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Misaki Town Bakery => Melty Blood Auditorium => : demotivator2221 April 25, 2010, 10:24:07 PM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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hi guys, I stumbled on information about unused character his name is Powerd Ciel, his art looks like a normal art Ciel :V
(http://i3.fastpic.ru/big/2009/1023/60/3789cdadbce4709c60765f6483a24d60.jpg)
Maybe somebody knows more information about this character?
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high chance its fake
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Executioner Ciel was hacked out of and playable in MBR. It's probably real and just found in some weird files on the disc.
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I found it here http://forum.unseen64.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1969
His name Powered Ciel, unfortunately the game does not start after select it
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Whoever this guy is he looks pretty strong.
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That's MBAA's version of Executioner Ciel. I recall seeing it in a video before.. she's not playable though.
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this guys powered wiener must be giant
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HIS name is powered ciel....
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ok, thanks
I have bad english, I'm Italian ::)
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Yeah, back in MBR, if you played... it was probably Arcueid's path in arcade mode, Executioner Ciel was a boss character you fought, who just had like moves that were like her arc drive, had permanent super armor, and couldn't jump. It looks like there were plans to put this back into PS2 MBAA (Boss Rush?), as there is Powerd Ciel (typo is intentional and how it is spelled in game) art, a little thing for the character select screen and so on, but yeah you can't actually play as her. Never got fully put in or something.
I never did figure out how to play as that funky huge Neco Arc though, which I wanted to do D:
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Yeah, back in MBR, if you played... it was probably Arcueid's path in arcade mode, Executioner Ciel was a boss character you fought, who just had like moves that were like her arc drive, had permanent super armor, and couldn't jump. It looks like there were plans to put this back into PS2 MBAA (Boss Rush?), as there is Powerd Ciel (typo is intentional and how it is spelled in game) art, a little thing for the character select screen and so on, but yeah you can't actually play as her. Never got fully put in or something.
I never did figure out how to play as that funky huge Neco Arc though, which I wanted to do D:
I did.
(http://darkpulse.project2612.org/meltyblood/actcadenza/Neko%20Chaos%20Black%20G666.png)
And also.
(http://darkpulse.project2612.org/meltyblood/actcadenza/Damien%20Armies.png)
I could probably figure out how to "play" Executioner Ciel and such in MBR with enough time. I know for a fact I can also pick Dust of Osiris in MBAA, as well...
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That's not what I'm talking about (btw there is a boss patch for MBR which gives you W.Len, Neco Arc, Aoko, and Executioner Ciel)
There was a video of debug mode or something for MBAA ps2 and it featured this Neco Arc that was like as big as a regular character, and supposedly this sort of stuff is all in the game lol.
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If we could decrypt the game's CVM file, we could definitely poke around inside. It's basically an encrypted Virtual File System, meaning that while the data is all in one file and intact, the only way to pull data out without decrypting it is to bruteforce search for known data types.
Decrypting it would roughly follow something like this:
- Chop off the first 0x1800 bytes of the file.
- Decrypt the Volume Information/Table of Contents, as follows:
- Extract LBA.
- Figure out how Ecole/CRI encrypted it.
- Decrypt LBA.
- Replace Encrypted LBA with Decrypted LBA.
- Rename it to MEPROFSCVM.ISO.
- ???
- PROFIT!
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Are you planning on trying to decyrpt cvm files ???
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If I had the know-how, I would have already. I've ripped a few files from the CVM (The voices and music) because I know what to search for there, but none of the graphical data.
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If I had the know-how, I would have already. I've ripped a few files from the CVM (The voices and music) because I know what to search for there, but none of the graphical data.
Keep us posted on how your efforts turn out. good luck on the decrypting :)
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...What part of "If I had the know-how, I would have already" did you happen to miss?
I'm not decrypting it. I can't. I don't have the math skills for it. There's enough stuff to push people in the right direction if they're awesome with math and decrypting, but that's not me.
Anyway, the files themselves are not encrypted - that's not the problem. What IS encrypted are the table of contents. Without that, the only way you'll get files off the disc is, as I said, through bruteforcing it.
