. If life was an RPG, I'd be that well rounded character that has a passive team buff aura. Everything around me gets hype+2. lol
Also, I somehow forgot that there's one other RPG that I've played through a number of times - Breath of Fire 3. I'm a little disappointed that not a single BoF title has popped up in here yet. 3's customization through masters and dragon gene combination system were godlike. It actually gave it a bit of replay value.
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If life was an RPG, I'd the annoying glass cannon character that talks too much. lol
I never mentioned BoF3 because I haven't played it since I was about twelve. I've been meaning to play the PSP version I have, but I never got around to it because of Melty. BoF4 was also really good.
1 and 2 were pretty standard as far as RPGs go, Dragon Quarter was pretty weird. I liked to a degree, but I don't really consider it a Breath of Fire title.
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Aight, sounds good. I don't have any vacation time right now, but my weekends are always free, so it's good. Btw, as long as you have a ps2, I can get you hooked up with a melty setup. I know you like to hate, but if I could get you the game, would you play?
I don't like to hate. :p And I'd appreciate the hookup, especially now that I've got a stick. I only have AC to practise on.
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Aight, sounds good. I don't have any vacation time right now, but my weekends are always free, so it's good. Btw, as long as you have a ps2, I can get you hooked up with a melty setup. I know you like to hate, but if I could get you the game, would you play?
I don't like to hate. :p And I'd appreciate the hookup, especially now that I've got a stick. I only have AC to practise on.
Good shit. If memory serves correct, you'll need a memcard with around 2.3k space free.
And yeah Magnus, I never played dragon quarter. I knew a lot about it, but it just didn't really sound like something I'd be interested in.
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Motoh already loaded something on my card, Free McBoot I think.
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All she needs is the actual game and ESR.
~M
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Sin and Punishment (Tsumi to Batsu)
- I only heard about this game from a song I heard online (Agave) and a few requests of a foreign game to play on N64. I must say, this game is pretty damn awesome. I am a fan of railgun/scroll shooters and this one is one of the best for its time. Great music and gameplay. And fandubbing is kinda alright too...
...oh wait, JP did that? NO EFFIN' WAAAAAAY!! Yes, the entire game is english dubbed on release in Japan with JP subtitles. Insane, I know.
So, why do YOU need to play this game: So uh...protect the Earth from Earth? Gdlk. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIU8Rx27isI&feature=related")
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All she needs is the actual game and ESR.
~M
Oh, okay. Sounds good.
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Hi LoliSauce
The one game that I come back and play every so often is Dragonball Z Legends. Not much I can really say aside from the fact that the game is AWESOME.
So, why do YOU need to play this game: It's better than Tenka'ichi Bootycakes and whatever other installments Atari made. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn5IVqwnnYk)
...sorry for stealing your line Shinobi.
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Not only have I played that game, it was the first game I ever imported back in like 2001.
I even wrote a FAQ for it that's now sadly long lost. But yeah, the game was damn awesome.
I remember Stage 6 being a bitch if you wanted a 100 Z-Score...
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Man, these games are all pretty badass. Castlevania 3 I never really got into, even though I revisit the very original every couple of years. I love the Metroidvanias, and have played pretty much every Castlevania ever - just not to completion. It's my greatest failing, one Lolisauce picks at whenever I tell him I'm playing the games below.
Crystalis. The game was just made really well, and really forces the player to approach the game like a puzzle. Just don't play the raped/beaten/abused/molested/deflowered/left-dead-in-a-ditch Game Boy Color version. The only real complaint anyone can have is that some monsters can't even be hurt unless you hit the required experience level, to which I say - wtf slow down, this game is meant to be enjoyed, not swallowed. Seriously, I hit the level cap two dungeons before the end and I skipped an entire required dungeon by accident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1xmB79Sn4M (This guy gets handled a lot for someone doing a walkthrough)
Kid Icarus. It's shameful that I keep playing this game over and over, but I love it so much. It's got action, it's got platforming, it's got dungeons to get lost in, and it has the two most annoying enemies in history - that screaming witch and the Eggplant Wizard.
Megaman 2. Pure rose-colored glasses. This game isn't really that amazing, I just know it by heart since it's the first MM I ever played and it's design is only (r)aped in every version after it, instead of improved upon like the Metroidvanias.
Vectorman gets an honorable mention, even though I don't replay it yearly. Megaman + the ability to shoot up? :fap:
I've been wanting to revisit Viewtiful Joe, also, but it's hard when I want to play Godhand even more. If you told me two years ago that another action game would dethrone VJ for me, I would have slapped you.
Edit: ALMOST FORGOT.
METAL SLUG! 2!
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Edit: ALMOST FORGOT.
METAL SLUG! 2!
Yo, thinking about it, it's been a while since we rampaged through Metal Slug 2 again. The rambo train was in 2 right? I know I ask every time, but somehow I always get things mixed up between 2 and 3. =\
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Yeah, the train is in 2. That stage is so fun, bikers below and jets above. MS3 is awesome, too, but I've always loved 2 more because even though it's hard, it's not impossible to one coin. All of the other ones has at least one boss that has a pattern that seems impossible to avoid.
MS3 is definitely a close second, though. It just takes everything awesome about 2 and blows it the hell up. Plus that last boss is so amazing.
Damn, I'm bringing my Wii next time we hang out. I wanna play those now.
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http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/bluemoonsasha/sale/panel.jpg
MELTY SLUG 4 LET'S DO IT
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MS3 is definitely a close second, though. It just takes everything awesome about 2 and blows it the hell up. Plus that last boss is so amazing.
Did someone just say to knife some brains? Cuz I think someone just said to knife some brains.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/bluemoonsasha/sale/panel.jpg
MELTY SLUG 4 LET'S DO IT
Is 4 the one with that fucking monkey transformation that's random as hell?
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I think you turn into babies on the last level or something. :psyduck:
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MS4 is the one where you turn into monkeys, and Tarma and Eri were replaced by some other guys that aren't even relevant in the MS series anymore. This should help you remember it better, though, Lolisauce -
MS4 is the one with the escape ending that I always fail.
Maybe I should play that one more so I can not be so lame when that pops up, but I didn't find 4 as fun as the other ones. It did have that motorcycle scene though, which was pretty cool. The combo system was neat, but it was executed kinda poorly. MSXX has a similar one that works worlds better, and that's after ignoring the combos for idk how many years.
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Maybe I should play that one more so I can not be so lame when that pops up, but I didn't find 4 as fun as the other ones. It did have that motorcycle scene though, which was pretty cool. The combo system was neat, but it was executed kinda poorly. MSXX has a similar one that works worlds better, and that's after ignoring the combos for idk how many years.
MS4 was released around the time the original SNK went down, so that one got farmed out and the quality was horrible as a result. Also see King of Fighters 2001 for another, arguably worse casualty.
That art... and that music.... *stabs his own eyes and punctures his own eardrums*
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I like MS4 because of the fat model chick with pink hair who replaced Eri.
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Panzer Dragoon Saga. Still got my original launch copy.
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Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Golden Sun 1 & 2
Terrafirma (Some game for the SNES.)
Quest 64
The Legend of Zelda: OoC
I could give you some more games but not sure what genres your into.
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hmm...one other game I would like to add to this that I keep coming back to time after time is the "drink-till-someone-passes-out-and-they-pay-the-bill" game.
My friends here don't like to play this game with me, I win all the time. :teach:
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MS4 is the one with the escape ending that I always fail.
You fucker! Yeah, I remember that. Goddamn, why can't you just jump instead of trying to blow those blocks up. You grew up on platformers, jumping should be natural for you! I still haven't seen good ending on that one because of that shit.
Quest 64
Really? I thought that game was pretty weak. It was just too easy to break the game. I learned the cure spells in water, the attack buffs in fire, and maxed out earth to get that fucking...shield thing? It was too easy. Just re-shield and buff every time they wear off and keep staff smacking people for free while you ignore all damage. It's like...uh...what? Why does a spell like that earth shield exist? No damage for 3 turns is just dumb.
hmm...one other game I would like to add to this that I keep coming back to time after time is the "drink-till-someone-passes-out-and-they-pay-the-bill" game.
My friends here don't like to play this game with me, I win all the time. :teach:
Call it what you want to call it. Shin's a fuckin alcoholic. :V
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LSauce: You wanna talk balance issues? Puzzle Quest for DS. Sup entangle/gust of wind loop. :toot: I think Wizards had a similar loop but i never played one so :V
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LSauce: You wanna talk balance issues? Puzzle Quest for DS. Sup entangle/gust of wind loop. :toot: I think Wizards had a similar loop but i never played one so :V
Never played it. What's the two spells do?
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Quest 64
Really? I thought that game was pretty weak. It was just too easy to break the game. I learned the cure spells in water, the attack buffs in fire, and maxed out earth to get that fucking...shield thing? It was too easy. Just re-shield and buff every time they wear off and keep staff smacking people for free while you ignore all damage. It's like...uh...what? Why does a spell like that earth shield exist? No damage for 3 turns is just dumb.
Heh, I remember this game. That should thing was pretty dumb, but I preferred to play the ranged game and just case Earthquake...or whatever spell that was where all the rocks came down and wtfpwn'd your enemy because for some reason everything in this game was weak to Earth based attacks and this attack would guarantee at least 3-7 hits per cast.
hmm...one other game I would like to add to this that I keep coming back to time after time is the "drink-till-someone-passes-out-and-they-pay-the-bill" game.
My friends here don't like to play this game with me, I win all the time. :teach:
Call it what you want to call it. Shin's a fuckin alcoholic. :V
My mini fridge has two settings, full (of alcohol) or empty.
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LSauce: You wanna talk balance issues? Puzzle Quest for DS. Sup entangle/gust of wind loop. :toot: I think Wizards had a similar loop but i never played one so :V
Never played it. What's the two spells do?
Entangle made your opponent unable to move. Gust of Wind lets you turn a bunch of gems on the board into air, meaning your turn will never end since you're liable to constantly be making 4 or 5 a shot.
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Ha, I loved Ogre Battle 64 until I got to the part where you form legions. Then I hated it.
I always have the urge to go back and play some shitty squaresoft rpg, like FFIX or Xenogears and then ten minutes in I'm like, "wow, this is garbage. I'm glad I don't play RPG's any more." I always forget this after a year, a need my annual reminder.
Also love going back and playing Super Castlevania IV, that game is cool as hell. I'm pretty gay when I play it, I hum along to the music and shit. :prinny:
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I always have the urge to go back and play some shitty squaresoft rpg, like FFIX or Xenogears and then ten minutes in I'm like, "wow, this is garbage. I'm glad I don't play RPG's any more." I always forget this after a year, a need my annual reminder.
You think Xenogears is shitty?
I wonder what your favorite-ever RPG is. FF7, I'm guessing?
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Xenogears isn't shitty, just overrated to me. It's a good game, but I honestly don't see why everyone thinks it's god's gift to RPGs.
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Xenogears has a godlike story, but mech battles were fucking lame in comparison to on foot battles, and the platforming elements were broken. I can't tell you how many times I fell to the bottom of the tower of babylon because of that shit where you can't jump for about a second before a battle triggers.
Ha, I loved Ogre Battle 64 until I got to the part where you form legions. Then I hated it.
I just never used legions, since they were basically useless. Enemy legions never really gave too much of a problem if you were prepared to deal with them. A lot of the late game stuff was my favorite, since you get the best classes available and the most intense enemy setups. Those siege missions were kind of annoying though.
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Terrafirma (Some game for the SNES.)
The Legend of Zelda: OoC
I could give you some more games but not sure what genres your into.
1) Do you mean Terranigma? Enix's totally awesome action/adventure/way better than Zelda game? Because YES.
2) OoC? Maybe OoT?
3) Doesn't matter what genre we're into, you should say what game and if we haven't heard it, I'm sure someone will be like "wtf is THIS shit?" and then you can explain. Besides, I bet you could mention something random like Circus Charlie and at least half the people here would recognize it.
Quest 64
Quest 64? Broke as hell.
I concur.
Quest 64 had a battle system I had never seen before, so I loved that game. And since it was easy, my simple mind could play it and still win. But, yeah, it's pretty broke. Kinda want to play it again, though.
MS4 is the one with the escape ending that I always fail.
You fucker! Yeah, I remember that. Goddamn, why can't you just jump instead of trying to blow those blocks up. You grew up on platformers, jumping should be natural for you! I still haven't seen good ending on that one because of that shit.
