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: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Irysa February 06, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
Is it possible that the community could approach Sega/Ecole and ask them about potentially funding players traveling to Evo? On the basis that it this is probably the best possible opportunity they have to market the game to America, and also because they've been out of the loop with SBO for 2 years now?

It sounds kind of farfetched but it's a possibility I would hope.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 06, 2010, 11:20:32 AM
Something along those lines, I was thinking if a major arcade held some sort of tourney, and the top 5 or so win funds (that we fund raise or sega/ecole subsidize) to come over here and play... I have no idea how that would actually work or how to do it though.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Tempered February 06, 2010, 12:44:55 PM
well we need to actally let jp know that evo will be hosting MB as a main event.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: LoliSauce February 06, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
well we need to actally let jp know that evo will be hosting MB as a main event.
Curbeh is already on that, from what I understand.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Rei February 07, 2010, 12:51:49 AM
Though someone needs to contact the actual company.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: LoliSauce February 07, 2010, 04:28:01 AM
Though someone needs to contact the actual company.
Ask someone like curbeh who can actually communicate in jap.  I dunno if we'll get any sort of positive response (or any response at all for that matter), but it's still worth a try.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Irysa February 07, 2010, 07:17:12 AM
Maybe it would be easier to talk to SEGA of America and ask them to introduce the idea to the Japan side of the company? I mean technically it's their market this would be affecting.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 07, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
I was talking to teruta today and learned the follow:

Other:
Zar is talking with JefferyManson.
We all know about CL by now and will be trying to get him over.

I definitely need to talk to Arly to find out how funding would work so that I can tell them. Since I'm sure thinking that we can pay off a couple of round-trips from Japan is not realistic, at all (Melty Ballers?).

This is were that sponsoring idea Irysa was talking about comes in, it would help if a higher source of bank were present.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: dj_de February 07, 2010, 04:09:49 PM
Kubo wants to go if there is a MBACverB tourney.
:psyduck:

If I get to go I will MM kubo in FUC for hilarious results
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Arlieth Tralare February 07, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
Approaching American companies might not be the best course of action; since the game isn't even released here, there might be trade laws being violated, etc etc. Japanese companies would be a better option, but still a long shot. Ecole or French Bread might be worthwhile, but I'll have to leave it to our moonspeak-fluent Melty Breaders to communicate with them.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spirit Juice February 08, 2010, 02:03:41 AM
You could try Tepelin, the guy who is in charge of West Coast Warzone.  That guy is baller and has pretty much given money out of his own pocket for the WCW events.  Not sure how he feels about Evo and MBAA, but i doesn't hurt to ask/try.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 08, 2010, 09:05:16 AM
I talked to teruta again today, and he gave me some encouraging news



.... God sent?
I need to talk to Mr. Wizard or someone else deeply involved with EVO, to send an e-mail to ECOLE.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: AARP|ZTB February 08, 2010, 12:16:35 PM
pretty fucking godlike, I must say.

@Curbeh

I really appreciate what you've done for me personally and the community thus far. I got a reply from JM (thanks to your help) and he appears to show much interest in attending...but of course dat yen is an issue.

"We want to participate in it by all means if our purse permits.
And I want to watch WWE or TNA ^^" (JeffreyManson)

And yes, he's quite serious about RASSLIN'.

Japan invades US (again)?
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 08, 2010, 01:19:47 PM
A bit more, things I would need to ask Mr. wizard.

<teruta>
I would like you to ask the company "Ecole" if they can sponser a few of the Japanese players to fly over to America for your tournament. If they do agree to this, is there any chance you can give space for their logo to be shown in some way, for example a mini commercial on the big screen or generally tagged in different parts of the building. Also which players would you be most interested in bringing over to the U.S? If we do get some sort of amount from Ecole or from the U.S players/organizers I propose they split all the sponsored amount in equal sums, and they all can pay for the rest of their journey with their own funds.

