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Misaki Town Bakery => Melty Blood Auditorium => : tataki August 28, 2011, 01:05:41 AM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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http://shoryuken.com/2011/08/24/wakeup-srk-e069-flashmetroid-at-evo-2011/
at 1:09:40
Up to date version
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Mauve Caster
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Not ruled out of Evo
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Current gen fighting games are mostly shit
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:toot:?
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That's awesome!
I wonder what the PC game was in the past~
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I'll check out the podcast for this when srk is back up. If there is however even a slight chance of us getting MB(CC) for evo again you can expect a "SRSBSNS" post from me shortly after, guys.
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i'll believe it when i see it.
evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
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i'll believe it when i see it.
evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
This. 2011's lineup makes me really apprehensive as well to anything else in the future tbh... I wouldn't be surprised if they announced sfxtekken for evo before it even comes out or some shit
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i'll believe it when i see it.
evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
This. 2011's lineup makes me really apprehensive as well to anything else in the future tbh... I wouldn't be surprised if they announced sfxtekken for evo before it even comes out or some shit
Add UFC to that list.
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evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
Eh? AssBlue was just there ???
Then there was Melty the year before that.
I'm sure you know all of this, so how are they "anti-anime"?
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evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
Eh? AssBlue was just there ???
Then there was Melty the year before that.
I'm sure you know all of this, so how are they "anti-anime"?
We got voted in last year.
And BB being there this year was due to sponsorship (imo)~
I don't really care, Melty will be at Evo officially or not :P
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Yeah, MrWiz's response when he found out MBAA was not just an import but a PS2 game was classic.
Blazblue is honestly the black sheep of the tournament but it has sponsorship and a decent enough following.
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i'll believe it when i see it.
evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
I don't think this is true, honestly -- they were about to run TvC, BBCT and MBAA at Evo 2010. That's a pretty goddamn anime lineup.
Blazblue is honestly the black sheep of the tournament but it has sponsorship and a decent enough following.
And BB being there this year was due to sponsorship (imo)~
Neither ArcSys nor Aksys sponsored Evolution 2011.
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I don't really believe they're anti-anime really, but as soon as MK9 made it without ever setting foot into a tournament setting, well I lost a glimmer of that hope I had for Evo and what it really took to get there.
At this point we'll have UMvC3, SFAE, SFxT, TTT2, and BBCC to fight against.
Le sigh~
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Let's not forget that while AH3 has a less "poverty" look to it with the new art direction, it also looks very suspect. :laffo:
Yes, and because it looks like garbage to most people in America it was guaranteed to have a smaller community than MK9 if they were both at EVO or if they both weren't. Hence, they picked up MK9 and not AH3. They're not going to put anime games in their EVO lineup that are clearly going to have a significantly smaller amount of entrants just to appear more open to anime games.
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Neither ArcSys nor Aksys sponsored Evolution 2011.
Huh. I thought they did. Got me then.
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Let's not forget that while AH3 has a less "poverty" look to it with the new art direction, it also looks very suspect. :laffo:
Fuck Arcana it's shitty and the playerbase is so fucking anime
Just reworded your true feelings there for ya
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Real talk though, I think mbaa being on pc at evo will be bad exposure overall. I don't think the idea of a pc main event tourney will bring positive attention at all and will only spur on alot of hate imo
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Real talk though, I think mbaa being on pc at evo will be bad exposure overall. I don't think the idea of a pc main event tourney will bring positive attention at all and will only spur on alot of hate imo
It's better than it not being there at all. It already gets tons of hate. A few more haters tossed into the shit pile isn't going to change anything.
Besides, if people actually see it and decide to give it a shot this time, they'll actually have means of obtaining it. Not that you couldn't get it before but... these people play Street Fighter. Let's be serious.
Real talk though, why do you care? Didn't you quit this game?
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Real talk though, why do you care? Didn't you quit this game?
Isn't it obvious? He's excited about how he can talk about how he blocks overheads 100% on 5 delay and can hit Arc loops consistently on netplay again. :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo:
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Should Melty somehow find its way to EVO I'll be hype for it. (Although I probably won't be able to go due to lack of funds)
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evo's been anti-ANIME for awhile now.
Eh? AssBlue was just there ???
Then there was Melty the year before that.
I'm sure you know all of this, so how are they "anti-anime"?
We got voted in last year.
And BB being there this year was due to sponsorship (imo)~
I don't really care, Melty will be at Evo officially or not :P
BB was in supposed to be @ EVO 2010 but the community gave their spot for MVC2 cuz CS was coming out about the same time and nobody wanted to play CT at that point.
So EVO basically was owing them a spot for next year, and luckily CS2 at least came out in time for that, and the game at least got "ok" turnouts.
