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: FREAKISH Denpa match
: asdfqwer July 29, 2008, 04:45:32 PM
http://zoome.jp/game41/diary/77/

A random (not character wise, but teammate wise) 3v3 tournament match.

Pretty uneventful until 10:22 where Denpa comes in.


Short commentary:

10:41  -  FUCK

12:33  -  SHIT



Long commentary:

10:41  -  The Denpa-only infinite combo.

   An Akiha-specific Satsuki combo was found quite a months back, it even might be more than a year ago. It actually had practical value and it caught on like Akiha's whiff combo. However, the string was so freaking hard to connect that after a few months, many people gave up on it on basis that the reward vs consequence was too bad to use it in a real match. The reward to connecting that combo is more damage and meter, but failure to do so meant less damage and no okizeme, which is a killer to Satsuki. There are videos of top-class Satsuki players attempting the combo. None of them had more than a 66% success rate of connecting it.

   Then here comes Denpa. He adds on another series of attacks that require timing to the string, makes it an infinite, performs in on Ciel, and connects the damn thing 5 times in a row in a tournament match. The timings (plural) on the combo string for each character is different. Denpa just busts it out without any planned arrangement that he would play against Ciel.


12:33  -  2a is Denpa's block.

   Denpa's 2a clashes the wake-up EX of Ciel. As great as it would be to think that Denpa actually planned out the clash, that's rather ridiculous as wake-up EXs can be completely random in top-class matches for its almost non-existent use. What's surprising is how Denpa 5c to clash the next hit.

   Now here's the kicker, 5c clashing the second hit of Ciel's 22c would have beaten out the 3rd hit of Ciel's 22c, but that's not good enough for Denpa.

   5c clashing the opponent's attack is known by most Satsuki players (in fact, I know a US player who uses it all the time against me :P) beating whatever that comes next. However, Denpa throws out a 5a, anticipating the commonly used tactic of canceling the second hit of 22c into another EX as the continued motion of the 5c would have made him eat up Ciel's 236c. With the 5a thrown out to whiff cancel, Denpa ex-shields the 236c all 7 times (236c cannot be one-button ex-shielded if canceled into after 22c unlike a normal 236c). After that, connects into a combo.

: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Chun (中) July 29, 2008, 05:33:42 PM
God damn no start-from-middle video encoding.

Any ideas who the others are besides Denpa?

10:41-Round End - ....What the hell was that? Holy shit doesn't even begin to describe what happened there! I knew that vacuum had versatility... but sheesh.

12:33-Match End- ...2A timing Clash Blocking? WHAT IS THIS GUY?

~Chun
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: V-Kattou July 29, 2008, 05:57:39 PM
Ahahaha, honestly, 128 hit Sacchin combo in an actual match?! That's Denpa for you.

Wish there was some live commentating on that
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Soniti July 29, 2008, 09:25:19 PM
:O

Denpa is inhuman  :slowpoke:
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Alfonse July 29, 2008, 09:43:08 PM
Oh my god, god tier Denpa play  :psyduck: My jaw dropped while watching that. I'm totally in awe.

*chips in a dollar for Denpa shrine construction*
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: neo_sabbath July 30, 2008, 05:44:58 AM
awesome .... if i was ciel..i would have just given up ...totally outclassed after that infinite..and if that wasnt good enough...the ex-shield through ex-hiiro pretty much seals the deal...totally outplayed  :slowpoke:

nvr ever challenge denpa !!! :prinny:
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: c-nero 5[c] July 30, 2008, 06:22:59 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvtgU1sSYE youtube ver
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: noradseven July 30, 2008, 08:15:33 AM
holy crap, I can't belive someone pulled that off in a match you have to be perfect on like 80% of those hits, and dempa goes and makes it look easy.
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Alfonse July 30, 2008, 08:53:55 AM
He demoralized the Ciel so badly he dicked around in the second fight and still won.  :psyduck:
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Xavori July 30, 2008, 12:58:52 PM
Ciel didn't even try to reduce damage. XD
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Zaido July 30, 2008, 04:02:02 PM
more like the ciel was mezmorized by denpa that he forgot to mash ? lolz...
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Dragonthorn July 30, 2008, 04:30:52 PM
Denpa's broken...
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: S-Blade July 31, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
i think this ciel is actually motomachi, or at least i remember hearing that in irc

