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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2010, 05:17:24 PM »
i'm quite skeptical at vakiha being S-tier, there weren't any notable buffs aside from increased AD untechable time, jC knockdown for crescent and faster j236B startup for half.

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2010, 06:00:29 PM »
That's only from PS2 to CC, they're dealing with the WHOLE change.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2010, 06:24:21 PM »
i'm quite skeptical at vakiha being S-tier, there weren't any notable buffs aside from increased AD untechable time, jC knockdown for crescent and faster j236B startup for half.

Not really that unreasonable to suggest that she's S, though this is a little early for a tier list.  While so many characters had their big damage nerfed, FVakiha retained her big damage.  In midscreen it costs her meter to get her big damage.  An almost universal damage nerf makes life a lot easier for VAkiha since her defense is so low.  She has strong zoning, respectable pressure, and simple effective mixups.  Meaty tk puffball beats wakeup heat, OS throw tech, mashing, and almost every reversal. 

And in the last MBAA tier list

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A+: F-Maids C-Kohaku C-Shiki C/F-Miyako H/F-Nero

A: C-Nanaya C-Warc F-Arc F-Aoko F-VAkiha C-Nero F-Shiki F-Kohaku C-Maids

Most of the characters ranked above her got nerfed; many of them very badly.  Not really all that surprising that she would move up.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2011, 06:46:21 PM »
I'll be the one to break the ice sry

Has there been any character rankings from arcadia or anything as of late? Stuff that doesn't matter to me since I'll never be able to play this game but I thought it would be nice to know.

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2011, 12:32:31 PM »
Yeah I'm wondering about changes too to see if JP has discovered anything interesting with the characters.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2011, 01:22:03 PM »
You might remember that ECOLE said UNIB will be featured in an Arcadia issue,your best bet is to wait for it,even though it might or might not have an MBAACC tierlist.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2011, 09:38:01 AM »
Since the game was just patched, I'm curious - what do the final tiers for prepatch MBAACC look like?

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2011, 11:34:30 AM »
For the most part, they were exactly the same.  They were agreed upon by pretty much everybody so Kiriya never got around to asking 20 players.  I do remember Leo posting his own personal list though, which was also more or less the same, except with him putting Ryougi and Ries at A.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 AM »
Powered Ciel should be top tier.Not to say that for me she is a bit overpowered.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2011, 10:21:42 PM »
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion so fast. Besides Day 1 Powerd Ciel I haven't seen her winning remarkably and it's to be expected that people don't yet know how to deal with a new character. I will however place $5 on Kohaku and Maids coming up as S rank.

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2011, 01:55:59 PM »
So, no new tier lists so far?  ???
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2011, 12:13:47 AM »
Character ranking that is generally agreed upon by the Japanese BBS right now
S Kohaku PCiel HisuKoha Ryougi
A+ Shiki Arc Nanaya Warc Satsuki Miyako Len Aoko
A Everybody else
A- VSion Mech-Hisui

There's also a note about the characters Nero, Hisui, Sion, and Akiha.  Curbeh translated it as "Depends on the person (player) but these would fall out from A ranking".

Kanna's list
A+ Leo's Ryougi(he really wrote this lol), PCiel
A Everybody else
A- VSion

SAT's list
A+ Kohaku HisuKoha Ryougi PCiel
A Everyobdy else
A- (Nero) Mech-Hisui VSion

Nero is special to SAT(obviously), so there's some note explaining why he thinks Nero is hovering between A- and A.  I don't really feel like translating it...
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2011, 12:54:47 AM »
A+ Leo's Ryougi(he really wrote this lol)

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Ryougi at S is a bit surprising but the rest of the list makes sense.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2011, 07:28:20 AM »
S Kohaku PCiel HisuKoha Ryougi
A+ Shiki Arc Nanaya Warc Satsuki Miyako Len Aoko
A Everybody else
A- VSion Mech-Hisui

There's also a note about the characters Nero, Hisui, Sion, and Akiha.  Curbeh translated it as "Depends on the person (player) but these would fall out from A ranking".

Kanna's list
A+ Leo's Ryougi(he really wrote this lol), PCiel
A Everybody else
A- VSion

SAT's list
A+ Kohaku HisuKoha Ryougi PCiel
A Everyobdy else
A- (Nero) Mech-Hisui VSion

Nero is special to SAT(obviously), so there's some note explaining why he thinks Nero is hovering between A- and A.  I don't really feel like translating it...

