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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2010, 06:29:16 PM »
There's actually two types of Eclipse styles... but that'd be getting into very technical details.

Suffice to say there's the "Normal" Eclipse style a la Archetype's, and the "Boss" Eclipse Style, e.g; the secret boss fight with Ryougi.

Problem is, Eclipse is still just plain unbalanced compared to the other styles. But admittingly it is fun to mess around with.
I got bad memories facing eclipse ryougi :emo:  Hell its fun fighting archtype in both crescent and eclipse
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2010, 06:37:13 PM »
It could have been done without your method if you knew the file formats to look for. That's how I got the ADXs out for the music.
Frame data was stored using a completely new format, unlike MBAC's, and completely custom. Given the size of the packfile and the diversity of the data types, many of which are custom, I call your plan impractical at best and idiotic at worst.

And yes an Eclipse form exists for most characters. There's also a mystery form (_3) that I'm not sure what is for. Additionally these is a set of boss characters (B_AKIHA, B_AOKO, B_ARC, B_HERMES, B_KOHAKU, B_M_HISUI, B_MIYAKO, B_RYOUGI, B_WARAKIA, B_WLEN) that are separate from the other characters.

Actually, here's a complete list of Eclipse modes:

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AKAAKIHA_9.TXT  B_HERMES_9.TXT     CIEL_9.TXT     MIYAKO_9.TXT  SATSUKI_9.TXT
AKIHA_9.TXT     B_KOHAKU_M_9.TXT   G_AKIHA_9.TXT  NANAYA_9.TXT  SHIKI_9.TXT
AOKO_9.TXT      B_M_HISUI_P_9.TXT  HISUI_9.TXT    NECO_9.TXT    SION_9.TXT
ARC_9.TXT       B_MIYAKO_9.TXT     KISHIMA_9.TXT  NERO_9.TXT    V_SION_9.TXT
B_AKIHA_9.TXT   B_RYOUGI_9.TXT     KOHAKU_9.TXT   RIES_9.TXT    WARAKIA_9.TXT
B_AOKO_9.TXT    B_WARAKIA_9.TXT    LEN_9.TXT      ROA_9.TXT     WARC_9.TXT
B_ARC_9.TXT     B_WLEN_9.TXT       M_HISUI_9.TXT  RYOUGI_9.TXT  WLEN_9.TXT

And Crescent modes:

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AKAAKIHA_0.TXT     B_WLEN_0.TXT    M_HISUI_M_0.TXT  S_AKIHA_0.TXT
AKIHA_0.TXT        CIEL_0.TXT      M_HISUI_P_0.TXT  SATSUKI_0.TXT
AOKO_0.TXT         G_AKIHA_0.TXT   MIYAKO_0.TXT     SHIKI_0.TXT
ARC_0.TXT          G_CHAOS_0.TXT   NANAYA_0.TXT     SION_0.TXT
B_AKIHA_0.TXT      HERMES_0.TXT    NECHAOS_0.TXT    V_SION_0.TXT
B_AOKO_0.TXT       HISUI_0.TXT     NECO_0.TXT       WARAKIA_0.TXT
B_ARC_0.TXT        KISHIMA_0.TXT   NECO_P_0.TXT     WARC_0.TXT
B_KOHAKU_M_0.TXT   KOHAKU_0.TXT    NERO_0.TXT       WLEN_0.TXT
B_M_HISUI_P_0.TXT  KOHAKU_M_0.TXT  RIES_0.TXT
B_MIYAKO_0.TXT     LEN_0.TXT       ROA_0.TXT
B_WARAKIA_0.TXT    M_HISUI_0.TXT   RYOUGI_0.TXT

And here's _3, whatever the hell it is. Probably special story mode stuff.

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AKIHA_3.TXT  HISUI_3.TXT    MIYAKO_3.TXT   SHIKI_3.TXT    WARC_3.TXT
AOKO_3.TXT   KISHIMA_3.TXT  NANAYA_3.TXT   SION_3.TXT     WLEN_3.TXT
ARC_3.TXT    KOHAKU_3.TXT   RIES_3.TXT     V_SION_3.TXT
CIEL_3.TXT   LEN_3.TXT      SATSUKI_3.TXT  WARAKIA_3.TXT

Not all of the character entries have complete character data attached.