I have... :V I'll be sure to put my Mega-skills to work next time, if we ever try that one again. (Also, blowing shit up is WAY manlier)
MS4 was released during SNK's Jesus Saga.
That explains a lot. Considering this, I'm happy MS4 turned out as well as it did.
I like MS4 because of the fat model chick with pink hair who replaced Eri.
~gasp~ BLASPHEMY.
j/k. I thought the characters they added were kinda neat, but I would have like them more if they hadn't, you know, REPLACED TARMA AND ERI WITH THEM. (Even though Tarma and Fio are my favorites)
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You think Xenogears is shitty?
I wonder what your favorite-ever RPG is. FF7, I'm guessing?
FF7 and Kingdom Hearts are my favorite games of all time, I like to play them while eating pocky and reading sephiroth/cloud fanfiction
Xenogears has a godlike story, but mech battles were fucking lame in comparison to on foot battles, and the platforming elements were broken. I can't tell you how many times I fell to the bottom of the tower of babylon because of that shit where you can't jump for about a second before a battle triggers.
Agreed, Xenogears would've been great if they just made it an anime.
I just never used legions, since they were basically useless. Enemy legions never really gave too much of a problem if you were prepared to deal with them. A lot of the late game stuff was my favorite, since you get the best classes available and the most intense enemy setups. Those siege missions were kind of annoying though.
Ha, I got stuck on the first mission with legions, but I never thought of not using legions. I just figured that since the game gave you this new technique, it had to be best. Maybe I'd better dust off my N64 and give it another go, because I was really into the game until then.
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FF7 and Kingdom Hearts are my favorite games of all time, I like to play them while eating pocky and reading sephiroth/cloud fanfiction
Xenogears has a godlike story, but mech battles were fucking lame in comparison to on foot battles, and the platforming elements were broken. I can't tell you how many times I fell to the bottom of the tower of babylon because of that shit where you can't jump for about a second before a battle triggers.
Agreed, Xenogears would've been great if they just made it an anime.
I figured as much. Xenogears I wouldn't go so far as to call it shitty, though. I never really played it much (I really should correct this someday) but nearly everyone who's ever played it said it was pretty damn good, with a few of them pointing out flaws like LoliSauce did.
None of those are on my "Best RPG ever" list though.
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Honestly, I have trouble replaying most games. This holds particular to RPGs as I largely no longer care about story. I bought FFT on PSN a few months ago and never got past the fourth battle, just because I had memorized it when I was 10 and pretty much never forgot it. There is the occasional game I replay, though:
Earthbound: Easily my favorite non-MMO RPG of all time, in terms of story, characters, and art style/music. FFT edged it out in pure gameplay, but I still vastly prefer this one. Always loved its contemporary (though now dated) Americanish setting instead of high fantasy or sci-fi, loved the humor, the general quirkiness, and the light-hearted mood. You know, that light-hearted mood that gets mutilated, crushed, and incinerated in the last 5% of the game to give your 8-year-old self some of the most profound nightmares of his childhood. I've replayed it a few times. Giygas still creeps me out.
Oddworld (the first two): Another of my childhood favorites, for much of the same reasons. Humor, characters, and nightmare fuel. Played through the first one on Steam about 6 months ago, got 96 of the Mudokons without a guide. Fuck the Xbox games.
No More Heroes: I don't know why I replayed this of all games. It has some serious flaws. And yet, it's mindless fun, and I like Travis simply for his sociopath...iness. It helps when you swing your arms around far more than you need to. Need to get my Wii back sometime to play the sequel.
Most of the other games I like, despite the facts that I greatly enjoyed them and they still hold a place in my heart, I just can't bring myself to enjoy as much as I used to. These include Gran Turismo/2/4 (skipped 3), FF7/8/9/X, Unreal Tournament/2k4 (3 was okay but got old fast), Half-Life Deathmatch and its various mods (except CS), Morrowind, DMC3, the list goes on.
But none of these compare to my undisputed #1 game of all time, City of Heroes. It has since been shredded into very tiny chunks of its previous self, but back before the Issue 13 PvP fiasco, I played this game no less than 5 hours a day, every day. I logged over 1500 hours into that game...on just my main character. I had 7 other max level characters with 100-600 hours each. In fact, if Issue 13 never happened, I wouldn't even be here or on SRK -- I'd still be PvPing in that game instead of playing fighters.
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So that's where the hell you disappeared to.
I figured you would've been like one of the many who fled 2k4 for WoW. WoW was the cancer that killed 2k4; L4D is the one that killed UT3.
Me? The only MMO I can stand playing is Ragnarok Online. Which I do from time to time if I get some friends to join up with me.
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I get pretty obsessive when I'm playing a game, so playing a game with a definitive ending is important for me. For this reason, I don't allow myself to play MMOs at all, though I do watch while my brother plays various ones from time to time to keep up on the genre.
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WoW is garbage.
CoH is (was) the only MMO I can bring myself to play for any period of time. Though I can say pretty definitively that I won't be playing it anymore unless they revert the PvP changes, considering there's a free weekend with double XP/money going on right now and I'm not playing it at all.
It is not a good idea to get into MMOs. They, at least while you're subscribed and enjoying the game, make other games seem to have a sense of pointlessness. But, whenever the devs fuck something up royally, there is pretty much no recourse unless the game has private servers. This seems to have happened with a lot of MMOs. CoX for sure, but also (this is from hearsay) SWG, DAoC, and even some WoW players say this regarding the most recent and the upcoming expansions. Once this happens, or if you decide to quit for any other reason, you come off of a streak of several years playing the same game and have to wean yourself off of it. You also realize how much your skills deteriorate in other games. (I can't even do well in Team Faggotry 2 these days, much less UT)
One good thing about MMOs, though? They're actually cheap. $15/month is cheaper than buying a $50/$60 game that only lasts you three weeks, or even a $20 bargain bin game which lasts you that long. Of course, this argument is invalid if you pirate everything. Of course, now MMO devs consider it standard fare to throw microtransactions everywhere, so this argument may be going out the window.
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Tell me about it. I got a friend who claims she's not addicted to WoW, and yet she's put in over 80 hours of play this week, and nearly 300 hours total.
Two weeks ago, her top game had 30 hours of play.
I can't even get her to fucking say "Hello" to me lately.
The worst part of this is she's supposed to be artist for my stories. This leaves me without an artist whom I can bounce ideas for characters off of. It also leaves my stories essentially stuck; while I can write them, they're simply not going to be as good without some art to go with them.
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I loved CoH. :psyduck: I miss my Moonlight Butterfly (http://usera.ImageCave.com/Hasuko/Moonlight3.jpg, http://usera.ImageCave.com/Hasuko/Moonlight.jpg), but I just don't have the time to play anymore.
Though, I played a lot after they put wings in, because the fairy wings actually looked like butterfly wings and I could finally actually be Moonlight Butterfly. XD;
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I hate grinding, yet I've played more MMOs than I'd like to admit to. I get tired of them quickly enough, though. Lineage II was the one I played the most, which is ironic seeing as it's the biggest grindfest of all. WoW was pretty alright with some friends. I got invited with some triple experience promo though, so that probably contributed quite a bit to my two week enjoyment.
Don't worry about being terrible at TF2 now Vice. They made it shitty awhile ago.
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I hate grinding, yet I've played more MMOs than I'd like to admit to.
I think it's safe to say that sometimes, even grinding can be fun. For me, it depends on things like whether there's significant proof that it works, or if the grinding itself is done in an enjoyable way. For example, grinding for experience can be fun if you enjoy the battle system. Or grinding out combos are fun if the increase in execution proves to increase success in competitive play.
EARTHBOUND
OMG EARTHBOUND :fap:
Also NMH is awesome as hell, even though yeah, a few things are kinda buggy. Suda51 is a goddamn genius.
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Come to think of it, I really want to replay Killer7. Too bad I have no idea where my copy went.
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EARTHBOUND
OMG EARTHBOUND :fap:
Also NMH is awesome as hell, even though yeah, a few things are kinda buggy. Suda51 is a goddamn genius.
You cannot grasp the true power of Gyigas' attack!
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EARTHBOUND
OMG EARTHBOUND :fap:
Also NMH is awesome as hell, even though yeah, a few things are kinda buggy. Suda51 is a goddamn genius.
You cannot grasp the true power of Gyigas' attack!
Giygas' music during his fight is probably among the most fucking creepy things I've ever heard.
Hell, the whole thing is just full of high-octane nightmare fuel. Considering how most of the rest of Earthbound was, it was certainly a shocker.
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Gigas was seriously the fucking scariest VG fight out of the entire god-damn decade. Fuck survival horror, try playing a seemingly harmless RPG to the end when your like 6-7 years old and then fighting a fucking twisted,morphing, aborted-fetus, skull.....thing, chanting your name and saying that its in pain, while your unable to grasp the true nature of its attack. Scarred for fucking LIFE.
The worst part? The thing is like "It". Bitch comes back later in your life to haunt you even more. HIYA GEORGIE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6P_BvrtuxAI
Popped up while i was looking at ranranru variations. *shudders*
If he was holding a balloon in that vid, i think i might have seriously cried. >:(
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YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF GIYGAS' ATTACK!
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The worst part is that, if you don't use the one single skill that you'd never use in the whole game, you couldn't have a chance in hell to beat him.
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It's the power of love.
If it can reduce Archetype's instant-kill Arc Drives to 5k with Tohno, it can work for Giygas, too!
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It's the power of love.
If it can reduce Archetype's instant-kill Arc Drives to 5k with Tohno, it can work for Giygas, too!
Giygas should be considered god-tier. Scary fetus = nightmares :'(
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Fun fact: When I learned that this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVnmeTRqhg) wasn't the final boss of Mother 3, I lost interest in finishing it.
Mother 3 is a sham of a game compared to Earthbound. It lost pretty much all of the quirky 90's-America atmosphere and (somewhat) occasional creepiness that made EB so charming and memorable and replaced it with tear-jerking, which didn't work because it was a lot harder to become attached to the characters.
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DO YOU WANT ME
TO OPERATE ON YOUR BODY? BOING!!
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nethack. still the best game after 26 years
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Damnit, now I wanna go do a no-save run of X-Com 1.
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nethack. still the best game after 26 years
What's a nethack?
Damnit, now I wanna go do a no-save run of X-Com 1.
What's an x-com 1?
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Quick review of X-Com 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoXFEQJnrA actually sums it up quite nicely, despite being horribly dorky.
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What's a nethack?
www.nethack.org
free open source roguelike, get rid of the tile interface and it fits on a 3.5" floppy. based on an older game called hack, one of the first games developed over the internet by people who hadnt met irl hence the title
its a d&d based hack and slash dungeon crawler, you pick a race class and alignment and try to get down to the bottom of the dungeon, retrieve a magical amulet and get back out. ive been playing for 10 years and only beat it for the first time last year, with the easiest class (valkyrie)
dungeons are randomly generated every time you play, and if you die you have to start all the way over from the beginning. theres incredible variety and depth of gameplay, coupled with ASCII "graphics". in short, the best game ever
diablo 1 and 2 were inspired by it but they dont really come close to matching the depth of play in nethack
theres other, similar games. ADOM, angband and its variants, doomRL, etc but nethack is still the most balanced, complete, and fun
oh and its still being actively developed
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If you own a Genesis (can be easily emulated but meh), the following games are great classics you should play too:
- Rings of Power: Goodness, one of the hardest, if not the hardest RPG in existence.
- Sorcerer's Kingdom: Another RPG, a huge grindfest.
- King Colossus: Hack-and-slash action RPG.
- Warsong: A tough and challenging tactics game.
- Langrisser II: Sequel to Warsong - has a wider range of classes and soldiers but also way easier.
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I actually know of the Langrisser series (and Warsong, by proxy), but none of the others ring any bells. I wasn't actually into rpgs back when I had a genesis. I was playing random brawlers and uh...I don't even know what else. I had a SNES at the same time as I did Genesis, and the first rpgs I played were generic square stuff that most of my generation started on. I ended up giving my old genesis away to a younger cousin at some point (probably after I got an N64?). lol, N64. If not for Ogre Battle 64, I would really regret having my parents purchase that system. I bet I could count out every worthwhile game on that entire system on my fingers. =\
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Metroid, Donkey Kong, OoT, Starfox, Perfect Dark, along with Ogre Battle. I guess you're right.
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There isn't any Metroid for the n64. And why are you forgetting Banjo-Kazooie, or Conker's Bad Fur day?