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...What part of "If I had the know-how, I would have already" did you happen to miss?
I'm not decrypting it. I can't. I don't have the math skills for it. There's enough stuff to push people in the right direction if they're awesome with math and decrypting, but that's not me.
Anyway, the files themselves are not encrypted - that's not the problem. What IS encrypted are the table of contents. Without that, the only way you'll get files off the disc is, as I said, through bruteforcing it.
Well luckly i've done this type of work before. so i'll try working on this. :teach:
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Good luck to you then. If you can figure it out, you get the credit.
That's why the MBAA frame viewer works - the files themselves are not encrypted, just the TOC. To put a rough analogy, it'd be like assembling a book page by page with no index and no page numbers. Possible, just takes lots of work.
If this helps, take a gander here: Some structure info (http://www.gshi.org/wiki/CRI_ROFS).
For the record, the one that applies to MBAA is ROFSROFSBLD Ver.1.52 2003-06-09.
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Good luck to you then. If you can figure it out, you get the credit.
That's why the MBAA frame viewer works - the files themselves are not encrypted, just the TOC. To put a rough analogy, it'd be like assembling a book page by page with no index and no page numbers. Possible, just takes lots of work.
If this helps, take a gander here: Some structure info (http://www.gshi.org/wiki/CRI_ROFS).
For the record, the one that applies to MBAA is ROFSROFSBLD Ver.1.52 2003-06-09.
Well here's an update on my progress. I believe there was 4 total scrapped characters. Not to sure though but i found that executioner ciel file and i guess she was originally planned for the game.
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...I've already managed to dump the file index and every single file out of the cvm. How do you think I made framedisplay?
I didn't actually decrypt it, though. The index can be acquired though, uh, somewhat unconventional means. I ran the game in an emulator, save stated, then grabbed the decrypted indexes out of the state's snapshot of running memory.
Executioner Ciel, or whatever you want to call her, is on character selection slot #19(CSEL_C19.AGI for the image file), inbetween Len and Neko Arc. There is no further data for this character: No text files, no reference in the character lookups. Dummied out, they just didn't get rid of the image file.
Edit: Ah, here we go. She's marked as F_CIEL.
{ "F_CIEL_WIN.TXT", 0x78f, 0x717cd },
// arcade
{ "F_CIEL.ARX", 0xff640, 0x2dbf3 },
{ "F_CIEL.CG2", 0x20578, 0x2ddf2 },
{ "F_CIEL.CPF", 0x2f36c, 0x2de33 },
{ "F_CIEL_C.TXT", 0x1df, 0x2de92 },
// console
{ "F_CIEL.ARX", 0xff640, 0x4e1c4 },
{ "F_CIEL.CG2", 0x20578, 0x4e3c3 },
{ "F_CIEL.CPF", 0x2f36c, 0x4e404 },
{ "F_CIEL_C.TXT", 0x1df, 0x4e463 },
[CharaNo_019]
Name = F_CIEL
File1 = F_CIEL
File2 = 0
CharaFace = 19
Secret1 = 0
Secret2 = 0
IconPos = 0,3
Bg = 1
CursorMove = 18,6,25,5
NameWH = 240,98
StandPos = 0
WinGrpPos = -80
ExChara = 16
Lacking a frame data file, though, and F_CIEL_C.TXT is old-style MBAC format, which means it was never updated.
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...I've already managed to dump the file index and every single file out of the cvm. How do you think I made framedisplay?
I didn't actually decrypt it, though. The index can be acquired though, uh, somewhat unconventional means. I ran the game in an emulator, save stated, then grabbed the decrypted indexes out of the state's snapshot of running memory.
Executioner Ciel, or whatever you want to call her, is on character selection slot #19(CSEL_C19.AGI for the image file), inbetween Len and Neko Arc. There is no further data for this character: No text files, no reference in the character lookups. Dummied out, they just didn't get rid of the image file.
Yea I thought so. It would have interesting if they added her though. I will keep on looking through cvms
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...I've already managed to dump the file index and every single file out of the cvm. How do you think I made framedisplay?
