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Atlas Academy => Melty Blood: Current Code => Archetype: Earth => : LoliSauce August 18, 2009, 12:07:50 AM

When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LoliSauce August 18, 2009, 12:07:50 AM
Seems like it's the first time they've actually made a potentially bullshit level boss character as playable.  Not sure how I feel about that, even though I'm hype to see her in action.

Seriously though, I never expected another character to be added.  lol
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: DivineArc August 18, 2009, 12:16:39 AM
YES FIRST POST BESIDES THE LOLI BANDIT, IM GONNA MAIN THAT CHAR :fap: :fap: :fap: Along with all 3 Arcs and H-Warc!!
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LoliSauce August 18, 2009, 12:51:58 AM
YES FIRST POST BESIDES THE LOLI BANDIT, IM GONNA MAIN THAT CHAR :fap: :fap: :fap: Along with all 3 Arcs and H-Warc!!
lol, loli bandit.

Also, I only wanna play H Warc to do her EX Rugal.  And by "along with all 3 Arcs" do you mean Arc, Warc, and...neco?

Anyway, if super boss type Earth is in fact super boss bullshit, she'll prolly be banned from serious play.
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: Van_Artic August 18, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
i just hope she's not Arcueid sprites with different moves, that would be disappointing
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: LoliSauce August 18, 2009, 12:55:41 AM
i just hope she's not Arcueid sprites with different moves, that would be disappointing
Well, from the screens so far, I would guess that she only changes into her former glory during EXs, ADs and LA. 
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Exciel August 18, 2009, 02:02:13 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2q9w1sn.png)

Take note of Warachia's moon style.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Van_Artic August 18, 2009, 02:42:21 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2q9w1sn.png)

Take note of Warachia's moon style.
wat

oh god, do they added a FOURTH style (new moon) for all characters as well?

if it's that so, i'm shitting bricks again
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: NoNo August 18, 2009, 03:30:26 AM
Are we sure it's not a hoax ?
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: LivingShadow August 18, 2009, 05:43:51 AM
If they added a fourth style I'm sure there's going to be some interesting possibilities.
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: Masu August 18, 2009, 07:12:15 AM
Holy fuck a 4th style? 
HRRRRRGH :fap:
Hopefully it isnt exclusive to some chars only.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Masu August 18, 2009, 07:29:50 AM
Sup Masu, just performing an internet assault on you.
Yay. Its a Darcius  :bleh:
did YOU order AA?
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Masu August 18, 2009, 07:54:53 AM
Yeah, Ofcourse I did.


HAHAHAHAHAHA
Then you are winner. My copy says it will be here tomorrow at 8 am as usual :p then i can FINALLY be roa without using a damn Arcade stick! Though now i REAALLLYYY wanna see how ATM (Arch Type Moon lol) will fight.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Dartz August 18, 2009, 09:10:54 AM
so, to fight agains her you got to met some requirements is arcade mode here are some more scans:

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt195/James_marcus/1250609479405.jpg)

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt195/James_marcus/1250609553915.jpg)

beautiful isn´t? i was thinking they might add another form of Arcueid, but i never thought it could actually happen.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: DivineArc August 18, 2009, 09:24:46 AM
YES FIRST POST BESIDES THE LOLI BANDIT, IM GONNA MAIN THAT CHAR :fap: :fap: :fap: Along with all 3 Arcs and H-Warc!!
lol, loli bandit.

Also, I only wanna play H Warc to do her EX Rugal.  And by "along with all 3 Arcs" do you mean Arc, Warc, and...neco?

Anyway, if super boss type Earth is in fact super boss bullshit, she'll prolly be banned from serious play.
!!! Great minds think alike because thats why I wanted to play H-Warc lol. And by all I three Arcs I meant all 3 moons of Normal Arcueid and H-Warc only!!!
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LoliSauce August 18, 2009, 10:26:12 AM
I'm pretty sure this is a boss only special thing.  As in, she doesn't have normal moon styles, and this is their way to just give her one without making the player feel jipped.  I highly, HIGHLY doubt that there's a fourth moon style for all characters.  That would be an insane amount of work, and they just haven't spent that much time going between arcade and console.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Masu August 18, 2009, 11:00:08 AM
I'm pretty sure this is a boss only special thing.  As in, she doesn't have normal moon styles, and this is their way to just give her one without making the player feel jipped.  I highly, HIGHLY doubt that there's a fourth moon style for all characters.  That would be an insane amount of work, and they just haven't spent that much time going between arcade and console.