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I bet I could count out every worthwhile game on that entire system on my fingers. =\
and they all cost like 80 bucks too lol
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There isn't any Metroid for the n64. And why are you forgetting Banjo-Kazooie, or Conker's Bad Fur day?
That's because I don't own those games and I don't know how good/bad they are, leave me alone :psyduck:
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Oh yeah, since there's a lot of FFT fans here, anyone play FFT 1.3? That shit is pretty tough, nice change of pace though if you get bored of breaking FFT every time you replay it. I started it up awhile ago and they have some really nice balance changes.
nethack. still the best game after 26 years
I ate an acid slime and it gave me a stomach ate.
I died from eating a pony though.
Roguelikes are good fun.
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There isn't any Metroid for the n64. And why are you forgetting Banjo-Kazooie, or Conker's Bad Fur day?
That's because I don't own those games and I don't know how good/bad they are, leave me alone :psyduck:
Shame on you. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZYYu8bdKE)
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I never owned an N64, but I did know a friend who had one when it was brand new.
Needless to say, Super Mario 64 was absolutely the hottest thing around till FF7 seemingly destroyed it a year later.
Also, I will profess to renting Super Smash Bros. just so I could play it at said friend's house. Granted, at the time, the very idea of seeing Mario in a FIGHTING GAME was a novel concept.
Too bad the only other good fighting game on there that I really remember was Killer Instinct 2. Now there's a game that REALLY needs a sequel. And it had the whole "Hard rock for a game BGM" thing a good 5 years before Guilty Gear did it, but Guilty Gear did it so damn good it wasn't even funny.
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Man, some buddies and I used to play original smash all the time back in the day. We'd play poverty sudden death, where you set damage at max and only have instant kill items like bombs and pokeballs spawn. Shit was ridiculous. They'd often play that poverty sudden death as a drinking game as well, where you have a ridiculous stock life count and just drink when you die. lol. Those matches would get really bad really quick. Late game there'd be more suicides than kills. lol
Btw, you forgot about CLAYFIGHTER 63 1/3! I have somewhat fond memories of triple brown betty comboing the cpu into oblivion. I remember the only claytality I could ever consistently do was that "santa's gonna sit on your lap" one, since the input was easy to remember. lol
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Man, some buddies and I used to play original smash all the time back in the day. We'd play poverty sudden death, where you set damage at max and only have instant kill items like bombs and pokeballs spawn. Shit was ridiculous. They'd often play that poverty sudden death as a drinking game as well, where you have a ridiculous stock life count and just drink when you die. lol. Those matches would get really bad really quick. Late game there'd be more suicides than kills. lol
Btw, you forgot about CLAYFIGHTER 63 1/3! I have somewhat fond memories of triple brown betty comboing the cpu into oblivion. I remember the only claytality I could ever consistently do was that "santa's gonna sit on your lap" one, since the input was easy to remember. lol
Damn, that does sound like fun. I laughed as I read the concept. I'm sure whoever found wands and baseball bats were quite popular, too.
And yes, I did forget Clayfighter 63 1/3. Quite goofy. But the fact I forgot it does kinda prove it got lost in the mix.
There were, of course, some other, really bad fighting games on there, but those are best left dead and buried.
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Metroid, Donkey Kong, OoT, Starfox, Perfect Dark, along with Ogre Battle. I guess you're right.
you forget castlevania legacy of darkness
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Metroid, Donkey Kong, OoT, Starfox, Perfect Dark, along with Ogre Battle. I guess you're right.
you forget castlevania legacy of darkness
That one wasn't really that good.
As for smash, once I played with my friend in a 200%damage, 99 lives battle, with everyone as jigglypuffs. By the time we finished, we couldn't look at smash for a while.
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A lot of people rag on the 64 but I thought it was a pretty decent system. Better than the gamecube and wii, but not as good as the snes. Dunno if I liked ps1 or 64 more though, they both have their gems.
Some games I liked on the 64 were the Goemon games (I prefer Mystical Ninja 64 to OoT, and the music to MN64 is incredible. My weeabooism started at a young age...), BLAST CORPS!, Mario Party 2, Snowboard Kids, Mischief Makers, JET FORCE GEMINI, Majora's Mask, Mario kart 64, Perfect Dark, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.
I used to have so many good times with my friends in mario kart 64, mario party, perfect dark, and smash bros it wasn't even funny haha.
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A lot of people rag on the 64 but I thought it was a pretty decent system. Better than the gamecube and wii, but not as good as the snes. Dunno if I liked ps1 or 64 more though, they both have their gems.
Some games I liked on the 64 were the Goemon games (I prefer Mystical Ninja 64 to OoT, and the music to MN64 is incredible. My weeabooism started at a young age...), BLAST CORPS!, Mario Party 2, Snowboard Kids, Mischief Makers, JET FORCE GEMINI, Majora's Mask, Mario kart 64, Perfect Dark, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.
I used to have so many good times with my friends in mario kart 64, mario party, perfect dark, and smash bros it wasn't even funny haha.
It's kind of on par with gamecube in my eyes. Both had a handful of awesome games, and the rest just kind of fell into obscurity. Mystical Ninja, Mischeif Makers, Mario Kart, and Perfect Dark were definitely good games though. I have some funny stories from random Perfect Dark moments, but I'd never be able to go back and play a console FPS without dual analog control. Jet Force Gemini was pretty great, but I'm still somehow butthurt over never being able to beat the final boss. I'd run out of ammo trying to destroy that fucking thing on his back to ground him. =<
Everyone just used Mario Party games as drinking games where I grew up, but I was never a big fan of them in general. I guess I'm not a minigames kind of guy. That's probably why I love Dokapon Kingdom so much more.
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What about Microgames? The Warioware series is incredibly fun stuff. Only one or two of them are Gamecube/Wii though; they're mostly GBA and NDS.
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What about Microgames? The Warioware series is incredibly fun stuff. Only one or two of them are Gamecube/Wii though; they're mostly GBA and NDS.
Mmm, those are okay I guess, but I get bored of them pretty quick unless the people I'm playing with make it more fun.
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Never was a Nintendo owner myself always owned SEGA systems so I never got to play Orge Battle. But if you can play Shining Force 3, I myself will always refer to it as a true classic but even though its not similar to Orge Battle it is RPG/Strategy goodness which shouldn't be missed.
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Never was a Nintendo owner myself always owned SEGA systems so I never got to play Orge Battle. But if you can play Shining Force 3, I myself will always refer to it as a true classic but even though its not similar to Orge Battle it is RPG/Strategy goodness which shouldn't be missed.
A few comments on that:
1) Ogre Battle did get re-released on PS1. (I'm the proud owner of a copy.)
2) Regarding Shining Force III, I only have five words: "Now bear my ARCTIC BLAST!" Over and over. Over and over. Over and over. The game was fine, but that voice acting... good GOD.
That said, the Shining Force series was always one of my favorites, with Shining Force II being quite fondly memorable for me. I can still whistle a good deal of the game's songs totally from memory.
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True it was re-released on PS1 but I as well never owned a Sony system till 2007 and that was because I bought Act Cadenza.
Comon the voice acting isn't that bad its just unique and I love it ahaha. But unless you know Japanese or go look for the translation the game is basically incomplete in the US. It still is missing its final 2 parts which bring the game together quite nicely.
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Fuck shit god damn. I played Dokapon tonight.. 1v1 against the CPU is a bad idea. As soon as she got 2 towns I was fucked. I eventually just reset when she had 12 towns and I had 1. D:
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Comon the voice acting isn't that bad its just unique and I love it ahaha.
Dude.
Maybe you need a little reminder.
- Exhibit A: "You can't run away!" (http://www.audioatrocities.com/games/shiningforce3/clip1.mp3)
- Exhibit B: "Uwa, ha, ha, ha, ha..." (http://www.audioatrocities.com/games/shiningforce3/clip2.mp3)
- Exhibit C: "Now bear my ARCTIC BLAST!" (http://www.audioatrocities.com/games/shiningforce3/clip3.mp3)
For the love of all of Sacchin's Panties, how can you NOT say that is bad? Is your hearing that impaired?
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That is not bad that is funny, and what makes the english version that much more better. Plus yeah I think I've been to too many metal concerts that my hearing has been going off on me in recent years haha.
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It is funny, but if I want to laugh I watch a comedy movie, or a comedian, or play a game that's full of such humor on purpose. (I'm looking at you, Makai Senki Disgaea.)
I don't play something that's supposed to be serious and has such a cringeworthy dub it reminds me of what 4Kids does to every anime they get their hands on. :P
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Hahaha you do make a good point, but for me I use the US version of Shining Force 3 to lol at while the Japan version is my serious version cuz in all you really do need to play all 3 parts of the game to really get the impact of it and its story.
But yeah that dub is just hilarious haha, and so are 4Kids dubs but I don't watch those if I did i probably would be tone deaf.
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Fuck shit god damn. I played Dokapon tonight.. 1v1 against the CPU is a bad idea. As soon as she got 2 towns I was fucked. I eventually just reset when she had 12 towns and I had 1. D:
This is the reason that I didn't play this game for nearly a month after I got it. I tried playing it by myself with 3 cpu's on the easiest setting to get a feel for the game.
Instead the game got a feel for the inside of my ass. Died 4 times in 3 weeks, 2 of those deaths were the CPU killing me to stop me from getting a town, and by the end of the 4th week, they had control of the entire first continent. I almost had one, but the CPU got an AMAZINGLY lucky roll (it's that one town in the top-right corner that's hard to get to) and killed me before I could finish the boss.
Once I got to play it with someone else, though, that game stole my heart. And pretty much everyone else who's ever played it with me.
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Playing Dokapon vs CPU is lame. Half the fun is trying to get your once-friends to ragequit. :teach:
I will note that the Darkling is the stupidest shit I've ever seen. I've never been in last long enough to utilize it myself. It usually turns into someone using that Global Town wipe ever 3-4 weeks. As much as I love Hot Foot, I don't like having to spam it every single turn.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who always spins/rolls a 0 when Mitch the digger shows up.
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I'm playing versus two CPUs on normal, and I'm raping them. :teach:
I got lucky, I guess. Dokapon seems to be mostly about luck, though there is some skill.
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Pah, luck. I thought it was all about picking the wizard and being a horrendous douche bag every turn. :teach:
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Pah, luck. I thought it was all about picking the wizard and being a horrendous douche bag every turn. :teach:
Wizard has a rough time early game due to being so fragile and not having time to buff his magic stat up. Mid-late game magic is pretty godlike though, but I guess then you have to worry about the good counter magics as well.
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My 2cents: TacticsOgre: The Knight of Lodoss (GBA)
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Gawd, I just remembered these games.
Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile.
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Gawd, I just remembered these games.
Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile.
You know, I always wondered why Resident Evil got mad fame when Parasite Eve was around. That game was awesome.
Also +Heat for fellow VP fan.
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I'm playing VP on my PSP, but the voice acting is enough to make me not want to continue playing it. :psyduck:
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Indeed. VP is one of the most awesome games I've ever played. I'm one of the very fortunate few to have all three VP games, legitly. (I don't have VP: Lenneth as I don't have a PSP, but it is just a port of VP1 anyway.) It's very consistently in my top five, vying with acknowledged heavyweights like Chrono Trigger.
I even had the guidebook at one point. Lost/misplaced it. Someone should buy that thing and scan that bitch, it's like $85 online now and it was damn useful. Sareno Academy (*shudders*) would've been nearly impossible without its maps. It's just so much harder to do those instructions in plaintext.
Plus it still has some info no free online FAQs do.
The PS2 "sequel" is better in some ways, but worse in others. Battle system's nice and semi-realtime, but they add a lot of complicated factors. Music's a mixed bag - it's quality, but a lot of it isn't as "memorable." There are still a few tunes. Check out "Alms for the Small One," "A Motion of Finishing Blow," "Indescribable Grief," "The Meditation of Many Years," and "Neighboring Infinity." A technical note (with me drawing on PS2 sound engine hacking experience here): The game music, stunningly, is NOT streamed - this is SEQUENCED stuff. Honestly it's one of the most amazing sequence sound engines I've ever heard, along with the little-known PS1 game "Racing Lagoon."
The DS one is an interesting spin in that you don't play a Valkyrie at all - you play someone who seeks revenge against her for taking one of your friends as an Einherjar. It's thoroughly a Tactics RPG, with a fair bit of tunes from the PS1 version being re-included into the game, meshing decently well with the new tunes (I'm especially fond of "A Pronouncement from Hel" and "Unusual Line Of Drawn Swords Stream.")
