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MBAC: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« on: September 02, 2008, 10:00:35 AM »
while in japan, i played against a kouma who did a charge C, and kara'd it into the grab Arc-Drive.

actually he did it more than once at the end of block string, and i couldnt get out of it.

anyone know how to do this?
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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 01:05:09 PM »
you sure it wasn't 236a into arc drive?

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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 02:27:28 PM »
Could it be that you mistook a 214b as charge c and 236c finisher as the arc drive?

If not, I would really like to know how a charge c can link into the arc drive also.


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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 04:32:05 PM »
214b into 236c finisher? not that, it not the same animation, and he did it twice.

it was charge C, and before the C landed (not fully charged), canceled into arc drive.

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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 10:10:22 PM »
You can link Charge C into arc drive, but the idea is whiffing one and still able to cancel into Arc Drive.

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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 11:21:22 PM »
No clue! To my knowledge, 5c 5[c] and 5[c} are all not super cancelable on whiff or during the animation. Your opponent must have applied an additional trick somewhere or there' something about the engine or Kouma that I'm not aware of at the moment. Maybe you were playing Version B7. :psyduck:
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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 12:01:57 AM »
You can link Charge C into arc drive, but the idea is whiffing one and still able to cancel into Arc Drive.

No you can't.  Arc drive is completely uncomboable. 

As for whiff canceling, I have no idea.  I looked at 5[c] in training mode, it has a full green bar in the middle (about where the dividing line between charged and uncharged 5c is) but there's no right side orange bar representing super cancel.  It looks like PC version can't do it at least. 
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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 12:14:47 AM »
too bad i couldnt ask, me being a foreigner and all...

are there other tricks to landing the grab AC?

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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 01:19:07 AM »

As for whiff canceling, I have no idea.  I looked at 5[c] in training mode, it has a full green bar in the middle (about where the dividing line between charged and uncharged 5c is) but there's no right side orange bar representing super cancel.  It looks like PC version can't do it at least. 

Well, the status bar isn't infallible, after all it doesn't denote the special cancelable hitstop in bunker cancels... But either way for this case.... :mystery: At least until I seen it done in a video or something. But yeah there are some things you can do in arcade that you can't do on PC with Kouma (to my knowledge). I.E 214a/b xx 236c xx 5c 2b.
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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 11:08:18 AM »
well like i said 5C was an empty cancel, no "lengthy block string"

besides if he 5C, i would have bara'd.

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Re: unblockable Kouma Arc-drive
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 08:44:48 AM »
yeah sounds like some hella weird arcade version shenanigans

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