Why did warachia have her style then?
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Van_Artic August 18, 2009, 01:33:14 PM
maybe..

1) the empty moon styles applies for all characters ONLY when one of the 2 players is Archetype Earth

or

2) it IS a "new" moon style, but mainly it's a... mixture of C-H-F
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Dartz August 18, 2009, 04:04:23 PM
good thing they added a secret boss, since Dust of Osiris was indeed very weak compared to the other big bosses "Giant Akiha" and "Neco-Black Chaos 666", i hope they keep the characters like Ryougi if they make a PC version someday, anyone know if she got her own stage or if is another edit of the milenium castle?
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: Erkz August 18, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
About the new moon style.

According to the chinese websites I nabbed some screenshots from, it's called "Lunar Eclipse" style. They say that it's basically just Crescent Moon with Auto-Heat* and is reserved for bosses only; Archetype, Wara, G.Akiha, etc.

* - At least I think it was Auto-Heat. It's either that or Auto-Counter though.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Tempered August 18, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
good thing they added a secret boss, since Dust of Osiris was indeed very weak compared to the other big bosses "Giant Akiha" and "Neco-Black Chaos 666", i hope they keep the characters like Ryougi if they make a PC version someday, anyone know if she got her own stage or if is another edit of the milenium castle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5stkQEVi6s this will answer all your questions.
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: Van_Artic August 19, 2009, 08:06:37 AM
the Eclipse Style exist, i'll try to make a screenshot later
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: Draku August 19, 2009, 11:05:41 AM
Anyone figure out how to unlock her yet?
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: ShinShom August 19, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
I just iunlocked her... I think its like, after unloackling everything (cinematics and characters), beat the game with Ryougi.... and... well... thats what I did... eating the game at the hardest level... nothign special I guess...

She looks exatly like normal arceuid XD... only really faster and with the Eclipse Style. she looks kinda like the re-act version.... but not 100%..... I am trying her yet XD

Edit: Jesus Christ, this girl is a beast XD.... teleport is a dam upgrade of warcs..... every EX move shows the Princess forme behind Arcueid.... mmm... Last Arc Kills instantly.... she has the blood rings from Warc..... well.... only that stuff I guess... and she is really fast and damaging.... XD
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LoliSauce August 19, 2009, 10:48:04 PM
Sounds pretty dumb. 
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Van_Artic August 20, 2009, 12:01:35 AM
so it's only a powered up arcueid, mmmmhhh :|
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LoliSauce August 20, 2009, 12:23:58 AM
so it's only a powered up arcueid, mmmmhhh :|
More like Arc finally getting serious and using full power.

She's almost certainly going to be banned from tourney play.
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: Dragonthorn August 20, 2009, 12:39:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofAK1qZz87E

Kind of a letdown. Oh well XD.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: ShinShom August 20, 2009, 04:26:32 AM
in a way its funny cause everything is so fast and powerfull... but yeah.; it was a worst idea then Seifuku Akiha.... oh well.... it will be baned anyway....
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Exciel August 20, 2009, 07:31:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3qXoXnYPo&feature=channel_page


Using Crescent Mode for AT:E. I tested this and it indeed does work, though by coincidence I was practicing with AT:E right before choosing Random over and over so I'll have to test it next time I play whether or not you need to do that step. Anyway once it lands on her on Random she'll be selected in Crescent instead of Eclipse. Her moveset is pretty much C-Arc's, just a lot sillier looking.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Van_Artic August 20, 2009, 10:03:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC3qXoXnYPo&feature=channel_page


Using Crescent Mode for AT:E. I tested this and it indeed does work, though by coincidence I was practicing with AT:E right before choosing Random over and over so I'll have to test it next time I play whether or not you need to do that step. Anyway once it lands on her on Random she'll be selected in Crescent instead of Eclipse. Her moveset is pretty much C-Arc's, just a lot sillier looking.
:psyduck:

archetype is now officially labeled as broken; well she is broken to begin with, but this is more like it :psyduck:
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: DarkShadow August 21, 2009, 11:47:13 AM
So uh, apparently I don't have Archetype: Earth unlocked by beating all arcades(thus unlocking every dialogue). This means my efforts were for nothing? Or is there really another way instead of doing Boss Rush without losing a round?
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: Legendary Blue Shirt August 21, 2009, 01:08:24 PM
Apparently failing boss rush mode and crying in the corner for 24 hours seems to work.  :mystery:

http://www.justnopoint.com/lbends/junk/BISLPM-55184_MELTY_BLOOD_Actress_Again_(83BB1653).max
Here's a save file if you give up.  There's a tool called mymc that can add this to your pcsx2 memory card.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Exciel August 21, 2009, 10:26:44 PM
Tell me to stop playing this character gaiz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WRKWhKg2Ak&fmt=18

