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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2009, 08:59:47 AM »
Is there any chance to know what's written in the Actress Again logo between the "Actress Again" and the "Hologram Summer Again, Tri Hermes Black Land" lines? All images of that logo here and on the net are so small you can't even guess the letters.

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2009, 09:54:58 AM »
http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/scanlogo.jpg


I showed you the 9000x6000 but I'd rather it didn't suck up my traffic limit, and it's still pretty much unreadable even at that level.

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Only 5 more ending cgs to do, then I'm gonna get started on framedata.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2009, 10:44:43 AM by Irysa »
[17:09:40] <Roy> lol wtf, escort service prices in helsinki are fucking ridiculous
[17:10:32] <Irysa> why are you even looking at those
[17:10:52] <Roy> Looking for a reason to go to the event despite sucking at Melty

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 2
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2009, 10:47:35 AM »
It's good for vectorizing! Sankyuu.

Edit: To be honest, it doesn't look like roman letters. There are no characters that look as odd as in the ending of the 2nd line. It seems like either japanese or some non-existing fake language OR some swirly kind of arabic letters. But I'm absolutely not sure.

Edit2:

http://www.meltyblood.de/stuff-fu/scanlogo_clean.png

Not a vector but a... uhm... redraw. Kind of.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 2
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2009, 07:06:41 PM »
All the ending cgs are up now. Uploading obscure framedata (dodges, dashes, heats etc) before the brunt of stuff.

Some character framedata up now.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2009, 07:54:36 PM by Irysa »
[17:09:40] <Roy> lol wtf, escort service prices in helsinki are fucking ridiculous
[17:10:32] <Irysa> why are you even looking at those
[17:10:52] <Roy> Looking for a reason to go to the event despite sucking at Melty

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2009, 03:29:21 AM »
The frame data is a bit more detailed in this one than in the MBAC vb mook.  I see what you mean about having to go by name with everything.  It's certainly easier to deal with that when you have the book to look at and cross-reference with the character pages to see what's what.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2009, 06:27:42 AM »
someone translate please  :emo:
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2009, 06:50:26 AM »
Thanks for the hard work.

It's awesome.

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2009, 07:11:36 AM »
And you said it wasn't worth the tenner? You're torturing your scanner and your free time.

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2009, 09:01:51 AM »
[...]

http://www.meltyblood.de/stuff-fu/scanlogo_clean.png

Not a vector but a... uhm... redraw. Kind of.
Awesome. +HEAT. I can haz PSD prty plz?
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2009, 09:26:55 AM »
You think I'm using Photoshop? Ahaha. Good ol' Paint Shop Pro 7, dude. However:
http://www.meltyblood.de/stuff-fu/scanlogo.psd

For the clean hourglass symbol (lol I was redrawing that one months ago from a 200x400px image):
http://www.meltyblood.de/stuff-fu/hourglass.png

It's not perfect, I know.

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 10:48:22 AM »
someone translate please  :emo:
Gimme a minute on it.  I have to make sure I have each of the columns right AND work with Irysa on what input each move is before I start listing shit out.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 3
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2009, 11:07:07 AM »
I'm planning on actually finishing upping all the framedata for all chars before I start working out what's what, so the translation's gonna take a bit longer m'fraid.

In the meantime, 10 more pages of framedata are up.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 11:31:07 AM by Irysa »
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[17:10:32] <Irysa> why are you even looking at those
[17:10:52] <Roy> Looking for a reason to go to the event despite sucking at Melty

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 4
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2009, 10:27:13 PM »
It's all good.  I'm in no rush.  Just let me know when you're done and we can start the arduous process of cross referencing the moves and documenting them all.  In the meantime, I'll go about figuring out the columns I'm still not sure on in preparation.

Oh, also I have a question.  Does it show anywhere exactly how much guard meter you have?  Because one of the columns is guard damage, and it'd be nice to be able to put that into perspective, you know?  Knowing that x move does 200 damage to an opponent's guard meter is meaningless if I don't actually know how much your guard meter is at max.