Wow, they must really be having trouble with Ryougi. She does have some improvements since the last version.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2011, 10:19:54 AM »
People at the arcades treat Ryougi players like shit according to Komidol lol

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2011, 10:34:53 AM »
Except for Leo, that's pretty much true. 
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2011, 10:47:57 AM »
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Kanna's list
A+ Leo's Ryougi(he really wrote this lol), PCiel
A Everybody else
A- VSion

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2011, 10:50:31 AM »
People at the arcades treat Ryougi players like shit according to Komidol lol

Very hated character.

Will I be treated like shit since I'm switching to her? :/

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2011, 11:12:03 AM »
S Kohaku PCiel HisuKoha Ryougi
A+ Shiki Arc Nanaya Warc Satsuki Miyako Len Aoko
A Everybody else
A- VSion Mech-Hisui

There's also a note about the characters Nero, Hisui, Sion, and Akiha.  Curbeh translated it as "Depends on the person (player) but these would fall out from A ranking".

Kanna's list
A+ Leo's Ryougi(he really wrote this lol), PCiel
A Everybody else
A- VSion

SAT's list
A+ Kohaku HisuKoha Ryougi PCiel
A Everyobdy else
A- (Nero) Mech-Hisui VSion

Nero is special to SAT(obviously), so there's some note explaining why he thinks Nero is hovering between A- and A.  I don't really feel like translating it...

Huh, don't think I've seen a tier list that believably puts everyone in just the "A" tier. That's some good balance there.

Except for Leo's Ryougi. That dude needs nerfing.

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2011, 11:19:01 AM »
I don't see why it's a surprise that Ryougi players get treated like shit. It's not untrue for America/MBAA let alone in Japan.

Get used to it or switch to Len... wait...
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2011, 11:27:19 AM »
Nice to see Warc back to her usual(high tier)self.Also I dont know if Nanaya should be in the same pool as killers like Tohno and Arc,but overall,I agree with the lists.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2011, 11:28:38 AM »
S Kohaku PCiel HisuKoha Ryougi

These are the top tier characters?

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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2011, 12:15:30 PM »
I don't really care about tiers so much, but when it comes down to character strength, I'd say Kohaku/PCL/HisuKoha/Ryougi are pretty far from S-tier. 

Remember what a tier is - a comparison of how a character performs in matchups against all other characters (assessing their strength in the game.)  Like Nero in MBAA, P-CL has some really bad matchups.  C/F Koha aren't what they used to be (especially after cactus nerf).  The OTG Relaunch doesn't really benefit either of them too much.  OKAY PFHOR SHUT UP I DON'T EAT SLEEP AND BREATHE HAGI/IEDA C-KOHA VIDS

Maybe a bit of a different story for Hisu-Koha/Ryougi.  Same can be said for Hisu/Koha about cactus, but I don't think it effects them as badly, and Ryougi getting buffs is pretty crazy.  Maybe they're up there, but I don't think any of them are straight up unfair.  Like Kanna and Sat said, it's probably a A+/A/A- difference at best. 

I'd say Seifuku and Satsuki are floating up there around Hisu-Koha and Ryougi, personally.  Satsuki's normals are much better now, and Seifuku's carry you to corner from anywhere and do 5k feels bad man.
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Re: MBAACC Tiers
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2011, 12:18:10 PM »
Remember what a tier is - a comparison of how a character performs in matchups against all other characters (assessing their strength in the game.)  Like Nero in MBAA, P-CL has some really bad matchups.  C/F Koha aren't what they used to be (especially after cactus nerf).  The OTG Relaunch doesn't really benefit either of them too much. 

Did you just say OTG relaunch doesnt really benefit C-Koha?
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« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2011, 01:07:14 PM »
I don't really care about tiers so much, but when it comes down to character strength, I'd say Kohaku/PCL/HisuKoha/Ryougi are pretty far from S-tier. 

Remember what a tier is - a comparison of how a character performs in matchups against all other characters (assessing their strength in the game.)  Like Nero in MBAA, P-CL has some really bad matchups.  C/F Koha aren't what they used to be (especially after cactus nerf).  The OTG Relaunch doesn't really benefit either of them too much. 

Maybe a bit of a different story for Hisu-Koha/Ryougi.  Same can be said for Hisu/Koha about cactus, but I don't think it effects them as badly, and Ryougi getting buffs is pretty crazy.  Maybe they're up there, but I don't think any of them are straight up unfair.  Like Kanna and Sat said, it's probably a A+/A/A- difference at best. 

I'd say Seifuku and Satsuki are floating up there around Hisu-Koha and Ryougi, personally.  Satsuki's normals are much better now, and Seifuku's carry you to corner from anywhere and do 5k feels bad man.

I think in general, most players just don't know what to do about Ryougi's gimmicks (this is judging from the match vids of Ieda and Leo). That combined with her buffs I can see the high ranking.

Once they figure out the gimmicks I think she'll drop back down to A tier.