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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2010, 04:47:15 PM »
It's because you get backturn knockdown. When backturned, you can always cross up.
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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2011, 10:02:20 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_THSdAUZJuE#t=10m40s

OK, how the heck do you get crossup post Momiji?!  ???

I guess it has something to do with the positioning 5B gives you but I can't replicate it.  :-\
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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2011, 10:24:55 AM »
well if anything i think it would be related to ries' slow wakeup time but i dunno really
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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2011, 01:19:44 AM »
so I'm not 100% sure if what I'm about to describe is at all relevant/worthwhile/possible, so apologies in advance if I waste your time.

using variant 2a starter momji loop that does about 5518 dmg on v.sion for reference.

236C psuedo-reset/guardbreak:
...2 reps momiji > 4C > *slight delay* 5A > 5C > 236C..
guard break with 5C > 623B > 4C > 2C [623B or 5BB aerial]

after the wall bounce, they are forced to respond to the 236C which if blocked leaves them in the air long enough for you to recover and break their guard with air-unblockable 5C. different things happen depending on opponents tech choice before super, so for convenience I outlined what I've found out. (note that when the opponent chooses not block the super, you omit the 5C guard break and go straight into 623b or w/e specified)

neutral tech: the anticipated situation
block+guardbreak = 5291 + 4295
no block =  5291 + 4095/???
[when anticipating a no block you can omit the 5C before the super for full combo reset]
* if timed correctly opponent cannot ex shield the super

forward tech: weird stuff
block+guard break = 5048 + 4157
[must omit 5A>5C for guardbreak to be possible; on some characters (w.len for example) I've experienced situations where the followup 5C faces the wrong direction. this is solved by walking back slightly before doing the 5C guardbreak.]
no block = 5291 + 2468
[must confirm super hit straight into aerial combo; works on all characters I've tested except that you must omit 5C before super for wara]

back tech: nothing unusual
block+guard break = 5291 + 4104
no block  1) 4C>5A>5C for easy aerial route
               2) omit 5C for 623B route

no tech: free full combo reset for stupid dmg
* opponent cannot ex shield or block
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 01:28:20 AM by designerhyo »

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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2011, 03:52:39 AM »
First of all, I am very curious how you get 5.5k on Vsion starting from 2a. :mystery:

The guardbreak setup works well and all, but it fails if they do not tech. After 2 reps of Momiji the 5C wallslams them, making them invincible until they tech because of the 3 wallslam rule.
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Re: H-V Akiha Strategy/Tactics Thread
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2011, 04:26:40 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_THSdAUZJuE#t=10m40s

OK, how the heck do you get crossup post Momiji?!  ???

I guess it has something to do with the positioning 5B gives you but I can't replicate it.  :-\

It's possible that Ries just moved forward on wake up after V.Akiha super jumped.