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VP was a great game and VP: Lenneth was great also. :fap: "Come to me dark warriors, battle awaits us!" :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap:
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I'm playing VP on my PSP, but the voice acting is enough to make me not want to continue playing it. :psyduck:
It's only really atrocious at the very beginning prologue. The rest ranges from easily forgettable to FUCKING AWESOME (I'm looking at you, Lezard). Interesting note is that the VA for Lezard and Arngrim is the same person. He did another character too, iirc. His vocal ability is GODLIKE. Another guy did both Lucien and Grey. That shit's pretty impressive too.
Indeed. VP is one of the most awesome games I've ever played. I'm one of the very fortunate few to have all three VP games, legitly. (I don't have VP: Lenneth as I don't have a PSP, but it is just a port of VP1 anyway.) It's very consistently in my top five, vying with acknowledged heavyweights like Chrono Trigger.
I even had the guidebook at one point. Lost/misplaced it. Someone should buy that thing and scan that bitch, it's like $85 online now and it was damn useful. Sareno Academy (*shudders*) would've been nearly impossible without its maps. It's just so much harder to do those instructions in plaintext.
Plus it still has some info no free online FAQs do.
The PS2 "sequel" is better in some ways, but worse in others. Battle system's nice and semi-realtime, but they add a lot of complicated factors. Music's a mixed bag - it's quality, but a lot of it isn't as "memorable." There are still a few tunes. Check out "Alms for the Small One," "A Motion of Finishing Blow," "Indescribable Grief," "The Meditation of Many Years," and "Neighboring Infinity." A technical note (with me drawing on PS2 sound engine hacking experience here): The game music, stunningly, is NOT streamed - this is SEQUENCED stuff. Honestly it's one of the most amazing sequence sound engines I've ever heard, along with the little-known PS1 game "Racing Lagoon."
The DS one is an interesting spin in that you don't play a Valkyrie at all - you play someone who seeks revenge against her for taking one of your friends as an Einherjar. It's thoroughly a Tactics RPG, with a fair bit of tunes from the PS1 version being re-included into the game, meshing decently well with the new tunes (I'm especially fond of "A Pronouncement from Hel" and "Unusual Line Of Drawn Swords Stream.")
Yeah, I own original copy of VP lenneth and silmeria, as well as the guidebook for both. The only thing I ever used the lenneth guidebook for was getting A ending and looking up various artifacts to see whether I should toss them or not though. I never actually found any of the dungeons that difficult outside of a couple of the late hard mode ones (well, and seraphic gate, but that's a given). I don't really like to use walkthroughs unless I know there's something very easily missable that I want, you know? Silmeria guidebook was just garbage though. I've never seen such unorganized data tables before.
I chose not to get the DS VP, after hearing how it was such a failure. I was really looking forward to that game too. Thinking about it almost upsets me as much as thinking back on THIS (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2854009). UGH, why would you spend an entire year making such fucking amazing shit, just to troll everyone? I fucking hate you, Japan.
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Well, it's not really BAD. It's just radically different from what most people expected, and I think that led to the disappointment.
I still don't really regret buying it. It's got some nice music, interesting characters, and all the stuff that's essential for a good VP game. It's just done quite differently.
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Oh good lord, thanks to the person who mentioned Parasite Eve, it brings back a whole lot of memories. That game was fabulous. Why did the franchise die off? I was hoping they'll make a PE3 or similar. :psyduck:
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Every time I start a battle and she goes, "to my side my noble Einherjar!" .. I want to just.. :psyduck: Brains all over the wall.
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To be fair, VP's voice cast is actually one of its strengths in the dubs. These aren't no-name dubbers; in fact a lot of them were doing dubbing for Pokemon.
A lot of them do sound their parts very well (Jelanda, Mystina, Lyseria) by Rachel Lillis, for example.
Of course, then you get the complete fucking oddballs (Grey) by Eric Stuart or Ed Paul's Suo who didn't even TRY to sound asian.
And then you got the most badass wizard in the game, Lezard Valeth, who was voiced by Maddie Blaustein. Besides being M2F transgender, Blaustein also did characters like Arngrim, Lawfer, and even Barbarossa. Sadly, she died just a bit over 16 months ago.
Believe me, I've heard far worse dubs, in both games and anime, than VP's.
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Well, it's not really BAD. It's just radically different from what most people expected, and I think that led to the disappointment.
I still don't really regret buying it. It's got some nice music, interesting characters, and all the stuff that's essential for a good VP game. It's just done quite differently.
No, there are some things that are just plain bad. They turned your team attacks from something cool and useful into a "hey if you don't kill x number of people with this shit, we're going to punish you". That's just poor development choice, and kills a part of your freedom to play as you wish. Even just how the team attacks were implemented was fucking weak, and could have been improved a LOT, considering you're required to use them constantly. There's some other shit too, but that was one of the few big reasons that really left a bad taste in my mouth.
Every time I start a battle and she goes, "to my side my noble Einherjar!" .. I want to just.. :psyduck: Brains all over the wall.
Seriously? I like all of Lenneth's voice acting. I think she's pretty great.
Of course, then you get the complete fucking oddballs (Grey) by Eric Stuart or Ed Paul's Suo who didn't even TRY to sound asian.
I'd honestly rather have the VA not have any sort of regional dialect than try too hard and end up with a shitty accent. Also it's a shame that Grey isn't nearly as awesome as his crazy voice would lead you to believe.
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Thinking about it almost upsets me as much as thinking back on THIS (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2854009). UGH, why would you spend an entire year making such fucking amazing shit, just to troll everyone? I fucking hate you, Japan.
I cry a little inside every time I see that "Enjoy April Fool's" at the end of the clip. My demand for a good danmaku loli RPG will be made a reality if I have to write the game myself.
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If you need some writers, I can do some writing.
And voice acting if you need a good "heavy."
I'd honestly rather have the VA not have any sort of regional dialect than try too hard and end up with a shitty accent. Also it's a shame that Grey isn't nearly as awesome as his crazy voice would lead you to believe.
Well, Jun sounded pretty good for faux-accent stuff. I think Nanami had a bit of asian tone to her as well. And yeah. Grey was pretty disappointing. I mean... Icicle Disaster has to be one of the least-fitting and generally bad soul crushes a character can have. It doesn't even fit his image. Belenus' Extreme Void might've sucked, but it fit his image at least.
Plus he sounded like a slightly constipated Piccolo.
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I did a set of female heavy voices for a female heavy model. Apparently they're pretty good. :teach:
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The only way I can ever pull off a female voice is with some editing software. My voice is way too deep and masculine to do it normally. :P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70XQsiTOK4I
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The only way I can ever pull off a female voice is with some editing software. My voice is way too deep and masculine to do it normally. :P
I have hacks. It's called a vagina.
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Yeah, but I'm not that eager to cut my nuts off. :P
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Yeah, but I'm not that eager to cut my nuts off. :P
If you really understood just how much vagina hax can get you in life, you might think differently. :psyduck:
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Serious. I've had people yell at me for not using mine to the fullest. I'm like, sorry, I like being a hiki. :emo:
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I cry a little inside every time I see that "Enjoy April Fool's" at the end of the clip. My demand for a good danmaku loli RPG will be made a reality if I have to write the game myself.[/quote]
lol, make me remeber the past years typemoon 1st april fooll....the mirai fukuin movie anounce and the neco arc evolution live action >_<. Why they don`t made a true neco arc movie? <3
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Because us Sacchin fans would rise up as one and slay them.
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Because us Sacchin fans would rise up as one and slay them.
For some reason i would enjoy seeing that ;D
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lol, make me remeber the past years typemoon 1st april fooll
I so would have wanted to see a Mirai Fukuin movie. Ryougi Mana would be fappable win.
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Shit, you guys are talking about VP and DRAGON FORCE and I'm not here, lol. I have no idea how many times I replayed Dragon Force on my Saturn, but I know I cleared all of the generals' paths a few times. I bought the Sega Ages remake on PS2, it has like...redrawn art for everything and redone music, a few new characters and some other things. It came with an art book and a Teiris pin, too :D
Valkyrie Profile...well, I love that game. VP2 and the DS one are pretty good too. They didn't keep Purify Weird Soul, though =/ "soul crush" is lame compared to that, sounds more like a Soul Calibur mechanic. Actually wait, it is.
Final Fantasy IV is the FF game I've played the most of, every version, over and over, probably because it was the first FF game I really got into as a kid. I played FF1 in its era too, but that game doesn't have so much to latch onto or characters to like. I actually enjoyed the GBA version of 4 better than the DS one, but the latter definitely has its strong points. "The After" stuff on the Wii is pretty nice too.
Any of you Working Designs fans play Popful Mail on Sega CD? It's incredibly obscure, but if you liked Lunar, that's something to look into. Also Albert Odyssey on the Saturn.
I play random Wizardry games off and on for some reason. For years, I stumbled around in V on the SNES until last year or so when I got serious and used save states to rape it. That game is ridiculous.
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Final Fantasy IV is the FF game I've played the most of, every version, over and over, probably because it was the first FF game I really got into as a kid.
This kind of thing I've never really understood. I don't understand nostalgia gaming. Reminiscing about fun times you had when playing old games is good and all, but going back and replaying the shit out of an game that often purely on the nostalgia value? Doesn't make sense at all to me. I'd much much rather experience something new that play on old game most of the time. The only exceptions are games that just have no equal. There just plain isn't any other game out there in the same style of VP Lenneth or OB64 that does its thing better than they did.
Any of you Working Designs fans play Popful Mail on Sega CD? It's incredibly obscure, but if you liked Lunar, that's something to look into. Also Albert Odyssey on the Saturn.
The only Sega system I've ever owned was the Genesis. =\
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LoliSauce: Maybe I should link you to my brainchild.
Project 2612 - The Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive Music Archive (http://project2612.org/)
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Dragon Force? that strategic RPG for the Saturn? i have to try it out
i've recently discovered the wonderful masterpiece that is Castlevania Symphony of the Night, the Saturn upgrade to be exact
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LoliSauce: Maybe I should link you to my brainchild.
Project 2612 - The Sega Genesis/Sega Mega Drive Music Archive (http://project2612.org/)
Not to sound stalkerish, but I already looked around there when I saw it linked in your profile.
Anyway I don't really care for game music usually, nor was I a big fan of too many Genesis games.
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I've only really replayed 4 when it was remade, which seems like a lot because it's been redone like 6 times now :toot: Honestly, I can't replay the same game over and over either, at least in an RPG's case. I replay some games because I never got to beat them or do something significant in them, but in other cases like with VP on the DS, I only played it once, got the A ending and didn't bother with the other paths. That's apparently pretty pro though?
However, Tactics and Symphony of the Night are exceptions. I've even bought those same games multiple times -on the same system-. Neither of them have been "remade" so much as just repackaged a few times, and I've had to play every version of both. I'm a huge Castlevania nerd though. I bought an old NES once just because I found a Castlevania III cart. Might still be the best game imo. As much as I've played and loved Symphony, that game is way too easy. You have to go out of your way to die in that game and there's like 8 ways to heal yourself, or you could just find a save point, or you could just turn the game off because you saved two minutes ago. Order of Ecclesia was a formula I really liked though.
Who has a PSP and hasn't bought Dracula X Chronicles? You should do that now. Leave Melty Bread. I'm a Belmont.
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I need to play Shin Sedai Shuumei/Futuristic Goemon again soon. Playing through Mystical Ninja 1 and 2 (N64) makes me feel like playing Futuristic. It's a tad bit more serious toned than the mainstream ones too.
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lol, i'm replaying now my super metroid (have the original cartridge =p). Maybe i will someday end with collecting rate 100%? (my max until now was 97%...and that time i really don't have any idea to where search for more).
And i'm strongly inclined to replay the snes Clock tower after replaing metroid 3. Whould recomend it to anyone that like survival horror games
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Any of you Working Designs fans play Popful Mail on Sega CD?
Oh man, what a great game. It's like WonderBoy in Monster World but hilarious. I never finished it, though - something unspeakable happened to my save and I haven't gone back to start it again. The dialogue in that game is kinda strange, though - I showed the opening to my younger brother once and he was like :slowpoke:
Somehow this reminded me of Discworld also. That game was hilarious, but I could never stick with point-and-click adventure games long enough - I always run into a rut when the "non-logical" puzzle appears and I just lose interest. When I think about it, the only p'nc adventure game I ever finished was Police Quest.
