DESERT COAST CASUALS

[Choco]

OLD Desert Coast Casuals
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Jaxx VS Mailorder - Part 1
Jaxx VS Mailorder - Part 2
Jaxx VS vmoney
Q-Chu VS vmoney
Wakkatana VS Q-Chu
Q-Chu VS Mailorder Part 1
Q-Chu VS Mailorder Part 2

Some casuals that were recorded in the past couple of weeks. 

DAY 07.07.2007 CASUALS:
Choco (Arcueid) VS vmoney (Red Arcueid)
Choco (Arcueid) VS Mailorder (Mech-Hisui)

07.13.2007 DESERT COAST ROUND ROBIN VIDEOS
All videos recorded are listed on my YouTube profile: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ChocoIncognito&p=r

[linalys]

I already said this to Choco in the irc chan, but for all of the Miyako players out there that don't sit in the irc room here you go.

Dear Arizona Miyako Player,

Don't use 6c it sucks. 

Sincerely,
linalys

[Hintalove]

I already said this to Choco in the irc chan, but for all of the Miyako players out there that don't sit in the irc room here you go.

Dear Arizona Miyako Player,

Don't use 6c it sucks. 

Sincerely,
linalys

>.>

that's like telling some newbie Akiha never to hit 2c5c

[Light]

I already said this to Choco in the irc chan, but for all of the Miyako players out there that don't sit in the irc room here you go.

Dear Arizona Miyako Player,

Don't use 6c it sucks. 

Sincerely,
linalys

>.>

that's like telling some newbie Akiha never to hit 2c5c

He's right, 6C sucks. You lose your options to tech punish and maybe oki pressure.

What's wrong with 2C5C? o_o

Edit: BTW, nice video edit you guys made. The crowd chatter is pretty funny. How'd you guys keep it in?

[vmoney48]

Now that I have free time, I can work more on my Warc.

[Hintalove]

I already said this to Choco in the irc chan, but for all of the Miyako players out there that don't sit in the irc room here you go.

Dear Arizona Miyako Player,

Don't use 6c it sucks. 

Sincerely,
linalys

>.>

that's like telling some newbie Akiha never to hit 2c5c

He's right, 6C sucks. You lose your options to tech punish and maybe oki pressure.

What's wrong with 2C5C? o_o

Edit: BTW, nice video edit you guys made. The crowd chatter is pretty funny. How'd you guys keep it in?

I'm pretty sure 6c is in her biggest and badestassest combos, but I guess I might be wrong.

[Alt]

Hey Arizona, do you know that you can regenerate life with Heat mode? Do it by hitting A + B + C when you have 100 or more circuit!

Warc B&B: 2b 2c 5c, jump, j.b (2 hit) j.c, double jump, j.b (2 hit) j.c air throw. End ground blockstrings with 2b 2c (5c tends to whiff in blockstrings) 214B and if one of the rings connects cancel into 214C and after every hit has connected jump or superjump in and j.b (2 hits) j.c, double jump, j.b (2 hits) j.c air throw.

Warakia close B&B: 2a 2b 2c (2 hits!) 6c, jump, j.c (3 hits), double jump, j.c (3 hits) 421c or b or air dash air throw. Warakia far B&B (string) 2c (2 hits) 5c, jump, j.b (1 hit) j.c, double jump, j.b (a j.c is possible here but the spacing is very specific) dash in air throw. Don't use j.421c outside of a combo. Don't frequently use tornados outside of blockstrings or predictably in them.

[Choco]

Alt: It's not that they don't know about Heat (else I'd be a complete failure as a teacher), but the practical application of it hasn't been fully realized by them yet. This was only a small part of the casuals we held that night.

[Alt]

I assumed as much, that was just my smarmy way of recommending that people use it more.

[linalys]

I'm pretty sure 6c is in her biggest and badestassest combos, but I guess I might be wrong.

