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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2007, 10:45:48 AM »
I've had that converter for a long time. Works fine with PS2 pads and T5 stick. Lags with some PSX pads (not sure which ones) and HRAPs.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2007, 04:11:48 AM »
My computer w/ crt monitor works well without the tweaker, with it I 'feel' a very slight improvement.

My new laptop w/ lag display, has some lag on its own, while with the tweaker is it very much playable.  There is probably still a slight delay though, I'm just not noticing it.

This is using the first download in the link to srk with it set to 500.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »
do parallel port converters have any lag? i'm using this really old psx -> parallel port converter and i was wondering if there's any lag in there. i'm using a hori fighting stick 2 and i sometimes switch to pad. i don't feel any real difference. what about HRAP's? anyone done any testing with those using a parallel port converter?

i also have a radioshack converter, but since those have been proven to have lag even with USB Overclock i'm going to refrain from using them. right now i'm going to keep using this parallel port converter, if memory serves me right those converters have very minimal/no lag but i'm just not too sure.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2007, 12:04:15 AM »
overclocking usb ports makes such a fat difference and gamestop seems to suck at stocking, i got mine from fry's thanks to a tip from alt
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2007, 08:50:12 PM »
I got this a while back, and haven't noticed any lag with it. Cost me $7 including shipping ^_^. I'll try the USB rate tweaker eventually and see if i notice a difference though.

If you don't wanna go to the ebay page, it looks like this:
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2007, 08:02:01 PM »
what about using USB sticks? do they lagg aswell since its a USB device?  I use my DOA4 stick for b2 and dont really notice any lagg normaly but im not sure.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2007, 04:37:50 PM »
If it was designed for usb then it shouldn't, but there always is a chance.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2007, 12:35:17 PM »
what about using USB sticks? do they lagg aswell since its a USB device?  I use my DOA4 stick for b2 and dont really notice any lagg normaly but im not sure.

Windows' default USB speed causes an 8ms delay, which is less than 1 frame. Probably why you're not noticing it.

Anything lower than half a frame (there are approx. 16.6 ms in a frame in MBAC) should be 100% playable.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2007, 06:05:44 AM »
Windows' default USB speed causes an 8ms delay, which is less than 1 frame. Probably why you're not noticing it.

Anything lower than half a frame (there are approx. 16.6 ms in a frame in MBAC) should be 100% playable.

It's not an 8 ms delay, it is an up to 8 ms delay.  Assuming MB polls for inputs once a frame(60fps/16.667ms), this is a one frame delay about 1/4 of the time, slightly less.  USB tweaker to 500 and it goes to 1/16 of the time.  For some reason this feels like a big difference when using a laptop's display.

This is assuming there is no lag somewhere between you pressing something and the usb port on the computer(IE a converter lagging).  There is also display lag which this doesn't take into consideration and won't change no matter what controller you use.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2007, 08:19:37 AM »
I got this a while back, and haven't noticed any lag with it. Cost me $7 including shipping ^_^. I'll try the USB rate tweaker eventually and see if i notice a difference though.

If you don't wanna go to the ebay page, it looks like this:


As an added note to anyone looking to get one of these, make sure you do NOT get the 4-player version. For some reason it seems like the four-player version cycles between reading each port, even if there's nothing plugged in, so what ends up happening is you get dropped inputs like crazy. It works great for everything that's not a fighting game, such as emulators, but it is god-awful for any fighting game.

Maybe the USB rate tweaker would help a little, but I'd rather just get something like the Pelican or EMS2. So far the EMS2 is the best one I've used, and I've never even considered using a rate tweaker with it. It's something to look into.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2007, 09:25:28 AM »
Just so everyone knows, I updated the first post in the thread with an Amazon affiliate link for the Pelican adapter. It's cheaper than the GameStop price, and GameStop seems to have stopped stocking them since Guitar Hero 3 came out on PS3.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2007, 12:05:05 AM »
Just so everyone knows, I updated the first post in the thread with an Amazon affiliate link for the Pelican adapter. It's cheaper than the GameStop price, and GameStop seems to have stopped stocking them since Guitar Hero 3 came out on PS3.

According to the reviews, this one from the Amazon link is not the same as the one gamestop was selling earlier so I can not vouch for this working. In fact, the reviews seem to state the opposite in fact. Furthermore, the picture provided is obviously not the same adapter. Proceed with caution >_>

The proper model # for the Pelican adapter is PL-6338 as stated in one of the comments.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2007, 02:25:08 AM »
The hell? Hmm. Lemme check that out.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2007, 02:41:33 AM »
If that's true this should be made known, I'd hate to see people get shafted.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2007, 08:00:13 AM »
Shit, that sucks. I hope people can still get ahold of the other model in some way. Its rare to find a high quality PS2 to USB adapter.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2007, 03:51:10 PM »
just to clarify, this IS the PS2 to PS3 adapter, correct?  It works for the PC?
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2007, 03:55:14 PM »
just to clarify, this IS the PS2 to PS3 adapter, correct?  It works for the PC?
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2007, 08:27:05 PM »
The link in the edited post only reveals a message from Amazon that the product isn't in stock anymore. If someone could suggest a PS2-USB adaptor that I could purchase and that keeps lag to a minimum then I'd appreciate it greatly. Looking around doesn't seem to be revealing a whole lot.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2007, 08:58:15 PM »
I'm not sure if Pelican converters are better than your average converter. Really, the main selling point is that it works with HORI sticks because HORI PCBs are notorious for being picky with converters.
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2007, 10:09:57 AM »
I see. Well, I'm just looking for any halfway decent ps2 usb converter but just finding any is becoming somewhat difficult at this point.

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2008, 07:14:16 PM »
why can i not find it anymore i currently have one and lost one so now i need another one and cannot find it anywhere  =0(... i checked every where online... i know i might have to do some searching at local gamestop stores bleh!!!

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2008, 02:13:44 PM »
All the links on the op post are soldout....anyone know anywhere else I can get a good converter?
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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2008, 08:13:02 PM »
i found a couple at a local game stop or even try an fye.. i guess it would be best to call aroudn make sure they got it thsi way you dont make a wasted trip

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2008, 07:40:20 AM »
anyone having problems where theirs jsut stops working out of nowhere

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Re: Pelican PS2-USB Adapter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2008, 09:40:40 AM »
anyone having problems where theirs jsut stops working out of nowhere

Mine did about two weeks ago.  I know a couple of others who have had the same problem too.
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