When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?

Author Topic: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC (with Netplay)  (Read 209595 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2009, 11:51:24 AM »
Now i made it run at 50 FPS, now I'm certain i can make it go the extra mile to 60.
is progressive scan mode available in GSDX9?

Offline mrthefter

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 128
  • Magic Circuits: 5
  • Now I've lost it. I know I can kill
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2009, 12:01:49 PM »
Yeah. Progressive scan is a game option in MBAA. It's like how Guilty Gear had the option when holding the same buttons. FWIW, all computer monitors are basically progressive scan. Only non-HDTV broadcasts are interlaced (and anything that plugged into non-HDTVs, such as pre-HD consoles), with the exception of 1080i. This is why there is a distinction between 480i and 480p, or 1080i and 1080p.
In fact, if you pay attention to the console, it says it switches to 480p mode.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 12:05:05 PM by mrthefter »

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2009, 12:25:47 PM »
I see, how do you access that mode?
and  another question for those of you that uses speedhacks, what are your settings?

Offline mrthefter

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 128
  • Magic Circuits: 5
  • Now I've lost it. I know I can kill
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2009, 12:34:19 PM »
FYI, if you hold triangle+cross once the render window comes up, pick the top option twice to use progressive mode. This way, you don't have to use the render plugin's deinterlacer, which makes it look quite pretty (no scanlines or blurriness)

I think most of the speedhack settings should be pretty compatible with this game. Sound might suffer some degrade in quality, but it should be safe to set all the speed hacks.

Offline Toastman

  • Apprentice
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2009, 01:21:46 PM »




Is this happening to anyone else?

Try unchecking allow 8-bit textures. A friend of mine had the same problem, and that was the problem  :psyduck:

Sorry but that didn't fix it at all.  I tried running it in software mode and the pixels come back but it's laggy as hell.  Anyone know why this might be?

What graphics hardware do you have?

Intel G33/G31 Express Chipset Family.

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2009, 01:28:14 PM »
My solution was setting the Renderer to Direct3d9.

Anyways, do it matter if the BIOS i use is from a PAL ps2?

and about those speedhacks, of x1.5, x2 or x3 cycling, which works best?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 01:35:47 PM by CrimsonMoonMist »

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2009, 01:38:15 PM »
Anyways, do it matter if the BIOS i use is from a PAL ps2?

and about those speedhacks, of x1.5, x2 or x3 cycling, which works best?
the bios shouldn't matter since it's an emulator and for those speedhacks, most of it depends on you PC and how much more speed you need for better fps, i suggest the x2 cycling, but you can try and see how the game runs

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »
Everything is mostly the same.
i feel i am so close to get stable speed!
right now it stays mostly at 40,
sometimes going over to 50,
and it goes to 60 when a character does it's win pose.

then, of the advanced settings, which is the fastest?
i have tried enabling everything that say "fastest" yet i can't really tell the difference.
I guess i'm expecting too much of my old piece of junk, but i feel so close...

Offline Press

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 300
  • Magic Circuits: 4
  • Seizon Senryaku!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2009, 02:04:35 PM »
Use 2x cycling speed hacks
Then try using:
Enable IOP cycling 2x
Wait Cycle sync hack
INTC Sync hack

Try messing around with those three options. I'm pretty sure having all three checked at the same time doesn't really work well, but you never know. If all three on doesn't work then just try different combinations of 2 of them or just one of them.
Happy Birthday to the GROUND

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2009, 02:07:18 PM »
also try enabling frame skip in the CPU options...thing..in the emulator, that should give you some more fps

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2009, 03:09:55 PM »
Tried it, there was no difference except the screen kept flickering.
guess the only thing left to do is mess around with the speedhacks.
I'm done for tonight, 6 hours straight of figuring these things out is really boring.
Oh well, 40 FPS is better than 6 FPS.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 03:23:28 PM by CrimsonMoonMist »

Offline Masu

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 189
  • Magic Circuits: 3
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2009, 06:46:21 PM »
FYI, if you hold triangle+cross once the render window comes up, pick the top option twice to use progressive mode. This way, you don't have to use the render plugin's deinterlacer, which makes it look quite pretty (no scanlines or blurriness)

@Masu
This will help with the vibrating. As for slowness turn on some speedhax.

@Sabator
Software mode is inherently slower than hardware mode. If you have multiple cores (read, 3+, although 2 might work) try increasing the number of rendering threads. As for the white boxes, it might have to do with texture filtering, but play around with that 8-bit texture option, too.

NVM Wist answered for me :p
« Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 07:05:09 PM by Masu »

Offline Kung Fu Man

  • Apprentice
  • *
  • Posts: 7
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2009, 08:51:59 PM »
Regarding the progressive mode, it ended up behaving oddly when I went into boss rush with it on: music cuts out, it glitched up once, and persistently crashes during the fight with Dust or when she's KO'ed. Anyone else get these problems?