Please do tell!  Here's my argument against 6c. 
70%r proration.  Everything Miyako has prorates and after you use this it'll just be that much worse.  You're basically doing super cancel damage after hitting 6c. 

6c leads to j.bc j.bc ender.  Basically it leads to nothing that anything else couldn't have done with the same/better results. 

It's a slowish command normal.  You aren't using this after 5c (the big damage combos usually include 5c) and you aren't using this in almost any situation (it's too slow).  What will it combo off of?  2c?  50% -> 70%r  = lol I'm doing no damage. 

What are the good points of it? 

Ver B: CE Miyako and no 6c's!  It's a pretty good Miyako if I may say so. 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PE6gBakq2-c

Too new?  Here's some F.T. vids for you then.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rLy2YnopIV8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l_KtUh-e95g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gteDZRC7SIQ

Now I watched those at some point a long time ago and haven't watched them since.  So maybe at some point F.T. accidentally does a 6c.  But he doesn't use it regularly! 

Finally, here's a vid of Miyako using 6c in the only situation I'd ever recommend it.   

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVHg7xvF9OA (2:32)

CH Anti Air!   

Of course after I finish typing all this it occurs to me that it's not 100% clear whether you're talking about Miyako 6c or Akiha 6c.  But either way I guess this is still informative.  I hope. 

[Tropsy]

Ver B: CE Miyako and no 6c's!  It's a pretty good Miyako if I may say so. 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PE6gBakq2-c

While I agree that 6C is pretty useless, I just had to nitpick. There's a 6C at 2:33

[linalys]

In the link you quoted, there's a nice KO screen with Akiha killing Shiki at 2:33.  Maybe you meant the last link I provided which I timestamped a 6c at 2:32?

[Tropsy]

It appears you are right. Which is rather strange, as I remember only clicking the first link, which I rechecked now and resulted in a video I've never watched before

[Hintalove]

I think I just lol'd out. If 5c is the kind of slayer/jam like shoulder tackle, that's what I was talking about. I fail at miyako

[Choco]

Edit: BTW, nice video edit you guys made. The crowd chatter is pretty funny. How'd you guys keep it in?

This is the ghetto setup: All composite inputs from the PS2 go into a VCR. There's a Y-splitter for the composite video out that clones the video to my TV and to my capture box. The audio is directly output to the TV, and a microphone on the capture box captures game audio and chatter. If monorual sound is turned on, I could set up a game-only and chatter recording dual-system.

[Q Chu]

I really do suck, but in my defense, I just started playing!!

I'll get better when I get a copy of the game, I swear! 

Thanks for the tips, though.

[Choco]

Updated with new matches. What the crap, yo?!

[Mailorder]

Jaxx vs. Mailorder Pt. I, II: Nero vs. Mech-Hisui - 10 matches
Jaxx vs. Vmoney: Nero vs. "Equals, dawg" and Red Arcreid - 2 matches
Vmoney vs. Q-Chu: "Equals, dawg"  vs. Red Arcreid - 5 matches

Just watched 'em.  Very nice!  But it's real interesting, because these are probably two weeks old now and yet I can tell Jaxx and I still leveled up.  He doesn't get hit by that last 2C lightsaber in my blockstring anymore.  In fact, last friday.. he was punishing my whiff cancel there with Nero's 4C insect leg.  So then I started mixing up my blockstrings and ending with missiles once in awhile.  Let's UP the game, AZ!  WT5... we're sweepin' it!

Thanks for uploading, Choco!  And hey, where's that vid where you landed that Blood Heat on me?  It's embarasing, but the only way I'll learn is to see it!

[Mailorder]

Thanks to Psyblade, V-Akiha, Tare and Dakanya for giving tips in #SRM!  Biggest thanks to Psyblade for linking the Mech Hisui videos, though!

