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Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« on: August 14, 2008, 06:15:19 AM »
Scott be over in Japan right now so he got to try out MBAA while its on test location still.
His internet sucks hard there (catching a wifi signal somewhere) so I'm posting this for him.  :toot: :toot:
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I'm not really much of a hisui player, but this is based on what i know of her in MBAC.

Generally the dust animation looks different.
Backdash covers much less distance
jump B is now a water towel splash, and does 1 hit. No more j.5BB book floor slam

2C,5C,6C j.C, j.C airgrab  is still  the bnb that i used that works fairly well.
Crescent Moon Hisui stil has regular tables for her j.C.
22A, 22B, are the same as MBAC. 22C is a EX move where hisui throws out a huge Family-sized bento set.

Half Moon hisui 22C she throws out a tiny footstool. doesnt use meter.

Full Moon Hisui (like ciel) is very different, but she has most of her normals the same, except she throws out different things.
22A is the chair like in MBAC, 22B is an office chair on wheels, she places it and it goes forward like len's cat. if opponent attacks it, it goes in the other direction. 22C is The Throne! Hisui plants it, and it requires 3 hits before getting destroyed, major stunage.

Jumping C, instead of table, is the long lamp, far reaching.
623A, hisui throws up an anti-air frying pan, 623B is a small ladder. 623C (ex move) is an huge ladder,

Arc Drive is the same.
I caught someone in my Full Moon Last Arc, looks/does exactly the same but the pink swirls cause a lot of lag, hopefully they can fix this. Speaking of bugs, i got one where we traded hits, the game declared Double KO, but the other guy lived and got the win, and i didnt. strange.

I'll be back for more MBAA this week playing Hisui and Ciel, but as for hisui i dont think she was changed too much.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 06:41:10 AM »
Not sure how I feel about these changes. j.BB was fairly central to Hisui's game in MBAC so losing it will probably change her game quite a bit. If she'll be able to make up for it with the new tools she gets, I can't really say.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 06:07:32 PM »
These new changes reek of awesome.

I'm fearful of her getting a bit gimped due to the lack of j.bb, but time will tell really.

I mean come on, an office chair?

Sign me the fuck up.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 12:03:50 AM »
played a bit more hisui and saw sme people playing her as well

seems that her old j.bb is still in the game in at least in Crescent Mode but its a differen command than before.
so good for you floor slammers

office chair is as funny as the throne, but i havent seen anyone use it much.


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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 04:44:54 PM »
Get pics / vids of this pleeeease~

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 08:41:50 PM »
FUCK YEA EX THRONE!


I wanna see more of this in action. :D
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 02:26:49 AM »
i dunno what you guys are talkin about.

You need to be all up on that family sized bento set yayhuzz!
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 02:53:34 AM »
I dunno, Hisui's cooking skills must have improved if she can pop out family sized bentos instantly. Anyone play through Kagetsu Tohya and catch the little part where she's trying to cut a fish? Or how she got up extra early just to make a box half a box of plum sandwiches?

That takes mad Hisui skills... wonder how much damage it causes...  :slowpoke:  :mystery:
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 10:20:46 PM »
Ok apparently Hisui's j.B in half crescent ? mode is a water bucket and wash cloth from the looks of it, so I don't know what's going to happen with the j.BB stuff we're used to.

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 01:04:19 PM »
i think they were all changed to water swish. but the old j.bb is still in there in Crescent mode. probably was changed to j.2b?

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 05:04:57 PM »
Yeah I saw that, but I'm looking for new stuff at the moment.

Me thinks this new j.B could be used for crossing up maybe?
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2008, 06:45:20 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBhd4YDLMls
Seems like its Cresent moon that plays very similar to v.B. EX Bento is a Picnic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8qZn1626Rk
HisuKoha Cresent: Kohaku comes out much faster now. Also it seems if the assist gets beat slammed mid attack, she will lay on the ground for a good while before getting up agian.

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 04:48:50 AM »
EX Ladder whiffs on crouching so looks like it has shit potential for reversal.

And yeah C-Hisui is looking to be an exact copy of v.B Hisui. Differences I've noticed are ex-bento(22c) instead of chair, and a difference in animation from both her ground and airthrows which I'm really worried about as it may look like it's impossible to act before landing after an airthrow now.

I'd really like to see nice things come out of the two other styles and the potential setups her new "tools" will give her access to, but if they turn out to suck it's good to know there's still good old v.B Hisui to go back to.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 02:30:45 PM »

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 03:49:51 PM »
I plan on abusing F-Hisui to the fullest, she looks like she's got plenty of tools for a great keep away game, and that's got my name written all over it.

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 06:09:57 PM »
My personal opinion on F-Hisui so far is nothing great.

Her normals look sweet but seeing them in action they don't seem to work; I've seen a j.lamp jump in simply whiffing for no reason, which leads me to believe the hitbox on it is really iffy. Ex ladder and the other variations might end up being a good anti air but nothing more, and anti airs isn't something Hisui has been lacking. Office chair... how does that help you when they can simply poke it and it's now THEIR office chair. Throne is cool though.

To be fair there hasn't been much F-Hisui footage uploaded so far and all of it was by people who had no idea how to play that version of the character, so it's very possible if not certain that my opinion will change as people find out how to play her correctly, and I'm really anxious to see how she evolves. But for now I can't say I'm thrilled by what I've seen and C-Hisui will remain my Hisui.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 07:27:53 PM »
the EX ladder works off the ground, the frame doesnt show it, but there is some forward momentum there. maybe an ender off a 5c? but i couldnt follow up on an air combo...

did anyone get hit with the family bento yet? is it just a big explosion?

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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 08:04:46 PM »
If it becomes their office chair after hitting it, couldn't you hit it back to make it yours again?
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 08:12:53 PM »
Well yeah obviously which is exactly my point. Office chair is nothing more than a neutral tool that benefits you as much as it benefits the other guy. Nothing I'll go crazy over like everybody else seems to do.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 08:17:38 PM »
1) Set THIS OFFICE CHAIR
2) let chair move towards enemy
3) attack enemy.
4) they do something and clash, revel over your advantage
5)????
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 08:59:36 PM »
From what I've seen, it might be useful when you knock them down and they're almost in the corner but not quite. Obviously in a completely neutral situation it wouldn't be as useful. But if they have to stand up as a chair is pushing them into the corner, then you have an advantage where you can press the offensive.

If the chair can be hit back and forth until its duration on the screen has expired, I bet there might even be some rallies. lol :V
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2008, 09:13:03 PM »
Meaty office chair sounds delicious. Let my opponent try and get rid of it, so I can hurt him for it.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 09:41:45 PM »
1) Set THIS OFFICE CHAIR
2) let chair move towards enemy
3) attack enemy.
4) they do something and clash
5) revel over your advantage, then it's your turn to clash on the chair and lose said advantage
5) ???
6) ??? ??? ???

This is the most gimmicky shit ever.
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Re: Scott's Actress Again Hisui Thread of Awesomeness
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2008, 09:54:46 PM »
If they take the option to actually hit the chair then why would I be infront of the chair again? That shit is like the perfect bait, it's a MOVING clash barrier.

Think of the bullshit you could get away with by hiding behind it and dodging it at the last second, or the baits you could come up with if you set it up on your opponents wake up.

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