Money Match - Choco vs hdphnz

[IamtehSEX]

I don't even know where to begin with this >.< You guys need to learn your full BNBs lol. That, and neither of you are abusing satsuki's really aggressive stuff. Needs more sj/iad jc, and 2c(1hit)5a. 214a jump cancel is decent, but that isn't what makes satsuki oppressive, you just need to constantly be riding your opponent's face trying to hit a combo of a crossup jc or an empty > low. Can't stress enough how important the airthrow is at the end of your combos is though guys. Can't reset your pressure if you can't thit that shit :/

I'll MM any one from Cali at Evo

you gotta give these guys some credit here.  i mean you may see some dope shit comin from japan, but this is the states, where practically everyone is a noob.  theyre tryin to get this shit down, but it doesn't come out exactly how they want to and without experience against seasoned vets, people here can only progress so fast. i think theyre doin pretty good for however long each has been playing. 

[COD3player]

I kinda agree but at the same time I think there were more botched combos than there should have been. Get those combos down you two.

[Hintalove]

I was just trying to help, it's not like I said they were hopeless or anything. I guess the best way to describe what I'm trying to say about those satsukis is that, sure, you guys are playing melty. Sure, you are getting into your combos. You aren't playing your characters though, and that's what will help you almost as much as being able to do a BnB. Then again, the only way to really learn that stuff is through sheer play. You can't learn how to pressure consistantly by watching match vids or in training mode, you can only learn that shit in the arcade(or basement, in the case of America, lolz).

tl;dr peeps: Satsuki is a rushdown character. Rush that shit down.

2c5c623b5b623c2c5c jump airthrow is the combo you should be aiming for.

[Light]

I was just trying to help, it's not like I said they were hopeless or anything. I guess the best way to describe what I'm trying to say about those satsukis is that, sure, you guys are playing melty. Sure, you are getting into your combos. You aren't playing your characters though, and that's what will help you almost as much as being able to do a BnB. Then again, the only way to really learn that stuff is through sheer play. You can't learn how to pressure consistantly by watching match vids or in training mode, you can only learn that shit in the arcade(or basement, in the case of America, lolz).

tl;dr peeps: Satsuki is a rushdown character. Rush that shit down.

2c5c623b5b623c2c5c jump airthrow is the combo you should be aiming for.

Are you sure about that? I've only watched the first match and it seems like they were doing the right combos. If only they didn't drop em' so much, which I don't blame them at all for. As for the combo you listed, are you also sure about that as well? There's already discussion about that combo not being as good as the 214C wallslam one since it doesn't scale so bad like 632C.

And no offense to you, but a quite a few of your posts come off like your bash us here, it's kinda of been pissing me off lately. Honestly, I don't think anyone here needs a reality check because everyone here is on the same page. We all know how bad the scene is here and what the skill level is at, and honestly right now that can't be helped in the short run, so I don't find your constant jabs at us amusing. Just because your in Japan doesn't mean shit. Reading your posts, I doubt that you have the kind of drive or intellect to take advantage of that kind of learning environment, so I'm willing to bet that you fucking suck too, or at least enough to lose to scrubs here. I barely play this game and had human competition for it, and that's how confident I am about your skill level. Maybe I'm dead wrong about everything, but I'm willing to bet it, so how about it? Since your saying that your going to EVO world, I'm willing to money match you for $50 USD.

[juniorSantos]

hahaha! finally someone speaks up

you theory fighters need to chill out. some of us havent been playing the game for that long.

i know youre trying to help, but how about not sounding like an asshole while doing it. much props to people  like zaido, sleepy, and lina that have personally helped me and others in a respectable manner

[Choco]

I do agree with Clear Sky that yeah, we DO know the right combos. But Hinta, you already know about the conditions of that match Especially mine. When I start a combo and don't finish it, it's because of jerky and delayed movements on my stick due to lack of sleep and head pressure. This won't come into play next time, I believe. I'm going to standardize my play surface and not play with the stick in my lap anymore. Oh, and sleep.

This match video is already old as fuck, too. Come on, Santoast... give us a raw version of the videos while you edit them to be all spiffy! I'll even host mirrors for them on my own hosting account.

