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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2012, 07:53:03 PM »
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[MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2012, 07:55:47 PM »
Why do you want to play HMiya? Does she do anything interesting outside of throw whiff loops?
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2012, 10:10:26 PM »
Hipster Miyako IMO.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #128 on: May 03, 2012, 11:23:30 PM »
Why do you want to play HMiya? Does she do anything interesting outside of throw whiff loops?

Double guard bar and all your meter for half bunkers. Get the life lead and you can just chill against hard zoning matchups until the timer runs out or they realize they have to try to rushdown. Invincible half moon bunker anything that looks like it might be sneaky or if you just want to make them have to get in again.

I haven't gotten into miyako's runaway lame game too much since i'm having fun playing h-kouma lately and styling on people, but it's probably damn effective for her too. Just chilling under that retard huge half moon guard bar, running away with the life lead, and scooping up sloppy chase attempts is damn good.
h-miyako 236 series (ground 236b sucks ass for this because the attack box is complete shit) and clash 2b against people inevitably getting sloppy during the chase is good, I know that much. j.b sure fucking isn't, as I also unfortunately know. 623A will mostly only hit once and give you the combo off counter-hit, also nice (still air unblockable even in half moon)
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2012, 06:10:06 AM »
Why do you want to play HMiya? Does she do anything interesting outside of throw whiff loops?

Throw whiff loops are fun.

Hipster Miyako IMO.

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Why do you want to play HMiya? Does she do anything interesting outside of throw whiff loops?

Double guard bar and all your meter for half bunkers. Get the life lead and you can just chill against hard zoning matchups until the timer runs out or they realize they have to try to rushdown. Invincible half moon bunker anything that looks like it might be sneaky or if you just want to make them have to get in again.

I haven't gotten into miyako's runaway lame game too much since i'm having fun playing h-kouma lately and styling on people, but it's probably damn effective for her too. Just chilling under that retard huge half moon guard bar, running away with the life lead, and scooping up sloppy chase attempts is damn good.
h-miyako 236 series (ground 236b sucks ass for this because the attack box is complete shit) and clash 2b against people inevitably getting sloppy during the chase is good, I know that much. j.b sure fucking isn't, as I also unfortunately know. 623A will mostly only hit once and give you the combo off counter-hit, also nice (still air unblockable even in half moon)

623 does 2 hits. F-Moon only does 1.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2012, 05:57:49 PM »
623 does 2 hits. F-Moon only does 1.

Forgot to specify that intelligent positioning is required.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2012, 10:51:35 AM »
So much talk about F and H... Make fun of my C.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2012, 10:18:26 PM »
So much talk about F and H... Make fun of my C.

http://youtu.be/S_gBUtPMMMM

My mind was blown before the match even started when you both got real close for a 2a competition.  Manly? :mystery:
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #133 on: May 07, 2012, 09:59:35 AM »
My mind was blown before the match even started when you both got real close for a 2a competition.  Manly? :mystery:
I think she just jumped, or was late inputing 623A. She has to know that her 2A will lose to everyone's 2A there.
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #134 on: May 07, 2012, 11:42:51 AM »
My mind was blown before the match even started when you both got real close for a 2a competition.  Manly? :mystery:
I think she just jumped, or was late inputing 623A. She has to know that her 2A will lose to everyone's 2A there.
Now that i think about it, I shoulda prolly chose to 2/5A battle against Hime. Frame wise, Miya's A's are much faster then Hime's A's... by 2 frames i guess?
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #135 on: May 07, 2012, 03:28:59 PM »
Thanks for reminding me in the first match that midscreen wallslam combo was possible off 214A 236C
IIRC it does a bit more damage than 236A A 214C
Bleh I need to get into this game again and actually find out.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #136 on: September 20, 2012, 11:16:58 PM »
Behold Miyako videos!!!11