I don't really believe they're anti-anime really, but as soon as MK9 made it without ever setting foot into a tournament setting, well I lost a glimmer of that hope I had for Evo and what it really took to get there.
It takes popularity, that's all.
Putting MK9 in before it's even out was dirty but in the end the game got more than twice the turnouts than Tekken 6br so do you still think it was a bad decision on their part?
The good thing is that now AACC is in a position to get more popularity in US than MB has ever been, so use that to your advantage.
(And unlike Arcana Heart it has male characters and doesn't have a girly theme to it so it shouldn't be AS HARD to promote)
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SRK podcast mirror
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OXBOE1WQ
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Real talk though, why do you care? Didn't you quit this game?
Isn't it obvious? He's excited about how he can talk about how he blocks overheads 100% on 5 delay and can hit Arc loops consistently on netplay again. :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo:
jealous?
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Real talk though, I think mbaa being on pc at evo will be bad exposure overall. I don't think the idea of a pc main event tourney will bring positive attention at all and will only spur on alot of hate imo
Not a big deal at all after SF4 being on PS3, where everyone knows the specific combo of SF4+PS3 has 2-3 frames input delay compared to XB360.
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And get this guy to commentate top 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd73X6eM5tA
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IIRC, Melty only was made possible in part to the EVO organizers' own ignorance. Had they known it was the only PS2 game in the 2010 line-up, I'm sure things would've been different (like it probably wouldn't even be in the Player's Choice poll). :psyduck:
not true, PS2 wouldnt have mattered or not seeing as CVS2 and 3S were also considered as well. IIRC the only games on the poll that were next gen were SCIV and MVC2 and MVC2 got in anyways after the BB spot was given up.
Dreamcasts on the other hand, were out the door, lol.
AH3 unfortunately became doomed from the start in attempting to even get the small audience it has, releasing next to marvel, expensive import, PSN issues, etc.
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Haven't listened to the podcast yet, but in the past at least, wizard has publicly claimed (whether truthfully or not is a different matter) that the games that make it in are based on the current hype level. If a netplay function is created, and if it can revitalize the scene, that would build hype. It would at least boost our chances of getting into the official EVO roster again from the current 0% to like 2%.
I think the bigger problem is that they usually only have 5 or 6 games at evo due to time constraints. With UMVC3, SSF4AE2012, SFxT, TTT2, Skull Girls, and MK, thats 6 games already. So unless TTT2 doesn't get released before EVO 2012, then we don't have a shot in hell.
However, none of this matters because those that WANT to play melty will still just setup there own consoles/pc's.
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I think the bigger problem is that they usually only have 5 or 6 games at evo due to time constraints. With UMVC3, SSF4AE2012, SFxT, TTT2, Skull Girls, and MK, thats 6 games already. So unless TTT2 doesn't get released before EVO 2012, then we don't have a shot in hell.
Not that big of a deal since MB won't occupy console setups.
For that reason alone it could be easier to get it in than yet another PS3 game.
The only thing we need now is to hype it up get enough people to play it when it comes out.
Also TTT2 won't be on console in time for the next Evo, and the arcade ver. will bring the T6 back to a coma for the next year.
So the candidates are: SF4,UMVC3,SFXT,MK9,SC5,BBCSE,SG,KOF13 and now MB. That's 9 games!
At this point trying to push one game to "beat" other games for a spot is stupid and unproductive for the scene.
I think it's better if all the communities (while focusing on expanding the current player bases for their respected games) also unite to push for a bigger event with room for more games.
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Yes but MBAA was an import PS2 title. So they had to purchase JP PS2 units which are more expensive than buying refurbished NTSC-U Dreamcasts. I am also assuming they had stashed away copies of 3S and CvS2 DC because they held tournaments for the two games before (even after the arcade cabinet -> console switch).
I remember EVO was soliciting Ecole for some import PS2s and MBAA PS2 copies. Unfortunately they only received the latter.
Had it just been a NTSC-U PS2 game, yes I doubt it would've had the "negative" impact it did on the EVO staff, but combine it with being a niche import game too and the reaction isn't too surprising.
They didn't have to buy JP PS2's at all, they had them from when GG was part of the line up in years past.
Also We solicited Ecole to help promote their game at Evo and all we got were like 8 copies of Melty in a spindle.
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I think the bigger problem is that they usually only have 5 or 6 games at evo due to time constraints. With UMVC3, SSF4AE2012, SFxT, TTT2, Skull Girls, and MK, thats 6 games already. So unless TTT2 doesn't get released before EVO 2012, then we don't have a shot in hell.
Not that big of a deal since MB won't occupy console setups.
For that reason alone it could be easier to get it in than yet another PS3 game.
The only thing we need now is to hype it up get enough people to play it when it comes out.
Also TTT2 won't be on console in time for the next Evo, and the arcade ver. will bring the T6 back to a coma for the next year.
