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Misaki Town Bakery => Melty Blood Auditorium => : Dipstick December 26, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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While previously a rumor that had been popping up on the Interwebs for the last few days, this is now confirmed in the latest issue of Arcadia (http://www.kobayan.jp/images/arcadia/arcadia0902-01l.jpg): Melty Blood: Actress Again will not be appearing at the newest Tougeki tournament.
What. The. Christ.
Anyone want to come up with reasons as to why MB got dropped over 5-7 games that are less popular? This is almost certainly political in nature (if anyone has followed the dealing of ****** **** over the last two years, this is not a surprise), but why? Did Sega/Ecole get outmaneuvered by Capcom here? Is Sega looking to punish Ecole for releasing the game so late? Did Akiha call Enterbrain's bluff in regards to some kickbacks they wanted?
This makes no sense. :psyduck:
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I'm as bummed out as you are.
There is a few reasons I can think of as to why this might of happened:
1 Maybe the DVD didn't sell well enough? I know that the sales are part of it.
2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.
3 Perhaps Capcom has more pull than Ecole so they decided to go with FUC instead.
Still sucks though.
It makes me happy though that I decided to purchase this years DVD seeing as how it'll be the last year. Seeing Kou & Kubo winning it all was beyond awesome. A V.Akiha winning it just makes me smile.
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2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.
Having been playing F/UC for only a week, it is apparent that this is so patently wrong it hurts. If anything, this game plays like HnK sans some of the system functions (airdashes, boosts, IKs).
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2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.
um
what
they're completely different games
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This may also be a big part of the reasoning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ezdvxRLVI&feature=channel_page (see about a minute in)
I have to disagree. FUC reminds me so much of melty. I can see the HNK comparison but still more MB to me.
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Have you heard of MBAA Ver.A
You know, that patch that is supposed to fix that?
Unless that is ver.A and it wasn't fixed, but I SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY doubt that.
And fuc is maybe like a totally, totally broken MBAC with no balance at all and different mechanics.
Oh wait, that means they're pretty different.
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Its strange how AA is ranked the third most popular game in arcadia as well...
Only being beaten by Tekken 6BR and Gundam vs Gundam.
Yes, AA is more popular than BB right now.
BB is at 5th place for most popular.
dont think i will watch SBO this year except for BB
If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :slowpoke:
whut.
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TvC isn't going to do shit in the market over there, the game won't last a year.
Also, F/UC does not play like MB.
I think this most definitely has something to do with Capcom. Not putting in the third most popular game in arcades right now is retarded, but whatever, SBO is SBO, and I'm actually really looking forward to F/UC matches.
:3
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3S AIN'T DEAD.
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As much as I love Capcom, they just gained a grudge from me. D:
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Fate/UC I don't really mind (though I still would have preferred MBAA over it), but Tatsunoko vs Capcom is a dumb choice for SBO. Either Capcom had some pull here or Ecole is on bad terms with SBO for some reason, simple as that.
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I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game, if things turn out well it might be reinstated or at least in the following SBO, but considering version A just came out not too long ago they probably aren't willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's been going long enough without having something absurdly broken crop up.
That having been said, what the hell @ tatsunoko vs capcom, that game is terrible. Why would they have that there.
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I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game
what is unlimited codes doing there then
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^ The same would have to be said about HnK. It was at SBO for TWO years (not consecutive).
I honestly don't think timing is an issue either. ver.A being released now is plenty of time for the players to get up to speed. And besides, iirc last SBO, VF5R was used and it had only been released 2-3 weeks prior to the event. There's definitely some dirty politics going on here.
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Man, at least Type-Moon/Ecole HAS a game on there.
Poor SNK got the dick in the ass.
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At least there isn't Sengoku Basara X. :psyduck:
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At least there isn't Sengoku Basara X. :psyduck:
good lord that game is so bad
holy shit.
tatsunoko hell yeah
space lance
./sarcasm
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I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game, if things turn out well it might be reinstated or at least in the following SBO, but considering version A just came out not too long ago they probably aren't willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's been going long enough without having something absurdly broken crop up.