He will try to contact:
Kou, Leo, Ieda, SII, AI, Highspeed, Yuu, Kanna, Yoshino, Hagi, JefferyManson, GO1, Kaimaato, Lucky Star

Jin want to come to EVO and can pay for himself
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: heir February 08, 2010, 01:38:03 PM
I hope that was a joke about MBAC, it would be pretty cool to see kubo attend.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Tonberry February 08, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
<teruta>
Also which players would you be most interested in bringing over to the U.S? If we do get some sort of amount from Ecole or from the U.S players/organizers I propose they split all the sponsored amount in equal sums, and they all can pay for the rest of their journey with their own funds.

He will try to contact:
Kou, Leo, Ieda, SII, AI, Highspeed, Yuu, Kanna, Yoshino, Hagi, JefferyManson, GO1, Kaimaato, Lucky Star

Jin want to come to EVO and can pay for himself

SAT, Waka, Jamu, Yukinose, and Tsujisosu are also people I'd like to see at EVO.

: Curbeh
* Kubo wants to go if there is a MBACverB tourney.

Kubo vs Jiyuna netplay exhibition match on big screen would be gdlk.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Tsubasa☆ February 08, 2010, 04:22:29 PM
Jin @Evo? Hype! Now I would like to see You there, but that already looks like a big list to work on there.

Thanks for the work there, Curbeh. Also, not sure if he'll see this, but an enormous thanks to teruta for being proxy MeltyBread in Japan.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Coren February 08, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
I talked to teruta again today, and he gave me some encouraging news

  • Teruta talked with GO1 and a friend that works at ECOLE
  • GO1 definitely wants to come if he could his hands on some money
  • If we could get EVO to send a formal email to ECOLE, we might be able to get some funding from them (he wants me to send an e-mail to him too if that happens)
  • Teruta used to work for ECOLE so he knows some people there
  • He also knows a lot of famous players all over Japan, so he wants to have his hand in any selection process
  • He stress getting someone to to send that email to ECOLE for formality, so we should talk to someone from EVO (Mr. Wizard?)


.... God sent?
I need to talk to Mr. Wizard or someone else deeply involved with EVO, to send an e-mail to ECOLE.
A bit more, things I would need to ask Mr. wizard.

<teruta>
I would like you to ask the company "Ecole" if they can sponser a few of the Japanese players to fly over to America for your tournament. If they do agree to this, is there any chance you can give space for their logo to be shown in some way, for example a mini commercial on the big screen or generally tagged in different parts of the building. Also which players would you be most interested in bringing over to the U.S? If we do get some sort of amount from Ecole or from the U.S players/organizers I propose they split all the sponsored amount in equal sums, and they all can pay for the rest of their journey with their own funds.

He will try to contact:
Kou, Leo, Ieda, SII, AI, Highspeed, Yuu, Kanna, Yoshino, Hagi, JefferyManson, GO1, Kaimaato, Lucky Star

Jin want to come to EVO and can pay for himself

You are my hero forever, yes homo.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: F9|Chibi February 08, 2010, 07:19:58 PM
Wow, Jin showing up would be awesome.

Love to sit down and have some training sessions with him and the like.

 :teach:
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: LoliSauce February 08, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
I will seriously cum buckets if Kou or Kanna make it to Evo. 

Seriously.
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4105/buckets.jpg)
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Vhaeraun February 09, 2010, 01:21:37 AM
Though I won't be playing at EVO because I live in the PH(:psyduck:), it would still get me HYPE if Leo, Hato plays
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 09, 2010, 03:43:30 PM
Update:

Who can come and don't need help:

Who wants to come but are poor:

Who cannot come:

Undecided:

: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Numakie February 09, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
I wanna play Jin....   :-X
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spidey February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
Should we even be helping some of the poor jp people that are being dicks (as per sp00kys ranting on irc today)?? Some sound like they dont deserve to come cause they only showed some interest after mbaa was dropped from sbo, and they still want their trip fully paid for...
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Choco February 09, 2010, 06:03:32 PM
Should we even be helping some of the poor jp people that are being dicks (as per sp00kys ranting on irc today)?? Some sound like they dont deserve to come cause they only showed some interest after mbaa was dropped from sbo, and they still want their trip fully paid for...

