When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?

Author Topic: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion (New OTG and Ciel only combos!)  (Read 47383 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2007, 06:39:30 AM »
Satoken is insane...

The nero player must have been so demoralized.

Offline Lord Knight

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 606
  • Magic Circuits: 71
  • Without love, it is lost
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2007, 07:23:49 AM »
Clutch is from my area, we say it a lot. It's pretty much something that's too good and very needed as far as fighting games go.
Keep climbin', gotta get to the top

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2007, 10:47:04 AM »
Hmm.. 5A guardbreaks j.block right? What does j.B guardbreak?

Offline asuka

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2007, 02:59:21 PM »
I thought it is jc that guard break j guard. Jb guard break crouch guard i think.

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2007, 06:22:45 AM »
Whats the secret to whiff canceling (especially on blockstrings)? I see everyone do it so easily, but for some reason, its not intuitive for me arghh! need help!

Offline Animeruko

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 226
  • Magic Circuits: 7
  • Because its MOE~ MOE~!
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2007, 09:53:34 PM »
Doing it is easy getting used to doing it on the other heand is alittle less easy lol ... for starters just 2c 5a  after but make sure your at a range where 2c hits and 5a wont  or in blockstrings do any B or C attakc then 5a or 2a whiff you'll get used to it eventually

Offline Lord Knight

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 606
  • Magic Circuits: 71
  • Without love, it is lost
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2007, 09:51:03 PM »
Sorry, I guess I was unclear. What I meant was jB is very helpful in guardbreak. Throw out a couple of jA's, then jB when you are near the groud. You will land before your opponent and will be able to guardbreak them with 5A or 5C. I use it here.

Granted game 1 I played a bit scrubbish. . . but it's a solid example of a lot of the tactics used in play.
Keep climbin', gotta get to the top

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2007, 02:54:14 AM »
Hmm I was wondering, can Ciel EX Hiero out of 623B > EX Flame Pit loop? As in, I set up the pit, and the proceed to continue pressure, but Ciel can wakeup EX right?

Offline asuka

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2007, 06:30:06 AM »
Yes, I think ciel can get out of that easily if she has the guage. Try to vary your block string and try to guess when the EX is coming.

Offline magz

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 486
  • Magic Circuits: 18
  • An Genuflecting Hero
    • View Profile
    • FrozenHeat
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2007, 07:09:30 AM »
Hmm I was wondering, can Ciel EX Hiero out of 623B > EX Flame Pit loop? As in, I set up the pit, and the proceed to continue pressure, but Ciel can wakeup EX right?
If you do it right, you can setup pit and dash in before ciel wakes up. If you notice she is doing wakeup hiero you can bait it by dashing in and doing nothing or dashing in with 2A canceling into shield on reaction to EX hiero.
"Accent Core is perfection. It's like the concept of freedom captured into a videogame."

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2007, 10:59:25 AM »
For the Vakiha veterans, I have a question regarding IAD mixups..

It is impossible to input an attack immediately after an IAD right, ie I have to wait for a few frames before I can throw out a j.C etc?
I've been practicing my IADs, but it seems I get very inconsistent attacks after the IAD, sometimes I'm able to throw a j.C almost immediately, sometimes the j.C only executes at the end of the air dash.. What's the trick?

Also, for some reason I can't seem to be able to do the IAD j.A airdash j.C, I always end up landing after the j.A. Is this because I'm inputting the dash after j.A too late?

One last thing, when should I be using j.B? Only when the opponent is in the air?
« Last Edit: October 29, 2007, 01:03:39 PM by kasuya »

Offline Rei

  • America's Worst Ryougi
  • Magus
  • *****
  • Posts: 1161
  • Magic Circuits: 309
  • <3
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2007, 02:41:34 PM »
I'm not a "veteran," but I've had LK training. I know a bit about her gameplay, I'll answer what I can.

After an IAD, yes, there is a delay before you can attack. Though after a jump you can spam jA <_<;.

Anyway, you have to input the dash extremely quickly after they block your jA.

As for jB. You can use it to get behind your opponents, hit them right before you land so you have less frame lag between comboing and you should use it when your enemy is in the air, don't spam it though.
<@sibladeko> lack of close buttons is poverty
<@sibladeko> means the police can't use secret elevator codes to save us
<Darcius> poor people not worth savin
<@SilentShinobi> the double down is the black man's lethal kryptonite

Offline Lord Knight

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 606
  • Magic Circuits: 71
  • Without love, it is lost
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #62 on: November 01, 2007, 04:47:43 PM »
Rei pretty much touched on everything. More on jB though. The jB mixup is kinda like Sacchin's superjump mixups. First, you have to be center screen - Vakiha has a lot better options in the corner. Basically, if you decide to use a BnB, you land quite far from the opponent. Depending on how quickly you did the BnB you can land infront or behind them. You can also choose to just hit them.
Keep climbin', gotta get to the top

Offline asuka

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2007, 09:42:34 PM »
Just want to ask how do air combo off random hits in the air? Like after V akiha's ja or jb? And is it feasible to do tk flametounge on the keyboard?
i always find it hard to use and tend to avoid it. The game always read my input as a super jump instead of tk flametounge. T-T Some advice would be nice. Is it advisable to rush in with 5c? since it can hit opponents in the air and it seems to have quite a high priority?