Found a somewhat infinite loop and is rather easy to do, though I end up screwing up sooner or later anyway. 2C 214D 2B 2C etc. Works best in corner.

Edit: dis character iz borken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urbk6OrrIR4
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: Press August 21, 2009, 10:31:09 PM
Not an infinite just one long loop. Actress Again has a gravity system, so the more hits you have on them, the faster they start falling. Kinda like HnK except without the broke basketball bounce.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Exciel August 21, 2009, 10:46:09 PM
Ah, I wasn't aware the gravity affects that as well, thanks for informing me.
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: Van_Artic August 22, 2009, 04:34:32 AM
i played her, she's broken as hell (SNK style), but damn awesome

2A 2B 2C 5C 5B j.abc j.abc 2C

around 3.5/4k dmg
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: Bellarc August 22, 2009, 01:59:48 PM
i played her, she's broken as hell (SNK style), but damn awesome
she's extremely broken but i love her so much. its all a giant rape with her
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Alt August 23, 2009, 10:54:52 PM
Is it actually broken? It seems like that corner "infinite" can only do up to average B&B damage before putting the opponent in a state where he can burst. The last arc hitting for 100% life is nasty but usually when someone lands a last arc it means the round anyway. Overall, Archetype seems to move fast and do a fair amount of damage but, though I haven't unlocked it to test for myself, I haven't seen anything so far that necessarily makes it indisputably stronger than every other character by a significant margin.
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: Press August 23, 2009, 11:09:18 PM
Is it actually broken? It seems like that corner "infinite" can only do up to average B&B damage before putting the opponent in a state where he can burst. The last arc hitting for 100% life is nasty but usually when someone lands a last arc it means the round anyway. Overall, Archetype seems to move fast and do a fair amount of damage but, though I haven't unlocked it to test for myself, I haven't seen anything so far that necessarily makes it indisputably stronger than every other character by a significant margin.

Uhhh does constant meter gaining and boss defense modifiers not sound broke to you?
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Alt August 23, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Is it actually broken? It seems like that corner "infinite" can only do up to average B&B damage before putting the opponent in a state where he can burst. The last arc hitting for 100% life is nasty but usually when someone lands a last arc it means the round anyway. Overall, Archetype seems to move fast and do a fair amount of damage but, though I haven't unlocked it to test for myself, I haven't seen anything so far that necessarily makes it indisputably stronger than every other character by a significant margin.

Uhhh does constant meter gaining and boss defense modifiers not sound broke to you?

Wasn't aware of either of those. That does sound pretty powerful, and after reading http://mbaa.mizuumi.net/index.php/Archetype:_Earth (http://mbaa.mizuumi.net/index.php/Archetype:_Earth) I'm inclined to think overpowered, but does anyone have actual match experience fighting with/against Archetype? The only videos I've seen have been people against the CPU.
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: Press August 23, 2009, 11:17:40 PM
I've had match experience against Archetype. So I know how to play F-Len pretty well, the other guy was pretty new to the game. I lost pretty harsh. Random 5aa's did about 1k dmg and supers did 3.5k at least. Her I think it was 236C gaurd broke me everytime.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Exciel August 24, 2009, 02:28:50 PM
All her normals (especially 5B) rape guard meter, 236A/B take around half, and 236C destroys it all.
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: MissedFRC August 25, 2009, 05:16:37 AM
Her ADs are unblockable rofl
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: Enacra August 25, 2009, 02:37:49 PM
Only her AAD is unblockable.
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: ShinShom August 26, 2009, 07:32:46 PM
2B, 5C, 214A, repeat

lol...
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: Tempered August 26, 2009, 08:43:51 PM
2abc [22a 5ab]xn
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: LordPangTong August 29, 2009, 08:41:52 AM
I've had match experience against Archetype. So I know how to play F-Len pretty well, the other guy was pretty new to the game. I lost pretty harsh. Random 5aa's did about 1k dmg and supers did 3.5k at least. Her I think it was 236C gaurd broke me everytime.

