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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2012, 11:41:32 PM »
Aware and his F-Hisui
http://youtu.be/jYjMaRyTeFc
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2012, 12:44:46 AM »
god its like she's got roller skates on

also did he dead body cross up in that vid?
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »
Could anyone please write a guide/update the mizuumi wiki or create at least a thread with a compilation of all the strats/combos/stuff is written just in a couple of posts instead of of 6 threads? I just started learning Hisui right now after being a Wara player for like 4 years, and even though I know the basics, I wish I could just confirm all my knowledge. The Mizuumi Hisui Wiki page is clear except some explanation for her normals, and I think the ps2 page is pretty outdated. I'm not even asking for this stuff for myself , but I feel we need a good database again to bring in the new players, because as I see it now, most players are just the older players and there are only a few of new ones wanting to play the game, especially when some wiki categories are so lacking. Teaching every person individually is just too much of a hassle : ( Thanks


There is not much that I can contribute so ...
Startup frames for C-Hisui moves( if anything is wrong please let me know) :
5A - 4f
5B - 8f
5C - 15f
2A - 4f
2B - 7f
2C - 9f
6B - 15f
6C - 15f
6C followup - 24f

4B - 16f

j.A - 5f
j.B - 6f
j.B followup - 6f
j.C - 21f
j.2C - 24f

236a - 10f
236b - 14f
236c - 16f

j236a - 9f
j236b - 13f
j236c - 8f

623a - 12f
623b - 23f
623c


« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 10:27:23 AM by VanDarkholme »

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2012, 10:59:52 AM »

There is not much that I can contribute so ...
Startup frames for C-Hisui moves( if anything is wrong please let me know) :


Frame data is delicious.  ;D I'll be sure to add it in when I actually... have time to type everything out... at least for the C-Hisui portion.

In addition, Id like to know the Active frame, & the recovery frame of the moves.

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2012, 12:29:59 PM »
Alrighty, I'll post the active and recovery frames in about an hour - I'm using the framedisplay tool so it will take me a little bit of time

Edit : It's kinda hard to check active frames - stuff like dusts , the frames for air moves are always shown with the landing frames so its kinda useless : ( Also remember all this data are whiffed moves
startup               active    recovery
5A - 4f         4   8
5B - 8f         6   13
5C - 15f              13   18
2A - 4f         4   8
2B - 7f         6   12
2C - 9f         3   23
6B - 15f
6C - 15f              3   21
6C followup - 24f   4   23

4B - 16f      1   20

j.A - 5f      4   28
j.B - 6f      5   42
j.B followup - 6f
j.C - 21f      4   46
j.2C - 24f      9   61

236a - 10f      cant tell   10
236b - 14f      cant tell   11
236c - 16f   
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2012, 02:26:22 PM »
hmm... new technology...

http://youtu.be/XUIdpRYsHWo#t=15m45s - 12 meter to 140 meter
http://youtu.be/XUIdpRYsHWo#t=16m35s - 0 to 157 meter

Just look at all that meter gain. Extra meter is always a plus. Course this was only done when the opponent is at/near 300 meter.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2012, 05:13:40 PM »
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2012, 06:12:18 PM »
lol

That's hilarious but I'm not goign to learn it :|
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2012, 10:53:20 AM »
Doesnt seem that damage rewarding : (

2b 5[c] 623C 5b 5c 6c 623[ b ] 22c jump back j[c] dash 2c 623a bento
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #134 on: February 27, 2012, 11:06:28 AM »
The 623b is charged.

I wish I could say it was done for the hard knockdown but he could have done the normal tech punish anyway.

So I'll leave it as SWAG
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2012, 04:43:37 PM »
I'm in the process of turning my MBAC Hisui into the proper AA standards, so my first step was learning those sexy yayaya combos but I've ran into a problem...

See, I can do the 2abc6c version just fine, but when I do the BE5c j.A j.BB 236a combo the rejump portion gets a lot harder to do, and even when I get it right I can never end it on 623a because the dust ends up behind my enemy and won't hit him for some reason (I can do the 236a236a ender fine tho).

Any input would be nice, especially on the dust thing, since I can't seem to get it to work no matter what.

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2012, 05:16:08 PM »
I'm in the process of turning my MBAC Hisui into the proper AA standards, so my first step was learning those sexy yayaya combos but I've ran into a problem...

See, I can do the 2abc6c version just fine, but when I do the BE5c j.A j.BB 236a combo the rejump portion gets a lot harder to do, and even when I get it right I can never end it on 623a because the dust ends up behind my enemy and won't hit him for some reason (I can do the 236a236a ender fine tho).

Any input would be nice, especially on the dust thing, since I can't seem to get it to work no matter what.

