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- Location test announcement for MBAA: Final Tuned
- Will be at Club Sega Akihabara on Dec. 26/27 (Saturday/Sunday)
- Will have all updates made to the PS2 version released this summer.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 01:36:52 PM »
*crosses fingers for Ryougi*
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 01:43:30 PM »
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 01:53:44 PM »
*crosses fingers for Ryougi*

Considering it says it'll have all the PS2 changes I assume that means characters too.

I still want a PC version though =(

Or my local arcade could import this that would make me happy. Unfortunately it won't happen.

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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 02:21:37 PM »
Fuck years, at the very least this means they haven't given up on this game yet.

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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 03:26:28 PM »
Fuck years, at the very least this means they haven't given up on this game yet.

Naming it 'final' tuned suggests they have given up already though. Though this at least gives me some hope for a PC port.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 06:40:50 PM »
Well, this means we'll get tiers with console characters, so chin-up.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 10:00:54 PM »
No PC port, no hype.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 10:40:46 PM »
Why would you want a PC port? Do you think it'll have netplay included?
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 10:43:30 PM »
No PC port, no hype.

I don't understand this shit at all.

The PS2 port has always brought in more people to the community, it makes running tournaments undeniably easier, and now we'll literally be playing the same game as Japanese (for those that care).

Why bother waiting for the PC version? You realize mauve is NOT making a client for it, right?

Stop waiting and start fucking playing. This year's NEC proved to me that 'oh my scene has noone' don't mean jack shit anymore.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2009, 11:02:59 PM »
Ps2 port brought mad life to the scene last time around too.  Seeing how much the game is thriving makes me hope that a PC port doesn't come out at least until the game is established enough to get regular play on a mainstream level.  If it can make that, then even if a PC port drops it won't be the end of the game.

Btw, I didn't realize that mauve swore off adapting the netplay for any possible future mbaa pc vers.  I guess pc port wouldn't really kill the game as long as there wasn't netplay, since people would still have to go to events to get in any matches.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2009, 11:48:28 PM »
oh no not the pc port kill it quick

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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 12:14:05 AM »
All in all I feel that netplay makes people not feel the need to rush out and find some dudes to duel against; which kinda prevents any scene from starting up where the people who are netplay-only usually tell you they netplay because they have no scene.  Netplay doesn't kill scenes, it just kinda prevents them from starting up.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 12:34:55 AM »
MBAA had slowdown in PS2 and even Arcade sometimes. You must ask yourself this, "Would my computer really handle this?". Im pretty apathetic. Netplay would serve as a way for me to just waste time but it stagnating the community is definitely a downside.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 12:50:53 AM »
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 02:56:14 AM »
Quote from: Tourneyfags
Butthurt comments about the guy who wants to play on PC.

three things to point out.

One: I love how people seem to think the only reason the MBAC scene deteriorated was online play. Unless people have a hard-on for source material affiliated with a fighter, or the fighter is amazingly well balanced and built up an extremely strong scene that can survive for years due to previously mentioned reasons, or has flocks of idiots who play it because its mainstream, fighters loose players over time. Case in point: Every fighter that doesn't have the words "Street Fighter", "Guilty Gear", or "Versus" in its name.

If the mere option to play online killed the MBAC scene that quickly, then i hate to tell you, but MBAC was past its prime anyway. When a new fighter comes out, and people are bored with the one there playing due to a lack of any of the 3 previously mentioned reasons, what do you think they do? They PLAY THE NEW FIGHTER. They will inevitably become bored with it, true. And they may return to the old fighter to play again if they still enjoy it or thought it was better then the new fighter. But many will choose not to return. They will stay with the new fighter, or move on to ANOTHER new one. I hate to break it to you, but MBAC was NOT Accent Core. It's potential to hold players on the premise of gameplay alone was.... less then amazing. And MBAC DEFINITELY wasn't "mainstream". For christs sake, you don't see GG players making fun of there own game, or saying things like "I know (random game) is technically better then the one i play, but i still play my game anyway". The fanbase that stayed with MBAC were the people who loved the source material/characters, and the people who loved/accepted the quirks that made other people detest it. (2A mashing, EX Heiro, etc)

If you loved MBAC, fine. The fact that this site exists is testament to the fact that people liked MBAC. But blaming netplay as the sole reason for the deterioration of the scene is ludicrous, and a blatant excuse to hide from the reality that your game had flaws that other people didnt like or didnt find amazing enough to warrant playing for years.