I'd agree. You can't deny the broken crap in AA was too obvious, and it took them too long to put out Ver.A. Going into Tougeki with it right now, after the silliness that was the beta, I don't think is a safe bet at all. That doesn't seem logical to anyone else? If the game was shown and the event turned out stupid, both the tournament and the game would lose face. Who knows, maybe even Ecole requested to be excluded.
And on that note, I don't get why everyone's so certain that Capcom's to blame for this. I mean, people are developing grudges and everything..
That having been said, what the hell @ tatsunoko vs capcom, that game is terrible. Why would they have that there.
I disagree here, but I can see that the TvC hate is crazy-strong in this forum, so...
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No because Arcana Hearts 1 was in a similar situation but had its patch released in April and it was still in SBO.
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And they had fucking MBAC in there, with Sion infinites up the ass and noone gave a damn really.
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And they had fucking MBAC in there, with Sion infinites up the ass and noone gave a damn really.
...true :-\
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The worst part about all this is, not being in SBO would dramatically reduce the melty scene, given a lot of matches we see are regional qualifiers for SBO. Hell, even the smaller tournies are done in preparation for SBO.
Oh well, there's still, DF2, was it?
Tatsunoko and FUC are lousy choices for the line up.
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teh tvc hate
i've played tvc like three times in the arcade and i mean, it's fine and all but seriously this game is not THAT great.
Who knows, maybe even Ecole requested to be excluded.
why would they request it to be removed that's retarded
aside from chara infs, I think the only other prob with AA was just balance issues between styles and beefing/nerfing characters
and about the whole Shield thing with crescent, it's listed in the latest arcadia that one of the weaknesses for crescent is it's shielding ability
crescent can do "anything" according to the mag [anything as in dodge/circuitspark when you want etc.] , but drawbacks are lack of shield counter, and shield being overall weak.
a whole graph is laid out with each styles strengths and weaknesses
so it looks like it was more of just balancing things out than just weakening it straight up
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Tom better not play Crescent. :V
Also, Akira, props for Askai song in your sig.
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Who knows, maybe even Ecole requested to be excluded.
why would they request it to be removed that's retarded
What's so retarded about it? Do you think there aren't some business-minded people in Ecole nowdays, who'd have an interest in the game -not- looking like shit on a nation-wide event? Considering all the changes that they had to do for Ver.A, it's possible some suits in Ecole might have advised against it. A conservative decision like that makes a little more sense to me than Capcom conspiracies.
Be fair... if you saw the equivalent of Ciel's full-screen black-keys infinite, Akiha corner infinites and game freezing glitches in version 1 in -any- game, how much money would you put on the version 2 that came out last week? If it was TvC, people here would say it's shit :V
aside from chara infs, I think the only other prob with AA was just balance issues between styles and beefing/nerfing characters
Come on, that's like everything important in the game :P you really think you're being fair here?
Anyway, I don't have any evidence for anything, I don't think anyone does. I'm just attempting to be a voice of reason here.
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Be fair... if you saw the equivalent of Ciel's full-screen black-keys infinite, Akiha corner infinites and game freezing glitches in version 1 in -any- game, how much money would you put on the version 2 that came out last week?
Because people quit capcom after A3's V-ism infinites, snk after every kof, guilty gear never got popular, hnk didn't get that second year in sbo, and no-one played the marvel series.
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Because people quit capcom after A3's V-ism infinites, snk after every kof, guilty gear never got popular, hnk didn't get that second year in sbo, and no-one played the marvel series.
Well, it's not really about there not being absolutely anything broken. There are levels of 'broken'; it'd be about how much, and how badly limiting, and how obvious it is to everyone else watching. Most people can tell when something's embarrasingly messed up.
Everyone will decide for themselves if the broken-ness in those games you mentioned is as feasable, visibly apparent, or as numerous, as the things seen in AA.
Anyway, I'll probably just leave it at that. Happy new year, everyone.