Offline Lord Knight

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 606
  • Magic Circuits: 71
  • Without love, it is lost
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2007, 09:57:00 PM »
Random CH options:

jA/B land 2C to BNB - works anywhere

jA/B land [2C 623B x3] 282C - works in the corner

jA/B land 2C 5C IAD jB land jB jB jC - works midscreen

jB land jB airdash jB jump jB jC - works anywhere.

jA 282 C - works in corner when your jA is too low to get them.

I don't know about keyboard stuff since I don't use it, sorry. >.>

5C is good if you're anticipating them to jump.
Keep climbin', gotta get to the top

Offline magz

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 486
  • Magic Circuits: 18
  • An Genuflecting Hero
    • View Profile
    • FrozenHeat
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2007, 10:04:57 PM »
Dakanya/yau, a former keyboard crusher, should be able to assist you in TK flametongues on keyboard.
"Accent Core is perfection. It's like the concept of freedom captured into a videogame."

Offline asuka

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2007, 10:36:12 PM »
So you guys are all playing using stick on pc? Is it expensive to get a stick?

Offline magz

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 486
  • Magic Circuits: 18
  • An Genuflecting Hero
    • View Profile
    • FrozenHeat
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2007, 02:05:09 AM »
So you guys are all playing using stick on pc? Is it expensive to get a stick?
You can pick up an HRAP3 for about 89-120 depending on where you are located.
"Accent Core is perfection. It's like the concept of freedom captured into a videogame."

Offline Dracover

  • Apprentice
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2007, 08:01:49 PM »
Also, for some reason I can't seem to be able to do the IAD j.A airdash j.C, I always end up landing after the j.A. Is this because I'm inputting the dash after j.A too late?

One last thing, when should I be using j.B? Only when the opponent is in the air?


thats a question u should ask a nub like myself cause onli nubs try to find easy ways to do things.
the way i do it is instead of ja i do j 6a then 6 again gets u a dash =D hope it helps and much easier imho

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2007, 01:33:14 AM »
Cool, that seems to work too, how about IADs, whats your "easy" way to input IADs :P

I'm playing on stick, so 96 doesn't cut it, I have to do a 6956 in order to IAD, wondering if there are easier ways around it

Offline magz

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 486
  • Magic Circuits: 18
  • An Genuflecting Hero
    • View Profile
    • FrozenHeat
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2007, 01:44:11 AM »
Cool, that seems to work too, how about IADs, whats your "easy" way to input IADs :P

I'm playing on stick, so 96 doesn't cut it, I have to do a 6956 in order to IAD, wondering if there are easier ways around it
On stick, I use A+B+Direction. I find that it gives you the most control of your airdash although it has a small chance for error every now and then >_>
"Accent Core is perfection. It's like the concept of freedom captured into a videogame."

Offline Dracover

  • Apprentice
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2007, 05:23:13 PM »
i do a 686 so kind like a dp if i were upside down. but not 100% for me like the other one more like 70% betta then 96 i suppose.

Offline Lord Knight

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 606
  • Magic Circuits: 71
  • Without love, it is lost
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2007, 09:37:54 PM »
I JUST STARTED PLAYING STICK AT MY ARCADE GUYZ.

So liek, I use 6AB and stuff. Works fine. I've tried 676 too with great success.
Keep climbin', gotta get to the top

Offline kasuya

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2007, 07:20:28 AM »
argh, I cant get used to using direction A+B. oh well i'll just use whats most comfortable for me.

btw, for my BNB, if I use j.ab dj.bc instead of j.ab dj.abc, will I have a harder time following up with an OTG combo? (because victim hits the ground earlier in the first case?)

I suck at doing dj.abc, maybe its because i do the j.ab too early (ie, victim slightly above me when i hit)

Offline magz

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 486
  • Magic Circuits: 18
  • An Genuflecting Hero
    • View Profile
    • FrozenHeat
Re: Advanced Akiha V. Combos/Tactics Discussion
« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2007, 05:33:38 PM »
argh, I cant get used to using direction A+B. oh well i'll just use whats most comfortable for me.

btw, for my BNB, if I use j.ab dj.bc instead of j.ab dj.abc, will I have a harder time following up with an OTG combo? (because victim hits the ground earlier in the first case?)

I suck at doing dj.abc, maybe its because i do the j.ab too early (ie, victim slightly above me when i hit)
After hitting 2C and before 5BB, pause a little bit. When jumping up to attack your opponent, wait until the very last moment to do the initial j.AB. As soon as possible, cancel the j.B to dj.ABC and do this in rapid succession for a higher success rate.

There shouldn't be much of a difference in OTG combo after the dj.C in regards to whether or not you did dj.BC or the full j.ABC.

If ever you feel you can't do dj.ABC due to height or whatever, just throw out dj.BC or even dj.C/j.Air Throw/dj.Air Throw if all else fails.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 05:35:48 PM by magz »
"Accent Core is perfection. It's like the concept of freedom captured into a videogame."