Where do you draw the line between zoning and projectile spamming?

[Alfonse]

Personally, I find it difficult to differentiate between the two.

[Nandeyanen]

I consider projectile spamming zoning when it works.

[dakanya]

How is projectile spamming not zoning?

[Curbeh]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

[Rei]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

falco SHL lol! And that is STILL zoning

[Curbeh]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Zoning, yes. But I've seen people do that shit for entire matches lol.

[Alfonse]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

Street Fighter, too.

[MRHAN]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

falco SHL lol! And that is STILL zoning

in Melee, its not zoning. you aggro with falcos lazers... in Brawl its zoning cuz falcos game is all camping.

[Curbeh]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

Street Fighter, too.

I can't think of a situation in SF where sitting on the other edge of the stage spamming fireballs helps

[Tonberry]

But I've seen people do that shit for entire matches lol.

My legacy in the smash community http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ8l-XQQ1Yg

More on topic - you can't really be that lame with projectile spam in MBAA.

[MRHAN]

How does projectile spam even work in MB when you can fly over them, shield them, dodge them etc
The only game I can actually thing of where projectile spam might work is... Smash

Street Fighter, too.

I can't think of a situation in SF where sitting on the other edge of the stage spamming fireballs helps

SF2 Turbo it does, have you seen daigos ryu and valle's sagat? THATS ALL THEY DO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68tQ3qNQuRU <--- My evidence

[ShinMasaki]

Hmm...I think the differentiating line is in: casuals vs competitive.

In casual play sitting back and throwing projectiles continuously is looked at poorly because its casual play, you're expected to take losses in casual play to make things fun.

In competitive play it becomes zoning because now your projectile spamming has purpose and meaning behind it.

Distancing and spacing are another thing. If you are mindlessly spamming fireballs across the stage is one thing. When you are firing off fireballs in your opponents face is another thing. If you are close enough that using an alternative attack (that would be considered more effective) would be preferred and yet you are not (read: you are being an idiot), then you are spamming.

[Dark Pulse]

I'd say spam is when you're launching projectiles with no reason whatsoever except to just throw barrages of stuff at the opponent.

If you're flinging them so it forces them into a position or using them as anti-air counters or something, then it becomes zoning.

[LoliSauce]

The whole point of zoning in general is to force the opponent to move in the way you want them to.  You control one zone with massive amounts of projectiles, then they'll feel like it's safer to jump over them to work their way in close, right?  That's when you hit them with an antiair shoryu or whatever.  Zoning at it's most basic.  Projectile spam can be a valid part of zoning.  It basically comes down to how they're using all of their resources.  Shin basically nailed it in his last couple of sentences.

[mizuki]

This is a terrible topic, and I won't respond to it 'til it reaches 3 pages.

[meinkampfychair]

I can't think of a situation in SF where sitting on the other edge of the stage spamming fireballs helps

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[Irysa]

when people are actually anti airing you when you jumpin over it

[PHauxE]

scrub mentality vs pro.  Also http://www.meltybread.com/forums/melty-blood-auditorium/why-is-there-so-much-hate-for-nero/  

[woof]

I Dont Like Street Fighter, Too Many Fire Balls

[ShardZ]

I'm just wondering where to draw the line between stupid things that shouldn't exist and this thread.  Thinking there just isn't one.

[Renaisknight]

SONIC BOOM~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNf7Awi5WSE

[mizuki]

stop posting you farts

[YubelPhoenix]

I Dont Like Street Fighter, Too Many Fire Balls

I agree with u there. too many damn fireballs. Could a match exist with a hadoken or tiger shot not being fired?

[Rei]

I Dont Like Street Fighter, Too Many Fire Balls

I agree with u there. too many damn fireballs. Could a match exist with a hadoken or tiger shot not being fired?

Rufus vs E-Honda lets go.

[F9|Chibi]

Don't play me.