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Atlas Academy => Kohaku's Magical Garage => : Pfhor July 25, 2010, 07:16:24 PM

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: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Pfhor July 25, 2010, 07:16:24 PM
The heights have changed (been more simplified, even) a bit from mbaa, so it's worth making a new list. These groups are in order from tallest to shortest, and all the characters within a group have the same height (or so close that I can't tell the difference with my eyes).

Rank A (Tallest): Nero

Rank B: Wara

Rank C: Tohno, Nanaya

Rank D : Wlen (note that her hitbox is the same in H moon as it is in C/F, despite the different crouching animation.

Rank E: The rest of the cast (even Len)

Rank F: Neco Arc

Rank G (Shortest): Neco Arc Chaos

Less complicated than it was in mbac for sure.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Tempered July 25, 2010, 07:49:39 PM
baw, no more tall aoko hitbox.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Zaelar July 25, 2010, 08:29:01 PM
So glad I don't have to remember who goes under my 5c and who doesn't anymore.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Irysa July 26, 2010, 10:55:27 AM
whoa, wlen is smaller than the shikis? ass.

I could have sworn I remember nanaya 236a not whiffing like mad on hisui compared to a bunch of other chars in E tier though.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Pfhor July 26, 2010, 09:46:17 PM
From my almost extensive testing I have noticed that the crouching hitboxes are uneffected by hitstun or blockstun (no instances like mbac warc where her hitbox is smaller when she's crouch blocking), if anyone can find a character that it does affect let me know.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Curbeh July 26, 2010, 10:24:16 PM
Great list, good shit.

Also, could you look at C-Seifuku's a bit? If I recall, F-Ries can hop over her couching hitbox for some reason... (thin?)
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Pfhor July 26, 2010, 11:47:27 PM
Great list, good shit.

Also, could you look at C-Seifuku's a bit? If I recall, F-Ries can hop over her couching hitbox for some reason... (thin?)

You are correct, F-Reis can dash over Sakiha's crouching hitbox (not limited to C moon Sakiha). That's a different matter though, related to her collision box(gray) not her hitbox (green).

BEHOLD: http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5995/crouchinghitbox.jpg

Reis dashing over sakiha: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1017/reisakiha.jpg
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: ehrik July 27, 2010, 12:12:45 AM
i think its important to know some dash hitboxes as well, I'll try to make a list similar to the one pfhor posted tomorrow

I'll try to include special [3] walks as well
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: DJcream July 27, 2010, 12:22:31 AM
Okay, so the tiers are for the hitboxs and not the collision boxes.

While I was working on various oki setups for W.Len using super jump to push people into my 421b, i noticed that some characters (Lolis, Akiha, and Ciel) have smaller collision boxes than the rest of the E-tiers (Sion, Ries, etc...). I don't have any real exact numbers so if you can look into that, that'd be fantastic.
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: ehrik July 29, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
It was too hard to group them so i just took pics


(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9112/dash1.png)

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5273/86042970.png)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1742/41207309.png)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6813/1233i.png)

F-ciel's A command grab

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6695/clashh.png)
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: CPhame July 29, 2010, 06:10:09 PM
Some of those dash hitboxes don't even make any sense...
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Light July 29, 2010, 06:58:44 PM
Ciel moves like a character from Naruto.  :blah:
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: sevalle July 29, 2010, 08:10:08 PM
nah, that should be F-Ryougi
: Re: MBAA crouching hitbox height tiers
: Zaelar July 30, 2010, 02:01:39 AM
That's a really big difference between Len's cat forms.