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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2012, 09:52:43 PM »
They're for H, but for the most part they work for C, too.  Just leave out any 5A6AA chains.  The meat of the combo is 2C 214B > 6C sjc j.A j.6B j.B(1) j.C sdj (very slight delay) j.B(1) j.C j.22D > j.A j.C air throw which works for both moons.

It's pretty convenient actually.  You can play both C and H with the same damn combos and just switch according to which one's mechanics and special move properties are more useful in a given matchup.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 09:55:32 PM by SparklyDemonLord »

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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2012, 10:00:57 PM »
H is way more fun.
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2012, 07:52:52 PM »
Effective and easy combos for Crescent Moon Hime:
Combo 1
Just delay before you hit the first j.c
2a 5b 2b 2c 5c 236a 9(jump cancel) delay j.c j.c 22d j.a j.c airtrow
4362 damage on V.Sion

If you reach the corner and delayed the 236a jump cancel correctly, you are able to input j.6c before the airtrow, so the combo should be like this:
2a 5b 2b 2c 5c 236a 9(jump cancel) delay j.c j.c 22d j.a j.c j.6b airtrow
Deals 4552 damage on V.Sion

Combo 2
This combo is a little bit different, you need to input 6c soon after 214b animation then hold 8 to superjump cancel. If you are too close to the enemy Hime will go to other side of the screen unless you are in the corner, to avoid this you need to start the combo with 2aa
2a 5b 2b 5c 2c 214b 6c sj j.c j.c 22d j.a j.c airtrow
Deals 4567 damage on V.Sion

You can also input j.6b before airtrow if you are on the corner, but it's harder to do then Combo 1
2a 5b 2b 5c 2c 214b 6c sj j.c j.c 22d j.a j.c j.6b airtrow
Deals 4745 damage on V.Sion

Combo 3
The easiest of all. 6c launcher
You can't do j.6b on this combo
2a 5b 2b 5c 2c 6c 8(superjump) j.b(2 hits) j.c j.b(1 hit) j.c 22d j.a j.c airtrow
Deals 4400 damage on V.Sion

j.236c Extender:
If you have 100% meter, you can extend the combos above by using j.236c after airtrow for some extra damage and a chance to punish the enemy if they ground tech(using 5b), if they not tech you can perform an okizeme

Using on combo 1:
Deals 5222 damage with j.6b on V.Sion
Deals 5095 damage without j.6b V.Sion

Using on combo 2:
Deals 5352 damage with  j.6b on V.Sion
Deals 5237 damage without j.6b on V.Sion

Using on combo 3
Deals 5070 on V.Sion(cannot do it with j.6b)


j.63214c extender
Just input j.63214c after the last j.c of any combos above, you need 150% meter. Note you cannot do it if you input j.6b or Airtrow
After this extender you have a few options:

Combo!(Really not recomended, unless you like fancy stuff. If you want damage just do 236c to spend 100% meter instead of 150%)
Combo 1, 2 or 3 + 63214c land dash 2c 214b j.b j.c j.c 22d j.a j.c airtrow

Okizeme!
Combo 1, 2 or 3 + 63214c land dash 2c 22a(2 lights) 22d airdash j.b or j.c
Nice use of Hikari

Combo 1, 2 or 3 + 63214c land dash 2c 22d 214a land 5c or 2c 214a(activate wind)
Wind mine oki

Combo 1, 2 or 3 + 63214c land dash 2c delay(until enemy start waking up) 214b
214b wind will do only 1 hit


You can do much more stuff, just use your imagination =^.^=
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2012, 10:01:26 AM »
PS. Real Hipster Hime players do 5B2C5CA6AA2C236Aj.6[B]22DACdj.Cdj.236C.

j.6[B] for life. Extra effort for mad style.

PPS. Do a real combo instead, though.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 10:26:35 AM by Sashi »
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C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2012, 03:04:04 AM »
(j.6B j.22D j.2A+B) x n

No problem. I was playing HIGH tier moon, apparently.
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(j.6B j.22D j.2A+B) x n

How many reps?

