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Offline Tonberry

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2010, 03:25:38 PM »
No good player will ever be hit by a raw BHAD. No good player. EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r953jkK_lw8#t=1m07s

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 09:41:21 PM »
Hahaha, tnx for the post Tonberry. +Heat
(I was about to search some vids where players were hit by AADs, but you got ahead of me)

Everyone can be hit by a RAW AAD. Just timing and exectuion are the keys.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2010, 07:52:54 AM »
I'm Ryougi. I'm the scariest in blood heat.

Attack me and risk eating 7k damage that bypasses defense. Or I scare you into chicken blocking during blockstrings because of a godlike BHAD.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2010, 09:56:17 AM »
Yeah, and Ryougi also has that LA glitch in AA. Not that doing a flat 7k no matter the circumstances isn't enough.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2010, 04:51:14 PM »
Just a random observation, but recently I've been looking at some videos and I've seen Hare go in Blood Heat quite a bit more than other players and then combo in AAD. Not sure if he's doing it for the kicks or not

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2010, 05:05:22 PM »
Well, Sacchin's AAD is a throw and does better damage than the AD. Dunno.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2010, 05:57:29 PM »
Just a random observation, but recently I've been looking at some videos and I've seen Hare go in Blood Heat quite a bit more than other players and then combo in AAD. Not sure if he's doing it for the kicks or not
Satsuki AAD is unescapable in a lot of situations and does more damage when comboed into than almost anything else in the game.

Half the damage is completely unscaled and it's unblockable, undodgeable, unshieldable, and unjumpable. The only way I've seen to get out of it point blank is to do an invincible move.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2010, 07:40:38 PM »
Someone definitely dodged it vs Hare and punished him for it.
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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2010, 10:24:26 PM »
Someone definitely dodged it vs Hare and punished him for it.

Pointblank without heat/dp?

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2010, 12:13:08 AM »
Someone definitely dodged it vs Hare and punished him for it.
It might be dodgeable but it's definitely very specific. It has a ton of active frames and has a very big hitbox and collision box. Usually if you do something that doesn't hit her out of it from invincibility, it just will push you forward until it does hit.

I've tried it a few times, and it's a pretty weird move. Sometimes it looks like you're completely over the move in the air if she does it at a certain distance and you double jump, but then the collision box shoves you backwards into it as you're coming down anyways. If you dodge, she can just pass through you until the dodge ends and then grabs you during recovery.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2010, 02:19:04 AM »
I hope I'm using the framedata programme correctly, ie seeing the right move and reading the data right.



This is her AD. The red box lasts for ONE frame.




These two show the red boxes for her AAD. Altogether it's active for 8 frames. If you noticed, both red boxes are slightly SMALLER than the ones in her AD.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2010, 04:14:18 AM »
For the AAD note how it says N for Air Block, while for the AD there's a - instead.

That means the AAD can actually hit air borne opponents (also being air unblockable), while the AD whiffs against air borne opponents.

So even though the hitbox on the AAD is smaller, it can catch your aerial hitbox when you try to jump out.

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Re: Blood Heat
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2010, 07:52:03 PM »
c-miyako dodge (cartwheel) works on satsuki AD, but not AAD. i'm thinking unless you have invincible frames, it'll catch you every time. 236C/214C/22C (upper-body invincibility on 22C) all worked.