So the candidates are: SF4,UMVC3,SFXT,MK9,SC5,BBCSE,SG,KOF13 and now MB. That's 9 games!
At this point trying to push one game to "beat" other games for a spot is stupid and unproductive for the scene.
I think it's better if all the communities (while focusing on expanding the current player bases for their respected games) also unite to push for a bigger event with room for more games.
I don't really agree with this, but he's kind've on to something. Why pussyfoot around trying to convince other people to play our game and get to doing some work ourselves. If Ehrik's crow apartment was any indication, it's pretty easy to get our community together (whether they've been out of the loop or not) for a general "poverty" event. We can have MBAA as the main game of course, but also games like AH3, Skull Girls, and a bunch of other games active games that melty players generally play. I put poverty in quotations because I would just want it to be a general event of underplayed games, not complete poverty and old games, unless they have a strong hidden following (like EFZ, which we would want to bring out) It would basically just take getting a venue, 5 niggas to bring out their computers, 5 niggas to bring out TVs and setups, 3 stream equips and a ton of advertising.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be hard (especially getting a venue), but we do have the resources (We can definitely manage between all of us the streams/setups) and connections (some of us definitely could get this advertised in big spots) to do so as a community and I think it would be a lot more proactive than just posting about how we can't get into Evo.
And if you really want to get in over your head, you can think about what this would grow into. It could start as a one day event at some venue annually in NY/NJ/PA, but then in 2 years be a weekend event. In 3 years, a bi-annual weekend event. In 5 years, who knows?
And the worst thing that happens is at the end of the day it's just ~25 melty players sitting around playing melty and poverty games.
But if we really like MBAACCPC when it drops and netplay makes it really popular, I think it's worth atleast one shot next spring.
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unless they have a strong hidden following (like EFZ, which we would want to bring out)
Komidol combos mistakes.
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unless they have a strong hidden following (like EFZ, which we would want to bring out)
Komidol combos mistakes.
Zaelar loops faggotry.
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I don't think it matters whether or not MBAA ever has a chance to make it into EVO's official lineup next year. You can still have a hype tournament even if your game ends up being a side tournament. I think case point to this was that huge GGAC side tournament at EVO this year. I don't know the exact number of players, but it must of gotten more than 50 players, a couple of which included some high level JPN players like RF and Kindebu (yes I know they went for SSF4AE but still). That's pretty amazing for a game that's been overall dead competitively, for years.
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I think only person qualified to talk in this thread is sadly chibi because hes been at evo/knows more evo policitcs etc
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I don't think it matters whether or not MBAA ever has a chance to make it into EVO's official lineup next year. You can still have a hype tournament even if your game ends up being a side tournament. I think case point to this was that huge GGAC side tournament at EVO this year. I don't know the exact number of players, but it must of gotten more than 50 players, a couple of which included some high level JPN players like RF and Kindebu (yes I know they went for SSF4AE but still). That's pretty amazing for a game that's been overall dead competitively, for years.
IMO melty just needs more positive hype-building exposure to the fg scene in general, and I'm really not sure Evo is the best route to try and build that, considering how traditional the evo scene is.
I think we're better off trying to draw players in from the specifically MVC3 scene or the blazblue scene than the general capcom/srk scene.
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Evo is not "anti-anime", I don't know where this impression came from. They will run games based on anticipated turnout & sponsorship. Despite the meh response from Ecole for evo MBAA I think it would be worthwhile to contact French Bread/Ecole to see if they would be interested in contacting MrWiz about sponsoring an MBAACC tourney. If nothing else, it's a good way to continue reminding them that there are, in fact, people in the U.S. that want to play their game.
That being said, regardless of if it's a main game or a side tournament I will do my best to be at Evo to support Melty.
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well everyone, let's just be a little real and remember that what's officially said isn't always what's actually true
evo isn't officially anti-anime
evo doesn't officially cater to games that are popular and crappy but result in sponsors and money in their bank
evo doesn't officially prefer prettier games for their big tournaments simply out of being prettier
and so on and so forth
yet...
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i personally don't think MBAACC has a shot at evo 2012. not so much because of the difficulty it would require to get MBAACC as an official game at evo, but the possible lineup for next year seems like it could be locked down already, there are a ton of big hitters that mb would have to compete with to be an official tournament at evo: ae2012, umvc3, kof13, sfxt, ttt2?, possibly other small ones to consider like skullgirls, vf5, even UNIB (which I would prefer over MB tbh since its newer), this is a lot of competition and i'm pretty sure that once evo staff sits down to consider the the 10 year anniversary lineup, a pc game is going to be ousted fast when you have all those other games to discuss. it doesn't matter all the little things that make it easier than people think to run MBAACC at evo, because 1. it doesn't outweigh the issues you'd have to deal with a PC game tourney 2. quite honestly I don't think you could get the right people to really listen.