29.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len) 3
07.07.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len) 2
10.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len) 1
29.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sola (C Seifuku) 3
23.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sola (C Seifuku) 2
16.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sola (C Seifuku) 1
16.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Amara (F Arcueid)
16.08.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Shu (H V.Akiha)
27.07.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Rokorokoro (F Nanaya)
27.07.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Misao (F Shiki)
27.07.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Minami (C Arcueid)
21.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Kure (F W.Len) 2
31.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Kure (F W.Len) 1
21.06.2112 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. GO1 (H Seifuku)
14.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Himesaki? (C Hisui)
14.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Kii (H P.Ciel)
14.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Upo (H Kouma)
14.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Karen (F Aoko)
14.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Sakura (C W.Len)
07.06.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Kana (C Hisui)
24.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Tamayan (F Arcueid)
17.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Ino (F Akiha) 2
23.03.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Ino (F Akiha)
17.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. * (C Nanaya)
05.05.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. KOB (F Shiki)
30.03.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Nangu (C Ciel)
15.03.2012 - Kiiro (C Miyako) vs. Tsuragu (F Walachia)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Rokorokoro (F Nanaya)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Takemu (F V.Sion)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Sakura (C W.Len)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Kumaa (H Akiha)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Kyon (C Ryougi)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Kanzaki Ranko (F Arcueid)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Akihiro (C Kohaku)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len)
05.05.2012 - Mojiri (C Miyako) vs. Kii (H P.Ciel)
28.07.2012 - MirumiruMiruki (C Miyako) vs. Kou (C Seifuku)
08.01.2012 - MirumiruMiruki (C Miyako) vs. Ten (C Hisui)
08.01.2012 - MirumiruMiruki (C Miyako) vs. Yuu (C Sion)
08.01.2012 - MirumiruMiruki (C Miyako) vs. Maruyan (C Mech Hisui)
16.03.2012 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Yuu (F Sion) 2
21.12.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Yuu (F Sion) 1
16.03.2012 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Eba (C Ryougi)
27.01.2012 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Gintoki (F Aoko)
21.12.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Norainu (H V.Sion)
21.12.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Misora (F Akiha) 2
29.08.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Misora (C Shiki) 1
01.12.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Naya (C R.Arcueid)
29.08.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Hikonyan (C Kohaku)
29.08.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Tatsuya (H P.Ciel)
29.08.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Kazuya (C W.Len)
22.09.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. JeffreyManson (F Aoko)
22.09.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. AOI (H P.Ciel)
22.09.2011 - F.T (C Miyako) vs. Chitosesana (F V.Akiha)
01.06.2012 - Kanna (C Miyako) vs. Waka (H Hisui)
01.06.2012 - Kanna (C Miyako) vs. Mecha! (Mech Hisui)
26.02.2012 - Uhohonge (C Miyako) vs. Norio (F Nero)
26.02.2012 - Uhohonge (C Miyako) vs. Tomo (F Shiki)
23.08.2012 - Yunomi (C Miyako) vs. Kiiro (C Miyako)
12.05.2011 - Yunomi (C Miyako) vs. Natsume (C Walachia)
16.08.2012 - U.T.T (C Miyako) vs. Adaa (C Sion)


23.08.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Himesaki? (C Hisui)
29.06.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Aba (C Hisui)
29.06.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len)
19.04.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Guts Mask (F Aoko) 2
12.04.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Guts Mask (F Aoko) 1
07.04.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Sola (C Seifuku)
07.04.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Ino (F Akiha)
07.04.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Slave Company (C Hisui & Kohaku)
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Fujii (C Walachia)
01.12.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Nootsu (C Hisui)
08.10.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. AOI (H P.Ciel)
08.10.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Tenpura (F Nero)
08.10.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Hikonyan (C Roa) 2
12.05.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Hikonyan (C Maids) 1
08.10.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Deaane (F Akiha) 2
06.10.2011 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. Deaane (F Akiha) 1
24.05.2012 - Kiiro (H Miyako) vs. Momiyama (F Sion)
19.11.2011 - Hekuto (H Miyako) vs. Touji (C Nero)
21.04.2011 - 1 hour of: Hekuto (H Miyako) vs. Abuto (F Miyako)


