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MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« on: December 26, 2008, 10:24:18 AM »
While previously a rumor that had been popping up on the Interwebs for the last few days, this is now confirmed in the latest issue of Arcadia: Melty Blood: Actress Again will not be appearing at the newest Tougeki tournament.

What. The. Christ.

Anyone want to come up with reasons as to why MB got dropped over 5-7 games that are less popular? This is almost certainly political in nature (if anyone has followed the dealing of ****** **** over the last two years, this is not a surprise), but why? Did Sega/Ecole get outmaneuvered by Capcom here? Is Sega looking to punish Ecole for releasing the game so late? Did Akiha call Enterbrain's bluff in regards to some kickbacks they wanted?

This makes no sense.  :psyduck:
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2008, 11:30:42 AM »
I'm as bummed out as you are.

There is a few reasons I can think of as to why this might of happened:

1 Maybe the DVD didn't sell well enough? I know that the sales are part of it.

2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.

3 Perhaps Capcom has more pull than Ecole so they decided to go with FUC instead.

Still sucks though.

It makes me happy though that I decided to purchase this years DVD seeing as how it'll be the last year. Seeing Kou & Kubo winning it all was beyond awesome. A V.Akiha winning it just makes me smile.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 11:37:55 AM »
2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.

Having been playing F/UC for only a week, it is apparent that this is so patently wrong it hurts. If anything, this game plays like HnK sans some of the system functions (airdashes, boosts, IKs).
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2008, 11:44:18 AM »
2 If you've played FUC you'll insantly recognize that it's exactly the same as Melty Blood with 3D graphics instead of airdashes. Down right to even the heat gauge.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2008, 12:39:04 PM »
This may also be a big part of the reasoning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ezdvxRLVI&feature=channel_page (see about a minute in)

I have to disagree. FUC reminds me so much of melty. I can see the HNK comparison but still more MB to me.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2008, 01:16:33 PM »
Have you heard of MBAA Ver.A
You know, that patch that is supposed to fix that?

Unless that is ver.A and it wasn't fixed, but I SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY doubt that.

And fuc is maybe like a totally, totally broken MBAC with no balance at all and different mechanics.

Oh wait, that means they're pretty different.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2008, 04:40:02 PM »
Its strange how AA is ranked the third most popular game in arcadia as well...
Only being beaten by Tekken 6BR and Gundam vs Gundam.
Yes, AA is more popular than BB right now.
BB is at 5th place for most popular.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2008, 04:45:00 PM »
TvC isn't going to do shit in the market over there, the game won't last a year.

Also, F/UC does not play like MB.

I think this most definitely has something to do with Capcom. Not putting in the third most popular game in arcades right now is retarded, but whatever, SBO is SBO, and I'm actually really looking forward to F/UC matches.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2008, 06:46:31 PM »
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2008, 09:32:52 PM »
As much as I love Capcom, they just gained a grudge from me. D:
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 03:42:26 AM »
Fate/UC I don't really mind (though I still would have preferred MBAA over it), but Tatsunoko vs Capcom is a dumb choice for SBO. Either Capcom had some pull here or Ecole is on bad terms with SBO for some reason, simple as that.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2008, 10:08:05 AM »
I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game, if things turn out well it might be reinstated or at least in the following SBO, but considering version A just came out not too long ago they probably aren't willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's been going long enough without having something absurdly broken crop up.

That having been said, what the hell @ tatsunoko vs capcom, that game is terrible.  Why would they have that there.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2008, 12:54:06 PM »
I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2008, 01:12:25 PM »
^ The same would have to be said about HnK. It was at SBO for TWO years (not consecutive).

I honestly don't think timing is an issue either. ver.A being released now is plenty of time for the players to get up to speed. And besides, iirc last SBO, VF5R was used and it had only been released 2-3 weeks prior to the event. There's definitely some dirty politics going on here.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2008, 01:19:34 PM »
Man, at least Type-Moon/Ecole HAS a game on there.

Poor SNK got the dick in the ass.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2008, 03:22:07 PM »
At least there isn't Sengoku Basara X.  :psyduck:
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2008, 11:52:30 PM »
At least there isn't Sengoku Basara X.  :psyduck:
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2008, 04:40:47 PM »
I think the number of broken combos and infinites in MBAA's original release version really strained their trust in the game, if things turn out well it might be reinstated or at least in the following SBO, but considering version A just came out not too long ago they probably aren't willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until it's been going long enough without having something absurdly broken crop up.
I'd agree. You can't deny the broken crap in AA was too obvious, and it took them too long to put out Ver.A. Going into Tougeki with it right now, after the silliness that was the beta, I don't think is a safe bet at all. That doesn't seem logical to anyone else? If the game was shown and the event turned out stupid, both the tournament and the game would lose face. Who knows, maybe even Ecole requested to be excluded.
And on that note, I don't get why everyone's so certain that Capcom's to blame for this. I mean, people are developing grudges and everything..

That having been said, what the hell @ tatsunoko vs capcom, that game is terrible.  Why would they have that there.
I disagree here, but I can see that the TvC hate is crazy-strong in this forum, so...
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2008, 06:07:31 PM »

No because Arcana Hearts 1 was in a similar situation but had its patch released in April and it was still in SBO.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2008, 08:40:28 PM »
And they had fucking MBAC in there, with Sion infinites up the ass and noone gave a damn really.
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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2008, 09:11:48 PM »
And they had fucking MBAC in there, with Sion infinites up the ass and noone gave a damn really.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2008, 09:59:32 PM »
The worst part about all this is, not being in SBO would dramatically reduce the melty scene, given a lot of matches we see are regional qualifiers for SBO. Hell, even the smaller tournies are done in preparation for SBO.

Oh well, there's still, DF2, was it?

Tatsunoko and FUC are lousy choices for the line up.

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2008, 04:35:10 AM »
teh tvc hate
i've played tvc like three times in the arcade and i mean, it's fine and all but seriously this game is not THAT great.

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Who knows, maybe even Ecole requested to be excluded.
why would they request it to be removed that's retarded

aside from chara infs, I think the only other prob with AA was just balance issues between styles and beefing/nerfing characters

and about the whole Shield thing with crescent, it's listed in the latest arcadia that one of the weaknesses for crescent is it's shielding ability
crescent can do "anything" according to the mag [anything as in dodge/circuitspark when you want etc.] , but drawbacks are lack of shield counter, and shield being overall weak.
a whole graph is laid out with each styles strengths and weaknesses
so it looks like it was more of just balancing things out than just weakening it straight up

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2008, 07:37:16 AM »
Tom better not play Crescent. :V

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Re: MB:AA to NOT appear at SBO 2009
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2008, 01:59:19 PM »
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why would they request it to be removed that's retarded
What's so retarded about it? Do you think there aren't some business-minded people in Ecole nowdays, who'd have an interest in the game -not- looking like shit on a nation-wide event? Considering all the changes that they had to do for Ver.A, it's possible some suits in Ecole might have advised against it. A conservative decision like that makes a little more sense to me than Capcom conspiracies.

Be fair... if you saw the equivalent of Ciel's full-screen black-keys infinite, Akiha corner infinites and game freezing glitches in version 1 in -any- game, how much money would you put on the version 2 that came out last week? If it was TvC, people here would say it's shit :V

aside from chara infs, I think the only other prob with AA was just balance issues between styles and beefing/nerfing characters
Come on, that's like everything important in the game :P  you really think you're being fair here?

Anyway, I don't have any evidence for anything, I don't think anyone does. I'm just attempting to be a voice of reason here.

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