It could have been done without your method if you knew the file formats to look for. That's how I got the ADXs out for the music.
And sure enough, looking at my character chart, 19 does indeed indicate a blank/crash right where you said. So do 21, 24, 26, 27, and presumably 36-50. (As Archetype is 51.)
Hmm. I'd still like to get the data dumped if we can somehow. Or does your method allow for a full disc dump of all the files? If it does, I'd sure like to use it, so something a little more detailed would help.
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it is curious in that there are ways to play as eclipse moons for other characters, and if you can figure out how to check out Eclipse Warc, her projectiles actually are changed in a non-glitchy way. As in, like there were plans and everything :3
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There's actually two types of Eclipse styles... but that'd be getting into very technical details.
Suffice to say there's the "Normal" Eclipse style a la Archetype's, and the "Boss" Eclipse Style, e.g; the secret boss fight with Ryougi.
Problem is, Eclipse is still just plain unbalanced compared to the other styles. But admittingly it is fun to mess around with.
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There's actually two types of Eclipse styles... but that'd be getting into very technical details.
Suffice to say there's the "Normal" Eclipse style a la Archetype's, and the "Boss" Eclipse Style, e.g; the secret boss fight with Ryougi.
Problem is, Eclipse is still just plain unbalanced compared to the other styles. But admittingly it is fun to mess around with.
I got bad memories facing eclipse ryougi :emo: Hell its fun fighting archtype in both crescent and eclipse
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It could have been done without your method if you knew the file formats to look for. That's how I got the ADXs out for the music.
Frame data was stored using a completely new format, unlike MBAC's, and completely custom. Given the size of the packfile and the diversity of the data types, many of which are custom, I call your plan impractical at best and idiotic at worst.
And yes an Eclipse form exists for most characters. There's also a mystery form (_3) that I'm not sure what is for. Additionally these is a set of boss characters (B_AKIHA, B_AOKO, B_ARC, B_HERMES, B_KOHAKU, B_M_HISUI, B_MIYAKO, B_RYOUGI, B_WARAKIA, B_WLEN) that are separate from the other characters.
Actually, here's a complete list of Eclipse modes:
AKAAKIHA_9.TXT B_HERMES_9.TXT CIEL_9.TXT MIYAKO_9.TXT SATSUKI_9.TXT
AKIHA_9.TXT B_KOHAKU_M_9.TXT G_AKIHA_9.TXT NANAYA_9.TXT SHIKI_9.TXT
AOKO_9.TXT B_M_HISUI_P_9.TXT HISUI_9.TXT NECO_9.TXT SION_9.TXT
ARC_9.TXT B_MIYAKO_9.TXT KISHIMA_9.TXT NERO_9.TXT V_SION_9.TXT
B_AKIHA_9.TXT B_RYOUGI_9.TXT KOHAKU_9.TXT RIES_9.TXT WARAKIA_9.TXT
B_AOKO_9.TXT B_WARAKIA_9.TXT LEN_9.TXT ROA_9.TXT WARC_9.TXT
B_ARC_9.TXT B_WLEN_9.TXT M_HISUI_9.TXT RYOUGI_9.TXT WLEN_9.TXT
And Crescent modes:
AKAAKIHA_0.TXT B_WLEN_0.TXT M_HISUI_M_0.TXT S_AKIHA_0.TXT
AKIHA_0.TXT CIEL_0.TXT M_HISUI_P_0.TXT SATSUKI_0.TXT
AOKO_0.TXT G_AKIHA_0.TXT MIYAKO_0.TXT SHIKI_0.TXT
ARC_0.TXT G_CHAOS_0.TXT NANAYA_0.TXT SION_0.TXT
B_AKIHA_0.TXT HERMES_0.TXT NECHAOS_0.TXT V_SION_0.TXT
B_AOKO_0.TXT HISUI_0.TXT NECO_0.TXT WARAKIA_0.TXT
B_ARC_0.TXT KISHIMA_0.TXT NECO_P_0.TXT WARC_0.TXT
B_KOHAKU_M_0.TXT KOHAKU_0.TXT NERO_0.TXT WLEN_0.TXT
B_M_HISUI_P_0.TXT KOHAKU_M_0.TXT RIES_0.TXT
B_MIYAKO_0.TXT LEN_0.TXT ROA_0.TXT
B_WARAKIA_0.TXT M_HISUI_0.TXT RYOUGI_0.TXT
And here's _3, whatever the hell it is. Probably special story mode stuff.