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Final Fantasy IV is the FF game I've played the most of, every version, over and over, probably because it was the first FF game I really got into as a kid.
Same except replacing 'every version' with 'the SNES one' and 'over and over' with 'every year or so'. I played the newer titles, but I prefer my the obviously dated version. Though I've noticed that Square's done a lot to placate (and milk money from) FFIV fans recently. Dunno whether to be concerned or squeal like a rabid fangirl, but I don't the sequels to water down the original game. Which is what happened to FFVII (a game I hated anyways).
Lol @ me talking about 'watered down' Final Fantasy.
This kind of thing I've never really understood. I don't understand nostalgia gaming. Reminiscing about fun times you had when playing old games is good and all, but going back and replaying the shit out of an game that often purely on the nostalgia value? Doesn't make sense at all to me. I'd much much rather experience something new that play on old game most of the time. The only exceptions are games that just have no equal. There just plain isn't any other game out there in the same style of VP Lenneth or OB64 that does its thing better than they did.
I understand it if they go back to it after a couple of years. Typically speaking, I don't re-visit a game (those I get around to, anyways) for about four-five years. The vast majority of games I never get through more than once unless it's something I played as a kid. Multiplayer games / games designed for multiple completions are obviously exempt.
Still, I usually breeze through games fast enough that I can't afford to purchase new ones all the time.
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The SNES game was watered down to begin with. It has like half the character skills it should have. I'm sure you've heard the talk of 'easy type' and 'hard type' versions of the game.
The DS and Wii FFIV games were far from simple ports. Even the GBA game had a lot added to it (extra dungeon for every character, yay, also you can beat the game with any party, even Edward is kinda useful). I think the GBA game might actually be the best...Excalibur duplicating doesn't work anymore, either ;p
I guess I'm more in the squealing camp, then. Edge is the only FF ninja that matters. Re: Ogre Battle 64, I recently saw that they added that to the Virtual Console. Might have to get that...and oddly enough, Rondo of Blood is up there too. They know what's good, apparently.
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Well, it's that time again...
Or at least when I get another day off...
To spend my time doing things of epicness. However, if you don't know the background of them, you may as well be like... :psyduck:?
My next two projects which I plan to implement are NOT MY ORIGINAL IDEAS, but ones that I will steal because of their epicness.
BEHOLD!!!
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/11/98/55/73/sample10.jpg)
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/11/98/55/73/91914b10.jpg)
I have spent way too much of my life this past year becoming drowned in the world of Touhou. The Yukari is kinda cool, but the Yuyuko...that is win.
In other news, I reopened my copy of Tales of Symphonia today. Sheena was loyally awaiting my return.
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I guess I'm more in the squealing camp, then. Edge is the only FF ninja that matters. Re: Ogre Battle 64, I recently saw that they added that to the Virtual Console. Might have to get that...and oddly enough, Rondo of Blood is up there too. They know what's good, apparently.
So I heard. You should get it for sure. I've already made sure every close friend of mine with a Wii did.
And speaking of Rondos of things,(what is a rondo anyway? Sounds like a dance or some shit) anyone with a DS should play Rondo of Swords. It's an SRPG with some really unique and well implemented mechanics. You definitely have to think differently than the normal SRPG mindset when playing it.
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The SNES game was watered down to begin with. It has like half the character skills it should have. I'm sure you've heard the talk of 'easy type' and 'hard type' versions of the game.
That's a fair point, actually.
1. Original Japanese Version
2. Stripped Down English Version with hilariously bad translation. Difficulty reduced.
3. Even easier Japanese version based off the English version with some weird stuff added, including an awesome sword that turns enemies into pigs.
Although why they made an Easy-Type FFIV is beyond me. Even the original version of the game is easy.
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(what is a rondo anyway? Sounds like a dance or some shit)
It is musical, but it is not a dance.. it's a type of song... kinda.. tough to explain. Thus wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo
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(what is a rondo anyway? Sounds like a dance or some shit)
It is musical, but it is not a dance.. it's a type of song... kinda.. tough to explain. Thus wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo
That shit's way over my head. :slowpoke:
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2. Stripped Down English Version with hilariously bad translation. Difficulty reduced.
And 100% more Spoony Bards.
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I am on my second playthrough of Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey for DS. I have 70+ hours logged. Someone stop me. >_<
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Better than an eighth playthrough of Tales of Symphonia, just so you can get that one last ending :V
Trust me.
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Let's see. At least 30 times through Chrono Trigger:
To get all the endings on the SNES version.
To get all of them again on the PS1 re-release a decade later, as well as the new stuff.
To get all of them AGAIN on the DS re-release about a half-decade after the PS1 re-release, as well as the new stuff.
I'd get the exact count but I'm too lazy to look it up.
And that's just one RPG. I've played a lot of multi-ending RPGs...
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The difference is that Chrono Trigger is really short.
I actually haven't played any of the Shin Megami Tensei games. :emo:
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I still haven't finished Episode Aegis, or Persona 4, but I will not lie, Episode Yourself from Persona 3 was the greatest RPG I have played. It was incredible, incredible, incredible.
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The difference is that Chrono Trigger is really short.
I actually haven't played any of the Shin Megami Tensei games. :emo:
Most people wouldn't call 30-40 hours for an RPG short. Although granted, some of those endings you can wind up doing in 15 minutes once you max everyone out.
And for some endings, you actually have to re-play through a good chunk of the game.
Oh yeah... got everyone in Chrono Cross, as well. That needs at least 3 playthroughs.
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I wonder if Mimana has multiple endings. :psyduck: I'm having trouble playing through more than the first dungeon, because the game feels so clunky and awful.
Might go back to Yggdra Union.
DP - I'll also send you the rest of that stuff tonight if you're around.
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I've been feeling like replaying Phantom Brave, but am debating whether I want to replay my PS2 copy (which was the first game I bought with my first paycheck at my first job), or dropping $30 for the Wii version. From what I've heard, there isn't a whole lot of new content.
Also, Resonance of Fate is perhaps the first game I've done an immediate New Game+ without skipping any cutscenes. This is probably the fault of the choppy storytelling making the story too vague the first time through, but I'm liking the game more now than on my first playthrough.
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I wonder if Mimana has multiple endings. :psyduck: I'm having trouble playing through more than the first dungeon, because the game feels so clunky and awful.
Might go back to Yggdra Union.
DP - I'll also send you the rest of that stuff tonight if you're around.
Mimana has multiple endings. One normal and one for each female character - Sophie, Melrose, Tinon and Patty. But really, would you go through Mimana a second time after you're done with it?
KitM on the PSP is rather awkward. I can't use my guys in leveling mode. What gives? :psyduck:
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Megaman X6, because i can't unlock all the endings >:(
and i'm playing chrono trigger for 2º time obviusly i want to view all endings, really is the best game of the history :teach:.
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Might go back to Yggdra Union.
Dept. Heaven saga owns, be it riviera, yggdra or knights in the nightmare, but my favorite is yggdra <3. I have replayed the game like 5 times to get all cards (it spend a lot of time to cath the kiss of death and the dragon killer, lol). Other sugestion would be check out seiken densetsu 2 and 3. It's a shame that seiken densetsu 3 haven't been released in US....
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Megaman X6, because i can't unlock all the endings >:(
X6 is a bitch, and if you get unlucky Metal Shark Player's stage can literally be impossible to finish.
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Most people wouldn't call 30-40 hours for an RPG short
Shorter than Tales of Symphonia. The first playthrough of that game will be at minimum 60 hours (if you just do the main quest), and several of the others will be longer than that. (Getting every character to level 100, beating Abyssion, getting the titles for maximum combined party levels...)
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Well of course there will be exceptions. I still think most would not class 30-40 short.
20, sure, but 30-40 is around the average length for a fair bit of them.
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X6 wasn't as hard as people make it out to be imo, but then again I played through it as Black Zero which is kinda cheating lol
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Might go back to Yggdra Union.
Dept. Heaven saga owns, be it riviera, yggdra or knights in the nightmare, but my favorite is yggdra <3. I have replayed the game like 5 times to get all cards (it spend a lot of time to cath the kiss of death and the dragon killer, lol). Other sugestion would be check out seiken densetsu 2 and 3. It's a shame that seiken densetsu 3 haven't been released in US....
Um, I played SD2 and 3 when they were released. Did you even read the thread?
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Let's see. At least 30 times through Chrono Trigger:
To get all the endings on the SNES version.
To get all of them again on the PS1 re-release a decade later, as well as the new stuff.
To get all of them AGAIN on the DS re-release about a half-decade after the PS1 re-release, as well as the new stuff.
I'd get the exact count but I'm too lazy to look it up.
And that's just one RPG. I've played a lot of multi-ending RPGs...
i'd wish SE didn't canned Crimson Echoes and chrono resurrection :emo:
anyway, i've FINALLY played Disgaea Hour of Darkness after delaying many times, i can proudly say that i'm bustin' it wide open, 85 hours in one week. i can't just stop playing it.
when i'll finish it, i'll go on with Xenosaga II and the other Nippon Ichi games
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I love disgaea, and by the looks of these e-motes someone else here does too.
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anyway, i've FINALLY played Disgaea Hour of Darkness after delaying many times, i can proudly say that i'm bustin' it wide open, 85 hours in one week. i can't just stop playing it.
when i'll finish it, i'll go on with Xenosaga II and the other Nippon Ichi games
Yeah. Once you play a NIS SRPG, you never will be able to stop. They're so addicting it borders on illegal.
The second I knew I was hooked on Disgaea: "Who gives a damn about you? Your new name is 'Mid-Boss.'"
SOLD. And it just gets better and better from there...
Plus it has a Melty link - if you're playing with the Japanese voiceovers, Laharl, Big Sis Prinny, and Len/White Len share a voice actress, Kaori Mizuhashi.
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Srpgs are basically my thing, and I have to say that the original Disgaea is the most fun I've had with any game of the genre, as an overall experience. Disgaea 2 had far, far superior everything if you ignore the story though. Among the dark world levels were the most well implemented puzzles I've ever seen in an srpg. Seriously. Some of them left me breathless in how well constructed they were. The fatal flaw of D2 though, is it just plain has TOO much to do, so it gets to be a chore after a while. There are a number of other srpgs that were superior in certain ways as well, but really when I sum up all the positives and negatives and average it all out, Disgaea 1 was the best.
Also, as a serious N1 fan, I strongly oppose purchasing the DS port of Disgaea. Every single game they directly develop that has Harada as the artist has Pleinaire as a cameo character, and ONLY a cameo character. Making her a playable character in the DS port (which is shitty to begin with) is like a sin! HOLY FUCKING SHIT NERD RAGE LEVELS REACHING MAXIMUM ITS GOOFY TIME :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
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Too bad that I bought that port then... but to my credit, it is because:
1) I felt like I was sinning for not having at least one actual, non-pirate copy of the game.
2) The PS2 version is fucking hard to find for a decent price
3) No PSP, so no Afternoon of Darkness for me otherwise.
However, it is unopened, as I AM A NORSE GOD OF TRICKERY AND SEDUCTION. :P
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Pleinaire must be the most loved NPC ever! That is, if your talking about who i think you are.
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Also, as a serious N1 fan, I strongly oppose purchasing the DS port of Disgaea. Every single game they directly develop that has Harada as the artist has Pleinaire as a cameo character, and ONLY a cameo character. Making her a playable character in the DS port (which is shitty to begin with) is like a sin! HOLY FUCKING SHIT NERD RAGE LEVELS REACHING MAXIMUM ITS GOOFY TIME :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
wat. she really is? oh god i want to try that
now my Xbox360 came back from assistance (i got an E74 Error) so i'm starting on Bayonetta and Soul Calibur 4, Disgaea will wait :D
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Too bad that I bought that port then... but to my credit, it is because:
1) I felt like I was sinning for not having at least one actual, non-pirate copy of the game.
2) The PS2 version is fucking hard to find for a decent price
3) No PSP, so no Afternoon of Darkness for me otherwise.
Yo, ease up on the piracy talk. You should know better.
Also- what, THIS PS2 COPY?!
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2929/dscn0520pa.jpg)
I got it shortly after launch. I didn't know it was hard to find these days. PSP version is probably the best though, since they added some cool stuff without gaying it up.
Pleinaire must be the most loved NPC ever! That is, if your talking about who i think you are.
