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« Last Edit: November 13, 2008, 03:59:58 PM by Leon Rose »
woof: like all the stuff i hear from them im like 'thats everything i had t o deal with back when i played'

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2008, 05:12:15 PM »
Thanks for the links. Can't wait to try out Arcueid in MBAA.

EDIT: C-Arc is a beast. With the new special that sucks in when charged, which is TK-able into Airdash pressure, and also having huge crossup opportunity, she's definitely much improved compared to MBAC. Her elbow move can now be linked with other normals into damaging combos which is another big plus point. Only thing that seems to be at disadvantage is the bigger stage, so 2C 5C can't actually bring opponent to corner without invalids. From what I see, she still suffers from kind of low damage, compared with the amount of hits and execution required, the ratio for damage is quite low. But I see new combos! Many more new possibilities with her.

I've seen a vid where a H-Arc did a cool looking corner combo involving a lot of whiffs. Its on nico though, can't remember the link. H-Arc doesn't look too bad but C-Arc looks much more attractive to me at least.

F-Arc feels like an easy character to pick up. Combos are damaging and easy to execute.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2008, 05:51:05 PM »
Shes really fun now compared to her old MBAC incarnation, Once I play the game for myself I'll make a more in depth faq for her but until then happy watching  :bleh:
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 06:03:21 PM »
Sadly her airthrow is now like Warc's. Increased distance upon landing unless in corner. Her pressure game is weakened by that.

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 06:11:30 PM »
Yeah I noticed that to, But hopefully some of her new tools make up for that in the long run, Btw I noticed that 3b combos are possible now thanks to that extra added swipe she does after it.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 04:36:46 AM »
Thanks for the links. Can't wait to try out Arcueid in MBAA.

EDIT: C-Arc is a beast. With the new special that sucks in when charged, which is TK-able into Airdash pressure, and also having huge crossup opportunity, she's definitely much improved compared to MBAC. Her elbow move can now be linked with other normals into damaging combos which is another big plus point. Only thing that seems to be at disadvantage is the bigger stage, so 2C 5C can't actually bring opponent to corner without invalids. From what I see, she still suffers from kind of low damage, compared with the amount of hits and execution required, the ratio for damage is quite low. But I see new combos! Many more new possibilities with her.

I've seen a vid where a H-Arc did a cool looking corner combo involving a lot of whiffs. Its on nico though, can't remember the link. H-Arc doesn't look too bad but C-Arc looks much more attractive to me at least.

F-Arc feels like an easy character to pick up. Combos are damaging and easy to execute.
Yeah I ive noticed from looking at a couple of vids that her(F-Arc) execution isnt that heavy for all the damage she racks up from simple Bnbs, Especially now they have some 2c loop going on with her crouching handwave move that counts up for alot of damage  :slowpoke: but overrall she still looks interesting to me, Just not as much as C and H-Arc. Also Im curious to see what kind of Bnbs H-Arc can come up with since I havent seen any atm. And as for that pulling move she has now I think its pretty  :toot: for people who dont know its coming but I can see people getting use to seeing it coming in the long run if its heavily abused. Not to mention that crossup wave she does in the air now(Kinda reminds me of Akiha's FlameTongue) It seems really good and could really mix people up if used properly. And we cant forget that her 22A,B is a really DP now  :slowpoke: OMGWTF!!! And it could be linked into that aerial wave move whether its on block or on hit, From what Ive seen it looks safe to a certain extent :blah:
« Last Edit: November 14, 2008, 10:25:45 AM by Leon Rose »
woof: like all the stuff i hear from them im like 'thats everything i had t o deal with back when i played'

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 08:44:51 AM »
Mix up that sucking in move with [5B] and its gonna be deadly. Its also TK-able from what I see. Which then allows much more options in the air. Any ideas on how the move is executed? Since almost all of Arcueid's moveset is taken up, I see 41236 or 4214 the remaining movesets not used. 4214 is kinda hard to TK :(

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 10:24:37 AM »
To tell the truth I really dont know but I could ask Akira if he tried her out to tell me since hes played it before alot of us  :V But ya though once I get my hands on the game I'll make a better guide from the things that Ive taken down from videos and things that I'll be able to come up with like 623C~wallslam~pully move~5b,2b,2c,Half Charge 4b etc. But im really curious about this upward slash she does after her 3b, I wonder how do you execute it and if you can add that extra attack onto it does it means you can also rebeat it?  :slowpoke: We can only guess so much at this point unless we get a inside guy to find out for us....

Btw when you said "Sadly her airthrow is now like Warc's. Increased distance upon landing unless in corner. Her pressure game is weakened by that." I thought about it and maybe from middle screen just a maybe though H-Arc or F-Arc can capitilize off of it by using they're teleports to get right back ontop of the oppenent on wake up I figured that maybe(Just a hunch)Her (a) teleport would place her right in front of them on wake up and her (b) teleport would put her behind them for mix up unless she has -F from it then its pointless I suppose  :psyduck: Also if you manage to find that H-Arc vid of her doing that combo you were talking about on Neco then that would be greatly appriciated since I dont really have any H-Arc vids  :P And also you guest out there that are peeking in, If you guys find videos of any of the Arcs thats not listed dont be shy to put em up, We're here to help each other out  :teach: :D
« Last Edit: November 14, 2008, 10:38:53 AM by Leon Rose »
woof: like all the stuff i hear from them im like 'thats everything i had t o deal with back when i played'

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 03:03:13 PM »
Maybe something like 3C then 6C for that extra hit after upwards slash (MBAC 3B). I think there's quite an amount of delay after teleport. Unless you got the opponent really scared to poke out, I don't think it will really work like what you described. Its just my speculation though.