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j.236C j.22D (j.6B j.2A+B) x infinity, of course.
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Anyone figured out what 214c ex wind is good for?

Unlike what's been said before. It's not safe when blocked on ground. The startup seems pretty unreliable for a reversal (Himes have 623's which are good).

Maybe catching airtechs, but the wind takes a while before it extends all the way up.
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Useless as far as I can tell. You can end the game winning combo with them if you're high enough to catch them with j.6B j.214C and you wanna be flashy and a douche. If it doesn't kill (it does no damage), they'll tech and do 5k to you as you fall.
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2013, 05:49:17 PM »
Haven't seen this specific variation here so I'll post it. Compared to the other BNBs it's fairly easy, stable and does decent damage:

2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 236A j.6B (slight delay) B(1) C sdj (slight delay) j.B(1)C fly j.AC AT - 4423 on VSion

I like the windmines for the swag tho
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2013, 05:53:46 AM »
Ok, so... flying in combos leaves you too high to go for oki. You get to do stuff like meaty j.6[B}, j.236, j.214b or airdash j.CB while falling, but these are rather escapable. So what Ive seen some players do is cut the combos short not going into fly, and then dash 2a on oki.

How do you guys feel about that? Do you think its worth doing the fly  portion of the combo? Or doing EX pillar to play tech/no tech but get oki? Do you rather save meter for wallbounce kick or AD ender? Gimme your thoughts on this.

I usually always go for fly combos then immediatly 236a on landing to try to keep them honest but that has its faults too.
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2015, 08:35:29 AM »
tfw you realize the last two post on this thread are also yours...

Ok, I guess nobody cares but I did a video talking about her basic stuff. There are captions if my voice annoys you or w/e. There should be a second part sometime soon, the H-Hime fever is long lasting apparently.

http://youtu.be/dshK_7jS0ys
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2015, 10:02:34 AM »
[01:08] <Komidol> that marisa cosplayer that took my registration was sexy
[15:24] <Rokunaya> i've actually reached the point where some voice actors sound familiar in animes
[22:40] <bellreisa> i'm an insane murderer who is overwhelmed by nihilism but that's ok cause i'm in love

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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2015, 10:26:13 AM »
I was playing a guy just a few days ago and I was getting counterhit w/ j.A on what seemed to be the tip of 3C. If there isnt a hurtbox there, idk how I was getting hit but ok. Thanks for the feedback, I'll revise that.
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2015, 12:53:41 PM »
Look at the last pic again, I realized it looks slightly ambiguous for some of the hitboxes near the top

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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2015, 01:05:29 PM »
I was curious too, so I went and tested it. The only way you are getting CH out of that move is if you got hit during start-up. Its active before the yellow comes out. It's no longer active, and the yellow is still our during recovery, but you aren't CH for being hit out of recovery. I doubt that there is an aerial that is disjointed below enough to beat that.

Edit: Just Ries BEj.C will beat it clean. Wara j.C and H-Mech j.B will beat it with very specific spacing (ie. Right above, almost behind Hime).
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2015, 02:20:35 PM »
The guide was pretty good overall, just wanted to add that H-Hime is the only H-moon character that can cancel 5a6aa into normals on block.  Hime also cannot cancel 2a on whiff into any normals, so you need to use 5a to OS backdashes.  However, because you can't cancel 2a into normals on whiff, 2a 2e gives you 2a(whiff) dodge.  This allows you to to OS heat in another way and if they get hit/block the 2a it gives 2ab. 
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[15:24] <Rokunaya> i've actually reached the point where some voice actors sound familiar in animes
[22:40] <bellreisa> i'm an insane murderer who is overwhelmed by nihilism but that's ok cause i'm in love

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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2015, 03:12:22 PM »
I guess I have to go easy on the drugs from now on.

Yeah, I forgot to talk about dial A at all, as I forgot to talk about how fly drains meter too. I'll try to squeeze those into the next video, and hopefully avoid giving any false info while on it.
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Re: C and H Archetype talk (aka being a hipster for not wanting to play F)
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2015, 01:36:57 AM »
Just some stuff I came up with (or unconciously stole)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVsBToOXU30
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