DRAMA! That I don't necessarily agree with, but YEAH. DRAMA. CLEAR SKYY VODKA VS. HINTALUV

[juniorSantos]

haha what do you mean this match video is old? i posted it 6 days after it happened

and no im not gonna upload raw footage, that will take even more time for me! you know the deal with capturing, encoding, then uploading. it takes forever

basically i have three 90 minute tapes from WT3 to edit, give me a break Choco 

[Choco]

We're just all anxious to see how bad we did against Arly, you know? Even though I didn't even get to play him

And by old, I mean it doesn't show our true potential. I'm sure about this on my side, and I think hdphnz could have owned harder, too.

[IamtehSEX]

Hintalove:  I'm sure you were just giving out some helpful advice, but then you talk as if everyone here has been playing for years and has their characters down to a T.  i can only speak for the interface crew, but we've only been playing for a few months, so our game isn't up to par with what you're used to seeing.. you need to give the people here some slack.  like i said before, we dont have the vast resources like you do over there and we dont have that kind of competition that we can learn off of first hand.

[F9|Chibi]

I'm not exactly in agreeance with HintaLove (because he rubs me the wrong way as well), and this is personally my opinion on the matter but really now, if you guys have been playing the game for only a few months now, and you KNOW other factors are going to fuck you up during the match (lack of sleep, condition of the stick, etc) should you really be running money matches?

I'm not demeaning either of you at all in any way when I say that either, but it's a bit early for you guys to be dropping money down on the game when you haven't gotten Sacchin's BnB down yet. I could see the MM as an incentive to further enjoyment of the game / get better, yes, but turn yourselves into beasts before you start throwing money around.

That being said, Choco, you better kick HDP's ass next time.

And also <3 to Clear Sky.

[Synthesis]

EDIT: Deleted post due to harshness. 

[F9|Chibi]

Right..

How's that basement training treating you?

LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz

[IamtehSEX]

I do agree with Clear Sky that yeah, we DO know the right combos. But Hinta, you already know about the conditions of that match Especially mine. When I start a combo and don't finish it, it's because of jerky and delayed movements on my stick due to lack of sleep and head pressure. This won't come into play next time, I believe. I'm going to standardize my play surface and not play with the stick in my lap anymore. Oh, and sleep.

This match video is already old as fuck, too. Come on, Santoast... give us a raw version of the videos while you edit them to be all spiffy! I'll even host mirrors for them on my own hosting account.

DRAMA! That I don't necessarily agree with, but YEAH. DRAMA. CLEAR SKYY VODKA VS. HINTALUV

man.. you need shut the fuck up.  jr.santos has other shit to do then just work on the fuckin videos.  its his camera, hes putting the work into it, he releases what he wants, when he wants.  if you want them that bad, video tape that shit yourself.  and enough with the excuses, you lost because hdp was better.

[F9|Chibi]

<3 <3 <3 <3

[THIS IS LEO]

someone should actually develop a game called theory fighter

[juniorSantos]

Chibi: i understand what youre saying but in the end Money Matches are just a lot of fun. I dont see why it would be too early to have fun 

[F9|Chibi]

Chibi: i understand what youre saying but in the end Money Matches are just a lot of fun. I dont see why it would be too early to have fun 

I agree they're fun, but when you aren't maximizing your potential then it isn't as fun as it could be. Money matches are usually where people shine most, or even take a game seriously at all, but again I'm not aiming to put either of the players down. Can't wait to see either of them as beasts.

[juniorSantos]

okay based on your reasoning and the standard you are setting for us i guess we shouldnt record anything at all. we arent good enough yet, huh?

if we shouldnt run money matches, do we have your permission to run West Toast?

[Hintalove]

I was just trying to help, it's not like I said they were hopeless or anything. I guess the best way to describe what I'm trying to say about those satsukis is that, sure, you guys are playing melty. Sure, you are getting into your combos. You aren't playing your characters though, and that's what will help you almost as much as being able to do a BnB. Then again, the only way to really learn that stuff is through sheer play. You can't learn how to pressure consistantly by watching match vids or in training mode, you can only learn that shit in the arcade(or basement, in the case of America, lolz).

tl;dr peeps: Satsuki is a rushdown character. Rush that shit down.

2c5c623b5b623c2c5c jump airthrow is the combo you should be aiming for.