AKIHA_3.TXT HISUI_3.TXT MIYAKO_3.TXT SHIKI_3.TXT WARC_3.TXT
AOKO_3.TXT KISHIMA_3.TXT NANAYA_3.TXT SION_3.TXT WLEN_3.TXT
ARC_3.TXT KOHAKU_3.TXT RIES_3.TXT V_SION_3.TXT
CIEL_3.TXT LEN_3.TXT SATSUKI_3.TXT WARAKIA_3.TXT
Not all of the character entries have complete character data attached.
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using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA! :o
(http://j.imagehost.org/0214/gsdx_20100429232321.jpg)
(http://j.imagehost.org/0816/gsdx_20100429232632.jpg)
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using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA! :o
(http://j.imagehost.org/0214/gsdx_20100429232321.jpg)
(http://j.imagehost.org/0816/gsdx_20100429232632.jpg)
Oh god. G-akiha playable :emo:. weird i didn't see her data when i looked
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmLM2wVkkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmLM2wVkkI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW79hwkig-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW79hwkig-M)
isn't this done with action replay??
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Yes. There is no way to normally do it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmLM2wVkkI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmLM2wVkkI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW79hwkig-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW79hwkig-M)
isn't this done with action replay??
i'm pretty sure it is done with action replay but still lol :psyduck:
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It definitely is. There is no other way to play as a smaller/larger Neco Arc or any of these characters or do any of these things without some sort of memory-editing device such as a Codebreaker or an Action Replay.
If you can emulate it via PCSX2 on your PC though, all you need is a generic trainer/memory editor.
I used to hack codes for stuff like this back in the PS1 days. I'm pretty interested in seeing how this person managed to figure it out. For the "Hang in air" code, for example, he probably figured out how the game decides someone has landed.
That said, it's amusing because Giant Neco-Arc looks like she's flashing Roa with her beams, which is a fucking scary thought.
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For the "Hang in air" code, for example, he probably figured out how the game decides someone has landed.
This can be obtained through debug mode/show movies
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Well of course, but most games, especially console games, have the debug modes removed before they're ever shipped.
If MBAA has such a debug code, I certainly don't know of it, but that doesn't mean it isn't in there. There were whole debug rooms on the retail discs for Final Fantasy VII and VIII on PS1 for example.
This program, then, is very likely some kind of memory trainer that runs with the game (fairly unlikely due to the PS2's fairly limited memory space) or some external trainer that you're using in conjunction with PCSX2.
I'd like to take a look at it, if possible.
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Dark Pulse, look ;D
(http://j.imagehost.org/0407/01_1.jpg)
(http://j.imagehost.org/0732/02_10.jpg)
lol, game does not even version 1.0
(http://j.imagehost.org/0143/03_10.jpg)
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Okay then. Feel free to tell us how to do it, or what you're using to get it. :P
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With this in mind, why would the devs leave unused data within the game disc?
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With this in mind, why would the devs leave unused data within the game disc?
This is actually a really common thing to do if you don't have space concerns.
In development, it's actually a hell of a lot easier to leave stuff in and just disable it than to remove it entirely, because you don't know what might still be depending on that data even if it is theoretically not used.
Example: Hot Coffee.
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And Melty definitely doesn't use a full DVD. It's about 1.5 GB as an ISO IIRC.
Needless to say, there's a whole lot of space.