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I think HnK getting a second year at SBO really defines how little they care about broken ass games. 11 second rounds, comboing into IKs, etc. And I think you're trying to defend a little too hard if you say that balancing tweaks is any reason not to put a game into SBO. Every fighter constantly goes through balancing tweaks. It'd be impossible NOT to have to work on balancing when you added in nearly triple the content in a fighting game sequel. The simple fact is that even with infinites, there is a pretty significant number of characters showing up in the top of tourneys. I'd say that's a hell of a lot more balanced that some big name fighters out there.
I can understand you trying to stand up for Capcom, and really it's not anyone's place to claim it's them shouldering Ecole to the side. I'm near certain that no company would be stupid enough to pull their game out of an event as big as SBO, though. Ever heard the phrase "any publicity is good publicity"? A game making noise, whether good or bad, still brings notice. That's exactly what Ecole would want to do right now, especially since MBAA has managed to garner a surprising amount of popularity.
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Be fair... if you saw the equivalent of Ciel's full-screen black-keys infinite, Akiha corner infinites and game freezing glitches in version 1 in -any- game, how much money would you put on the version 2 that came out last week? If it was TvC, people here would say it's shit
Course I'm being fair.
Considering I've played BOTH the original and VerA, I can at least say I've "been there/done that"
If you want to go on listing, might as well dump in H Aoko's retardedness.
I have been caught in these infinites, but I didn't really care. I still played anyway.
At least one thing shows. Ecole put out a patched version pretty fast. Anything that was broken, is now fixed.
Characters like Roa who sucked absolute shit in the original are now at least playable.
yada yada.
verA is DAMN good compared to the original.
In the words of ILS...
"MBAA has become a great game now."
Come on, that's like everything important in the game you really think you're being fair here?
Anyway, I don't have any evidence for anything, I don't think anyone does. I'm just attempting to be a voice of reason here.
Again, yeah I think I'm being pretty fair.
Also, Akira, props for Askai song in your sig.
A.Dogma...another godly work by Asaki.
God bless that artist.
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Everytime I watch match vids I think it sucks that this game won't be in SBO.
I mean, I like playing fate but honestly watching it has already become boring as shit. I rather watch Super Turbo even.
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The infinites don't make MBAA/Ecole look stupid. There were infinites before and the game was still in SBO. And look at games like Hokuto no Ken which was in SBO... it had all those infinites as well and it was still in the line up.
SBO hardly represents the top fighting games nowadays, it's more of a marketing event now for companies to promote their games as a 'top fighter.'
And missing out on SBO this year, so does that mean that we'll be seeing a port soon? Since arcade sales or whatever are sure to take a dip?
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I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game
what is unlimited codes doing there then
Unlimited Codes has annoyingly broken-ass combos, but no character has an easily accomplished infinite(and as far as I've seen I believe the infinites that were in the game have long since been removed by rebalancing. Saber's, for example). Certainly the combos are rather over the top, but no moreso than guilty gear(hello Slayer).
HnK getting two years at SBO honestly did confuse me when it happened, but still, that game requires some execution difficulty. There's a difference between an infinite that requires strict execution(See Denpa's Satsuki infinite in MBAC B2) as an infinite that is just mashing one button repeatedly more or less(Ciel Key infinite in MBAA). You can look at HnK and, even though the game is broken, at least look at a player and see that he didn't win purely by spamming one broken move, he had to learn how to play the game. That's true as well of F/UC, which is also an execution-heavy long-ass combo centric game much like HnK(although in my opinion it is arguably far more balanced than HnK ever was). It's even true of MvC2 despite how much I dislike that game. People do not win major tournaments just by mashing buttons.
MBAA in it's original incarnation was far far too broken to be considered playable in a competetive scene. Now it isn't, but that probably stressed Tougeki's trust in the game, and I imagine they're taking a "wait and see" approach currently.
As for MBAC Ver. A's Sion infinite, well, yeah, that was dumb as all hell. Perhaps that whole fiasco is the reason they're being so reluctant to have a second recurrence of that?
As for TvC, well, I don't like the game, but I am not fond of any of the vs Capcom series other than CvS2, that's a personal dislike.