Are you sure about that? I've only watched the first match and it seems like they were doing the right combos. If only they didn't drop em' so much, which I don't blame them at all for. As for the combo you listed, are you also sure about that as well? There's already discussion about that combo not being as good as the 214C wallslam one since it doesn't scale so bad like 632C.

And no offense to you, but a quite a few of your posts come off like your bash us here, it's kinda of been pissing me off lately. Honestly, I don't think anyone here needs a reality check because everyone here is on the same page. We all know how bad the scene is here and what the skill level is at, and honestly right now that can't be helped in the short run, so I don't find your constant jabs at us amusing. Just because your in Japan doesn't mean shit. Reading your posts, I doubt that you have the kind of drive or intellect to take advantage of that kind of learning environment, so I'm willing to bet that you fucking suck too, or at least enough to lose to scrubs here. I barely play this game and had human competition for it, and that's how confident I am about your skill level. Maybe I'm dead wrong about everything, but I'm willing to bet it, so how about it? Since your saying that your going to EVO world, I'm willing to money match you for $50 USD.

Sure I'll MM you at Evo, I already said I would play any Cali guy that wanted to. I don't get it though, I give my thoughts on the matches, freaking sugar coat it, and still get yelled at. What should I have said? Awesome MM dudez, keep up the good work? If you didn't want feedback, the vid shouldn't have been posted, lol.

As for the combo, who cares if there is a better one. The one I transcribed is the *easiest* acceptable bnb for her. It's kind of the combo they were going for, but wth a little randomness sprinkled around.

In any case, I find the personal attack a bit harsh. You can think what you want though, just like I'll think what I want. I'm not going to lie, I get a good lol out of the fact that Chibi can't do fiona's bnb. Posts like yours just add more lols to the pile. If theres some random scrub in Cali that wants to help with my gas money, I will be more than willing to accept the help.

[IamtehSEX]

someone should actually develop a game called theory fighter

that would be sick.  "i CAN do 456C-142B-895AD-super combo max-finisher-airthrow FTW;"  "but i'll counter that with 236B-22C-789-D-DDR supreme max tune-airthrow"  I'll talk to my friends at midway to see if we can get this thing going

[F9|Chibi]

I'm not setting a standard on anything, you've seen how I play, I drop plenty of shit, I play like roadkill, and 9/10 I'm giving my opponent (in the cases that they know better) a free win. You can record whatever you want, and you can hold whatever you want, but if you've got the confidence to run a money match, you should at least have a semblance of gameplay to back it up.

If you want me to be blunt however, then I will. At this point you guys should AT LEAST be able to air throw at the end your BnB's, or be doing something that resembles a BnB (which you are). A month is more then enough time to gain the muscle memory for such a thing, right?

I get a good lol out of the fact that Chibi can't do fiona's bnb.

Bite me. You get access to these games just being going to the damn bathroom. I have to chuck two hours out of my day just to get to AH, and even then I only get to do so every other week on a Saturday, and STILL when I get there the cabinet is swamped and I'm not able to just sit and practice the damn thing. The iad's are different then MB and GG, the speed is different, HC is different, and the last time I had the chance to practice execution in that game was the week the damn game came out.

Also why only challenge Cali people to MM's? EC gets no love?

[IamtehSEX]

i got something here that'll end everyone's bickering. 

everyone sucks...  everyones opinion doesn't matter so fuck off. 
i bid you all a good day

close and lock please

[F9|Chibi]

You have too many magic circuits.

 

[IamtehSEX]

yeah.. even i cant understand that one

[Hintalove]

Yeah, IAD in arcana is way off form like, anyother game. I understand if you have trouble with it, as I did for a bit too, until I figured it out. I just have to do it really deliberately and slowlike and it comes out all the time.As for me playing more than you, that is debateable. I've probably put about 500-1000en only into the game, so I really haven't played all that much, the combos are just very easy/free in my opinion, comming from games like Melty and GG.

I'll MM EC people too, I don't care. The point I was trying to make is that I am confident enough to think I could beat any one in Cali to 10 matches. I don't have the same kind of confidence with Zar/Sp00k/Vet, but I would still be up for some do-or-die stuff vs them I think I'm gonna be playing a lot of GG MM's though trying to get my name out though. Jam is slowly encroaching into the place in my heart for the delicous flat chest.