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Pulsr, VeteMASTER OF FRAMES, and I have deduced what each column is.
Name | Startup | Active Frames | Recovery | Advantage | Hitstun | Damage | Red Damage | Meter | Guard Damage | Block | Cancel | Proration | Notes
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 4
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2009, 01:08:10 PM »
That's all the framedata up now. Here's a guard meter info one, idk if it'll be useful for that.

http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/guard.jpg

also, I need some help figuring out what some of the things related to bunkers and shields mean on the data. Although I've figured out the basic normal input readings so we can save time on that.

http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/roastbeefframes.txt this has the listings from top to bottom in numpad notation.

http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/asdf.jpg

the ones I couldn't figure are here in the image, if you can figure out what it's trying to say that'd be great.
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[17:10:52] <Roy> Looking for a reason to go to the event despite sucking at Melty

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2009, 12:17:35 AM »
Ah, I already knew what all the stuff in the normals were, I just need to know the specials and I'm good.  Here's what you're confused on though.

Shield Bunker (214d)
Guard Cancel Shield Bunker (cancelling into 214d out of blockstun)
*Shield Counter (auto counter)

*- F/H only

Interestingly enough, only Half Moon's guard cancel shield bunker is any different than the normal shield bunker, having significantly less startup and recovery when guard cancelled at the cost of doing no damage (wtf?).  Is it like that for all characters?


It has begun. 
http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenf.jpg

I'll need to consult with the MASTER OF FRAMES again to make sure I know what everything is in the Cancel and Notes columns, but otherwise I (and anyone else) can begin working on this bitch.  I find it easier for me to keep it organized through an excel doc, but a text file is fine too.  Anyone who wants to work on this, post and lemme know.  Let's try and keep everyone organized so that we can prevent multiple people working on the same characters and shit like that.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2009, 10:46:23 AM »
http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/Roaframes.txt Roa move transcriptions.

I need help figuring out how his Crescent 22 series is supposed to work. There's like a billion different examples of 22 series compared to the other specials. Maybe these pages can suss you out.

http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/roajunk.jpg
http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/roajunk2.jpg


o.k, Voomers cleared this up. 22a and b charge his lightning counter. depending on how many counters he has, the 22c has different properties, which is why there are so many examples of 22c.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2009, 12:53:31 PM by Irysa »
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[17:10:52] <Roy> Looking for a reason to go to the event despite sucking at Melty

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2009, 03:44:43 AM »
Pretty cool. You got a hair in the shot for the guard meter info lol.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2009, 06:03:54 PM »
Thanks, Irysa. Pretty awesome stuff.

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2009, 07:26:24 AM »
I think this book should come with a game soundtrack  :V
woof: like all the stuff i hear from them im like 'thats everything i had t o deal with back when i played'

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2009, 02:07:45 PM »
Just bought this shit, coming in this week I hope.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2009, 10:43:29 PM »
I ordered mines on the 18th of this month and its suppose to be shipping around the 3th or 4th  :V
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2009, 02:18:22 AM »
Well, I brought the all the frame stuff to work with me today so that I could work a little on it during breaks, but I didn't realize the work computers don't have Excel.  Still, I can easily just work into text files and copypasta into the excel files when I'm done.  This is prolly better in the long run since I'll have a pretty and nicely organized excel file for myself and a text version for anything that might need it (or anyone who would prefer a txt file).

Btw, weren't there other people who were going to help out with this shit?  You don't need to know the names of the moves to just start listing out the data.  You can always insert the names in later as Irysa lists them out.
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2009, 10:29:16 PM »
Full Moon Warc has a 4 frame crouch A.  Damn!

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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2009, 09:06:23 PM »
I've been kind of busy, here are Sion's and Arc's transcribed specials.

http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/Sionframes.txt
http://bokunenjin.se/irysa/Arcframes.txt
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Re: MBAA Capture Guidebook | SCANS - UPDATE 5
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2009, 02:25:05 AM »
Thanks Irysa.  Don't worry about taking your time.  I hardly have any free time to work on it either, so it's bound to be a lengthy project.
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