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The infinites don't make MBAA/Ecole look stupid. There were infinites before and the game was still in SBO. And look at games like Hokuto no Ken which was in SBO... it had all those infinites as well and it was still in the line up.
SBO hardly represents the top fighting games nowadays, it's more of a marketing event now for companies to promote their games as a 'top fighter.'
And missing out on SBO this year, so does that mean that we'll be seeing a port soon? Since arcade sales or whatever are sure to take a dip?
Why would arcade sales take a dip?
SBO isn't for MONTHS.
As previously said before Version A has been released(for a while now)and fixed the broken crap.
Who is Sylvan? I'm pretty sure F/UC is broken as crap, HnK is even more broken, and TvC(seriously does jp even play this when they hate Mahvel)had 99% combos on the second day after it was released. Are you seriously telling me that pre-patch MBAA was more broken than these games?
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Who is Sylvan?
::)
I'm pretty sure F/UC is broken as crap, HnK is even more broken, and TvC(seriously does jp even play this when they hate Mahvel)had 99% combos on the second day after it was released. Are you seriously telling me that pre-patch MBAA was more broken than these games?
You're really trying to make an argument for pre-patch MBAA? Because I don't think anyone else is attempting that here.
Yes, pre-patch MBAA is certainly more mindlessly broken than those games. 2-attack infinites, game-freezing bugs... definitely, visibly broken.
Seems like most people's assessment of games here is based on their personal preference, and not a very objective consideration of the game's tournament worth. "I have been caught in these infinites, but I didn't really care.", so you cut MBAA slack because you like the game. "As for TvC (..) I am not fond of any of the vs Capcom series other than CvS2, that's a personal dislike."
Preferences are fine; I just thought we were discussing this in different terms. I don't like BlazBlue; that's no reason for me to go around saying it's a terrible game, unfit for Tougeki.
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TvC has aspect ratio specific combos...hope you practice on whatever ratio they pick for sbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl-iBCiLClo
Chars don't need infinities because their combos 100% you
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These are on the char with the lowest life value
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ3zjpPT4fw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCcNu7x-qcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT2dxpwmfGo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okngP08nU4w&feature=channel_page
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infinities?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5732187
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5732475
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100% combos that happen almost every game isn't as broken 60% to time-over that don't happen every game. Sorry guys, MBAA is trash.
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Guys, balance is boring and dumb to watch unless a majority agrees its not. Infnites are broken unless they're fun to watch, execution heavy, and a majority says its okay to do.... or the game has a burst mechanic, then its just loops. We wont know the reason for the decisions made until SBO HIMSELF tells someone why, and that someone publishes it in a magazine, and then that magazine gets scanned onto the internet, and then someone translates it.
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Seems like most people's assessment of games here is based on their personal preference, and not a very objective consideration of the game's tournament worth. "I have been caught in these infinites, but I didn't really care.", so you cut MBAA slack because you like the game. "As for TvC (..) I am not fond of any of the vs Capcom series other than CvS2, that's a personal dislike."
Preferences are fine; I just thought we were discussing this in different terms. I don't like BlazBlue; that's no reason for me to go around saying it's a terrible game, unfit for Tougeki.
I'm actually a little offended that you pick out the few arguements based on personal opinion and completely ignore every objective comment that has been posted on the matter. How much empirical evidence do you need highlighting the broken aspects of TvC and FUC, SBO's history with games that have just released or have been very broken, or even simply comparing MBAA to these points to show that MBAA is a very worthy contender for this year's SBO before you will recognize any of it? Sure, this is a Melty Blood forum, and there will be some blind faith towards it, but a good bit of us are making valid points in favor of MBAA being in SBO. Truly objective comments don't just leave all bias on the sidelines, they also need to acknowledge all the facts.
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"I have been caught in these infinites, but I didn't really care.", so you cut MBAA slack because you like the game. "
Sure I cut it some slack. Does it matter?
Not like my opinion is the only one.
Im pretty sure everyone else might mind though.
It sounds like right now all you're trying to do is pick arguments with people already.
You won't get anywhere with that, especially since everyone in this thread is just going to disagree with you.
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I'm actually a little offended that you pick out the few arguements based on personal opinion and completely ignore every objective comment that has been posted on the matter.