Here is my previous post on the combo.
(anything before a 2c)... >2C> 5C or 6C > Jump > jC > airdash > jBB > j236B > land > jump >jAB jAC > Airdash > jBB > 236B > land > 623A or 236A236A

Couple of notes
0: Works when you are near/at the corner.
1: The yayaya combo works best when you delay the 2nd B of the jBB
2: Alternatively, You can Reverse Beat the jBB instead of Airdash 
3: 623A ender has to be done the moment you land the j236B. (I recommend double tapping the A).
4: Standard follow up of the 623A ender is the 22A Bento... You can also be creative like you would any other 623A ender
5: Standard follow up after a 236A236A ender is an EX cancel to her 22C (EX bento). If you chose to do something else, note that the opponent gets up fairly quickly.

Edit: Damnit ><. Thanks for the correction, Mintz.

Also... when do you "BE5c j.A j.BB 236a"? To me, it only makes sense to do this after 6b launcher, and rejumping after a 236A is pretty strict.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2012, 05:36:40 PM »
Yeah, it's after 6b launcher, I actually meant BEjC not 5c :psyduck:. And I had read your post already and it helped me a great deal with the 2abc6c combo but I kept whiffing the 623 when doing the 6b version.

I think I might have figured out the problem though, it seems my second jump was actually a tad high and that made my 623 whiff at the end, I'm delaying the BEjC a bit now and getting both the rejump and 623a ender a lot more consistently, or so it seems... still need to test a bit more!

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #138 on: March 22, 2012, 09:27:30 AM »
You don't have to use j236a if you somehow confirmed into the 6b launcher. You can do this instead and I find it easier since the timing is the same as the 2c 5c/6c launcher.

2a 2b 5c 2c 6b j[c] ja jb land ja jbb j236b jaac airdash jbb j236b land 623a/236a236a

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #139 on: March 22, 2012, 01:45:02 PM »
As a general note, I'd keep the combos below or near 30 hits, unless I want even more meter or the opponent is in Heat. Up the combo counter meter more, you start feeding the opponent tons of meter.

If you are wondering, the ladle combo gives em about 45% meter. Ladle combos really add up the combo counter quickly.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #140 on: May 25, 2012, 01:30:14 AM »
Needs more Hisui love.
Have some Ten.
http://youtu.be/LKIWP1aKVts#t=12m00s
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #141 on: June 08, 2012, 01:30:57 AM »
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #142 on: June 19, 2012, 07:26:44 PM »
Hisui has a really nice ass.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #143 on: June 25, 2012, 03:29:11 AM »
Is there any trick to do j.BB consistently after an air throw? most of the time Hisui is facing the wrong way when I try to do it :gonk:

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« Reply #144 on: June 25, 2012, 11:04:19 AM »
Is there any trick to do j.BB consistently after an air throw? most of the time Hisui is facing the wrong way when I try to do it :gonk:
I assume you mean after a raw airthrow.

There is no real trick. You just have to hit j.BB the moment you bounce off the opponent.
The exception is when you... i guess air dash in airthrow?... Hisui may bounce and go too far forward because of forward momentum, making the jBB whiff.

I have been doing j6B myself after an airthrow. It's funny to see the opponent bounce from an air dust.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #145 on: September 20, 2012, 06:23:48 AM »
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #146 on: September 22, 2012, 04:59:17 PM »
http://youtu.be/j_Tt8g834Qk#t=10m54s
Ten is still my hero <3

You have low standards. Pick F(raud)-moon, 2AAA redash, overpowered dive oki, hero.

On an educational note- i'm amazed they didn't catch and fix the JBB arcana heart fairy zooming yet.
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #147 on: September 23, 2012, 12:48:22 AM »
http://youtu.be/j_Tt8g834Qk#t=10m54s
Ten is still my hero <3

You have low standards. Pick F(raud)-moon, 2AAA redash, overpowered dive oki, hero.

On an educational note- i'm amazed they didn't catch and fix the JBB arcana heart fairy zooming yet.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Tt8g834Qk&feature=youtu.be#t=13m05s
You forgot chair.

also... ah fairy zooming? what?
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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #148 on: October 03, 2012, 08:09:45 PM »
lol

That's hilarious but I'm not goign to learn it :|
I really wanted to learn that.
I found that with some funky air movements you can extend the combo with j6b (MOREDUSTPLEASE :o) as there are no more jumpcancels available this is the only option to do so..

I figured it might be worthwhile with extra damage, but im getting an extra whopping 100  :emo:

http://www.youtu.be/a54GOI4IGeE

Requires you to be within a fairly small distance (MIDscreen) to work as the j[c] will always dump the opponent past the Exbento, you need the corner there to trap them onto it, however you can't be too close to the corner or the Exdust won't be able to push back (forgive me for stating the obvious)

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Re: MBAACC Hisui
« Reply #149 on: October 13, 2012, 04:18:44 PM »
http://youtu.be/j_Tt8g834Qk#t=10m54s
Ten is still my hero <3

You have low standards. Pick F(raud)-moon, 2AAA redash, overpowered dive oki, hero.

On an educational note- i'm amazed they didn't catch and fix the JBB arcana heart fairy zooming yet.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Tt8g834Qk&feature=youtu.be#t=13m05s
You forgot chair.

also... ah fairy zooming? what?

The j.bb bug.