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Dark Pulse,
AR code debug menu
003d8fb0 00000001
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In the final screen of nero haos can see portrait of Powered Ciel ;D
(http://j.imagehost.org/0962/gsdx_20100504115401.jpg)
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using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA! :o
(http://j.imagehost.org/0214/gsdx_20100429232321.jpg)
(http://j.imagehost.org/0816/gsdx_20100429232632.jpg)
oh man i want them are playable in the PC version :fap:
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I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version
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I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version
PLEASE NOOO :'(
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I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version
PLEASE NOOO :'(
I know it sucks :'( French Bread is to focused on mbaa current code and their blazblue killer to make a pc version. but you never know anything is possible :mystery:
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You know Current Code basically runs on Windows, right?
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You know Current Code basically runs on Windows, right?
Yea i know. We just gotta wait and see if current code will have a pc and/or console release :slowpoke: IMO thats what everyones waitin for.
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Unlikely. Ver. B never hit consoles, after all, but it did make it to PCs, and was only a slight tweak compared to Arcade Ver. B.
It will probably be playable on PCs... someday. Even if not natively, eventually someone will crack the encryption that will no doubt be used on the titles and get it playing, similar to how Blazblue was made to run on PCs.
Anyway, "Not announced" does not equal "Not going to be." The arcade and console scenes for MB are pretty small; most of its original fanbase is still PC. I have faith a PC-native version will eventually get here, and if not, then all it will take is dumping the CF Card of Current Code, then decrypting it.
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(http://i.imagehost.org/0570/gsdx_20100804184522.jpg)
in game 33 character.
30 characters in the character selection menu + 2 boss + Powered Ciel
I hope to someday be able to open rofs archive :(
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Anyway, "Not announced" does not equal "Not going to be." The arcade and console scenes for MB are pretty small; most of its original fanbase is still PC. I have faith a PC-native version will eventually get here, and if not, then all it will take is dumping the CF Card of Current Code, then decrypting it.
Just to note, the majority of the scene in the US is console, and the majority of the scene in JP is arcade (it's still like second or third most popular JP arcade fighter, last I saw). It's just anything outside of those scenes are basically restricted to PC due to netplay necessity.
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Just to note, the majority of the scene in the US is console, and the majority of the scene in JP is arcade (it's still like second or third most popular JP arcade fighter, last I saw). It's just anything outside of those scenes are basically restricted to PC due to netplay necessity.
Yes, I was nice and dumb when I wrote that. :p
(http://i.imagehost.org/0570/gsdx_20100804184522.jpg)
in game 33 character.
30 characters in the character selection menu + 2 boss + Powered Ciel
I hope to someday be able to open rofs archive :(
Yes, this matches up rather nicely with the table I made up while mucking around with the game:
00 - Sion
01 - Arc
02 - Ciel
03 - Akiha
04 - Maids
05 - Hisui
06 - Kohaku
07 - Tohno
08 - Miyako
09 - Wallachia
10 - Nero
11 - VSion
12 - Warc
13 - VAkiha
14 - Mech
15 - Nanaya
16 - G-Akiha
17 - Sacchin
18 - Len
19 - (Crash) (Powered Ciel goes here?)
20 - Neko Arc
21 - (Crash)
22 - Aoko
23 - WLen
24 - (Crash)
25 - Neko Arc Chaos
26 - (Crash)
27 - (Crash)
28 - Kouma
29 - SAkiha
30 - Roastbeef
31 - Roa
32 - Dust
33 - Ryougi
34 - Neko & Mech
35 - Koha & Mech
36 - (Crash)
37 - (Crash)
38 - (Crash)
39 - (Crash)
40 - (Crash)
51 - Archetype
255 - Random
I always wondered why there are gaps in it...
As for the ROFS, you have to figure out the key they used to encrypt the Table of Contents. The files could probably be extracted now via bruteforcing, however; none of the data on it is encrypted, just the TOC.
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Oh my... :slowpoke:
(http://i16.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0207/28/927033a84e42e96bf78aa4b90442e528.jpg)
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First screen looks a reaaly good range high kick with low invincibility.
Second screen is also a good range 2c (same range as wara 2c)
I wonder what kind of moveset she will get. IF she gains her AD as one of her EX drives then what will be her normal AD/Last Arc?