Well the argument I'd previously been making, on all my other posts, doesn't ignore any objective statements. I actually think I'd replied to most of the non-redundant arguments at the time of my last post, and I did agree that the Sion infinites in Tougeki make a case for disregarding MB's balance.
Hopefully you don't think the 4 lines I wrote about people's bias, in tone of personal opinion, nullifies the rest of my posts where objective statements weren't ignored. I do suppose the implied reach of my last segment was too big (I'd said "most people's assessment", that may be too broad). I'd apologize, if that's what was wrong. I'm not trying to pick fights.
In the end, I'd already really said about everything I had to say on the issue, so I'd take back that stuff on my last post if it upsets anyone.
Though If someone shows up and specifically asks me if I think that pre-patch MBAA is more broken than certain other games, I might come by to say it is :bleh:
Sure I cut it some slack. Does it matter?
Well, you originally wrote that in response to my asking you if you though you were being fair.
If you're being fair, you're not "cutting slack". That's being biased; that's the opposite of fair.
And no, I'm not trying to pick fights with anyone.
Chars don't need infinities because their combos 100% you
Nothing makes a statement like 5-super, assist-dependant, exhibition-style corner combos that require 20% Baroque, against the character with the lowest defense (Karas), in a game with a burst technique.
(before someone quotes me for exactness, yes I know not all of those combos are using everything I just mentioned, but several of them are and none of them are practical.. also aspect-ratio-specific combos are pretty retarded, yeah) ;D
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Who is Sylvan?
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I'm pretty sure F/UC is broken as crap, HnK is even more broken, and TvC(seriously does jp even play this when they hate Mahvel)had 99% combos on the second day after it was released. Are you seriously telling me that pre-patch MBAA was more broken than these games?
You're really trying to make an argument for pre-patch MBAA? Because I don't think anyone else is attempting that here.
Yes, pre-patch MBAA is certainly more mindlessly broken than those games. 2-attack infinites, game-freezing bugs... definitely, visibly broken.
Seems like most people's assessment of games here is based on their personal preference, and not a very objective consideration of the game's tournament worth. "I have been caught in these infinites, but I didn't really care.", so you cut MBAA slack because you like the game. "As for TvC (..) I am not fond of any of the vs Capcom series other than CvS2, that's a personal dislike."
Preferences are fine; I just thought we were discussing this in different terms. I don't like BlazBlue; that's no reason for me to go around saying it's a terrible game, unfit for Tougeki.
To be fair I was pointing out that I disliked TvC for personal reasons and conceding I hadn't played it or watched it enough to actually give an unbiased opinion on whether it was balanced or not. that said, I don't like the game because it literally is just MvC1 all over again with different characters. Capcom's first party fighting games really need to go out and stretch their legs a bit imo instead of just rehashing the same game all over again(at least MB and GG/BB actually are trying to develop new stuff to use).
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Personally, I'm more surprised that they kept Arcana Heart in the mix considering the bitch move that Yuki Enterprises pulled last year with the Arcana Heart Full "Upgrade" (that was really just a patch but charged $1400 for it). Ecole deserves a lot of credit for patching bugs in arcade releases free of charge.
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The infinites don't make MBAA/Ecole look stupid. There were infinites before and the game was still in SBO. And look at games like Hokuto no Ken which was in SBO... it had all those infinites as well and it was still in the line up.
SBO hardly represents the top fighting games nowadays, it's more of a marketing event now for companies to promote their games as a 'top fighter.'
And missing out on SBO this year, so does that mean that we'll be seeing a port soon? Since arcade sales or whatever are sure to take a dip?
Why would arcade sales take a dip?
SBO isn't for MONTHS.
Obviously I meant arcade sales over the year. Not being in SBO would mean less hype / less events for the game. Qualifications happen over the course of months leading up to SBO. Which in return would result in less people playing the game. It's just an assumption of mine anyways, not fact.
I just hope that a port comes out next year, so I can actually play the game in all its broken goodness XD.