I've run into the same circumstance. I was playing around with my friend for a couple hours, and after she started using Archetype Earth, she got a ton of wins. Archetype is definitely a good noob character if you're facing someone no so good at the game, but you still want a challenge. All of her normals do good guard bar damage, are safe on block, and are FULL of clash frames. (Especially 5B/2C) She is fully invincible during her 236A/B/C, and as speculated, 236C depletes a full guard bar on block. Her throw causes either an untechable bounce, or an untechable wallslam. Her 421C puts you behind and above your opponent. The worst, most broken thing about her is... She can circuit spark any time she wants.
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: ಠ_ಠ Dizzynecro August 29, 2009, 11:57:50 AM
LOL infinate spark, gg.
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: MissedFRC August 29, 2009, 12:57:18 PM
Only her AAD is unblockable.

Good enough! She gets meter so fast anyways.


 :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke: :slowpoke:
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: ShinShom August 30, 2009, 04:48:24 AM
I've had match experience against Archetype. So I know how to play F-Len pretty well, the other guy was pretty new to the game. I lost pretty harsh. Random 5aa's did about 1k dmg and supers did 3.5k at least. Her I think it was 236C gaurd broke me everytime.

I've run into the same circumstance. I was playing around with my friend for a couple hours, and after she started using Archetype Earth, she got a ton of wins. Archetype is definitely a good noob character if you're facing someone no so good at the game, but you still want a challenge. All of her normals do good guard bar damage, are safe on block, and are FULL of clash frames. (Especially 5B/2C) She is fully invincible during her 236A/B/C, and as speculated, 236C depletes a full guard bar on block. Her throw causes either an untechable bounce, or an untechable wallslam. Her 421C puts you behind and above your opponent. The worst, most broken thing about her is... She can circuit spark any time she wants.

and with that 2 already found out infinites.... I mean... if a good player uses her, I dont see any viable way to beat him lol...
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: Fui August 30, 2009, 09:53:48 PM
It's like I'm really playing MUGEN
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: shirayukimizore September 24, 2009, 05:40:16 AM
I've had match experience against Archetype. So I know how to play F-Len pretty well, the other guy was pretty new to the game. I lost pretty harsh. Random 5aa's did about 1k dmg and supers did 3.5k at least. Her I think it was 236C gaurd broke me everytime.

I've run into the same circumstance. I was playing around with my friend for a couple hours, and after she started using Archetype Earth, she got a ton of wins. Archetype is definitely a good noob character if you're facing someone no so good at the game, but you still want a challenge. All of her normals do good guard bar damage, are safe on block, and are FULL of clash frames. (Especially 5B/2C) She is fully invincible during her 236A/B/C, and as speculated, 236C depletes a full guard bar on block. Her throw causes either an untechable bounce, or an untechable wallslam. Her 421C puts you behind and above your opponent. The worst, most broken thing about her is... She can circuit spark any time she wants.
you mean she can break your combo anytime she wants? :psyduck:

it's better to use Warc then spam the j.214 a or b

: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Azrel October 20, 2009, 03:16:30 PM
Ok, when I play as Archtype, she only has Eclipse style as her fighting style, but she has neither C, F or H styles!  :-[ too bad, but she's pretty nice character, her damage is epicly huge especially her Arc finishes  :blah:
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: academico April 20, 2010, 09:16:51 PM
Holy fuck a 4th style? 
HRRRRRGH :fap:
Hopefully it isnt exclusive to some chars only.

oH my god 4th style  :fap:
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: LivingShadow April 21, 2010, 04:23:31 AM
Ok, when I play as Archtype, she only has Eclipse style as her fighting style, but she has neither C, F or H styles!  :-[ too bad, but she's pretty nice character, her damage is epicly huge especially her Arc finishes  :blah:

She does have a C style, but you can only get to it by getting her on random select. C-Archetype doesn't have a finished sprite set but the attacks look like they could have been kinda cool.
: Re: The Red Moon style secret boss
: Arisato Minato June 24, 2011, 11:13:17 AM
Can anyone told me what she said when she use her AAD and LA?