If MBAA is as good of a game as you all say it is, then you shouldn't have a fucking problem then. Don't blame people who can't play the game on the console its on for wanting to play it on one that they can play. If making multiplayer (the reason people buy fighters in the first place) available to more people kills your scene, your game is fucking doomed. Look at SF4. Sure the game is bland as shit, but its mainstream, and got a fuckton of players right at launch. You dont see the online play driving people off THERE, do you? (if you have some funky ass statistic that shows that online play has, in fact, hampered SF4's success, il recant this whole post.)  

Two: Id play the PS2 version if i could. Mines broke, and to put it bluntly, im poor as fuck. Jackasses.  >:(

Three: If theirs no netplay, fine. Id just like to play the fucking game at this point.  Im assuming the system requirements for a PC version would be less then running the PS2 disc through a PS2 emu, (which my comp isnt capable of. Because im poor as fuck.), so all i can do is hope for a PC release. Game doesn't LOOK like itd cause much more graphical chug then MBAC did. (if im wrong there, then that prolly axes any chance of me getting to play it until i can scrounge up money that doesn't go towards college bills and a roof. Dont kill my dreams please.  :emo:)
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 04:19:55 AM »
Quote from: Tourneyfags
Butthurt comments about the guy who wants to play on PC.

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I agree with this but would also like to add that a ps3 or 360 port would also be  :fap: worthy if unlikely.

Just out of interst how are the communities of games you can play on GGPO like the SFA games and 3s since it launched?
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 04:54:10 AM »
I'm so poor I can't afford to mod a decade-old game system to pirate a game like 99% of the people playing right now, so I will wait for a torrent of a PC port.

Could've saved us a lot of time by getting to the point. Save the hostility for someplace else please.

Netplay doesn't kill a scene, but it doesn't really augment it by much either. Most of the people who netplay regularly aren't going to travel to an event to get real games in due to any number of reasons: casual attitude (nothing wrong with this), lack of funds or time, social awkwardness, etc. In the end, the core competitive scene will still continue to exist. By the time MBAC Caster came out the game was already starting to slip a bit. It got a brief revival but in the end the hassle of running events on PC made the whole thing more trouble than it was worth. A PC port without netplay would basically put the scene in a difficult position of choosing between an outdated PS2 version or a logistical nightmare on PC. Mauve has already made it clear he isn't going to make a netplay tool for a MBAA PC even if it came out, so good luck finding someone to fill his shoes.

EDIT: The Alpha games are dead competitively, reduced to niche playerbases. 3S is pretty much dead too. Netplay didn't revive or kill these games, they were just old and their time was over.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2009, 08:35:52 AM »
Just a game, chill up

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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2009, 10:54:45 AM »
Perfect.
I'm going to be in Japan from the 26th and on.

Probably going to be a nightmare all over again trying to get a spot to play...

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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2009, 11:04:02 AM »
A PC port without netplay would basically put the scene in a difficult position of choosing between an outdated PS2 version or a logistical nightmare on PC.

What do you mean? PC means less shit to carry around, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2009, 11:13:02 AM »
A PC port without netplay would basically put the scene in a difficult position of choosing between an outdated PS2 version or a logistical nightmare on PC.

What do you mean? PC means less shit to carry around, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
At big tourneys there will always be TVs supplied, making it a lot easier to setup and play with ps2.  With laptops there's always the potential for lcd screen lag and converter input lag, etc.  Also converters are easily lost/stolen in the mass of players.  All in all it's not that much different, but running big events certainly feels easier with ps2 than it did with mbac pc.  Plus, playing your game on laptops just makes it feel more poverty somehow.  =\
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2009, 11:16:20 AM »
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 11:30:37 AM »
No PC port, no hype.

I don't understand this shit at all.

The PS2 port has always brought in more people to the community, it makes running tournaments undeniably easier, and now we'll literally be playing the same game as Japanese (for those that care).

Why bother waiting for the PC version? You realize mauve is NOT making a client for it, right?

Stop waiting and start fucking playing. This year's NEC proved to me that 'oh my scene has noone' don't mean jack shit anymore.

It gets a lot easier to say this when you actually have local scene. I'm curious to know if you'd be saying the same thing if your closest casual competition was 6 hours and $100 away.
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Re: MBAA Final Tuned
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2009, 02:38:12 PM »
I'm calling F-ciel rape NOW (provided she receives ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGES).

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