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Chars don't need infinities because their combos 100% you
Nothing makes a statement like 5-super, assist-dependant, exhibition-style corner combos that require 20% Baroque, against the character with the lowest defense (Karas), in a game with a burst technique.
(before someone quotes me for exactness, yes I know not all of those combos are using everything I just mentioned, but several of them are and none of them are practical.. also aspect-ratio-specific combos are pretty retarded, yeah) ;D
I was thinking the same thing.
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I've played TVC, it's incredibly incredibly fun to just mess around in. The whole presentation, the graphics and sound and everything is just fantastic. It's possibly one of the most well-presented fighting games ever, along with CvS2 and GGAC.
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
EPIC LOL
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
Well played, sir. Well played.
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
Wins don't come much more epic than this...
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
Actually that video is the reason its at SBO!
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Personally, I'm more surprised that they kept Arcana Heart in the mix considering the bitch move that Yuki Enterprises pulled last year with the Arcana Heart Full "Upgrade" (that was really just a patch but charged $1400 for it). Ecole deserves a lot of credit for patching bugs in arcade releases free of charge.
I bought the DVD and I have to say the matches on the AH2 are beyond awesome. They're sooo fun to watch. I'm glad they kept it. I can't imagine seeing the stuff on the DVD live and the whole crowd just not going nuts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yMAVhhLNGQ
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I'm not saying AH2 is a bad game at all. It might be more solid than MBAA. I just don't like how the publishers tried to sleaze extra money and caused a situation a while back where half the qualifier locations could only run AH instead of AHF because they couldn't afford the upgrade.
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well yea that is a shiesty move but i'd say the majority of video game companies are in it for the money.
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well yea that is a shiesty move but i'd say the majority of video game companies are in it for the money.
Isn't that why you set up a company at the first place? To earn monies. :toot:
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Well considering that SBO is a business first and foremost, there's nothing to be surprised about.
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Well considering that SBO is a business first and foremost, there's nothing to be surprised about.
There's nothing surprising about the fighting game with the second-highest coin drop rate in Japan being passed over?
Wait, what?
It very well could be a business-related decision (ie: Ecole/Sega's licensing terms could be so onerous that it really could price them out), but something else is going on here.
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Capcom shelled out the big bucks to get the slot?
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Capcom shelled out the big bucks to get the slot?
What's stopping them from just running 10 games?
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They got bought the fuck out, plain and simple.
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Isn't it sad, Ecole?
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I've played TVC, it's incredibly incredibly fun to just mess around in. The whole presentation, the graphics and sound and everything is just fantastic. It's possibly one of the most well-presented fighting games ever, along with CvS2 and GGAC.
I'm with Sabator on this. I accept the game is a broken ass pile of crap but all the bad design seems to flow away when you play like a scrub with some friends.
I think F/UC falls under a similar category really. It's not that great a game in expanded terms, but it really is fun to play if you give it the chance. Don't ask me how.
This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
lol
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This is why nobody likes TvC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwf67gJw77k
lol
Olol. I just died laughing. Brilliant.
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They got bought the fuck out, plain and simple.
I'm surprised nobody caught that. Chibi is right. We also have to remember SBO is more for entertainment than a real tournament. Think about it. It's almost a 2 day advertisement, with old popular games randomly thrown in there, or people paying out of pocket to keep games in (cough3s.) It could very well be that MBAA is just not as entertaining to watch. Look at the competition. You have Crazy combo fighters, the greatest thing to the FG community since SF2, and juggling sheep.
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Have you heard of MBAA Ver.A
You know, that patch that is supposed to fix that?
Unless that is ver.A and it wasn't fixed, but I SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY doubt that.
And fuc is maybe like a totally, totally broken MBAC with no balance at all and different mechanics.
Oh wait, that means they're pretty different.
I laughed at your post. You've obviously never played FUC or you've never played melty blood to a level beyond mashing out 2c with kohaku.
FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far. Sion is more poorly balanced alone than anything in FUC. At least in FUC the bullshit ended up on everyone and not just a few characters.
You know what? Let's be realistic. Melty blood is complete ass to look at, and what with the gameplay in actress again being completely shit would YOU keep it around?