Speculations:
Her special moves maybe some kind of thrusts with Seven, like dash-thrust, anti-air thrust to the air, and ground shake thrust with ground unblockable stuff (EX version) and maybe a command throw.
Also high chance that she will gain super armor on some of her normal/special moves (I assume Full moon Powerd Ciel will have the most)
Well these are my first thoughts.
Relunx
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Is it me,are those 100% copies of Rose st.HK and sweep? Hinting something maybe?
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First screen looks a reaaly good range high kick with low invincibility.
Second screen is also a good range 2c (same range as wara 2c)
I wonder what kind of moveset she will get. IF she gains her AD as one of her EX drives then what will be her normal AD/Last Arc?
Speculations:
Her special moves maybe some kind of thrusts with Seven, like dash-thrust, anti-air thrust to the air, and ground shake thrust with ground unblockable stuff (EX version) and maybe a command throw.
Also high chance that she will gain super armor on some of her normal/special moves (I assume Full moon Powerd Ciel will have the most)
Well these are my first thoughts.
Relunx
My guess is that normal in the first picture is a command normal from the B button, maybe with 6B? The pushback on that normal in a combo looks insane though, so I assume like you do that there must be a special or EX that gives some serious horizontal distance in order to follow up into a lengthy combo. Perhaps a pilebunker? :fap:.
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First screen looks a reaaly good range high kick with low invincibility.
Second screen is also a good range 2c (same range as wara 2c)
I wonder what kind of moveset she will get. IF she gains her AD as one of her EX drives then what will be her normal AD/Last Arc?
Speculations:
Her special moves maybe some kind of thrusts with Seven, like dash-thrust, anti-air thrust to the air, and ground shake thrust with ground unblockable stuff (EX version) and maybe a command throw.
Also high chance that she will gain super armor on some of her normal/special moves (I assume Full moon Powerd Ciel will have the most)
Well these are my first thoughts.
Relunx
My guess is that normal in the first picture is a command normal from the B button, maybe with 6B? The pushback on that normal in a combo looks insane though, so I assume like you do that there must be a special or EX that gives some serious horizontal distance in order to follow up into a lengthy combo. Perhaps a pilebunker? :fap:.
you're both idiots.
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If she has a moveset that summons seven (like 214 summons) I'll try her out.
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I want to main Archetype Earth too guys
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hay
WHAT KINDA SHOES IS SHE ROCKIN
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hay
WHAT KINDA SHOES IS SHE ROCKIN
Bitch you all KNOW if she is rocking them nike's I'm DEFF playing the bitch! :prinny: :prinny: :prinny: :prinny: :prinny:
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THOSE BOOTS MAKE AKIHA'S BOOTS LOOK LIKE MICK JAGGER.
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Powered Ciel 2c proves that she has anime sized boobs.
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If you look really hard, it looks like she has a giant dick hanging out.
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If you look really hard, it looks like she has a giant dick hanging out.
Seconded
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I like how both screens leave a white underweary looking bulge in that area.
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Powered Ciel 2c proves that she has anime sized boobs.
Are anime-sized boobs big or small, I don't get it.
Def some crotch bulge going on though. She should know better than to try hiding it in that little skirt. It'll just make Roa excited.
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Well the high kick isn't a command normal, since she reverse beated into it.
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Powered Ciel?
That doesn't sound good.
How powerful is this "Powered Ciel"?
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Executioner Ciel. It's her mode in which she kills threads to mankind in order of the Burial Agency. Her one-piece suit with a shortass skirt and her epic tier boots are just eyecandy, as well as her tattoos. And she runs around with a bunch of holy papers - which are also a loli horsegirl - which can transform into a huge weapon - - in her hands beating the shit out of her opponents.
If I was a Cielfag I'd die now.
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Hmm,looking at the screenshots,she might have multihit normals,or alot of forward moving normals,because if you see the sweep screenshot,its the 6th hit and she's unnaturally to the opponent.
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psh...
Screw this character, give us altrouge!!