YES. She's so adorable~ If you ever go to Harada's site, his archived drawings are like 80% Pleinaire. lol
wat. she really is? oh god i want to try that
D= How could you say such a thing? I thought you were my bro, Van. Don't you defile her with your dirty hands!
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Also- what, THIS PS2 COPY?!
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2929/dscn0520pa.jpg)
damn you loli bitch :D
D= How could you say such a thing? I thought you were my bro, Van. Don't you defile her with your dirty hands!
is the DS version that BAD???
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I don't like the PSP version because of the counter bug. I've had it crash too many times because of that.
The DS version, though, has no JP voices, and a downsampled soundtrack. Drawbacks to each.
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Nothing wrong with doing what I did, for the record - I *DO* own the game. But I get the message. Touchy subject and all.
And yes. Soundtrack is downsampled slightly due to being sequenced music as opposed to the original PS2 ADPCM Stream audio. It is remixed very slightly.
Maybe when I actually got money, I'll look for it again for PS2. I do have Disgaea 2 for PS2 since they actually released it in decent numbers. Sadly, no Disgaea 3 in the future for me unless I can get a PS3, or they port it to other systems. Unlikely...
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I already finished X6, any suggestions???
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X5, if you haven't played it, is pretty good too.
Also the Megaman Legends games aren't that bad. And Roll Caskett and Tron Bonne are every pedobear's wet dream at some point.
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Also- what, THIS PS2 COPY?!
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2929/dscn0520pa.jpg)
Yep, I've got that...and 2 and 3...and X-Edge...and Phantom Brave (PS2)...and Makai Kingdoms...and La Pucelle Tactics
NIS = win
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X5, if you haven't played it, is pretty good too.
Also the Megaman Legends games aren't that bad. And Roll Caskett and Tron Bonne are every pedobear's wet dream at some point.
Yes i played it and the X1 X2 X3 X4.
X7 is shit in my opinion, in my head the history finish in X6. :teach:
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X Edge looked like ass. =\ I didn't check it out at all.
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X Edge looked like ass. =\ I didn't check it out at all.
It kinda is in my opinion. You get like 3 characters in every stage, a bunch of skills that you wondering what character(s) requirements are needed. In my opinion, pass by it.
I started going back to some old school RPGs. Most of them are much better than the new stuff released.
*gets list*
I'm currently playing these for now:
Legend of Dragoon
Yggdra Union (PSP ver. Going to replay it again for Hard Mode.)
Tales of Destiny 2 (PSP ver. Already finished it but playing again for fun.)
After I finish those up I still need to finish up/start:
Final Fantasy 13
Disgaea 2 DHD (Need to grind)
Chrono Cross (Need to start)
Legend of Legaia (Started but at the beginning)
Tales of Destiny Director's Cut (Need to play Leon's side)
.Hack GU Vol 3. Redemption (Started but at the beginning)
Rogue Galaxy (I don't even remember where I'm at in this game)
Bleh, way to many games. I'm thinking about dropping Dragoon though. Does it get better later on is Disc 3 and 4? I'm currently on Disc 2.
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Oh god, do I choose sexy hot bishounen Roswell, or evil maniacal loli Rosalie (lol Rosary)?! :psyduck: :psyduck:
I know Rosary is better overall because she just needs an ATK bump and edible ATK items are easy to find. :psyduck:
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X7 is shit in my opinion, in my head the history finish in X6. :teach:
X8 wasn't that bad. There's also all the MMZ games, then the ZX games.
I bought Cross Edge before I knew anything about it because the concept sounded cool. It's still in the shrink wrap in my room, several months later, just like Arcana Heart 2.
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X1-4 and L1-2 are the only mm games worth paying money for anymore, outside of the original series. BN3 was only good if you had friends to play multiplayer with. Otherwise it sucked.
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So, with that in mind, what are those games that regularly give you the urge to revisit them?
Really not sure why, but THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melty_Blood) game keeps making me want to come back to it for more shenanigans. Any and all of its incarnations, but I've mostly been spending time with its latest version.
Think I need some help with this.
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X1-4 and L1-2 are the only mm games worth paying money for anymore, outside of the original series. BN3 was only good if you had friends to play multiplayer with. Otherwise it sucked.
Yo, straight up I think that MMZ1-3 were the best of any of the games, for story and for gameplay. I'm not one for asshole difficulty platformers though, so my opinion is usually skewed compared to the usual MM fanbase (who prefer the originals).
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Really not sure why, but THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melty_Blood) game keeps making me want to come back to it for more shenanigans. Any and all of its incarnations, but I've mostly been spending time with its latest version.
Think I need some help with this.
(http://darkpulse.project2612.org/fuckle.gif)
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X1-4 and L1-2 are the only mm games worth paying money for anymore, outside of the original series. BN3 was only good if you had friends to play multiplayer with. Otherwise it sucked.
Yo, straight up I think that MMZ1-3 were the best of any of the games, for story and for gameplay. I'm not one for asshole difficulty platformers though, so my opinion is usually skewed compared to the usual MM fanbase (who prefer the originals).
MMZ definitely shouldn't be overlooked if you like the X-style games, at least. I didn't "pay money" for them myself, but I would have. Just didn't have a GBA to play them on, my eyes aren't good enough to play games like that on a small screen. RPGs or something sure, but not hard action games. The ZX games have some neat concepts and they're not a waste of time or anything, the acting is terrible though.
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.exe 6 was also pretty awesome, if it wasn't for the whole storyline circling the old 'I'm older and bigger than you, so we'll settle this with our navis! WHO'S A BAD MAN?' of nearly all the major battles in the series.
As for Disgaea, I still have to complete the side-quests. I need to suck it up and grind, grind, grind, which would be easier if I didn't have a tendency to create one of each type of character and level them all...
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.exe 6 was also pretty awesome, if it wasn't for the whole storyline circling the old 'I'm older and bigger than you, so we'll settle this with our navis! WHO'S A BAD MAN?' of nearly all the major battles in the series.
As for Disgaea, I still have to complete the side-quests. I need to suck it up and grind, grind, grind, which would be easier if I didn't have a tendency to create one of each type of character and level them all...
I beat all of the super hard battles with just Laharl, because I didn't want to spend xx hours of grinding per each member of my team. For Baal, I had to cheese my way to victory the first time, by lift sacrificing my other team members until I whittled him down with just Laharl, lol. I have killed prinny baal in a single attack before though, which was pretty much the most glorifying thing ever.
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...I liked Command Mission. New characters were cool and the story wasn't all that bad either. The fighting system was simple yet addictive and fun. X and Zero's 2nd Overdrive Modes were broken and the 9Tails Gang were the best side-bosses I've ever fought against in an RPG ever.
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Well, here I am 30 hours into my third playthrough of Tales of Vesperia (I love this game) and I am still finding new sidequests I never knew were in this game.
By third playthrough, I mean third time playing it...I beat the game once, new game plused it...then the data corrupted. So, third time through, new game file, still loving this game. As far as the storyline goes, I think I'm overpowered enough to beat the game in full right now, but there are a bunch of little side stuff and finding all the skits is fun too. Going for a full 100% completion (not on this run because that is impossible) overall. This game is cool, to 100%, you have to new game+ at least once, probably twice, to 100%. My favorite of all the Tales games so far.
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Seeing that you're a vesperia veteran, can you enlighten me when is the earliest anyone in your party can pull off his or her hi-ougi? I'm currently at the Port of Capua Nor, and I assume that's still awfully early game.
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Seeing that you're a vesperia veteran, can you enlighten me when is the earliest anyone in your party can pull off his or her hi-ougi? I'm currently at the Port of Capua Nor, and I assume that's still awfully early game.
Yeah, you are very early in the game. By Hi-ougi, I'm assuming that is referring to their final level attack spells/Mystic Arts. This is done by activating a Lvl 3 or lvl 4 Overlimit then chaining an Arcane Art into a Mystic Art. You won't be able to do this until you get the Limit Trio or Limit Quartet item (which you make through synthesis). The earliest you can make the Limit Trio would be after hitting Mantaic. After creating the Limit Trio, you can get lvl 3 Overlimits, but in order to activate a Mystic Art, you need to have the skill "Special" equipped on the person you are looking to use it with. I believe the first person to get "Special" would be Yuri when you are in the Shrine of Baction...which is quite a long ways away.
So it'll be quite a while before you can activate a Mystic Art.
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Goodness gracious, it's way more difficult than it was in Abyss (all you need was what, level 30, level 35 for Jade). :psyduck: I'm running the PS3 version, by the way, and yes, I do mean Mystic Artes when I said Hi-ougi.
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I believe the first person to get "Special" would be Yuri when you are in the Shrine of Baction...which is quite a long ways away.
I'm probably wrong since its been a long time since I played but I thought Raven got it first?
But you should use Raven anyways because he's awesome.
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Vesperia winning team
Yuri - All-out DPS
Estelle - Healer
Rita - DPS mage
If playing your first time through, I recommend Repede for your fourth since Repede can learn the awesome "Check All" and "Scanner" abilities that makes filling your monster book cake. If not your first time through and you are on a new game+, I am assuming you spent the 10 grade points to repurchase your monster book because that makes sense to do, then use Raven/Karol for your fourth. Raven is good only after learning a few abilities, like "Attack Change" and "Artes Change" and "Love Shot". With these, he can back up heal and still do decent damage. Karol is another alternative. He's slow and doesn't have the best range, but he can hit downed enemies and knock them back up for continuing combos.
For comboing, Judith is godlike after learning her Altered Artes, while Rita is your Grade Farmer. blahblahblah
As you have the PS3 version, you also have the option of using the new pirate loli girl. I have no idea what she specializes in nor how effective she is in combat so I can offer no info regarding her. I find it bullshit that the version released initially did NOT have her included nor were they offering DLC that added her to the game. Basically, I see the 360 version (the only version to hit the states) to be like...Tales of Vesperia: Beta...whereas the PS3 version as the full game.
Anyway, as far as "Special" goes, Yuri learns it via a sword you get through an event in Baction. The others you obtain "Special" for them through weapons in item synthesis. You don't earn enough synthesis rating to make them until after the return to Zaphias. If you are in a New Game+ and transferred over your item synthesis info, then these are available right from the get go.
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Blast from my past. And yes, I made a custom Sion icon. :teach:
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Yuri/Rita/Karol/Raven
Karol gets the heal that heals for 50% and love shot works well enough for the group since its instant. Estelle gets wrecked in battles where you're surrounded or boss fights with two or more bosses. Only problem is while Love Shot doesn't take long to get, Karol's best heal does.
Besides Raven has time stop.
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Spoil me a little - how tough are the loli twin bosses with the X-strike-like mystic arte?
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depends on what level you are. I'm not quite at them yet on this playthrough. They are near the end of the second chapter and that's where I'm at, however I'm still going around trying to learn all the weapon skills I can. Of course this just amounts to me fighting Lord of the Plains over and over since he gives decent LP and is easy to beat. btw...by this point in the game, it is recommended to be about lvl 50. I am currently lvl 70 because I am being silly with power leveling.
If you are 'appropriate' level for the point in the game, they may stomp you. I find it fun how this game is easy, easy, easy...then they throw a boss at you and all of a sudden things become hard because the boss activates Overlimit and roflstomps your teams' faces into the dirt.
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Now i'm playing devil may cry 1 but my PS2 emulator sucks, it runs at 40-50 fps
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Now i'm playing devil may cry 1 but my PS2 emulator sucks, it runs at 40-50 fps
i've played the hell out of DMC3 SE
now i'm always playing Mushihimesama Futari on 360, it's that kind of mind-blowing difficulty that doesn't stop you from playing
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now i'm always playing Mushihimesama Futari on 360, it's that kind of mind-blowing difficulty that doesn't stop you from playing
Is Futari much more difficult than vanilla?
