H-Hisui Experimentation

[Master Pogi]

Sure, C-Hisui is hype, but where is the stool pressure love?  

Welp, I thought that someone should get an H-moon thread of Hisui started, so how about it? Really, I haven't been focused on anything too specific on her normals and specials. Share your thoughts and inputs so we can add to or subtract from this.  Hopefully I'm not the only H-Hisui player out there.

Some basic bnbs I'm using:

2aa 5b 2b 2c 5c 6cc - This does 3k. It is a simple combo for an oki setup. This can also be used for an otg string in the corner. I use 2aa 5b 236a 22a/22c oki for an otg combo. You probably shouldn't use this shyt too often 

2aa 5b 2b 2c 5c 6c j.bc j.bc AT [or j.c j.bc AT] - This does 4.3K and sets up a tech punish [j.c j.bc AT does 4.1K]. If one does not tech, then I usually throw out a stool oki.

5a6aa 2c(slightly delayed) 5c 6c j.bc j.bc AT [or j.c j.bc AT] - This does 4.5k [j.c j.bc AT does 4.3K]. 2c is delayed, but not too much. 5c should hit three times. Again, go for a tech punish or a stool oki if one does not tech.

5b 5c5a6aa 2c(slightly delayed) 5c 6c j.bc j.bc AT - This does 4.7K. 5c should cancel into 5a and hit only once.

2a 2b/5b 5c5a(whiff)6aa 2c(slightly delayed) 5a(whiff)6aa 6c j.c j.bc AT - This does 4.5K. 5a does not hit in this string, but it is a whiff cancel.

In the corner...

2a 5b 2b 2c 5c 6b j.[c]b land j.abc j.bc AT - This does 4.7K. Use 9 for every jump in this string~ Also, the first j.b needs to be connected fairly low to the ground for the rejump. The timing is not too tough.


That's it from just a few hours of playing around with her.  

[F9|Chibi]

Hopefully I'm not the only H-Hisui player out there.  

Oh you're not, but I need to keep fucking around with her (especially with a tournament this weekend) before I can really point out things I think are worth pointing out sans bread and butters.

The combo I'm learning / using is 2aa, 5b, 2c, 5c (all hits), 2c, 6aa, j.[C], j.A, j.236b, land, (hold up / up forward), j.A, j.B, j.C, dj.B, dj.C, AT. does 4k something, but more importantly usually gets them into or pretty close to the corner if past mid screen, will have to continue to fuck around with it.

I'll throw out mix-ups and block strings too, she's definitely not the 'tragedy' I originally though she was.

;p

[CT_Warrior]

I was messing around with H-Hisui after seeing this thread.
Here's some things I found:

2B5C6AAA 2C 6AAA j6B xx
Maybe a 6C link is possible in corner, I haven't tried it out too much.

2C 5A(whiff) 6AA iad jC land xx
Another option to increase damage.

6B j[C] delay jB 6B 2A xx
You may very well lose damage on this combo, not sure.

6B j[C] delay jB 623A oki setup
Might be worth it depending on whether your opponent has little enough health to be killed with another semi-full bnb and other situational stuff like whether you feel like it or not. People used to go for Akiha summon oki with VSion after 2C in serious matches. I think it was pretty retarded, but oh well.

5A6A 5B 5C 2C 6C 6B j[C] delay jB jABC djABC at 5200+ damage versus VSion

H-Hisui versus C-Hisui:
Does a bit more damage than C-Hisui.
Loses jBB oki setups, but can put out a stool after no-tech airthrow at a risk.
Stools in neutral.

I feel like the main reason I use Hisui over any other character is her jBB mixups though, so I don't think I'll be using half at all.

[F9|Chibi]

There's more to a character then just a BnB you know.

Dude, you don't know how serious her new j.B is now, it's crazy. I need to fuck around with it some more but I think it trumps j.BB's offensive potential (which was pretty much just used for tech punish set ups anyway).

Also stools kinda suck now, but 100% pot books / metal tray are excellent.

She loses j.bb tech oki but gains the best defensive option in the game that grants oki on its own immediately after being used (bunker). The defensive option on its own is a huge plus for her. You either get the upper hand in Crescent and go to town on your opponent before they do that to you, or you slap people down just for throwing a 2.A at out when you've got meter. It's pretty much free.

I need to play alot more before I can really sit down and just blubber on about it but after a training session this weekend my eyes have opened up to her potential.

[ಠ_ಠ Dizzynecro]

Stools need to stay ot longer (and bite and shoot lazerz)

My u key jst broke WTF.

Half hisi is really fn thogh, I think I will at least second her.

[AARP|ZTB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzyxuqZ-IEU#t=1m43s

...uhhh...yyyyeaaah.

[F9|Chibi]

What the FUCK did she do there?

CH j.C, land, 2a, 2b, 5c, 6c, c, 236c, 5A, 6B, j.[C], j.B*, jc, j.A, j.C, airdash, j.B, j.A, j.B, airthrow?

*(this is so god damn low to the ground it almost looks like they fucking landed)

Ugh, I gotta go test that shit out.

[Skwuck]

Actually, doesn't she land? The combo after 6B looks more like...

...6B j[C]B land jAC ad jB jc jACB airthrow

But that was pretty awesome.

[Numakie]

jB is fast enough to catch em after a j[C]. i guess he caught him at the last moment in that vid.

I use a similar combo with C-Hisui cept I use jA over jB since book tends to whiff.