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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2010, 11:34:43 AM »
using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA!   :o




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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2010, 12:06:38 PM »
using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA!   :o




Oh god. G-akiha playable :emo:. weird i didn't see her data when i looked
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2010, 12:55:25 AM »
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2010, 02:22:32 AM »
Yes. There is no way to normally do it.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2010, 04:57:28 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfmLM2wVkkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW79hwkig-M

isn't this done with action replay??
i'm pretty sure it is done with action replay but still lol :psyduck:
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2010, 07:51:00 AM »
It definitely is. There is no other way to play as a smaller/larger Neco Arc or any of these characters or do any of these things without some sort of memory-editing device such as a Codebreaker or an Action Replay.

If you can emulate it via PCSX2 on your PC though, all you need is a generic trainer/memory editor.

I used to hack codes for stuff like this back in the PS1 days. I'm pretty interested in seeing how this person managed to figure it out. For the "Hang in air" code, for example, he probably figured out how the game decides someone has landed.

That said, it's amusing because Giant Neco-Arc looks like she's flashing Roa with her beams, which is a fucking scary thought.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2010, 08:52:35 AM »
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For the "Hang in air" code, for example, he probably figured out how the game decides someone has landed.

This can be obtained through debug mode/show movies

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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2010, 09:18:02 AM »
Well of course, but most games, especially console games, have the debug modes removed before they're ever shipped.

If MBAA has such a debug code, I certainly don't know of it, but that doesn't mean it isn't in there. There were whole debug rooms on the retail discs for Final Fantasy VII and VIII on PS1 for example.

This program, then, is very likely some kind of memory trainer that runs with the game (fairly unlikely due to the PS2's fairly limited memory space) or some external trainer that you're using in conjunction with PCSX2.

I'd like to take a look at it, if possible.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2010, 09:49:37 AM »
Dark Pulse, look  ;D





lol, game does not even version 1.0


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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2010, 06:02:36 PM »
Okay then. Feel free to tell us how to do it, or what you're using to get it. :P
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2010, 06:37:24 PM »
With this in mind, why would the devs leave unused data within the game disc?
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2010, 06:55:15 PM »
With this in mind, why would the devs leave unused data within the game disc?
This is actually a really common thing to do if you don't have space concerns.

In development, it's actually a hell of a lot easier to leave stuff in and just disable it than to remove it entirely, because you don't know what might still be depending on that data even if it is theoretically not used.

Example: Hot Coffee.

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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2010, 07:30:26 PM »
And Melty definitely doesn't use a full DVD. It's about 1.5 GB as an ISO IIRC.

Needless to say, there's a whole lot of space.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2010, 05:51:08 AM »
Dark Pulse,
AR code debug menu
003d8fb0 00000001

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In the final screen of nero haos can see portrait of Powered Ciel  ;D


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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2010, 11:05:33 AM »
using the same program, I received Powered Ciel and G.AKIHA!   :o





oh man i want them are playable in the PC version :fap:
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2010, 11:12:58 AM »
I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version
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« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2010, 11:20:27 AM »
I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version


PLEASE NOOO :'(
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2010, 11:26:36 AM »
I've heard there isn't gonna be a pc version


PLEASE NOOO :'(
I know it sucks :'( French Bread is to focused on mbaa current code and their blazblue killer to make a pc version. but you never know anything is possible :mystery:
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2010, 05:38:16 PM »
You know Current Code basically runs on Windows, right?
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2010, 06:04:55 PM »
You know Current Code basically runs on Windows, right?
Yea i know. We just gotta wait and see if current code will have a pc and/or console release :slowpoke: IMO thats what everyones waitin for.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2010, 07:41:56 PM »
Unlikely. Ver. B never hit consoles, after all, but it did make it to PCs, and was only a slight tweak compared to Arcade Ver. B.

It will probably be playable on PCs... someday. Even if not natively, eventually someone will crack the encryption that will no doubt be used on the titles and get it playing, similar to how Blazblue was made to run on PCs.

Anyway, "Not announced" does not equal "Not going to be." The arcade and console scenes for MB are pretty small; most of its original fanbase is still PC. I have faith a PC-native version will eventually get here, and if not, then all it will take is dumping the CF Card of Current Code, then decrypting it.
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Re: Powered Ciel? wtf o_O
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 06:50:44 AM »

in game 33 character.
30 characters in the character selection menu + 2 boss + Powered Ciel

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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2010, 01:33:57 PM »
Anyway, "Not announced" does not equal "Not going to be." The arcade and console scenes for MB are pretty small; most of its original fanbase is still PC. I have faith a PC-native version will eventually get here, and if not, then all it will take is dumping the CF Card of Current Code, then decrypting it.
Just to note, the majority of the scene in the US is console, and the majority of the scene in JP is arcade (it's still like second or third most popular JP arcade fighter, last I saw).  It's just anything outside of those scenes are basically restricted to PC due to netplay necessity.
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