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MBAA Tiers
« on: April 28, 2009, 06:39:10 PM »
2009/10/5 EDIT: Editing this post to include the tier lists that have been the most accepted on the jp mbaa bbs, so that people can see how they've shifted over time.  All these lists are for arcade Version A, so they may not necessarily apply to Original Balance mode of the PS2 version.

Final MBAA Ver. A tier list, made by Hato right before Current Code's release.  Published in September 2010 issue of Arcadia magazine
S: Shiki Tohno, Kohaku, Hisui&Kohaku
A: VSion, Mech, Miyako, Nero
B+: Akiha, Warc, Wara, Ciel, Aoko, VAkiha, Nanaya
B: Arc, Ries, WLen, Satsuki, Hisui, Kouma, Sion
C: Len, Roa

2009/10/3
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S  H琥珀  HVシオン H志貴 Cメカ

A+  Fヒスコハ C琥珀 C志貴 CF都古 HFネロ

A  C七夜 Cワルク Fアルク F青子 F赤主 Cネロ F志貴 F琥珀 Cヒスコハ 

B  CHF秋葉 F白レン Fコウマ CH翡翠 Cシエル Fリーズ HFメカ H都古 HF七夜 Hヒスコハ FVシオン
   Cワラキア Hシオン Hさつき H赤主 Hロア CH青子 Hレン CHアルク HFワルク  
   
C  その他、猫   


全スタイルランク、S~Aまでは妥当だと思う。
S: H-Kohaku H-VSion H-Shiki C-Mech
A+: F-Maids C-Kohaku C-Shiki C/F-Miyako H/F-Nero
A: C-Nanaya C-Warc F-Arc F-Aoko F-VAkiha C-Nero F-Shiki F-Kohaku C-Maids
B: C/H/F-Akiha F-WLen F-Kouma C/H-Hisui C-Ciel F-Ries H/F-Mech H-Miyako H/F-Nanaya H-Maids F-VSion C-Wara H-Sion H-Satsuki H-VAkiha H-Roa C/H-Aoko H-Len C/H-Arc H/F-Warc
C: Everybody else, Neco

2009/6/29 Tier list done by top Shiki player はと(Hato), eventually published in August issue of Arcadia magazine.  Bad translation of it here at Versus City
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アルカランク

神 吸血シオンH
S メカヒスイC
A ネロFH、志HC、琥珀CH、都古CF、七夜C、ヒスコハCF
B 青子FH、悪アルクC、赤秋葉F、翡翠H、白レンF、さつきC、シオンC、アルクF
C シエルC、キシマF、リーズF、ワラキアC、秋葉CH、ロアHF、レンH、猫C
God: H-VSion
S: C-Mech Hisui
A: F/H-Nero H/C-Shiki C/H-Kohaku C/F-Miyako C-Nanaya C/F-Maids
B: F/H-Aoko C-Warc F-VAkiha H-Hisui F-WLen C-Satsuki C-Sion F-Arc
C: C-Ciel F-Kouma F-Ries C-Wara C/H-Akiha H/F-Roa H-Len C-Neco

2009/3/6 First tier list on JBBS that attempts to separate all the moon phases
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HVシ Cメカ HC志貴 Fネロ H琥珀 F都古
A+
C七夜 Cワルク
FC軋間 CHネロ CF琥珀 Fメカ

A-
Fヒスコハ CH都古 Fワルク F白 H七夜 Cシエル C青子 Fアルク
F赤主 Hロア Cさつき F志貴 HFシオン C翡翠

B+
CHF秋葉 CHヒスコハ HFリーズ FCVシ H赤主 F七夜
Hワルク H翡翠 CFワラキア HCアルク FHシエル Hメカ Cシオン H軋間 CH白 F青子

B-
Hワラキア HFレン Cリーズ Fロア Hさつき F翡翠 H青子 C赤主

C+
Fさつき Cレン Cロア
S: H-VSion C-Mecha H/C-Shiki F-Nero H-Kohaku F-Miyako
A+: C-Nanaya C-Warc
A: F/C-Kouma C/H-Nero C/F-Kohaku F-Mecha
A-: F-Maids C/H-Miyako F-Warc F-WRen H-Nanaya C-Ciel C-Aoko F-Arc F-VAkiha H-Roa C-Satsuki F-Shiki H/F-Sion C-Hisui
B+: C/H/F-Akiha C/H-Maids H/F-Ries F/C-VSion H-VAkiha F-Nanaya
B: H-Warc H-Hisui C/F-Wara H/C-Arc F/H-Ciel H-Mecha C-Sion H-Kouma C/H-WRen F-Aoko
B-: H-Wara H/F-Ren C-Ries F-Roa H-Satsuki F-Hisui H-Aoko C-VAkiha
C+: F-Satsuki C-Ren C-Roa