I don't agree with this at all. I don't think we should be paying their ways entirely (maybe helping out, but who really deserves a free ride?), but if the community really wants to be accepted in America, then giving JP players a real reason to trust and care about the American scene is by offering our good will first. We don't really know what happened when GO1 got Spooky's communications, but I'm not in favor of saying "fuck Japan" over that when we have an opportunity for a domestic release. We've all worked too hard for that shit to happen.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Sp00ky February 09, 2010, 06:12:14 PM
Dont pay my ranting any attention. This should happen in some form or another. My issue is personal.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spidey February 09, 2010, 06:23:41 PM

 but I'm not in favor of saying "fuck Japan" over that when we have an opportunity for a domestic release. We've all worked too hard for that shit to happen.

Well I did say "some" not all, nor did I say fuck japan, I am really happy that the people who want to come and can afford to do so are making the trip. I am however not in favor in donating to anyones full ride if they really dont want to come in the first place, but only as a last resort...but I do see your point.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: CPhame February 09, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
I second that notion as well.  I'm not in favor in donating toward someone's ride for free.  While it's great they want to come and can potentially be sponsored, that sentiment doesn't swing both ways, imo.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Tonberry February 09, 2010, 07:08:37 PM
Update:
Who cannot come:
  • Ieda

:( Why did he have to be the one person who can't come?
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spirit Juice February 09, 2010, 07:11:04 PM
If Ecole wants to pay for Japanese players to come, then that's fine.  The US community should not shell out any cash to get JP players to come.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: F9|Chibi February 09, 2010, 07:34:47 PM
Yeah, I'll be giving money to our own players to get to Evo first before I give it to the Japanese, sorry.

 :teach:
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Dipstick February 09, 2010, 09:29:24 PM
Getting your ass to Evolution (yes, YOU) is priority one; everything else is priority two.

Now if after you've secured passage you want to throw some bucks at a player (domestic, foreign, alien, etc.) that's your choice.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Mistwraith February 09, 2010, 10:30:56 PM
Well having some Japanese players might or not help the EVO scene. Don't think it will have a very big impact from a foreigner point of view (my 2cents view). Of course they might showcase alot of high level play but I think you guys have people who can showcase that too, not on the same level but close.

On top of that, not everyone knows what the hell is MBAA much less the players from Japan. Keeping the hype alive at EVO will still be the most important thing I guess. There is a EVO APEC which is EVO Asia Pacific held in Sydney, Australia for people around the region to participate. Currently the game which they are hosting is SSF4, the champion of the tourney will be sponsored to fly over to Vegas free and seeded thru the prelim rounds. So maybe pray hard they might include MBAA too, but my hopes ain't too high for it to happen, pray for the best only.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Nandeyanen February 09, 2010, 10:45:41 PM
Well having some Japanese players might or not help the EVO scene. Don't think it will have a very big impact from a foreigner point of view (my 2cents view). Of course they might showcase alot of high level play but I think you guys have people who can showcase that too, not on the same level but close.

Well, these players are currently the best around. Pretty sure we're still far behind them. They'd be the best at demonstrating high level play and (hopefully) getting people interested in the game. Here's hoping Ecole will sponsor some of them, or that someone will hold some sort of qualifying event/tournament for sponsorship. I'd really like to see Yoshino show.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 10, 2010, 12:44:02 AM
Update:

So I talked to Mr. Wizard on IRC and this is basically the break down:


Even just having ECOLE's name at EVO is a step in the right direction in my opinion. I'll update everyone as soon as I find something else out.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spirit Juice February 10, 2010, 01:51:01 AM
Update:

So I talked to Mr. Wizard on IRC and this is basically the break down:

  • It is against EVO's policy to have their hand in bringing players over to an open tournament
  • It is possible to have a sort of partnership program where they supply PS2s, games, and/or funds for EVO in exchange for advertisement, but that would be the extent
  • I will be sending an email later to Mr. Wizard in to clear the details and have him write up a letter to ECOLE for that
  • Even EVO can't have their hand in bringing players over, what ECOLE does on their dime is... (ok?)