SBO's real purpose is to put on a show to be watched, after all. Don't get me wrong, I love playing melty blood- but honestly it's not much better to watch than SF2, and ecole doesn't have capcom's kind of bribe money.
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
what
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
Go back to troll school.
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
Melty blood is complete ass to look at, and what with the gameplay in actress again being completely shit would YOU keep it around?
BLASPHEMY :slowpoke: :V :prinny:
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Damn......
FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
Go back to troll school.
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
Go back to troll school.
Thankfully your username pretty much sums up your complete lack of judgement. Go back to youtube markyjoe.
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
Go back to troll school.
Thankfully your username pretty much sums up your complete lack of judgement. Go back to youtube markyjoe.
Oh good one, attack his username.
Seriously, MBAA is defintely more balanced then FUC. Gilgamesh on his own is enough proof for that statement. Noone in MBAA even compares to the options and advantages he gets in FUC, not even close.
Not that I care, I play both games anyway, but you sound like you're talking out of your ass anyway.
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FUC is more balanced than Melty blood by far.
0/10. Obvious troll is obvious.
Go back to troll school.
Thankfully your username pretty much sums up your complete lack of judgement. Go back to youtube markyjoe.
oh wow, attacking someone due to a username to defend your terrible troll
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Hasuko, I didn't know you play MUGEN?
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Thankfully your username pretty much sums up your complete lack of judgement. Go back to youtube markyjoe.
Hasuko, I didn't know you play MUGEN?
Lolwhat? My name's from Time Hollow, which shows its age. I haven't changed it lately. /shrug
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Hasuko, I didn't know you play MUGEN?
¿Cómo está? KAAAAAAYLAAAAAA!
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1. MBAA sucks
2. Nobody here plays MBAC anyway
3. Why do you care?
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2. Nobody here plays MBAC anyway
3. Why do you care?
I agree. Although I can't agree with MBAA sucking because the hype this game is getting isn't even from people who even play the game let alone actually say something positive about MB in general and if no one played MBAC we wouldn't have Chibi trying to convince Larry to put MBAC back in the lineup so clearly some, not a lot, are still willing to play MBAC.
But, its not like it matters or anything since most of the MB players here will shit on it at the drop of a hat knowing damn well they still play MBAC and will still play MBAA ::)
and Thana clearly doesn't know anything about EITHER of the games balances when half the cast in F/UC have infinites, Rider dibble reps with....2-MUTHA FUCKIN' A!!!!!!!!11111oneELEVEN! and Gilgamesh has a one button infinte? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSu-suLg7w Come on now? Really? And you say MBAC/A is shitty to look at? We all know its the cool thing to shit on MBAC and all, but if you're really gonna shit on MBAC do it right. Lurk in #MBAC moar.
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i admit that im only a casual player but damn.... MB kicks shit alright, the only downfall of this game is its shitty character sprites lol, havent encountered another title that'd compete with its gameplay, it focuses more on tactics and positioning.
iv'e played some of those arcades like sf3s,tekken6,ggac,mvc2 etc... and imo, graphic wise , they'd beat the MB franchise anytime, however MB's gameplay contents makes out for it. and about fuc, ive already played it and really enjoyed it at first, but then i realized that juggling in this game is even worse than tekken lol.... its got cool graphics but thats that, its combos are really hard to crack but hell, you'll get sick of watching the same combos again and again for an hour or two. you'll just need to time your first strike then bam! juggle all the way, heck ive seen a shirou player draining almost 80% of his opponents life lol, he couldn't even do mana burst (kinda like circuit spark) at that time :psyduck: :slowpoke:
but yeah... its just an opinion from a casual gamer ::)
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the only downfall of this game is its shitty character sprites lol
I personally find the sprites to be very good and they actually have smooth animation, unlike nearly any other fighter.
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They're high detail but low resolution. They may also use a higher framecount than some other games (a higher number of sprites that last less frames in a single animation of the same length).
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ITT: Lies, ignorance, and trolling. HOW CAN YOU TELL?