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In both screenshots the timer is low and both players have most of their health. This clearly means she's a turtle character that is good at not dieing and not killing.
In both screenshots she has a lot of meter. This means that she doesn't use her meter for EXes and saves it for regenerating health. This assists theory 1.
In both screenshots both players have a full guard bar. This means she is bad at guard breaking and hard to guard break. This assists theory 1.
In both screenshots her opponent has a low amount of meter. This means that she definitely has a way to drain her opponent's meter.
In both screenshots she is in crescent moon and color 1. This is proof that she has no half or full moon version and can only be played by one player at a time due to only having one color. She may have an eclipse version and you need to get her by random to get crescent like archtype earth but this is unconfirmed.
While not character specific, both screenshots feature two different moons facing off. This means that both players can't pick the same moon phase anymore.
Wild speculation is constructive.
I think I got that in order from most likely to least likely.
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In both screenshots the timer is low and both players have most of their health. This clearly means she's a turtle character that is good at not dieing and not killing.
In both screenshots she has a lot of meter. This means that she doesn't use her meter for EXes and saves it for regenerating health. This assists theory 1.
In both screenshots both players have a full guard bar. This means she is bad at guard breaking and hard to guard break. This assists theory 1.
In both screenshots her opponent has a low amount of meter. This means that she definitely has a way to drain her opponent's meter.
In both screenshots she is in crescent moon and color 1. This is proof that she has no half or full moon version and can only be played by one player at a time due to only having one color. She may have an eclipse version and you need to get her by random to get crescent like archtype earth but this is unconfirmed.
While not character specific, both screenshots feature two different moons facing off. This means that both players can't pick the same moon phase anymore.
Wild speculation is constructive.
I think I got that in order from most likely to least likely.
Godlike
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french bread created a ustream chanel and put some footage of powered ciel there (but the image quality isn't good)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13105419 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13105419)
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...was that being played on a console?
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i'm not sure, but for me it looked likes thet are using a cpu (ring edge/wide use windows xp as OS, so it would be the more natural)
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Well, the quality of the video wasn't that great but here's what I've seen so far.
Projectiles (explosives)
DP
Command Grab (I think, if not it's a miyako style throw)
A special that wallslams with a hitbox similar to Aoko's 236a.
I think I saw something that had the potential to be a bnb. My guess on the inputs is 2b5c6c236b(wallslam)214b(projectile).
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That looks a dual shock in front of the television.
@_@
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Definitely is, but...
not getting my hopes up. = /
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Well, the quality of the video wasn't that great but here's what I've seen so far.
Projectiles (explosives)
DP
Command Grab (I think, if not it's a miyako style throw)
A special that wallslams with a hitbox similar to Aoko's 236a.
I think I saw something that had the potential to be a bnb. My guess on the inputs is 2b5c6c236b(wallslam)214b(projectile).
From what I remember she was also able to move across the screen very fast,and I think it had some kind of effect like Arc's homing jump.
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...was that being played on a console?
That looks a dual shock in front of the television.
@_@
....... :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro:
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Well, the quality of the video wasn't that great but here's what I've seen so far.
Projectiles (explosives)
DP
Command Grab (I think, if not it's a miyako style throw)
A special that wallslams with a hitbox similar to Aoko's 236a.
I think I saw something that had the potential to be a bnb. My guess on the inputs is 2b5c6c236b(wallslam)214b(projectile).
To expand on the descriptions, her projectiles are rockets, similar to C Mech but bigger and maybe slightly slower moving. Looks like you can shoot one low and one high. The wallslam special you mention is the burst from the end of Ciel normal Arc Drive. Her dp is some kind of rising kick similar to Nanaya's shoryu, but she pushes off the ground with her gun and rises at a slightly steeper angle. She has some kind of air EX, but I couldn't really see it. Her normals seem pretty big. Her throw does seem to be similar to Miyako, where she just pushes them a short distance away, no knockdown.
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...was that being played on a console?
That looks a dual shock in front of the television.
@_@
....... :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro: :nyoro:
If so there is a god afterall.