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Is Futari much more difficult than vanilla?
i guess you're talking about PS2 Mushi
IMO, first Mushi was harder (considering the nature of the port, it wasn't near arcade perfect at all: laggy controls and BLURRY, it was confusing and almost unplayable)
the scoring system is easier to understand, the accuracy from the original arcade PCB is higher (that means you won't have to stretch your eyes to see what's coming on you, and there's a Novice mode too
in terms of difficulty as bullet patterns, depends on what version you're playing, it goes like this from easiest to hardest:
Novice > Arrange (uber easy: giga wing gameplay and autobombs) > 1.5 Original > 1.5 Maniac > BL Maniac > BL Original > BL God > 1.5 Ultra
Arrange, Novice and 1.5 are available in the disc, Black Label will cost 1200MS, but trust me, BL is fresh air compared to the rest
so the second one is "easier"; you know what you're doing, you know how to score, and the controls are responsive, even with the 360 stock pad i can 1CC 1.5 and BL Original without much problem
if you're thinking about getting the game.. what are you waiting for??? :V
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Is Futari much more difficult than vanilla?
i guess you're talking about PS2 Mushi
IMO, first Mushi was harder (considering the nature of the port, it wasn't near arcade perfect at all: laggy controls and BLURRY, it was confusing and almost unplayable)
the scoring system is easier to understand, the accuracy from the original arcade PCB is higher (that means you won't have to stretch your eyes to see what's coming on you, and there's a Novice mode too
in terms of difficulty as bullet patterns, depends on what version you're playing, it goes like this from easiest to hardest:
Novice > Arrange (uber easy: giga wing gameplay and autobombs) > 1.5 Original > 1.5 Maniac > BL Maniac > BL Original > BL God > 1.5 Ultra
Arrange, Novice and 1.5 are available in the disc, Black Label will cost 1200MS, but trust me, BL is fresh air compared to the rest
so the second one is "easier"; you know what you're doing, you know how to score, and the controls are responsive, even with the 360 stock pad i can 1CC 1.5 and BL Original without much problem
if you're thinking about getting the game.. what are you waiting for??? :V
No 360 yet.
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No 360 yet.
PS3 user or RROD'd??? :emo:
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RROD is easy stuff to fix. Most people don't know wtf to do when the 360 gets like that. It's simply $8 of supplies from Home Depot and maybe 30 min of time.
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Neither. Last system I bought was a jp ps2. I'll be buying a 360 whenever I feel I have enough of a financial cushion to drop $400 to get a full setup. I'll prolly end up buying a jp 360 as well for senko no ronde duo, and also since most US games are not region locked (or so I've heard).
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I'll prolly end up buying a jp 360 as well for senko no ronde duo, and also since most US games are not region locked
you should do so, games like Blazblue are region-free (at least for US and NTSC-J consoles)
also, Deathsmiles 2X is out today
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Oh snap, I played Deathsmiles 2dx when I was in Japan. The changes to the system are really weird. Weird as in I don't know what they are exactly, like the lock-on system is different but I don't know how it works. On the plus side, the lolis look even more loli than in the original, if that's possible.
I also played Mushihimesama Futari in Taiwan, that was fun. When I came home I immediately bought that for the 360 (even though I don't have a 360, lol), but I'm still waiting for that to come in (damn ebay).
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Oh snap, I played Deathsmiles 2dx when I was in Japan. The changes to the system are really weird. Weird as in I don't know what they are exactly, like the lock-on system is different but I don't know how it works.
during power-up, every shot causes the enemies to drop valuable rings to score (Lei/trap is the most effective character)
and the lock is used by holding a shot direction, as long as the bar around the character doesn't empty; it's most used in 2 situations
1) background enemies
2) when you're going to exit power-up mode, if you destroy enemies with the lock shot, but you still hold the shot button, suicide bullets spawn and the start to chase you, when you leave the button, those bullets will turn into a great number of rings, very useful to recharge from 0 to 1000 and re-enter power-up mode immediately
On the plus side, the lolis look even more loli than in the original, if that's possible.
in shmups girls age backwards
When I came home I immediately bought that for the 360 (even though I don't have a 360, lol), but I'm still waiting for that to come in (damn ebay).
i hope you really get that game, as the very first region-free game in vidya history, it's damn great
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during power-up, every shot causes the enemies to drop valuable rings to score (Lei/trap is the most effective character)
and the lock is used by holding a shot direction, as long as the bar around the character doesn't empty; it's most used in 2 situations
1) background enemies
2) when you're going to exit power-up mode, if you destroy enemies with the lock shot, but you still hold the shot button, suicide bullets spawn and the start to chase you, when you leave the button, those bullets will turn into a great number of rings, very useful to recharge from 0 to 1000 and re-enter power-up mode immediately
Ah, that explains it, for some reason I thought it was used exclusively for background enemies.
i hope you really get that game, as the very first region-free game in vidya history, it's damn great
But yeah, I've got hype for Mushihime-sama Futari, as much as I love Touhou, I've been itching to play some other shmups at home.
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I'll prolly end up buying a jp 360 as well for senko no ronde duo, and also since most US games are not region locked
you should do so, games like Blazblue are region-free (at least for US and NTSC-J consoles)
also, Deathsmiles 2X is out today
I don't really care about BB. I want 360 for the SRPGs and Danmaku, since all the other games I'd want are multi-platform. I'll probably end up compiling a list of US games that I want and check around if they're all region free or not.
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I'll probably end up compiling a list of US games that I want and check around if they're all region free or not.
you might want to check obviously this: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-00-3-xbox360_compatibility_guide-49-en.html (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-00-3-xbox360_compatibility_guide-49-en.html)
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I'll probably end up compiling a list of US games that I want and check around if they're all region free or not.
you might want to check obviously this: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-00-3-xbox360_compatibility_guide-49-en.html (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-00-3-xbox360_compatibility_guide-49-en.html)
Awesome. That's exactly what I needed.
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Mass Effect and Fallout 3 until I get all achievements and possible endings. Any Metroid game has a high replay value from me as well.
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and FINALLY i got my xconverter 360, i made a quick video :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oHu5IxlBp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oHu5IxlBp4)
enjoy my scrubby english
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love your background for your 360, Van. I might have to get one of those, so I can still get my achievements for these fighters. :prinny:
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who is the first resident evil in cronogically order?
i want to play all of them in cronogicaly order but i don't know what is the 3rd
Resident evil 0
Resident evil 1 director's cut
Resident evil 3
Resident Evil: code veronica
Resident evil 2
:V
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love your background for your 360, Van.
thanks, tomorrow Deathsmiles will be out on US :D
I might have to get one of those, so I can still get my achievements for these fighters. :prinny:
hot DAMN this shit is great, i've tried it with these games:
-KOF98 um
-Garou
-Samurai spirits 2
-KOFXII demo
-NGBC
-Dead or Alive 4 (combo grabs are not a problem anymore)
120% responsive, 120% better than the 360 d-pad
that thing can kiss my ass
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who is the first resident evil in cronogically order?
i want to play all of them in cronogicaly order but i don't know what is the 3rd
Resident evil 0
Resident evil 1 director's cut
Resident evil 3
Resident Evil: code veronica
Resident evil 2
:V
Correct order is something like this. Dates are by series timeline, not release timeline, obviously:
RE0 - July 23, 1998.
RE1/RE:DC/REMake/RE: Deadly Silence (These are all the same game, just redone/retold) - July 24, 1998.
RE: Outbreak 1/2 - September 25-October 1, 1998.
RE3 - September 28, 1998-October 1, 1998.
RE2 (Takes place during events of RE3) - September 29-October 1, 1998.
RE: Code Veronica - December 27, 1998.
RE: Survivor 2 (Though only technically - it's actually a dream Claire has shortly after the events of Code Veronica, thus it's not "real")
RE: Gaiden - Somewhere after RE2 as well as after RE3, since Leon and Barry Burton are the protagonists.
RE: Dead Aim - 2002.
RE4 - 2004.
RE5 - 2009.
Other/Mixed:
RE: Umbrella Chronicles: Depending on the scenario, these take place during RE0, RE1, RE3, and a year before RE4. (2003.)
RE: The Darkside Chronicles: RE2, RE:CV, and a new story set in 2002, as well as a hidden story with Krauser, set during RE4.
Unknown:
RE: Survivor. Never specified exactly, but Leon sent Ark, the protagonist, to collect evidence of Umbrella's "shady doings." Unfortunately, this means it can happen shortly before or shortly after RE2. We can say a date in 1998 is fairly safe.
RE: Revelations for the 3DS. It was just announced; not much is known.
RE: Portable for the PSP. Should be released this year.
You're welcome. :P
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They ditched the entire zombie thing in RE4 and RE5. :psyduck:
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who is the first resident evil in cronogically order?
i want to play all of them in cronogicaly order but i don't know what is the 3rd
Resident evil 0
Resident evil 1 director's cut
Resident evil 3
Resident Evil: code veronica
Resident evil 2
:V
Correct order is something like this. Dates are by series timeline, not release timeline, obviously:
RE0 - July 23, 1998.
RE1/RE:DC/REMake/RE: Deadly Silence (These are all the same game, just redone/retold) - July 24, 1998.
RE: Outbreak 1/2 - September 25-October 1, 1998.
RE3 - September 28, 1998-October 1, 1998.
RE2 (Takes place during events of RE3) - September 29-October 1, 1998.
RE: Code Veronica - December 27, 1998.
RE: Survivor 2 (Though only technically - it's actually a dream Claire has shortly after the events of Code Veronica, thus it's not "real")
RE: Gaiden - Somewhere after RE2 as well as after RE3, since Leon and Barry Burton are the protagonists.
RE: Dead Aim - 2002.
RE4 - 2004.
RE5 - 2009.
Other/Mixed:
RE: Umbrella Chronicles: Depending on the scenario, these take place during RE0, RE1, RE3, and a year before RE4. (2003.)
RE: The Darkside Chronicles: RE2, RE:CV, and a new story set in 2002, as well as a hidden story with Krauser, set during RE4.
Unknown:
RE: Survivor. Never specified exactly, but Leon sent Ark, the protagonist, to collect evidence of Umbrella's "shady doings." Unfortunately, this means it can happen shortly before or shortly after RE2. We can say a date in 1998 is fairly safe.
RE: Revelations for the 3DS. It was just announced; not much is known.
RE: Portable for the PSP. Should be released this year.
You're welcome. :P
thanks i'm starting RE0 with dolphin emulator.
Outbreak is for PS2?
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Outbreak is PS2, yeah.
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don't play Outbreak...play Left 4 Dead.
Outbreak is, in a nutshell, what Left 4 Dead is...with some twists. You play as a random survivor who teams up with other survivors in order to escape a zombiefied Racoon City that is about to be nuked. You have a time limit (not really) consisting of you going through various stages with a more Left 4 Dead feel to it than a Resident Evil feel. What IS cool is that each survivor has different abilities. If you pick the plumber, you can open pipes to crawl through, if you pick the thief, you can pick locks, etc etc. If you, or one of your unfortunate party members, gets bitten, you have a time limit to find an antidote to reverse the zombification, if you don't you become an Infected and you end up playing L4D.
The big reason why this game failed so horribly is that your party AI sucked badly and if you wanted to play with teammates, you had to play online. In order to do so, you NEEDED to have an HDD for your PS2 or else your lag would fuck up everyone's connection and everyone died really quick because zombies were not affected by load times of new areas apparently and would teleport into your face. INSIDE YOUR FACE.
Now, if they redid Outbreak with the new 360 Live or PSN Network (actually PSN is still trash), it would be significantly better, but now it is much too late and everyone will think it is simply a L4D clone. In short, Outbreak had amazing potential and paved the way for the amazing L4D, but due to technological shortcomings of the time, was left with the shit end of the stick.
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Man, fuck Left 4 Dead. People seem to think that game is better than it actually is.
Like Halo.
And World of Warcraft.
And Counterstrike.
*Runs from Coren*
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Man, fuck Left 4 Dead. People seem to think that game is better than it actually is.
Like Halo.
And World of Warcraft.
And Counterstrike.
*Runs from Coren*
Agreed.
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If you are saying that, why not add in TF2. It was by far not the first to utilize the multi-class FPS system and it was definitely not the first to be implemented so well. I would say that SoF2 for multiplayer was far better than TF2. Halo falls into this category as well. Due to its sci-fi storyline and MEMORABLE HERO, it became immensely popular.
But quite simply, Outbreak was the predecessor to L4D and L4D went and improved on much of what made Outbreak so crappy. However, they did remove some of the stuff that gave Outbreak its flair, like the character abilities. One thing I did find lols about Outbreak was once someone got infected and their timer started, you NEVER went and got the cure because it was always in an out of the way location. Your teammate would turn into a zombie right in the middle of the party, so when you got infected, everyone just killed you right there and let you respawn as a zombie elsewhere.
Am I saying that L4D was an amazing game? It was a fun game, but as far as a shooter goes, there are definitely better titles. Counterstrike is boring stuff as well. Now, WoW is something different. MMOs did exist before WoW (Runescape, for example), but it was WoW that brought a new realm to the MMO world. WoW was not the first to incorporate a full 3D environment, nor the quest system or different abilities or character traits/abilities. Nor was it the first to take all of those and put it on a scale as massive and immerse as it was (FFXI).