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2009, 10:43:00 PM »
Tried it, there was no difference except the screen kept flickering.
guess the only thing left to do is mess around with the speedhacks.
I'm done for tonight, 6 hours straight of figuring these things out is really boring.
Oh well, 40 FPS is better than 6 FPS.
Well at least you can allways say your pc is able to emulate a PS2. :3 Anyway, have you tryied the ZeroGS graphic plugin? I think it runs better on older PCs, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you could juice some extra FPS's with it. The graphics are....well....worse (pixelated) , but it should run better.

Offline WanteD

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2009, 10:52:31 PM »
I just tried out zeros on progressive mode and it looks fantastic, I looks just like mbac pc.

Offline COD3player

  • Camouflaged Curry
  • ****
  • Posts: 1714
  • Magic Circuits: 51
  • H.A.T.R.
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2009, 11:20:59 PM »
ok I've tweaked the graphics plugin settings to the point where it looks more or less the way it does on ps2. The game runs at a smooth 60 fps most of the time. Only problem I'm having right now is that there's input delay. Whether I'm using keyboard or converter + pad, there's some input delay. Any clue how to resolve this?
<--- "the irony of being one of the least anime people in the anime FGC" - bell

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2009, 11:28:31 PM »
Did it have the input lag before you started tweaking? The game itself has a small input lag while played on an emulator, so if it's bigger than before, you have your answer.

Offline GameKyuubi

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2009, 11:28:43 PM »
Regarding the progressive mode, it ended up behaving oddly when I went into boss rush with it on: music cuts out, it glitched up once, and persistently crashes during the fight with Dust or when she's KO'ed. Anyone else get these problems?

Nawp.  Progressive is the way to go definitely.

Offline COD3player

  • Camouflaged Curry
  • ****
  • Posts: 1714
  • Magic Circuits: 51
  • H.A.T.R.
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2009, 11:31:10 PM »
Did it have the input lag before you started tweaking? The game itself has a small input lag while played on an emulator, so if it's bigger than before, you have your answer.
The first time I fired it up it had input lag and it's still the same. I'm pretty sure it's not the laptop I'm using or the converter since I have other emulators and there's no input lag with those.
<--- "the irony of being one of the least anime people in the anime FGC" - bell

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2009, 11:35:16 PM »
The first time I fired it up it had input lag and it's still the same. I'm pretty sure it's not the laptop I'm using or the converter since I have other emulators and there's no input lag with those.
Well, for whatever reason emulator+MBAA= input lag, I don't think you can do anything against it. But you can try a different controller plugins, I don't know where to download any, but try to google it.

Offline mrthefter

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 128
  • Magic Circuits: 5
  • Now I've lost it. I know I can kill
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2009, 11:55:03 PM »
I've heard vsync will cause input delay, as will inconsistent framerates. Something to do with multithreading, and emulation getting ahead of rendering. That's why other emulators don't have the same problem. They're not emulating using multiple (synced) cores.

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2009, 05:28:09 AM »

Well at least you can allways say your pc is able to emulate a PS2. :3 Anyway, have you tryied the ZeroGS graphic plugin? I think it runs better on older PCs, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you could juice some extra FPS's with it. The graphics are....well....worse (pixelated) , but it should run better.
It doesn't work on my PC,
i get this error and then it closes down.

Back to the plugin that does work, something have given me a pretty nice little boost in FPS, dunno what i did that made it like that though.
also, what does this error mean? it doesn't seem to affect the game or anything, just curious

I have plans of updating my PC by the end of the month.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2009, 07:05:13 AM by CrimsonMoonMist »

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2009, 07:30:06 AM »
I wonder why the plugin doesn't work on your pc. :mystery: I'll try a little google magic and look for a plugin that would work and wouldn't require a beast PC xD. And about that error,I don't know what it means but you shouldn't worry, I have it too and everything seems ok so far....maybe except the fact that for whatever reason I can't unlock AT:E -_-....luckily i found a save with her so I can still enjoy how broken she is xD

Offline CrimsonMoonMist

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Magic Circuits: 3
  • KIMGATE: makes your smile shine with JUSTICE!
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2009, 07:43:50 AM »
I'm using that save as well, AT:E is such a waste of space, really...
Now that the game sort of works I'm a bit hesitant to change the settings in fear of ruining it,
but i guess i can't progress if i don't even try.

When it comes to video plugins my only choice is GSdx SSE2, all the others crash.
anyways, anything you see i can do to maybe improve speed?

video
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7803/utennavnf.png

sound
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2085/utennavna.png

advanced
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2138/utennavnn.png

cpu
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1991/utennavnk.png

speedhacks
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4091/fishyp.png
« Last Edit: August 24, 2009, 07:53:12 AM by CrimsonMoonMist »

Offline Gold13821

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 2
  • ...blood..melty...
    • View Profile
Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2009, 07:51:09 AM »
I'm using that save as well, AT:E is such a waste of space, really...
Now that the game sort of works I'm a bit hesitant to change the settings in fear of ruining it,
but i guess i can't progress if i don't even try.

When it comes to video plugins my only choice is GSdx SSE2, all the others crash.
anyways, anything you see i can do to maybe improve speed?

try to change the renderer to Direct3D9 (Hardware) and interlacing to Wave tff (saw-tooth) or just to none. I don't know if it'll help,but maybe it will. I'll play with the plugin around a little and see what works.