2009/2/23 First credible MBAA Ver.A tier list posted by Kanna on the jp mbaa bbs.
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キャラランク(そのキャラの1番強いと思うスタイルでのランク)
猫アルクは強い弱い関係なしに欄外
A、B、Cで分ける(個人的にVER.Bよりも差がないと感じるので)
Aを3点、Bを2点、Cを1点として加算。




A:Vシオン(59)、メカ翡翠(58)、志貴(54)、ネロ(54)、七夜(53)、琥珀(53)
B:都古(49)、ワルク(41)、ヒスコハ(40)、アルク(40)、白レン(38)、翡翠(38)、シエル(37)、軋間(36)、青子(36)、リーズ(35)、さつき(35)、赤主(34)、シオン(32)、ロア(31)、秋葉(30)、ワラキア(30)
C:レン(23)

参加者(敬称略):かんな、レイ、かいまーと、うどんげ、丸やん、SAT、芳乃、がる、シュウ、めっしい、ジン、キリト、ぶぶ、平田、ぼぶ、するめ、にく、新屋、深空、洋



聞いてない人に会った際にランクを聞いてまた更新する可能性もありますが、おそらく更新はしないと思われます。
Compiled by 20 top jp players, characters were rated from A(3 points) to C(1 point)
Players: Kanna, Rei, Kaimaato, Udonge, Maruyan, SAT, Yoshino, Garu, Shuu, Messhii, Jin, Kirito, Bubu, Hirata, Bobu, Surume, Niku, Niiya, Misora, You

A: VSion(59), Mech Hisui(58), Shiki Tohno(54), Nero(54), Nanaya(53), Kohaku(53)
B: Miyako(49), Warc(41), Hisui&Kohaku(40), Arcueid(40), White Ren(38), Hisui(38), Ciel(37), Kouma(36), Aoko(36), Ries(35), Satsuki(35), VAkiha(34), Sion(32), Roa(31), Akiha(30), Warachia(30)
C: Ren(23)
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 07:03:01 PM »
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 07:13:21 PM »
Is Wara's average really that low? I thought C and F were both very solid.

Comments:

S: H-VSion C-Mecha H/C-Shiki F-Nero H-Kohaku F-Miyako
C Shiki is a bit surprising. I thought people like H a lot more for Shiki. I always thought F Nero was a bit stronger than H because of better pokes and lockdown, and now apparently so do other people. C Mech and F Miyako damage is crazy.

A+: C-Nanaya C-Warc
Strange. I never see people really playing C Nanaya. C Warc though I expected to be top or close to top because she's still just as solid with even better stuff than MBAC.

A: F/C-Kouma C/H-Nero C/F-Kohaku F-Mecha
And I never see people play Kouma any more either, or F Mech. But yeah, all of these looked strong when people used them regularly in Joybox videos.

A-: F-Maids C/H-Miyako F-Warc F-WRen H-Nanaya C-Ciel C-Aoko F-Arcueid F-VAkiha H-Roa C-Satsuki F-Shiki H/F-Sion C-Hisui
I never thought F Maids would end up this high, especially over Half or Crescent. And I haven't seen anyone touch C/H Miyako or pretty much any Sion either. It's nice to see Hisui is still pretty solid even though she got nerfs from MBAC. Also I think Sacchin actually moved up a tier. Also BANANA SHIKI.

B+: C/H/F-Akiha C/H-Maids H/F-Ries F/C-VSion H-VAkiha F-Nanaya
Wow Akiha is this low now? That's actually a bit unusual to me because I think she's stronger than she was in MBAC by a little, while Hisui got weaker, and Akiha was top in MBAC so... Everything else looks like how I expected, except maybe F Nanaya seems a little low.

B: H-Warc H-Hisui C/F-Wara H/C-Arcueid F/H-Ciel H-Mecha C-Sion H-Kouma C/H-WRen F-Aoko
I though C/F Wara were much higher, like I said, but eh. Wlen and Aoko were really low in MBAC, so I guess it shouldn't surprise me that they're B tier in this game when they got buffed quite a bit, but B sounds a bit low at the same time since there's just so many characters above them.

B-: H-Wara H/F-Ren C-Ries F-Roa H-Satsuki F-Hisui H-Aoko C-VAkiha
F Len always looked much better in videos, but I guess a lot of that is just because the F Len players are solid. Still, seems like most of the Len players feel like F is the best style, so I expected it to be higher.

C+: F-Satsuki C-Ren C-Roa
Eh, besides Denpa playing F Sacchin, no one really plays these characters over other styles. No surprises, and Denpa calls Sacchin bottom tier anyways when she wasn't in MBAC. Now he can actually play bottom tier.

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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 07:36:56 PM »
He kicks ass with a lowest tier character.  :mystery:
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 07:47:27 PM »
I've yet to see any good F-Len videos to inspire me to pick her up again. Only her aegis reflectors are gimmicky fun.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 08:21:11 PM »
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C: Ren(23)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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C+: F-Satsuki C-Ren C-Roa


No

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akiha is way too low on that list imo, she should be at least A
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 08:44:57 PM »
What I saw:

Mech is top, Len is bottom.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 08:48:12 PM »
PS. Where's our cat princess?

