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Offline Cristu

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2012, 02:23:31 AM »
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Hello,

We've been corresponding on vWorker.com re your bid request:
http://www.vworker.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1896208&txtForceRefresh=6220121155552207&intProjectTab_TabId=1&blnShortCutMenu=true

As vW takes a fat cut of the payment (15%) and you're going to fund it via community donations, we can just divide the project into stages and work outside of vW, so you guys don't have to pay extra for the commission fee.

I've looked around that MBCaster code, and the job's worth around $1500. With only the core features we can go down to ~$1200. I like the idea of a community funded project, but this requires a lot of both knowledge and effort, and those don't come cheap. I'd be surprised if you find someone on vW who bids lower and knows what he's doing.

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Where can we send the money to? The bid is going to be taken? I'll try and get meltybrasil to help in that case since I'm it's founder and the current netplay is useless to us.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 02:25:05 AM by Cristu »
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2012, 03:48:43 AM »
If he is able to make it work as well as Caster with all its features then I'll have no complaints; 1500 dollars is not a terribly large amount, especially if many people contribute.

Now then, the conditions.
Would he agree to receive the full payment once the product is complete and in satisfactory condition?
If bugs are discovered after the job is done, would he agree to fix them?

I bet people'd be reluctant to donate with no guarantee of success, and those who do donate would be bitter if the final product isn't useful.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 04:29:27 AM by Roy-Kr »

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #102 on: June 03, 2012, 04:34:23 AM »
Maybe we could pay him a part of the whole amount as a deposit, and transfer the rest when the job is done. Then both parties profit.

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #103 on: June 03, 2012, 09:34:38 AM »
have fun getting scammed over this guys :toot:

I'm going to be as real as possible, though I can definitely commend your efforts.

Just move onto P4U

It's what I'm doing. I had fun with MB at least.

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2012, 09:52:22 AM »
That guy is totally just gonna run with the money haha
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #105 on: June 03, 2012, 10:48:14 AM »
Maybe we could pay him a part of the whole amount as a deposit, and transfer the rest when the job is done. Then both parties profit.
Unlikely.

"Since this is a pay-for-deliverables project, you will bid a fixed price to complete the entire job. If you win and complete the work according to contract, you will be paid completely at the end (or partially as each of your optional milestones arrive)."

Although he suggested doing it outside of vw, these rules must still apply.

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #106 on: June 03, 2012, 12:07:11 PM »
How about you don't pay the guy because that's way more than anyone on this forum should be paying to 'fix' this problem of ours.
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #107 on: June 03, 2012, 12:32:19 PM »
I'm not touching this with a 100-foot pole.

Generally though, anyone asking to do any paid for service outside of the original forum you're requesting it in is usually a sign to run for the hills, as the odds of getting scammed go up about 10,000x.
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #108 on: June 03, 2012, 12:59:00 PM »
Well then, fuck you guys. Have fun with your dying community :V

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #109 on: June 03, 2012, 01:16:11 PM »
How are we supposed to get scammed if the deal is that we pay after receiving a satisfactory product?

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #110 on: June 03, 2012, 01:51:07 PM »
What if he creates a netplay but it will be the same deal as the ecole one - for some it works very well and for some it works like shit? You will have to pay the guy since he did the job, or can you just say to him that you're not sattisfacted and wont pay?

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #111 on: June 03, 2012, 02:52:58 PM »
Same as Caster equals satisfactory.
If it's the same as Ecole/FB's then it needs work.

Conditions for when the product can be considered complete would of course be agreed upon before a deal is made.

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #112 on: June 03, 2012, 03:11:42 PM »
Well then, fuck you guys. Have fun with your dying community :V

I mean like good stuff trying to get something together but man you gotta be careful lol
<Graven> When you are Ciel, don't try to win, don't even try to do anything. The more you do, the stupider and bigger faggot you become because you're using Ciel.
<WyvernLord> roku is faking his disappearance so melty bread can come out and try to convince him of his value to the community

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #113 on: June 03, 2012, 03:19:01 PM »
Well then, fuck you guys. Have fun with your dying community :V
Yeah, because there aren't 34,543,543 other games people could just go instead of playing one with zero legal availability anywhere in the world. There's putting in effort in building a community and then there's just not being able to accept the reality of the situation.

