Author Topic: MBAA Tiers (Read 129296 times)

Van_Artic · « **Reply #50 on:** May 03, 2009, 04:16:22 AM »

despite she got nerfed, C-Hisui is the best

Irysa · « **Reply #51 on:** May 03, 2009, 02:19:55 PM »

but

office chair

;_;

Van_Artic · « **Reply #52 on:** May 03, 2009, 04:09:01 PM »

Quote from: Irysa on May 03, 2009, 02:19:55 PM

but

office chair

;_;

fuck yeah, more chairs, that's what i like of Hisui
these chairs. these chairs. these chairs. these chairs. these chairs. these chairs. these chairs!

i am not criminal

F9|Chibi · « **Reply #53 on:** May 03, 2009, 04:29:21 PM »

Quote from: Irysa on May 03, 2009, 02:19:55 PM

but

office chair

;_;

Is a huge ass disappointment.

What the FUCK were they thinking, seriously.

llama_egg · « **Reply #54 on:** May 03, 2009, 05:15:51 PM »

Quote from: Irysa on May 03, 2009, 02:19:55 PM

but

office chair

;_;

Wait what?

GameKyuubi · « **Reply #55 on:** May 03, 2009, 05:34:39 PM »

Hay guys can we talk about F Arcueid now? 236A/B seems pretty good, what else does she have?

HRGS|忍 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 03, 2009, 05:59:04 PM »

F-Arc is mad linear for too much damage. Not surprised of where she is on the tier list.

236A/B is all she got going dmg wise w/ the occasional elbow pressure. Even tho the damage is good, she seems to require some lvl of execution to pull out her true damage. Talking 4.5-5k range. Plus it seems people just stopped trying to do 2C -> 236B loop in the corner so yeah, she's on some execution shit that you need to be on too for F-Arc.

C-Arc on the other hand, got some options overall. Not surprised on her placing too.

Some of the good things that C-Arc has compared to H/F are charged 236A/B (H has this too, but F dont) that is very good for pressure, air ring tricks, and some good buffs on her normals. Plus, I think C and H-Arc are supposed to treated as pressure/tricks more than F which is just straight power. C-Arc combos require quite a bit of execution too but isn't too bad if you actually played Arc in AC. They have the same combos almost.

I'm so sad that no one has played H-Arc lately. I think she hasn't been tapped in and turned gay like C-Arc and F-Arc have.
I haven't seen much of her teleport (all moons have it) so it might be ass compared to Warc's.

GameKyuubi · « **Reply #57 on:** May 03, 2009, 10:46:03 PM »

Teleport is borderline useless. F-Arc seems like she has the shittiest 5A in existence, air moves suck pretty bad too. Best bet it seems is to stay on the ground and use 22A/B/C as a punish when possible. I haven't played too much AA, but most blockstrings involving 236A/B do pretty good guard damage. The hitbox on 236A/B is huge. I think most of her good pressure comes from the threat of breaking your opponent's guard bar.

LoliSauce · « **Reply #58 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:39:04 AM »

Wow, after watching a decent Hisui player that was linked in chat today, F Hisui's not quite so bunz as Chibi makes her sound. She's no top tier, but her ladles are furious, her basic chair is good as ever, and her ex Ladder is beast both as a reversal and for the corner ex Ladder loop. Ladder loop is pretty hype, I must say. It gets off 5k+ damage and looks pretty sexy while it's at it. Her normal bnb seems pretty weak though. Something like low 3k damage? =\ Her chair pressure is definitely inferior to H Hisui's stool game, but I'm just saying F Hisui doesn't seem to be complete crap.

Irysa · « **Reply #59 on:** May 04, 2009, 11:59:40 PM »

what

ladder loop? links

Mistwraith · « **Reply #60 on:** May 05, 2009, 10:55:23 PM »

Well personally I tried most of the H modes character in the arcade against my friends, and I believe most of them are actually decent. I don't get why Akiha drops till such a low extent on the tier list, given her H-Mode still has decent pressures, I know her jC was nerfed but it is still a lethal move in her arsenal. Her dmg was nerfed well being that you need to know how to link all her moves together to hit that 4.5k to 4.7k dmg.

Tier list are just tier list, end of the day, it is the players' job to make the characters they are using to shine out from the rest. If you like what you are playing, just don't bother with the tier list

I appreciate all the different modes so I can actually fool around with instead of being stuck playing 1 mode over and over again

LoliSauce · « **Reply #61 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:44:33 AM »

Quote from: Irysa on May 04, 2009, 11:59:40 PM

what

ladder loop? links

Oh, I don't have the link anymore. Hopefully Psy can remember which it was and link it, since he's usually the man when it comes to that shit.

LoliSauce · « **Reply #62 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:02:23 AM »

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6940518 < LADDER LOOP

Courtesy of Psybrade

ShinMasaki · « **Reply #63 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:34:21 AM »

oh damn, i missed it at first because i blinked, but 5500 from ex ladder loop combo is rather nice. now, if H Hisui had that to add to her stools, i think we'd be set.

