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Misaki Town Bakery => Kohaku's Video Room => : Arlieth Tralare March 25, 2007, 03:00:04 AM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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Video is being postponed until further notice. But it's coming!
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No streaming this time eh ?
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JuniorSantos thanks for all the hard work. I just downloaded... I cant fast forward =(
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yeah mason had the same problem with fast forwarding..
sorry im new to all this video stuff, so im still trying to figure everything out. im trying to make it stream on that divx site again, but when i encode it drops a bunch of video frames so the audio sync gets all messed up.
future videos will be put up faster/be of better quality when i start to get an effecient system going.
school/work is also holding me back. i want it to be summer vacation already
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All I have to say about that vid is wait till West Toast #2.
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ill watch it at work later today
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Hmm it looks like you encoded using an old version of WMV?
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no fast forward+one single compilation ftl :(
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damn.. takes me a while to dl...
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forgot about that you can't skip ahead :(
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Hey, we're getting a freeze error at the 30:00 mark on the video. Everyone please wait for a later encode.
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VLC closes the video at that point... but at least VLC can fast forward/rewind through the other parts.
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maybe you guys in the near future can make the videos into seperate clips :o...
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yeah mason had the same problem with fast forwarding..
sorry im new to all this video stuff, so im still trying to figure everything out. im trying to make it stream on that divx site again, but when i encode it drops a bunch of video frames so the audio sync gets all messed up.
future videos will be put up faster/be of better quality when i start to get an effecient system going.
school/work is also holding me back. i want it to be summer vacation already
no excuses santos... we all have our problems, we just gotta deal with whats in front of us. do things correctly or dont do it at all. this no fast forward thing is unacceptable. please refrain from allowing this to happen in future projects.
as for separate clips.. we dont do that here in socal. it wouldnt be dramatic that way. and like the TNT channel, were all about the drama... unless you wanna do the editing for us, then be my guest. but as far as the videos go, jr.santos is doing a kickass job, tho he is a ubernoob... at mb.. at video editing.. and at life. hey.. at least we dont have any of that annoying ass talking that the camera mic picks up in other vids.. some people say dumbest crap... thats right.. you guys know who im talking about. geez, plug the mic up or something.
ha ha! being a dick FTW!!!! Drama FTW!!! Ubernoob FT.......L!!!!!!
DISCLAIMER: if you take this seriously, you are a moron! But I'm serious about jr.santos being a ubernoob
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no fast forward+one single compilation ftl :(
We're all used to the denjin video format. Do you mean you wouldnt want to see a single compilation even if there was fast forward? I personally think seperate clips are boring.
And like I said I'm still trying to figure things out. Calm down people. I dont think everyone realizes how much time and energy it takes to consistently put up videos for you guys to enjoy. I now know how it is for the denjinvideo staff.(not talking to you IF crew)
So thanks XAQ i appreciate the FTL after putting hours and hours into this.
anyways better version up soon!! ;D
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JuniorSantos dont worry man. Your doing fine, keep up the hard work, just ignore flamers.... They should be appreciative someone is even taking the time (hours) to work on this shit...
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All I have to say about that vid is wait till West Toast #2.
what do you mean by that?
Hmm it looks like you encoded using an old version of WMV?
I like the latest ranbat vid. Im gonna ask gootecks what he used. We would be able to have it for dl/stream on the frontpage.
..thanks a lot mark.
and khiem too. even though i dont like you >:(
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no fast forward+one single compilation ftl :(
We're all used to the denjin video format. Do you mean you wouldnt want to see a single compilation even if there was fast forward? I personally think seperate clips are boring.
And like I said I'm still trying to figure things out. Calm down people. I dont think everyone realizes how much time and energy it takes to consistently put up videos for you guys to enjoy. I now know how it is for the denjinvideo staff.(not talking to you IF crew)
So thanks XAQ i appreciate the FTL after putting hours and hours into this.
anyways better version up soon!! ;D
my fault, i didnt mean to sound unappreciative. good shyt on gettin the vids out.
i wouldnt mind the compilation if it had fast forward/rewind. keep up teh good work
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all is good my east coast friend
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All I have to say about that vid is wait till West Toast #2.
what do you mean by that?
bell wants vids up that feature him not being a crappy Ren.
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Or Bell wants KOUMA DUNKZ on his next video. :V
Gootecks and I use Vegas 6.0's encoding feature. I might install Vegas on the computer here at IF, and I can burn you a copy. What program do you use currently?
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Adobe Premier Pro
its old
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well you know what jr.santos?!?! i like you... haha.. you thought i was gonna say that the feeling is mutual or something like that huh? and i was.. but then i decided to throw you off... but in reality, i dont like you. and i like you cause you much misery. much much misery...
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Santos: I have AP6 at Interface for you to pick up.
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Random side note: I find it hard to believe that everything here is related the term "bread" :mystery:
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Santos: Looks like a good portion of West Toast made it to the FTP but it appears to be cut off before finals. Was this intentional?
Also, sound appears to be slightly offsync in the Arly vs Bell match. What's your computer specs, and have you defragged your HD? That usually helps with the little micro-breaks during encoding.
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i remember talkin with bsan and he said his compy was several years old.
also a few days ago when he was on comp 23 here at IF he said his specs are close to that
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Computer 23 isn't too old.
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i know that but thats what he told me.