What differed from WoW and FF-XI would be the story. Sure in FF-XI you had recognizable character classes, but none of the Final Fantasy games (FF X-2 does not exist) have any real connection to any other Final Fantasy game. SquareEnix only tags the name on the new RPG developed to replace the last. None of these games happen on the same world even.
Anyway, WoW continued the storyline that players have been working on since "Warcraft: Orcs and Humans" all the way through "Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne". The characters and situations have not changed, rather YOU are now a part of the story, able to fight these bosses that you had once had to build massive armies to take down. Anyway, that was the initial draw to the game. The game quickly escalated in popularity and the addition of things such as the Arena, PvP Battlegrounds, Raid Instances, World Bosses all added to the appeal that there was more to this world than killing random zebras for their hooves...even if for some reason they didn't have any when you looted them.
Nowadays, WoW attracts people because of its popularity and the new expansions. FFXI is dying off because of the upcoming FFXIV (which looks AMAZING). The new additions are making the hardcore Blizzard crowd feel betrayed and...yeah... WoW WAS good back when it first came out. Now? It's just meh. I would still say it is the best MMORPG out there currently because of all the feedback that Blizzard gets due to its over 11 million strong audience, they have learned to make an MMO that people want to play. They quickly learn what bugs are in the game and move to fix stuff. Blizzard's consistent attention to keep their current audience is the reason why it is as good as it is. But ultimately, Blizzard goes for the sales. They don't really care about physical sales of the game, its the subscriptions that get them money. This is why they don't care about losing their initial audience...as long as it sells, if the people are asking for it, give it to them. As long as it will keep them paying to play.
/end rant
...I can go way more into detail about WoW and Halo, but I'll stop there. Hell, I don't think I even need to touch on Halo.
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If you are saying that, why not add in TF2. It was by far not the first to utilize the multi-class FPS system and it was definitely not the first to be implemented so well. I would say that SoF2 for multiplayer was far better than TF2. Halo falls into this category as well. Due to its sci-fi storyline and MEMORABLE HERO, it became immensely popular.
Difference is, TF2 can be hours of mindless fun... when done with friends. I own TF2, but I can't pub it at all. I'm fucking bored in it without my friends playing it, and they're sadly all playing MW2 or L4D2 now. They're *SUPPOSED* to be playing UT3, but without any players there, that game's effectively dead, too...
As for Halo, I'll agree that it had a good story and a memorable hero. More importantly, it was the first FPS to be really done successfully on a console. I suppose I should clarify my stance on Halo: I like the game, but the fanboys... ugh. That's the sort of pratfall L4D has as well, to an extent. "ZOMG CO-OP!!!" Co-Op has been around since Doom. It's not new. Granted, before L4D, co-op had died off in favor of deathmatch/versus modes, but still... it's not this revolutionary concept.
Since I mentioned it, MW also has the same deal. My friends conned me into paying about $40 for COD4, and they played it for only a handful of months because L4D was growing on them, and eventually won them over. In COD4, I now basically play on a knives-only server as a result, and I'm not paying $50 for MW2. (I wouldn't mind playing it... but hell if I'm buying it at that price.)
But quite simply, Outbreak was the predecessor to L4D and L4D went and improved on much of what made Outbreak so crappy. However, they did remove some of the stuff that gave Outbreak its flair, like the character abilities. One thing I did find lols about Outbreak was once someone got infected and their timer started, you NEVER went and got the cure because it was always in an out of the way location. Your teammate would turn into a zombie right in the middle of the party, so when you got infected, everyone just killed you right there and let you respawn as a zombie elsewhere.
Am I saying that L4D was an amazing game? It was a fun game, but as far as a shooter goes, there are definitely better titles. Counterstrike is boring stuff as well.
To me, this would have made L4D more interesting, honestly - a blend of its usual and versus modes. Granted, L4D did a lot of really nice things, but L4D2 made it seem like they just cash cowed it in a way. If I see L4D3 within the next year, I'm really going to begin disliking Valve. I want HL2 Ep3 already... but on the up side, at least we'll get Portal 2, and Portal is fucking godly.
Counterstrike... my main problem with it (as those on IRC will remember) is that when I play a FPS, I really want to kill people, not just sit around and wait. I think a system like TF2 is rather balanced - you're punished for dying, but you're also not out of the action for upwards of 3-5 minutes at a time. Now, I know a lot of people like it, and if they do, more power to them, but to me, I wind up being bored with my thumb up my ass when I get killed, so I don't even bother playing it. The sole reason it's installed is because GMod 10 can use its assets, and it's always fun to screw around in GMod.
Now, WoW is something different. MMOs did exist before WoW (Runescape, for example), but it was WoW that brought a new realm to the MMO world. WoW was not the first to incorporate a full 3D environment, nor the quest system or different abilities or character traits/abilities. Nor was it the first to take all of those and put it on a scale as massive and immerse as it was (FFXI).
What differed from WoW and FF-XI would be the story. Sure in FF-XI you had recognizable character classes, but none of the Final Fantasy games (FF X-2 does not exist) have any real connection to any other Final Fantasy game. SquareEnix only tags the name on the new RPG developed to replace the last. None of these games happen on the same world even.
Anyway, WoW continued the storyline that players have been working on since "Warcraft: Orcs and Humans" all the way through "Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne". The characters and situations have not changed, rather YOU are now a part of the story, able to fight these bosses that you had once had to build massive armies to take down. Anyway, that was the initial draw to the game. The game quickly escalated in popularity and the addition of things such as the Arena, PvP Battlegrounds, Raid Instances, World Bosses all added to the appeal that there was more to this world than killing random zebras for their hooves...even if for some reason they didn't have any when you looted them.
Nowadays, WoW attracts people because of its popularity and the new expansions. FFXI is dying off because of the upcoming FFXIV (which looks AMAZING). The new additions are making the hardcore Blizzard crowd feel betrayed and...yeah... WoW WAS good back when it first came out. Now? It's just meh. I would still say it is the best MMORPG out there currently because of all the feedback that Blizzard gets due to its over 11 million strong audience, they have learned to make an MMO that people want to play. They quickly learn what bugs are in the game and move to fix stuff. Blizzard's consistent attention to keep their current audience is the reason why it is as good as it is. But ultimately, Blizzard goes for the sales. They don't really care about physical sales of the game, its the subscriptions that get them money. This is why they don't care about losing their initial audience...as long as it sells, if the people are asking for it, give it to them. As long as it will keep them paying to play.
/end rant
...I can go way more into detail about WoW and Halo, but I'll stop there. Hell, I don't think I even need to touch on Halo.
WoW is a fairly solid, if somewhat average MMO to me. What really draws it in is its backstory and history among its fanbase plus the strength of the Blizzard name - every Blizzard title is virtually a guaranteed seller, and to be honest... I'm beginning to almost want them to make a stinker to see if they could get away with it. I'm sure there are people who will buy damn near anything if they know Blizzard made it.
To me what's really sad is that innovative titles are more often than not completely overlooked. Last summer there was a FPS released called Section 8; myself and another guy reviewed it for a site I work for. (http://www.beyondunreal.com/articles/bu-reviews-section-8/) I had such a blast playing this game. It was such a revolutionary change from the typical FPS model that I was really, truly hoping it would take off. It never did, partially due to having a publisher known for putting out fairly cheap games, and partially because it was a fairly complex FPS to play. Truth be told, I see this as one of the possible two future paths of the FPS genre, the other being the FPS/RPG hybrid (a la Borderlands, another game I reviewed with a few other guys. (http://www.beyondunreal.com/articles/bu-reviews-borderlands/?page=3)) Either of them are very interesting, but frankly, I'm sick of the dearth of realism shooters. I love my sci-fi style. I'm not saying it can't evolve along this way without being Sci-fi, but it's like all the innovation is gone nowadays. Anyone can make a realism shooter; it takes real innovation to try to change things up.
I've ranted long enough, myself. I now present the tl;dr version for those of you who didn't read the above:
Oftentimes, people let their feelings about a game get in the way of subjectively critiquing said game. It's very easy to make a well-done, balanced game, but we're no longer rewarding on real innovation anymore, and that's worrying me, because eventually we will get sick of "Generic WW2 shooter #78" and "Modern Combat shooter #43." We're gonna need something new, and without that, we all lose in the long run.
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as a TF2 fanboy i really recommend the game, the characters are funny and it's fairly balanced (not so balanced anymore with all those class updates)
the only problem is trying to find a server where people play seriously, most of the time you bump into an achievement server or bullshit like that, and other times, people care about getting the most kills, without any effort
very few times i got on a team that worked together in order to win a match, and i'm sure that's the most satisfying experience you can get from this game, the feeling of playing with a team to achieve victory, and when that happens in the game, it's 120% sure that the same team will win the next match
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24 player servers are where you'll find the meat of TF2. People who are tired of nocrits, instant respawn, mindlessly modified servers.
Also, FaN scout runs ctf_doublecross. Runs it ragged.
~M
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Also, FaN scout runs ctf_doublecross. Runs it ragged.
scout is my least favourite class, i only really use it for ctf_2fort
and yeah, i hate FaN, it can take whole life at point-blank range, they should nerf it like they did it with pyro (top favourite class)
did you also noticed how the hitbox for the Huntsman is fucked up? it's like you see an arrow, yeah, but the engine count it as A TRAIN COMING FULL SPEED AHEAD ON YOU
i should start to play it seriously again, i still don't have a single hat :emo:
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What, you can duck in the path of an incoming huntsman arrow and it'll hit you even if you swear it should have flew above your head?
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What, you can duck in the path of an incoming huntsman arrow and it'll hit you even if you swear it should have flew above your head?
basically yeah; there's no need to aim
you get hit on the shoulder = headshot
you get hit above the head = headshot
you get hit below the head = headshot
shoot aimessly without looking = headshot, or damage from 50% to 90%
flaming arrow with crit = bodykill on any class, even a buffed heavy can die with one hit
Valve have done 120 and plus updates, and still they didn't fixed the huntsman hitbox
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It's kind of like the first Unreal Tournament, where the top third of the model was considered the "head." Any hit from essentially shoulders on up would count as a headshot.
However, at least it was consistent.
Ironically, compared to TF2, crouching used a completely different collision cylinder where it was IMPOSSIBLE to be shot in the head. They changed this as of UT2003.
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I don't even use FaN for the damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OO7M4Y4-3Y
Reaching back to the main topic, I recently tried reinstalling Oblivion. Mouse and keyboard input failed out after a few minutes.
Some research reveals that this is related to AUDIO CODECS? Installing old games makes me sad some days.
~M
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Huh. Can't say I've ever had that problem. I did have a problem in Fallout 3 where the audio stuttered on the radio stations when I upgraded to Vista. Of course, Creative didn't feel like making Vista-compatible drivers for my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, so I had to ditch it and buy a ASUS Xonar D1 to fix the music.
It could also be the engine it's on (Gamebryo) is known to be a buggy piece of crap that CTD's whenever the fuck it feels like it.
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Look what I just got :o
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/98/55/73/img00010.jpg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/98/55/73/img00011.jpg)
Lolis...they smile at death :fap:
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/98/55/73/img00012.jpg)
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...I guess "lolis" has entered official vernacular now.
Don't know if I'd want a 360 decked out with that paintjob, but I probably wouldn't mind the game.
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oh god ABP oh god the trolling oh god oh god
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What the hell of a game is that?
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hell yeah you got it Shin, i hope you enjoy it
the disc has the best image with Rosa teasing you like she would say "put me in the console" :fap: :fap: :fap:
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(http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/100118265-3.jpg) (http://www.xfire.com/profile/darkpulse/screenshots/?view#100118265)
Nuff Said.
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108 kills? you're a beast
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silly chuck norris, you don't bring fists and roundhouse kicks to a gun fight
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What the hell of a game is that?
MMO GTA, ripe for trolling.
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108 kills? you're a beast
With knife only. We had a Gentleman's Agreement for that match.
I play on a knives-only server from time to time, so I have a *LOT* of experience knifefighting in COD4.
Needless to say, "a child" wanted me to train him. I was making some sick moves that whole match, stabbing their whole team within five seconds at times.
I really should rip the demo recording I took of that match to an AVI. It was nuts.
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they see me rollin'
they tryin' to catch my 1up
(protip: check my license plate)