13.09.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. JAnson (C Roa) 2
09.04.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. JAnson (F Roa) 1
13.09.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Ranpo (H Nanaya)
23.08.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Sumochi (F Len)
05.05.2012 - Yunomi (H Miyako) vs. KOB (F Shiki)
07.04.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Okuu (H Arcueid)
04.02.2012 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Yagatarasu (C Satsuki)
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Hikonyan (C Roa) 2
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Hikonyan (C Roa) 1
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. AOI (C Hime) 2
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. AOI (C Hime) 1
22.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Rui (H Len)
14.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Misora (F Hime)
14.12.2011 - Yunomi (F Miyako) vs. Fujii (F V.Akiha)
14.09.2012 - FDH (F Miyako) vs. Rosha (H Sion)
14.09.2012 - FDH (F Miyako) vs. Hinomaru (C Ciel)
14.09.2012 - FDH (F Miyako) vs. Yamahii (C Ciel)
16.08.2012 - U.T.T (F Miyako) vs. Tamayan (F Arcueid)
16.08.2012 - U.T.T (F Miyako) vs. Kuripuna (H Arcueid)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Bebe (C Seifuku)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Kuga (C Akiha)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Mokotan (F Riesbyfe)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. DF2 (H Sion)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Eva (H Sion)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Naya (C R.Arcueid)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Deaane (H Akiha)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Misora (F Hime)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Kyomu (C Satsuki)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Kuga (C Akiha)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. AOI (C Hima)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Nootsu (C Hisui)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Maccha (C Ciel)
14.12.2011 - Shizukaze (F Miyako) vs. Danon (C W.Len)
19.06.2011 - Aware (F Miyako) vs. Rokuta (H Shiki)
19.06.2011 - Aware (F Miyako) vs. Rokuta (H Shiki)
19.06.2011 - Aware (F Miyako) vs. Chest (F Sion)
19.06.2011 - Aware (F Miyako) vs. Chest (F Sion)
19.06.2011 - Aware (F Miyako) vs. Joubuto (F Satsuki)
01.02.2011 - Koorogi (F Miyako) vs. ILS (F Kouma)
01.02.2011 - Koorogi (F Miyako) vs. Yoshino (H Len)
01.02.2011 - Koorogi (F Miyako) vs. Zakuro (H V.Sion)
01.02.2011 - Koorogi (F Miyako) vs. Ashe (F Nanaya)
01.02.2011 - Koorogi (F Miyako) vs. Hirohiro (C W.Len)
12.12.2011 - Hibiki (F Miyako) vs. Reni (C Ciel)
21.04.2011 - 1 hour of: Hekuto (H Miyako) vs. Abuto (F Miyako)
« Last Edit: October 03, 2012, 08:48:29 PM by Cristu »
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2012, 07:03:47 PM »
While I appreciate the massive dump, 100% of these links are broken.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #138 on: September 22, 2012, 04:53:04 PM »
They work if you remove the beginning of the URL which is clearly messed up, at least.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #139 on: September 22, 2012, 06:11:09 PM »
Not only that, you have to add a colon (:) after "http"
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #140 on: September 22, 2012, 06:41:10 PM »
Don't know what happened when I copypasted D= It's fixed now. Sorry for that.
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2013, 02:11:58 PM »
Hmm I know this thread is probably dead but I will try and recieve my help from the only miyako thread I see.
 For F-miyako I tend to have this on going issue with my 421b(p1 side) wiffing in the corner due to the oppponent being too high to hit. Should I delay it more  or is there a certain height I have to be aware of before actually using 421b