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and Thana clearly doesn't know anything about EITHER of the games balances when half the cast in F/UC have infinites, Rider dibble reps with....2-MUTHA FUCKIN' A!!!!!!!!11111oneELEVEN! and Gilgamesh has a one button infinte? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSu-suLg7w Come on now? Really? And you say MBAC/A is shitty to look at? We all know its the cool thing to shit on MBAC and all, but if you're really gonna shit on MBAC do it right. Lurk in #MBAC moar.
half the cast is an overstatement, and they aren't true infinites if you can burst them. On top of that, nobody has figured out how to replicate that Gilgamesh infinite, you can't tk cancel 2c except in activation, and the scoop invalids after 3 of them as well.
Seriously, I have no clue how the fuck it works.
Also, Rider's dribble does fuckawful damage, and can only be done at max activation. Rider in general has terrible damage and extremely high priority/speed/etc.
Not saying FUC is actually balanced compared to MBAA, but it's not THAT bad.
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and Thana clearly doesn't know anything about EITHER of the games balances when half the cast in F/UC have infinites, Rider dibble reps with....2-MUTHA FUCKIN' A!!!!!!!!11111oneELEVEN! and Gilgamesh has a one button infinte? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSu-suLg7w Come on now? Really? And you say MBAC/A is shitty to look at? We all know its the cool thing to shit on MBAC and all, but if you're really gonna shit on MBAC do it right. Lurk in #MBAC moar.
half the cast is an overstatement, and they aren't true infinites if you can burst them. On top of that, nobody has figured out how to replicate that Gilgamesh infinite, you can't tk cancel 2c except in activation, and the scoop invalids after 3 of them as well.
Seriously, I have no clue how the fuck it works.
Also, Rider's dribble does fuckawful damage, and can only be done at max activation. Rider in general has terrible damage and extremely high priority/speed/etc.
Not saying FUC is actually balanced compared to MBAA, but it's not THAT bad.
I have to agree.
Fuc is NOT BALANCED as MB, but the game is not bad at all:
1) Do combos 100% of the time at FUC is far far far far far far FAR more difficult than MB: the only game with the same combo execution difficulty of FUC is GG;
2) Gilgamesh sure as lot of advantages respect the others characters, but he is NOT invincible by any means;
3)Dark Sakura is the worst character in the game, but with very good execution (aka baloon setup) she can deal 4300 dmg with only 100% (out of 300%) bar.
Fuc has a good System: it has burst, counters, RC. I will repeat myself ,but I will say it again: the game is diffucult and very fun:it deserves SBO.
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FUC is awsome. How can you not love an updated evil zone?
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FUC is awsome. How can you not love an updated evil zone?
You bastard. I had happily locked away any memories of that existing.
~M
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just convince sbo staff to put in 2.009A already
no need AA or AC already lololol
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I'm not saying AH2 is a bad game at all. It might be more solid than MBAA. I just don't like how the publishers tried to sleaze extra money and caused a situation a while back where half the qualifier locations could only run AH instead of AHF because they couldn't afford the upgrade.
This just happened again, 1000 for the new AH2 patch and its required for SBO.
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off topic but kind of related.
just to let you guys know, SBO 08'd DVD is on sale @ PA right now http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-a120-71-7x-49-en-84-j-70-2x30.html
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Well considering that SBO is a business first and foremost, there's nothing to be surprised about.
There's nothing surprising about the fighting game with the second-highest coin drop rate in Japan being passed over?
Wait, what?
It very well could be a business-related decision (ie: Ecole/Sega's licensing terms could be so onerous that it really could price them out), but something else is going on here.
Where do you have that info from, if i may ask.
If there's some kind of ranking list i'd like to have a look please. Thanks
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Ask and ye shall receive.
http://www.arcadiamagazine.com/
Currently at third.
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While we're spouting conspiracies, I bet EXAMU is in cahoots with SBO, announcing that AH is in SBO and then releasing mandatory billion dollars patch if you want your arcade to be frequented for prelims. :V
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If the 'infinite' in question requires precise timing, does it still constitute as an exploit? :mystery:
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Doesn't matter if it's an exploit or not.