also, what's with the write-up? while this video is pretty hot, it isn't THAT special. the only highlights I saw were 1. ciel 22c wakeup failing because denpa 4-wayed into airbackdash making motomachi unable to cancel into ex knives or hiero, 2. the infinite, which has been known for a long time and been doable by a lot of japanese players (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HBFu4UEESFk), and 3. ciel 22c wakeup being beaten AGAIN by clash into ex hiero, which isn't that special because on clash, 2a5c should probably be reflex for denpa (esp. vs ciel) and 5a could have very well just been an attempt to poke out. shielding after seeing the superflash isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world either. you could put the fault on motomachi for hieroing instead of going ex knives but i wouldn't just because the odds of hiero working were fairly good, especially if he was expecting just 2a5c, denpa would have gotten comboed.

fun match to watch and was pretty good but nothing completely amazing. just a show of very good execution by denpa. there are a lot of crazier matches out there, even by denpa still.
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: Alfonse July 31, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
Denpa makes any match worth hyping about.
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: asdfqwer July 31, 2008, 08:27:22 PM
i think this ciel is actually motomachi, or at least i remember hearing that in irc

also, what's with the write-up? while this video is pretty hot, it isn't THAT special. the only highlights I saw were 1. ciel 22c wakeup failing because denpa 4-wayed into airbackdash making motomachi unable to cancel into ex knives or hiero, 2. the infinite, which has been known for a long time and been doable by a lot of japanese players (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HBFu4UEESFk), and 3. ciel 22c wakeup being beaten AGAIN by clash into ex hiero, which isn't that special because on clash, 2a5c should probably be reflex for denpa (esp. vs ciel) and 5a could have very well just been an attempt to poke out. shielding after seeing the superflash isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world either. you could put the fault on motomachi for hieroing instead of going ex knives but i wouldn't just because the odds of hiero working were fairly good, especially if he was expecting just 2a5c, denpa would have gotten comboed.

fun match to watch and was pretty good but nothing completely amazing. just a show of very good execution by denpa. there are a lot of crazier matches out there, even by denpa still.

Hehe
Yeah, I guess I did overhype it  ;D
But,
 
Denpa makes any match worth hyping about.
: Re: FREAKISH Denpa match
: c-nero 5[c] August 01, 2008, 08:13:27 AM
i think this ciel is actually motomachi, or at least i remember hearing that in irc

also, what's with the write-up? while this video is pretty hot, it isn't THAT special. the only highlights I saw were 1. ciel 22c wakeup failing because denpa 4-wayed into airbackdash making motomachi unable to cancel into ex knives or hiero, 2. the infinite, which has been known for a long time and been doable by a lot of japanese players (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HBFu4UEESFk), and 3. ciel 22c wakeup being beaten AGAIN by clash into ex hiero, which isn't that special because on clash, 2a5c should probably be reflex for denpa (esp. vs ciel) and 5a could have very well just been an attempt to poke out. shielding after seeing the superflash isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world either. you could put the fault on motomachi for hieroing instead of going ex knives but i wouldn't just because the odds of hiero working were fairly good, especially if he was expecting just 2a5c, denpa would have gotten comboed.

fun match to watch and was pretty good but nothing completely amazing. just a show of very good execution by denpa. there are a lot of crazier matches out there, even by denpa still.

First of all, this is without doubt the first time a Satsuki player has done that many reps of the infinite. That alone is interesting. The clash stuff is fairly good, even if it is standard high-level satsuki play, noone here is anywhere near that level of play so it's still very interesting to watch for anyone who hasn't seen it before.