Even just having ECOLE's name at EVO is a step in the right direction in my opinion. I'll update everyone as soon as I find something else out.

Some points were expected.  Good news though.  Ecole and Evo working together (even if it's only minorly) is a good step in the right direction.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: altergenesis February 10, 2010, 09:10:24 AM
This is quite exciting and even 1 or 2 of them would be interesting.

: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: angelicxx February 10, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
Can SAT come or did you not even bother looking if he could? :(((


I know we can't have all our favorite players checked out but SAT is just such a beast.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Nandeyanen February 10, 2010, 12:43:09 PM
Can SAT come or did you not even bother looking if he could? :(((


I know we can't have all our favorite players checked out but SAT is just such a beast.

It's only been a few days, I assume Teruta hasn't been able to get in contact with all the players yet, or maybe they are mulling it over and have not responded back yet. Wonder if Kaimaato will show...
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Kusanagi February 10, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
JeffreManson ;_;
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spidey February 10, 2010, 10:46:13 PM
is jeffery manson ---> j anson?  cause that'd be hype and i'd donate to him coming to evo?
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Tonberry February 10, 2010, 11:18:13 PM
is jeffery manson ---> j anson?  cause that'd be hype and i'd donate to him coming to evo?

I don't think so.  Jeffrey Manson is an Aoko player.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spidey February 10, 2010, 11:35:06 PM
is jeffery manson ---> j anson?  cause that'd be hype and i'd donate to him coming to evo?

I don't think so.  Jeffrey Manson is an Aoko player.

tears....
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Xx ggmaster xX February 11, 2010, 06:36:27 AM
watching SBT, SAT or whoever in EVO video with English narration will be really cool...

How about finding a way to netplay Japanese people with delay 1?

International Netplay Tournament :P
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Cristu February 11, 2010, 09:31:55 AM
Well having some Japanese players might or not help the EVO scene. Don't think it will have a very big impact from a foreigner point of view (my 2cents view). Of course they might showcase alot of high level play but I think you guys have people who can showcase that too, not on the same level but close.

I dont think its close xD... but you guys are very good anyway...

man, I can't wait to see it :prinny:
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 23, 2010, 03:03:55 PM
Update:

Who can come and don't need help:

Who wants to come but are poor:

Who cannot come:

Undecided:

Teruta said that JeffreManson said that he would try to come even if ECOLE gives up no money
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: AARP|ZTB February 23, 2010, 03:51:09 PM
Jeffrey MAAAANNNNSONNNN!

So what's going to happen with the "Can't come" group. Gonna start up donations?
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Curbeh February 23, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
Can't come = Set of circumstances that means that they actually cannot come.

Any donations would be for the "poa" group... But hold off on that for now.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spirit Juice February 23, 2010, 03:57:32 PM
Jeffrey MAAAANNNNSONNNN!

So what's going to happen with the "Can't come" group. Gonna start up donations?

Yes, let's give them money even though they're NOT in the "want to come but are poor" group.  It would make sense to give people money that can't come for reasons that don't involve money.

On a more serious note, no one should be donating money to get players to come (unless you're super baller and make like 100k+ a year).  Focus on getting yourself (and possibly your poorer US MB community members!) to Evo first and foremost!
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: AARP|ZTB February 23, 2010, 04:03:15 PM
Calm down, Spirit lol. It was a (horrible) typo. I was looking specifically at GO1's name (in "too poor" group) when I had donation thread in mind but for some reason typed "can't come".

breathe.
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spirit Juice February 23, 2010, 05:43:26 PM
NO MAN I AM ANGRY ALL THE TIME FUCK YOU
: Re: An idea that could help pull Japanese players
: Spidey February 23, 2010, 05:56:25 PM
NO MAN I AM ANGRY ALL THE TIME FUCK YOU
Haters gonna hate!

I'd donate to j-anson, his roa is just that fabulous