- Throw someone who shields the maid rush
- Heat someone who blocks the maid rush
- end block strings with whiff cancel -> TK jetpack
- double jetpacks -> rushdown
- use EX bomb on knockdown -> throw or 2a : 50/50
- experiment with staggering 2C
- experiment with 5b-> optic blast as anti IAD
- 2c/throw >> iad j.c -> land 2b / land throw / dj.cb mixup
- after knockdown, TK jetpack for faster recovery
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OzGVj_7BnY @1:10 - fuzzy guard
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEy4eQeo4kU - ex-shield (air), 5a, optic blast, 2c, whip super.  WHAT
- jetpack -> A-missile
- whip super -> 5c, 2b (1 hit) 5b, 2c, a-whip
- a-whip -> j.cb, j.bc, b-jetpack

Mech-Hisui OCV videos (thanks Dakanya!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm7Qa0__BNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWjzF9azd4s

To Choco:
- missing those 2A > 2C > 5C's because he isn't half holding 5C.  5C will whiff like that, as a blockstring (on crouching opponents)
- throw in 214A's in corners.  214A = Godsent Pressure game for Arcueid
- "During the match I saw him connect 5[ b] over head but then instead of going straight into 2B I guess he added a 5A or 2A hit confirm. He shouldnt do this since 5[ B] has plenty of hitstun. 5[ b] already prorates quite a bit so adding another 5a/2a will really kill your damage potential."
- "He shouldn't be really j.2Cing trying to delay time in the air or punish you jumping as a whiff j.2C has way too much recovery time. j.2C however can be used a quick overhead on okizeme, but is punishable."
- "He 2C > 5A whiffs too much with no follow up really. Like a jump in IAD j.C or something"
- "He should try tick throwing more with Arcueid wall slam and j.C dj j.B j.C Air Throw followup. On some characters, if he didnt throw when the character is directly parallel to the corner, you can fit in j.B j.C dj j.B j.C Air Throw, but characters like M.Hisui actually crosses over when you throw them."

[Jaxx]

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ChocoIncognito&p=r
Casual tourney matches from last friday.  Discuss, need critique, and other random shit like that

For me personally, this is strictly aimed towards Arly. 

[Psylocke]

This advice is for Glide, since V-Akiha is the only character that was used in these casuals that I sort of know how to play.

Good job learning V. Akiha, you have her combos down for the most part, and it's good that you're staggering your blockstrings a bit.  However, I did notice that you didn't use her EX Flamepits at all.  I'm guessing this was mainly because you kept messing up V. Akiha's elbow(623B) loop, but yeah, always do TK EX Flamepit after the full loop (228C).

Use air flametongues (236A and B) more!  They are great zoning tools, and alter your air trajectory, so they make your movement more unpredictable.  Low air or tigerknee flametongues are also great, but those are for blockstrings, which are explained below.

Also, your staggered 2A's in blockstrings were good, but you should vary them a bit more.  Most of your blockstrings were some staggered 2A's into 5C4C5A(whiff).  Start incorporating more 5B's, which beat low pokes, 5C's and 2C's, which beat jumpouts, low air flametongues(2368a or 2369a) to beat random pokes, and dash in throws from the blocked 2A's.

EDIT: Lol, thanks for pointing out the error, Choco

Here are some good V. Akiha matches which demonstrate some of these points, hopefully they are helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWRAjNa6a8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THqjcXpjhKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuMHjQyI6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNFqvCdKFTs
And the 12 match set of kubo vs Satoken, on this page and page 2
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kubo0055&p=r&page=3

[Choco]

Also, your staggered 2A's in blockstrings were good, but you should vary them a bit more.  Most of your blockstrings were some staggered 2A's into 5C4C5A(whiff).  Start incorporating more 5B's, which beat low pokes, 5C's and 2C's, which beat jumpouts, low air flametongues(2368a or 2368a) to beat random pokes, and dash in throws from the blocked 2A's.

Hay, you dirty trickster! I see what you did / didn't do there!

[Synthesis]

for TK 236 or 214 moves, I just imput 214789B or something, and they come out very quickly. I get them very low to the ground as well. Mainly use for TK Ice and TK Beam.