Hell, you compared the community to Ougon's a couple of pages back. Do you know how many times I have seen that game played at a tournament? Zero. I think we're coming from two completely different worlds here.
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #114 on: June 03, 2012, 03:41:17 PM »
Hell, you compared the "community" to Ougon's a couple of pages back. Do you know how many times I have seen that game played at a tournament? Zero

who the hell plays ougon anyways?


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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #115 on: June 03, 2012, 05:53:57 PM »
How bout we get our game released stand alone.  I'd rather put money in that then some 3rd party netplay fix.  In fact, I'd put no money on the 3rd party netplay fix.
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #116 on: June 03, 2012, 08:38:12 PM »
Wow, some of you guys are finally starting to get it. Kudos.

Good luck to the rest trying to catch up.
zar are you even aware that your attitude is what drove people off in the first place. i think zar's attitude is worse than all of that. cause neither of you guys mean anything. but zar can poison shit around him. zar's the one that gets personal online and does realtalk that's out of line.

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #117 on: June 03, 2012, 09:14:55 PM »
Where do we go from here?

TO THE SKIES! http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18003292
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #118 on: June 04, 2012, 10:33:33 AM »
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #119 on: June 04, 2012, 01:07:35 PM »
Where do we go from here?

TO THE SKIES! http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18003292

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #121 on: June 06, 2012, 10:47:11 PM »
http://hydragp.info/archives/4720 japan bans hime fly off screen glitch
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<WyvernLord> roku is faking his disappearance so melty bread can come out and try to convince him of his value to the community

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2012, 05:22:44 AM »
I don't know If I would call that a glitch, but yes, it should be banned.

If I'm not mistaken, it can be fixed by either requiring meter to fly cancel or limiting the number of fly cancels before touching the ground.

Edit: Also, someone get that info on the front page.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2012, 05:52:58 AM by LivingShadow »

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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #123 on: June 07, 2012, 05:58:39 AM »
I don't know If I would call that a glitch, but yes, it should be banned.

If I'm not mistaken, it can be fixed by either requiring meter to fly cancel or limiting the number of fly cancels before touching the ground.
6B is not cancelable into 2Q normally nor 2Q into 6B, but after one flight, both are. It only requires only one flight and then 6B 2Q 6B 2Q 6B 2Q allday. Flight limitation would not help (since it's only 1) neighter requiring meter (same reason). All it needs is 6B not being cancelable into 2Q or 2Q not in 6B (when in flight mode). Another solution could be flight mode end after specific commands. They made flight mode cancelable into more attacks for the cool, but yeah, newest character + very complex mechanics + 90 characters to take care of. One cannot be so perfect.
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Re: So where do we go from here?
« Reply #124 on: June 09, 2012, 06:06:22 PM »
top8 GG was streamed on TeamSpooky today. Why? Because its on a platform that's easy for stream equip to be setup on. Ergo PC release (which I was against from the beginning) killed MB...Along with developers not giving a shit lol.

Also, from another thread:
They're probably just tossing around words at this point. They probably don't fucking care about Melty anymore, or dealing with Type-Moon (I wouldn't want to deal with them either.) I mean mauve has stated that the JP BBS for the game is filled with complaints and shit, but do you see Ecole or whoever is producing this doing anything? Why do you guys put your faith in small shitty JP companies?

Lastly:
WHAT THE FUCK IS A "Q"????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, guys. Just give it up.

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zar are you even aware that your attitude is what drove people off in the first place. i think zar's attitude is worse than all of that. cause neither of you guys mean anything. but zar can poison shit around him. zar's the one that gets personal online and does realtalk that's out of line.