Ultima66 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:33:32 AM »

That EX Ladder combo requires a Heat Cancel.

F9|Chibi · « **Reply #65 on:** May 07, 2009, 06:05:25 PM »

Yeah, color me unimpressed, sorry.

She has three stools on Kouma in the corner at one point, that's infinitely more intimidating then a chair she can't really rely on fully.

J.C in F whiffs the closer you are to your opponent, making it inferior to H / C.

Needing heat cancel to do over 4k is horribly situational.

And all of her mix ups in that vid are available in H / C as well.

I'll admit that having an actual option on wake up is nice, but this guy literally mashed his way out of everything anyway.

I'll take superior spacial control and proper tech punishing over a passable gimmick.

DivineArc · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2009, 06:51:34 PM »

Quote from: 黒洋 - SShinobi on May 03, 2009, 05:59:04 PM

C-Arc on the other hand, got some options overall. Not surprised on her placing too.
Some of the good things that C-Arc has compared to H/F are charged 236A/B (H has this too, but F dont) that is very good for pressure, air ring tricks, and some good buffs on her normals. Plus, I think C and H-Arc are supposed to treated as pressure/tricks more than F which is just straight power. C-Arc combos require quite a bit of execution too but isn't too bad if you actually played Arc in AC. They have the same combos almost.

I'm so sad that no one has played H-Arc lately. I think she hasn't been tapped in and turned gay like C-Arc and F-Arc have.
I haven't seen much of her teleport (all moons have it) so it might be ass compared to Warc's.

This guy is hella cool now

I like my execution with arc and I played her since MB so yeah, and I like gimmicky tools like teleports and her 214 connections look really fun to boot. Not to mention she can combo 236 from wallslam combos so pretty much C-Arc is fun H-Arc is a mystery atm and F-Arc is zzzzzz But either way Im playing all three when AA comes home.

She pretty much has the tools that I always wish she'd had before.

Pfhor · « **Reply #67 on:** May 08, 2009, 12:30:05 PM »

Quote from: 黒洋 - SShinobi on May 03, 2009, 05:59:04 PM

I'm so sad that no one has played H-Arc lately. I think she hasn't been tapped in and turned gay like C-Arc and F-Arc have.
I haven't seen much of her teleport (all moons have it) so it might be ass compared to Warc's.

Harc is one of the most zzzzzzzzzz characters ever. I'd rather watch a good Htohno.

GameKyuubi · « **Reply #68 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:57:23 PM »

Quote from: LoliSauce on May 07, 2009, 12:02:23 AM

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6940518 < LADDER LOOP

Courtesy of Psybrade

12:55 Hisui combo is lolz.

Psylocke · « **Reply #69 on:** July 05, 2009, 02:15:19 PM »

This month's issue of Arcadia has an MBAA tier list made by top Shiki player はと(Hato), here is Versus City's (very bad) translation of it
http://www.versuscity.net/2009/06/30/arcadia-august-tier-list-trouble/

..Yeah, you'll notice Akiha is in 3 places and Kohaku in 2 places on that list, not to mention Shiki and Hisui being completely absent. Luckily, I have the text from the original page, so here a better translation
アルカランク

神吸血シオンH
S メカヒスイC
A ネロFH、志HC、琥珀CH、都古CF、七夜C、ヒスコハCF
B 青子FH、悪アルクC、赤秋葉F、翡翠H、白レンF、さつきC、シオンC、アルクF
C シエルC、キシマF、リーズF、ワラキアC、秋葉CH、ロアHF、レンH、猫C

God: H-VSion
S: C-Mech Hisui
A: F/H-Nero, H/C-Shiki, C/H-Kohaku, C/F-Miyako, C-Nanaya, C/F-Maids
B: F/H-Aoko, C-Warc, F-VAkiha, H-Hisui, F-WLen, C-Satsuki, C-Sion, F-Arc
C: C-Ciel, F-Kouma, F-Ries, C-Wara, C/H-Akiha, H/F-Roa, H-Len, C-Neco

LordPangTong · « **Reply #70 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:23:05 PM »

Wow, is that for real? C-Ciel... is C Tier? WTF. And how can C-Sion be B tier when no one plays her...

AkiraTheMastodon · « **Reply #71 on:** July 06, 2009, 06:01:07 PM »

lolol
God: H V Sion

LoliSauce · « **Reply #72 on:** July 06, 2009, 08:58:59 PM »

Random character styles are just missing?

Van_Artic · « **Reply #73 on:** July 07, 2009, 04:56:10 AM »

God: H-VSion
S: C-Mech Hisui

i would put F-Miyako at S, but i agree

Chie Satonaka · « **Reply #74 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:14:20 PM »

The last tier list was more accurate IMO. F-Kouma and H-Akiha being C tier is lol. I can see C-Ciel being where she's at. Not to say where she was before was wrong ( Although F-Ciel's should've close to her and I thought she should've been B+ tier )

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Author Topic: MBAA Tiers (Read 129296 times)