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Startup frames on Shields?

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heavymetalmixer:
I've heard frome a friend of mine that every moon has different startup frames on their Shields, being C the fastest and H the slowest. Is this true? Any link to an expanation or the exact startup frames?

TheMaster_Rahl:
Wake-up shield is a reversal because the shield is active on frame 1. Therefore there is no start-up on shields. Now the stuff they can do after a shield might be what your friend is talking about.

Speed of things for C-moon shields depend on the char and the type of shield. EX shield to normal, like 5A, is prolly the fastest thing. Chars with 3 frame start-up 5As can CH the opponent. Chars with slower 5As will not counter hit, unless the opponent did a multi hit move, or a move with more active frames, like a j.C. If the C-Moon did held shield, then the speed depends on the special, or EX they canceled into.

F-moon 236D follow ups may be faster than H-moon auto counters, but they can delay it a bit. They can cancel into specials/EX like C-moon.

H-moon auto counters speeds are char specific, but in general, slower. They can cancel into specials/EX like C-moon.

Sashi:
You can also cancel the first frame of shields for all three moons to pretty much anything you want (backdash, throw, normals, etc.), no matter if it actually shielded something or if it whiffed.

heavymetalmixer:
Isn't that the Shield cancel that was in AC and got removed in AA?

Sashi:
No, you're thinking of baracancel, which was canceling bunkers.

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