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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 08:54:32 PM »
Neco is actually a pretty nice improvement over MBAC, they made her hitbox even smaller, made her attack hitboxes bigger, etc.

NA always had pretty good nice strings/mixups, even a fuzzy, she was just really limited by her range and zoning capability. That's still kind of prevelant, but I'd hazard a guess she might actually be pushing a B Minus. H seems lacking though, the F airdash doesn't seem good enough to make up for the other stuff either, but idk.

There're like no serious neco players around anyway, so it's kind of hard for them to gauge it.
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 08:59:35 PM »
Well, I guess this justifies me liking F-Chaos over any of the Ciel types when I was trying it out at AI when I was down there.
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 09:00:50 PM »
Always wanted to see serious neco players, figured it would be entertaining to say the least.

Also; isn't is sad Sacchin?

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 09:10:49 PM »
Len low tier is infuriating.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 11:33:47 PM »
Always wanted to see serious neco players, figured it would be entertaining to say the least.

Also; isn't is sad Sacchin?

Denpa cheers her up  :V
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2009, 03:06:53 AM »
Poor C-V.Akiha got so horribly fucked over in MBAA, lol

I was surprised to see H-Kohaku top tier, actually.  I haven't seen much of her over Full or Crescent, so I figured she wasn't too special over them.

It's funny to see how much the tiers have changed though since Yukinose's vanilla tiers where iirc Kouma was the only character whose best style wasn't Half.
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 03:44:06 AM »
The only thing I see weird is that Akiha is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low. She should be at least "A" Tier. Then again, it's not like these tiers will be in stone seeing that the PS2 version will be out soon and with Ryougi Shiki (and possibly more characters and character changes ) the tiers can be shuffled around a bit.

That is..unless they make Ryougi like SF4 console characters and make her as shallow as possible.
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 03:47:39 AM »
Did C-Nanaya get changed in ver.A? When MBAA first came out all the american nanaya players were crying about how his 2B and 5C were nerfed and he sucks horribly now. So was he buffed in ver.A or is this another classic case of american players being wrong about everything?
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2009, 03:54:34 AM »
Did C-Nanaya get changed in ver.A? When MBAA first came out all the american nanaya players were crying about how his 2B and 5C were nerfed and he sucks horribly now. So was he buffed in ver.A or is this another classic case of american players being wrong about everything?

Maybe it's because I don't hang out in any of the IRC channels or I'm watching some different matches than you guys, but when was ANYONE complaining about Nanaya being nerfed? LOL sucking horribly now....really? I could have sworn he was doing perfectly from the matches I was seeing.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 03:56:04 AM »
Did C-Nanaya get changed in ver.A? When MBAA first came out all the american nanaya players were crying about how his 2B and 5C were nerfed and he sucks horribly now. So was he buffed in ver.A or is this another classic case of american players being wrong about everything?

Maybe it's because I don't hang out in any of the IRC channels or I'm watching some different matches than you guys, but when was ANYONE complaining about Nanaya being nerfed? LOL sucking horribly now....really? I could have sworn he was doing perfectly from the matches I was seeing.

when MBAA first came out i was getting hype over c-nanaya's buffed 5B and how its really useful and several people (including jiyuna and magikarp and some others i think) proceeded to lecture me about how his 2B and 5C have been super nerfed and hes a lot worse now and etc etc etc

but like i said this was back when it was first released, maybe it changed for ver.A?
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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 04:09:10 AM »
Did they nerf anything else major about Akiha other than the applies-to-everyone h-moon system mechanics? If so, what? The huge drop in tier surprises me too...

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Re: MBAA Tiers
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 04:43:41 AM »
Can F-Kohahisui use counters?

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2009, 05:06:36 AM »
1) F-Roa should be switched over C-Roa

2) B- for F-Ren? are they serious? she would fit at A-

3) agreeing for H-VSion, C-Mech, F-Nero, F-Miyako

4) H/F-Kouma is a little bit better than C-Kouma, he was too strong in MBAC

5) sad to see Hisui so nerfed, she's my second main in MBAC, no wonder why F-Maids kicks ass

6) BANANA SHIKI should be S++ :D
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2009, 05:10:19 AM »
Neat!  The character I currently main in the moon style I planned to use is top tier!!

Hopefully they do not rebalance the game when it comes out for the PS2.

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2009, 05:28:58 AM »
Neat!  The character I currently main in the moon style I planned to use is top tier!!

Hopefully they do not rebalance the game when it comes out for the PS2.

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they're gonna rebalance it, but it will be possible to choose the arcade balancing, and the new PS2 balancing
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2009, 05:53:06 AM »
Oh, also.  F-Maids are only A-?  The videos of them that Sibla posted made them look a whole hell of a lot better.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2009, 06:51:53 AM »
VSion. Why am I not surprised?
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