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Also it should be noted that what he was showing was being played from a computer, and it was most likely just recorded footage or cpu v cpu of some kind. I'm pretty sure he was just running a program and playing the shit on the tv.
Don't get your hopes up for an initial console release just because he had a console in the room. lol
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People should have already loketested pciel in Japan,are there no vids/impressions out there?
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People should have already loketested pciel in Japan,are there no vids/impressions out there?
impressions (or something): http://nrvnqsr.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=6553&page=8#714740
don't know how valid the "no air combos" bit is since the character is still totally new but yeah, roa lightning type stuff in crescent and half sounds interesting.
oh and 7HS stands for 7th Holy Scripture, her big pilebunker. just inb4 someone confuses that for notation...
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Account suspended.
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hrm this should be resolved as soon as whoever is in charge checks their message from proboards/addresses whatever problem with the site.
it basically said:
-no air combos (?) maybe he means no jump cancellable air normals?
-she has specials that move her around the screen very quickly and huge upwards kick special with followups
-full moon can launch missiles from the pilebunker
-crescent and half have some sort of roa-ish lightning attack (i can't remember/couldn't tell from the wording if this was said to be a followup to the kick special)
aaand thats all i can remember of what it said.
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-no air combos (?) maybe he means no jump cancellable air normals?
First thing i thought was Satsuki and Kouma.
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The site is located on the Japanese hosting. But there is trouble.
Disassemble debris, pump out water, clean IP-channels - and it will work.
Today I phoned the Prime Minister of Japan - says that working in a hurry... Promised not to delay a long time...
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french bread created a ustream chanel and put some footage of powered ciel there (but the image quality isn't good)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13105419 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13105419)
:fap:thanks :fap:
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Account suspended.
it looks like they have their account suspended for not removing all mature content in 48 hours. They have moved for this http://nrvnqsr.us.to/ (http://nrvnqsr.us.to/), but i don't know how much of the old stuff was lost.
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D:
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...I've already managed to dump the file index and every single file out of the cvm. How do you think I made framedisplay?
I didn't actually decrypt it, though. The index can be acquired though, uh, somewhat unconventional means. I ran the game in an emulator, save stated, then grabbed the decrypted indexes out of the state's snapshot of running memory.
Executioner Ciel, or whatever you want to call her, is on character selection slot #19(CSEL_C19.AGI for the image file), inbetween Len and Neko Arc. There is no further data for this character: No text files, no reference in the character lookups. Dummied out, they just didn't get rid of the image file.
Edit: Ah, here we go. She's marked as F_CIEL.
{ "F_CIEL_WIN.TXT", 0x78f, 0x717cd },
// arcade
{ "F_CIEL.ARX", 0xff640, 0x2dbf3 },
{ "F_CIEL.CG2", 0x20578, 0x2ddf2 },
{ "F_CIEL.CPF", 0x2f36c, 0x2de33 },
{ "F_CIEL_C.TXT", 0x1df, 0x2de92 },
// console
{ "F_CIEL.ARX", 0xff640, 0x4e1c4 },
{ "F_CIEL.CG2", 0x20578, 0x4e3c3 },
{ "F_CIEL.CPF", 0x2f36c, 0x4e404 },
{ "F_CIEL_C.TXT", 0x1df, 0x4e463 },
[CharaNo_019]
Name = F_CIEL
File1 = F_CIEL
File2 = 0
CharaFace = 19
Secret1 = 0
Secret2 = 0
IconPos = 0,3
Bg = 1
CursorMove = 18,6,25,5
NameWH = 240,98
StandPos = 0
WinGrpPos = -80
ExChara = 16
Lacking a frame data file, though, and F_CIEL_C.TXT is old-style MBAC format, which means it was never updated.
Listen, what program you've used to extract data from Melty Blood Actress Again for PS2 file with the data, since I'm wanting to take the data of the game characters, for the Dust of Osiris, G-Akiha chiefs, the Boss Rush Warachia, Aoko, White Len, Miyako, Koha & Mech, Akiha and eclipses style versions versions of the other characters.