So the candidates are: SF4,UMVC3,SFXT,MK9,SC5,BBCSE,SG,KOF13 and now MB. That's 9 games!
At this point trying to push one game to "beat" other games for a spot is stupid and unproductive for the scene.
I think it's better if all the communities (while focusing on expanding the current player bases for their respected games) also unite to push for a bigger event with room for more games.
so true....but will it happen? with these communities, I don't think it's anywhere close to happening.
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nt for SSF4AE but still).
IMO melty just needs more positive hype-building exposure to the fg scene in general, and I'm really not sure Evo is the best route to try and build that, considering how traditional the evo scene is.
I think we're better off trying to draw players in from the specifically MVC3 scene or the blazblue scene than the general capcom/srk scene.
Capcom fans never truly embraced the game when it was highly accessible on the PS2 and every popular Capcom title was 8+ years old, so I'm having a very hard time picturing how we could do a better job at convincing Capcom players to play our game nowadays. With the way the fighting game scene is now, MB has yet another hurdle of bias to overcome: the hype factor. The only games that get any attention from fighting game players and outsiders alike, these days, are the games that have prizes over $5,000k per tournament and have a variety of streams that show case high level matches from professional players. MB is an excellent, well balanced game, but being a good game never seemed to be good enough in my experience, to convince a Capcom player to try a completely different fg, like MB. These days it's even harder to convince someone to play a game where the scene for it is virtually dead, has no netplay at the moment, or any hype at all.
Personally, I think BB or AH players would be the easiest to convince. Capcom players have been traditional biased and stubborn when it comes to considering other fgs. It's even worst nowadays, since a lot of Capcom players are new and have only played SF4/MvC3. I think we're pretty fucked here.
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I personally didn't think Melty had a shot at being in evo2k10 even with the vote. And yet.
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So Keits decided to be a cockblocker and suddenly retracted his statement in the OP post in the new episode when asked by LK about it. :gonk: :psyduck:
I guess the best thing to do is to stop caring and focus on building alternatives like komidol said.
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I was thinking lets start using the fact we'll be using computers to our advantage. We can have like a dozen other poverty games set up at tournament running off PC, and have a much bigger library of games all together.
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I was thinking lets start using the fact we'll be using computers to our advantage. We can have like a dozen other poverty games set up at tournament running off PC, and have a much bigger library of games all together.
problem is do melty players really want to be "poverty gamers" any more? let's be honest, most "poverty games" range from mediocre to straight ass, I'd rather see melty running alongside practically any newer console release than the The Queen of Heart '98
It's going to be tough enough getting new people to play as is, probably won't help if we lock ourselves in the poverty treehouse with half our setups devoted to strip fighter 4 and efz
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Regardless though any serious tournament event is going to have more than one game, even if we make Melty the main attraction. Most people who play melty are not going to accept to be along side MVC3/SSF4 (atleast, I don't think they'd enjoy it that much).
If we don't want to do other poverty games we need new main games. Though I'd rather play good old games like VSav or EFZ rather than new shit like Ougon.
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Most people who play melty are not going to accept to be along side MVC3/SSF4 (atleast, I don't think they'd enjoy it that much).
this is where I think you're wrong, I'm pretty sure most people here would have no problems playing alongside a major capcom game; I know a number of people who play both melty and sf or mvc (some of the new rutgers guys came in from sf I think) and more importantly segregating ourselves into our own little bubble is just generally bad for attracting interest/new players
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In that case just run it alongside Under Night In-Bersth!
Actually... better yet.. run Melty alongside the fighting game that I made. Shit is legit.
(http://gregmalatino.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/stage2.png)
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i really wish i had gotten a chance to catch EVO 2011 just so i could have watched the melty tourney. i didnt really see any side tournies at evo2k12, but i was busy judging most of the time.
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this is where I think you're wrong, I'm pretty sure most people here would have no problems playing alongside a major capcom game; I know a number of people who play both melty and sf or mvc (some of the new rutgers guys came in from sf I think) and more importantly segregating ourselves into our own little bubble is just generally bad for attracting interest/new players
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i agree. the bigger our community gets the more likely we are to see state side release.
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In that case just run it alongside Under Night In-Bersth!
Actually... better yet.. run Melty alongside the fighting game that I made. Shit is legit.
Did you learn the infinite yet or are you still the worst player at your own game.
Most people who play melty are not going to accept to be along side MVC3/SSF4 (atleast, I don't think they'd enjoy it that much).
this is where I think you're wrong, I'm pretty sure most people here would have no problems playing alongside a major capcom game; I know a number of people who play both melty and sf or mvc (some of the new rutgers guys came in from sf I think) and more importantly segregating ourselves into our own little bubble is just generally bad for attracting interest/new players
Valid opinion.