Some vids I came across:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4881351 Yukinose (C-Akiha) vs SII (C-Arc)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4993774 SII (C-Arc) vs some H-Len (SII got it bad in this match)

Some C-Arc (えーすけ)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4941588
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4941767
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4941500
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4941647

A japanese wiki for MBAA. This is Arcueid's page http://www12.atwiki.jp/tnkcup/pages/50.html
The combos are listed at the bottom and its pretty much quite understandable. I can only imagine how it would look like though since I don't have the game.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 05:06:41 PM »
Speaking of the nicovids I really gotta find a way to get a account with them  :slowpoke:
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 09:13:40 AM »

By the way, Are Melty Blood and Melty Bread different games?

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 10:14:35 AM »
YES!! Thanks alot Necro  :prinny:
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 10:41:05 AM »
Rules for wallslam and relaunch has changed (they combine it but 2 wallslam still applies). If you do it 3 times, you cannot followup after 4C or 3C. HOWEVER, 3C>623B launcher nullify it allowing you to air combo normally. Multiple relaunch works but is bound to the rule.

(623B has been change to upward swipe instead of the downward swipe)

All three 236A are chargeable although the function for the 2nd and 3rd is unclear.

Damage is her biggest nerf. 50 hit combo for 3k damage. Actually low damage destroys her. Doing an average 3-4k doesn't help killing those HM godly heal and annoying circuit spark. Most long combo deals same or lower damage than short ones.

No idea how to convert Arc 5C superjump to wallslam/ground combo because you are force to JC/JB early/high above the ground before it becomes invalid.

Nerfed throw means no oki. Even if you corner air throw, you can't do IAD oki anymore. If you want, end with 623A.

You can't spam whiff JA like mad anymore for whatever reason you ever had.. Arc air normals are still horrible.

The only real boost i can say is 5A that hit crouchers.

You must be pretty close 2C > 4C to work. 4C isn't your universal launcher anymore.

Arc new special is 63214.

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2008, 02:14:10 AM »
By 4C, I'm sure you mean 4B right? Well, I'm sorta leaning towards C-Arc, but we'll see.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 01:47:08 PM »
Does anybody have some videos of H-Arc, like, where she actually gets her full bnb off?  I hear it's legendary and I want to see it D:.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 10:46:17 PM »
Dude Im still looking for it :o If you find it first then let me know
:Edit:Here ya go dude, This Half Moon Arc player owns.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6276689
« Last Edit: March 03, 2009, 09:23:53 PM by Leon Rose »
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2009, 12:49:50 PM »
A couple videos I found. I figured I'd post them since they weren't here yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k5DlNelQhI
@0:40  4000+ damage combo
@1:40  214a into teleport? I'm guessing that's an extra input kind of like Miyako's 236b6a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185B5yzzhgU
@0:22 Again 214a into teleport, this time she ends up on the other side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CJ4CazRBk

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2009, 06:22:43 PM »
Basically after 214a/b you have three inputs to choose from. The a follow up is the usual C animation thrust, B is her jumping knee animation that can go into air bnb and C follow up is teleport. I havent played the game yet, I just have the capture guild but the teleport can be used if you get a knock down and otg 214 into teleport follow up prolly.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 03:08:57 AM »
I'm going to have fun with that. The one thing I missed when changing from Warc to Arc was the teleports.

Edit: more vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcCBUUiQZ7s
@3:40 First time I've seen that, just imagine the hitbox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGdAUxpH0k
@2:33 Another 4000+ combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7r9oiBm28Q
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2009, 09:55:28 PM »
from what Ive seen, each hit of her Rekkas are ex edge cancellable. You picked a good time to play Arc cause she gets so many fun tools to mess with in this game.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2009, 02:18:14 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNmaXxxJVw&feature=channel_page

Awesome stuff. Some look match practical to me. Guess its time to pick a style and stick to it.

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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2009, 03:14:02 AM »
I've already picked mine. C-Arc definitely.

I'm not sure but I think this is the most options I've seen on a character.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2009, 11:28:25 AM »
C-Arc has so many options and gimmicks. She's borderline retarded in that department. It takes some abnormal skill to be good with her, that's for sure. I plan on maining all 3 for certain reasons but I really want to focus on H-Arc.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2009, 08:14:34 PM »
I wanna play C-Arc but still will play H and F, Its just pretty cool to see that they give her fun gimmicky tools now. Ive been playing MB off and on since old school MeltyBlood(BROKEN ASS GAME) so Ive seen her get stuff and have stuff taken away so seeing her now with all this stuff is like "YES" compared to MBAC where she was so zzzzz.
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Re: MBAA Arcueid Thread
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2009, 05:39:11 AM »
why some or most of the players use the air throw instead of j.2c while doing the air combo?  :psyduck: