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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2010, 05:31:47 AM »
Well,at least they didnt add the clashframes back...(or did they?).
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2010, 08:24:29 AM »
I was never a big fan of the armor system... it makes pokeouts kinda bad and antiairs really shitty. Maybe this is a good change! Also, is the input buffer still 12f? I don't think anyone has gotten an answer yet

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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2010, 08:39:10 AM »
I was never a big fan of the armor system... it makes pokeouts kinda bad and antiairs really shitty. Maybe this is a good change! Also, is the input buffer still 12f? I don't think anyone has gotten an answer yet
Input Buffer was never 12f in arcade, only console. It was 8f in arcade IIRC.

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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2010, 09:04:38 AM »
Level Armor IS in reference to what we call "Anti A Armor" (Since calling it just anti A would confine what its real properties were in the PS2 version). Even in the BBS post, Japanese players have mixed feelings towards it, but think about this before you gripe:

: How often did it activate in any set of matches?
: Look at how bad Level 1 (5A/2A and level 1 specials) are compared to AC.


In my opinion, people mashing A are still going to get bodied...
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2010, 09:08:02 AM »
In my opinion, people mashing A are still going to get bodied...

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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2010, 10:50:37 AM »
A hitboxes are fucking terrible

also nero doesn't deserve damage nerfs, his damage is ass

they should have just nerf some of his fmoon animals/soil, cmoon is pretty perfect imo
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2010, 11:41:19 AM »
I think nerfing damage is better than nerfing summons for Nero.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2010, 11:41:40 AM »
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2010, 12:35:02 PM »
Wtf have they done to you miyako!
They made it so only DA GAWD can really play her.  :prinny:
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2010, 01:53:10 PM »
Level Armor IS in reference to what we call "Anti A Armor" (Since calling it just anti A would confine what its real properties were in the PS2 version). Even in the BBS post, Japanese players have mixed feelings towards it, but think about this before you gripe:

: How often did it activate in any set of matches?
: Look at how bad Level 1 (5A/2A and level 1 specials) are compared to AC.


In my opinion, people mashing A are still going to get bodied...
Usually happens at least once per match with me if not more.  Depends on who I'm playing.

I'm super against it because now it makes stagger pressure less powerful and it also gives an easy 5a antiair option vs deep jumpins just because most people's 5a is fast enough to get away with it.  That fucks up shit for a lot of full moon characters, since they can't rebeat for safety in pressure/jumpins.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2010, 05:20:07 PM »
Look through those jp CC vids, find one instance of an A-attack trading with a B/C attack. I sure as fuck can't.

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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2010, 05:46:06 PM »
Look through those jp CC vids, find one instance of an A-attack trading with a B/C attack. I sure as fuck can't.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2010, 08:47:28 PM »
C-Aoko more playable now IMO (already thinking on stuff that can be done :3)
H-Aoko dmg nerf (lolwut)... 214A having more recovery is dumb though... slow move, minus on block, plus high recovery... you guys srs? :|
F-Aoko Meh, same changes as ps2, and a dmg nerf on a single move is not that bad when she does shit ton dmg with her normals lol
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2010, 10:05:59 PM »
C-Ryougi 6C~236C followup has been changed.
Damage nerfed, but now circuit breaks.

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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2010, 12:19:06 AM »
Good thread. Thanks for all those infos.

Any news on F-Ryougi yet?
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2010, 12:52:11 AM »
C-Ryougi 6C~236C followup has been changed.
Damage nerfed, but now circuit breaks.

Finally, a reason to use that move.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2010, 01:33:27 AM »
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2010, 04:05:46 PM »
Look through those jp CC vids, find one instance of an A-attack trading with a B/C attack. I sure as fuck can't.
it's not like japan used 2a THAT much even in mbac in terms of disrespect. Everybody in japan respects Nanaya's airthrow in the corner even when he didn't gimp his comboes to make it meaty, different mindsets.

The real reason removal of level armor is BS imo is the fucking 5a trade in grounded favor crap. I really hope there is something else that will stop that because it's the most retarded thing ever. It's practically impossible to punish if the person knows what they're doing.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2010, 04:29:02 PM »
From what Garu told me when I asked about H.Vsion for CC, she got nerfed.  Not sure if its true or not, but if anyone can info about her then it would be great and much appreciated. :)
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2010, 05:19:43 PM »
Look through those jp CC vids, find one instance of an A-attack trading with a B/C attack. I sure as fuck can't.
it's not like japan used 2a THAT much even in mbac in terms of disrespect. Everybody in japan respects Nanaya's airthrow in the corner even when he didn't gimp his comboes to make it meaty, different mindsets.

The real reason removal of level armor is BS imo is the fucking 5a trade in grounded favor crap. I really hope there is something else that will stop that because it's the most retarded thing ever. It's practically impossible to punish if the person knows what they're doing.

With the new CH system, I doubt you'll be scoring hot combos with 5A trade. And remember, 5As/2As are still ass in MBAA. Any B/C jump in worth its merit will body them.


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From what Garu told me when I asked about H.Vsion for CC, she got nerfed.  Not sure if its true or not, but if anyone can info about her then it would be great and much appreciated. :)
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2010, 07:43:17 PM »
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With the new CH system, I doubt you'll be scoring hot combos with 5A trade. And remember, 5As/2As are still ass in MBAA. Any B/C jump in worth its merit will body them.

what do you mean "new ch system"

the fact there's more popup? Most 5as have the same kind of hitboxes they had in AC, they don't have to cleanly beat shit, it just has to trade at least, which is very easy vs anything that is no a very distanced spaced jumpin (ie if you did an iad or are pressuring in the corner...)
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2010, 08:22:41 PM »
The opponent is also CH2'd from said trade.
Most 5A's are not the same, we looked at some comparisons on IRC. Most are lower and inside the characters hitbox. Even jiyuna was saying from his own experiences that 5A antiair/trade was not working.

I have no idea how they play in UK, but the trade system system occurred extremely rarely here, but it doesn't matter now because its gone either way.
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2010, 08:30:14 PM »
Any changes on Hisui?
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2010, 08:49:13 PM »
Wooo Len buffs! I can switch between all 3 moons now yay
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Re: Current Code Changes
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2010, 09:08:02 PM »
Any changes on Hisui?

Talked about it on IRC, there was no real list though.... But to F-Hisui jC was buffed or so

Oh, and for F-Akiha it was stuff like j2C buffed but hard to link, UBset up nerf'd and dash 2A hits meaty off air throw
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