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2013, 09:07:07 PM »
Hmm I know this thread is probably dead but I will try and recieve my help from the only miyako thread I see.
 For F-miyako I tend to have this on going issue with my 421b(p1 side) wiffing in the corner due to the oppponent being too high to hit. Should I delay it more  or is there a certain height I have to be aware of before actually using 421b
Yeah, just delay the j.421b for about a second or so after actually hitting with 236b and they should fall down enough to catch with the tip of the elbow.  There shouldn't be any character specific issues with hitting that, either.
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #143 on: May 29, 2013, 01:52:17 PM »
Hey, everyone, or to anyone who checks this. Trying to learn Miyako (mainly Full) and maybe I'm terrible at looking but is there a page/thread with combos anywhere? or is it mainly "figure it out on your own?"

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #144 on: May 29, 2013, 03:14:32 PM »
2A 5B 2B 5C 6C 236B j.421A/B(depends on whether you're near the corner) delayed whiff airthrow 2C 6C 236A ~ whatever.

For people who are crouching, you have to do a 623B~B before 236B. Delay the second B as much as you can.

EDIT: Not my fault if this isn't optimal, 'cause I just stole T3U's FMiya combos. :v

EDIT:
<@T3U> Against Tohno and a few other characters, she can do 2C 236A iad jAB land 236A jB djBC AT
<@T3U> After the airthrow whiff

<@T3U> If you're cornered as Miyako and you want to take them all the way across town.
<@T3U> 623BB is required for both standers and crouchers in that case, or just change 236B to C on standers.

<@T3U> Oh but then the combo would have to be altered too for 236C
<@T3U> 2A 5B 2B 5C 6C 236C dash 6[C] 214[B] 5B 236A air combo

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #145 on: May 29, 2013, 06:11:11 PM »
Edit: See above.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #146 on: August 04, 2013, 08:17:00 AM »
I have a friend who's trying to learn Melty, and he's pretty dead set on C-Miyako I think, so I'm trying to find out some of the best things for him to work on, but Miyako has remarkably little documentation in terms of combos and such.  From what I can tell, they're all pretty simple, and I can't find much that would be useful from match videos that isn't in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILIxg2SREc .  I'd appreciate if somebody told me otherwise, or if there's something notable about certain moves that changes damage proration in unexpected ways, etc.

For what it's worth, he hasn't explored the other moons much.  I have to point out that not only is he learning Melty, but this is his first fighting game, so I'm also putting him through 236 and 623 drills because those are new to him (it might take him a while to get j.623a j.623c consistently), as well as explaining all the concepts behind mixups, oki, frame advantage, etc.  He's got a competitive mindset from RTS and MOBA games and is a fast learner, but is F moon significantly easier, particularly in execution?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #147 on: August 04, 2013, 08:37:27 AM »
FMiya combos are pretty much the same difficulty. You can check the Japanese wiki for some combos. Probably better to just ask LegendaryBlueShirt. Rather, complain about how his CMiya video is still not done.
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #148 on: August 04, 2013, 12:48:58 PM »
He might find easier to understand and execute pressure with F since it's pretty straightforward, and optimal use of reverse beat takes time and practice. As far as combos are concerned, that video covers pretty much all she needs, since her main goal in this game is to get the other guy to the corner and abuse him there, and she has the tools to do it.

I don't think she is the best entry character since she requires good spacing and hit confirming, but if he already decided and likes the character I'm sure he'll make it work.
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Re: [MBAACC] Miyako Thread
« Reply #149 on: August 06, 2013, 12:29:16 PM »
Honestly, learning with F moon kind of gimps your understanding of some things like how pressure works, meter management, and even reversal options.  In Miyako's case particularly, F is so simple that it ends up reducing the need to adapt to things as much...well at least that's how it was in MBAA.  In Current Code, apparently certain nerfs make her a lot more difficult(jump normals).  *shrugs*  All things considered, starting with C has a bit more hurdles but is probably the best moon for comprehensive learning.
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