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Atlas Academy => Kohaku's Magical Garage => : Komidol December 07, 2009, 11:28:09 PM

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: Invalids
: Komidol December 07, 2009, 11:28:09 PM
I had a fight at NECX where Zaelar EX'd off an invalid combo on me, which (not to my knowledge ;_;) ran up my meter from like 120% to max.  So, this got me thinking - what exactly are the properties of invalids?  I know obviously invalids are hits where you could of done something (either block or tech), but because the defending player didn't do the aforementioned, an invalid combo/hit occurs.  How does an invalid effect circuit and proration?  How does is effect the state of each player?  What does the Frame Data look like?  
: Re: Invalids
: S-Blade December 07, 2009, 11:50:13 PM
there's a sort of infinite/loop protection in the game such that if you are comboed for a long time, after something like 30 hits your meter gain starts going up exponentially. it'd be useful if you can remember the exact situation but it's likely that he pulled off a combo that is longer than usual and would not have been  possible (i.e. as long or as many hits) without it being invalid. this is probably what gave you so much meter.
: Re: Invalids
: Tempered December 07, 2009, 11:50:54 PM
Invlaids just let you know you coudlve teched at some point and make you feel dumb. Zaelars EX hiero probably brought the combo meter above 30 (since it does like 30 by itself), at which point the person being comboed gains a massive amount of meter. you can generally see this in combo vids.
: Re: Invalids
: Zaelar December 08, 2009, 02:11:10 AM
I'm guessing 214c, 236c otg.
: Re: Invalids
: Komidol December 08, 2009, 09:16:05 AM
Yeah it ran 44 hits.  Thanks for clearing that up.