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no it shouldnt have cut off. i started the upload then went to work, so im not sure what happened. gah this is getting frustrating, it takes like 4 hours for each step and its not working out..
the audio sync goes off for a bit towards the end, but is fine during the finals. that problem was from video capturing from camcorder to computer. encoding should be fine. hows the quality of the video other than that?
but yeah my computer is a few years old. only has 512 memory :-\
i get home at 9. so ill try to fix it then
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Video quality is good, no complaints about that.
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Has this been updated? I see 404 when i click on the link
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not yet. i uploaded the new version today, but it got cut off at the end..
i have to re upload it when i get home from work tonight
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http://www.meltybread.com/juniorsantos/Interface_03-15-07_west-toast-1-finals.avi
Hmm. Looks good, the encode went well.
However, the size is a whopping 588mb. Keep this up and I'm going to have to upgrade my hosting :psyduck: so I suggest the following:
size: 320x240
bitrate: 600kbps video, 64kbps mono audio. It looks like you had 192kbps stereo, so you were using 3x-6x more bandwidth than necessary for audio.
640x480 = 307,200 pixels
320x240 = 76,800 pixels (1/4th the size)
Using a divx bitrate calculatorbrute force mathematics, you can achieve 511kbps encoding rate and get a 350mb file to cover the entire west toast tournament, making your file 41% smaller than its current state. 511kbps looks really bad at 640x480, but is smooth as butter at 320x240. Try it out and see how it works.
Calculations:
File Size: 588mb = 588*1024^2=616562688 bytes
File Length: 83.7 minutes * 60 = 5022 seconds
616562688/5022 = 122722 bytes per second, or 120 kilobytes per second
However, kbps stands for kiloBITS, and 8 bits = 1 byte. so, 122722*8 = 981776 bits per second, or 958kbps.
Subtract 192kbps for your stereo music, and that leaves us with 766kbps for the video.
64kbps sound, and 500kbps video (at 320x240, which is 1/4th the size) = 564kbps total bandwidth, or 58% of its original size.
Divide 564kbps by 8 for 70.5 kilobytes per second. 70.5 * 5022 seconds = 345mb.
If we want to be really aggressive, we can cut it down to 200 kbps for video for a 164mb file, or 264kbps for a 200mb file.
We've learned in the past that Marvel vs Capcom 2 videos usually have to be around 600kbps to capture the action because there's so much crap flying on the screen, but 3rd Strike videos can handle much lower bandwidth. I'm not sure about Melty Blood, yet, so some experimenting may be in order. I also know encoding these takes forever and a half, but if you take care of all the tedious experimenting and learning now, it saves you a lot of time in the long run.
Also, how much RAM do you have in your system? We could get you an upgrade for that, and that might help with the audio/video sync issues.
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no it shouldnt have cut off. i started the upload then went to work, so im not sure what happened. gah this is getting frustrating, it takes like 4 hours for each step and its not working out..
the audio sync goes off for a bit towards the end, but is fine during the finals. that problem was from video capturing from camcorder to computer. encoding should be fine. hows the quality of the video other than that?
but yeah my computer is a few years old. only has 512 memory :-\
i get home at 9. so ill try to fix it then
from this post i'm pretty sure he has 512
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512!?!?!?! were in the 2 gb age my friend. time to upgrade you brainmatter cuz one day it may matter
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hey man dont make fun of my 4 year old Dell PC. We got this for Christmas :V
thanks Tom ill try all that out tonight
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haha....use your bros laptop
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Tom you should edit the first post in this thread with the new link to the vid. Or just make a new thread for the vid's sake.
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I'm gonna wait till santos uploads the new video first, he needs to do some more work on it because the lower quality resolution makes the fonts unreadable. Once that's finished, i'll put a new link up. But in the meantime, i should edit that first post anyhow. I'll do that now, thanks.
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No one cares but I ripped my own matches to watch and study and put them up on youtube for the hell of it. :V
vs Hdphnz 1st Round
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyceBY6jSMY
vs UselessTool Winner's Quarterfinal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcmWLnXNMB0
vs Bellreisa Loser's Semi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KHhNoqWK4
vs UselessTool Loser's final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_bFv0B4Tc
Edit: I put up vs arly and vs zantua too. Just dig around in the west toast playlist and you should find them.
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thx lil. now i dont have to sit through a 4 hour dl for now...
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Thanks for ripping some of the matches, because I haven't seen them all (VLC player closes after around 30 minutes of playing). Did JuniorSantos fix that already?
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im getting around to it. ive just had work these past few days..
im trying to get it down now so for west toast 2, it'll be up quicker
edit: i forgot, theres a link up there that is updated. its just a really big file..
we're working on getting it smaller while trying to maintain the quality
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we need those west toast 1 videos cuz you will be workin on west toast 2 in 4-5 days.
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Just posting to say, great job Santos on the vid. Quality was awesome, the added text(like player names and the tournament round) were really helpful, and that intro was just beautiful, totally in sync with the music. Keep up the good work
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thanks man i really appreciate it. im still working on getting a smaller download for you guys. ill also put vids on google video to stream..
west toast 2 is coming up ;D
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512!?!?!?! were in the 2 gb age my friend. time to upgrade you brainmatter cuz one day it may matter
lawl at deltron
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deltron 3030? woo i didnt even notice
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tsk tsk bryan... mason 1 bryan 0