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: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 14, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
On my keyboard at home, i can't do 1C. :psyduck:

Nothing happens if i hold down-left and press C. It works fine with A and B, and it also works if i switch keyboard, but my other keyboard has sloppy keys unsuited for fighters.

Anyone else experienced something like this? I'd rather not buy another keyboard over something stupid like this.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: djenkov June 14, 2011, 10:25:47 AM
You could try remapping your c-attack.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: fiendmaw June 14, 2011, 12:45:40 PM
I didnt have any problems doing the input you mentioned in my keyboard warrior career(that spans over 3 keyboards).
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Rokunaya June 14, 2011, 12:52:45 PM
I'm not completely sure, but I believe that on some keyboards they're some combinations of buttons that aren't recognized as soon as you start hitting 3 buttons together.

If this is the case, try relocating your C button and see if it works
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 14, 2011, 01:54:22 PM
Remapping does work, but using another key as C is something my brain can't handle.

Seems the only option is to get another new keyboard.
Know of any keyboards that are particularly good for fighters?
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: fiendmaw June 14, 2011, 02:36:01 PM
Remapping does work, but using another key as C is something my brain can't handle.

Seems the only option is to get another new keyboard.
Know of any keyboards that are particularly good for fighters?
You should try to get a keyboard that doesnt jam when pressing 3 buttons simultaneously.Also I think keyboards that register a command when you push down the button(rather than releasing) would be good for fighting games.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 14, 2011, 05:32:31 PM
You should try to get a keyboard that doesnt jam when pressing 3 buttons simultaneously.
Well yeah, that's one of the the minimum requirements.

Also I think keyboards that register a command when you push down the button(rather than releasing) would be good for fighting games.
I've never tried a keyboard that registers the command upon release rather than press.

I was thinking a keyboard with flatter buttons might help a little with faster execution, and someone mentioned somewhere that you could replace the rubber things under the buttons with metal thingies for a better result, i think.
I'm not sure about how that works, which is why I'd appreciate it if some sort of specialist could fill me in.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: djenkov June 15, 2011, 05:19:19 AM
You should try to get a keyboard that doesnt jam when pressing 3 buttons simultaneously.
Well yeah, that's one of the the minimum requirements.

Also I think keyboards that register a command when you push down the button(rather than releasing) would be good for fighting games.
I've never tried a keyboard that registers the command upon release rather than press.

I was thinking a keyboard with flatter buttons might help a little with faster execution, and someone mentioned somewhere that you could replace the rubber things under the buttons with metal thingies for a better result, i think.
I'm not sure about how that works, which is why I'd appreciate it if some sort of specialist could fill me in.
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: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 15, 2011, 05:42:39 AM
Forget about that crap and just buy Razer Lycosa
It's got fancy lights and an extended front, which are both bad in my opinion. Worst of all though is that it has its own drivers, which makes it incompatible with my PS3 keyboard-controller converter.

I'd prefer it if i could customize a classic keyboard or just find one that is nice by default, without any fancy modern functions.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Arlieth Tralare June 15, 2011, 11:46:18 PM
You need a keyboard with Anti-Ghosting features.

The problem arises because keyboards use an X/Y Axis Grid for their keys. This means that if you hold S, C and X, the third key will get cockblocked because the other two keys are already using up the X and Y axis. S and C both use up an axis that X needs, so it gets ghosted.

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/AntiGhostingExplained.aspx for more info.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 17, 2011, 05:25:01 AM
You need a keyboard with Anti-Ghosting features.

The problem arises because keyboards use an X/Y Axis Grid for their keys. This means that if you hold S, C and X, the third key will get cockblocked because the other two keys are already using up the X and Y axis. S and C both use up an axis that X needs, so it gets ghosted.

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/AntiGhostingExplained.aspx for more info.
That site was helpful.

When holding HG, C is the only other button i can't press.
When holding WE, X is the only other button i can't press.

*Reading further*

Thanks a lot, now i know what to look for and what it's called.
Was gonna check out computer stores today, so the timing is perfect.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 17, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
Ordered a Zowie Celeritas keyboard online. Seemed like the best one for me.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: djenkov June 17, 2011, 05:14:41 PM
Ordered a Zowie Celeritas keyboard online. Seemed like the best one for me.
Does it glow in blue?
No?
Its a trash.
: Re: Certain button combinations not working on keyboard
: Roy-Kr June 17, 2011, 07:36:30 PM
I'm a minimalist. Glow is poison for my mind.

I can find no peace as long as there is embellishment on my computer parts.