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Re: new examu game
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2011, 06:10:38 AM »
I think the other thing worthy to consider would be if French Bread themselves would be up to it.
Yes and no.... the thing is that T-M at this point would and could shop around with developers and publishers. There is nothing said that it has to be Ecole/French-Bread, but they already have a dialogue with the companies over MB. It would simplify matters if they continued with that dialogue over a new project.

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After all, the majority of their attention for the foreseeable future will obviously be focused on their new baby, Under Night. Depending on how people are receptive to Unreal Black Things? It could easily be a matter where, eventually, FB may not see the need to continue working with Type Moon in the "tight-like-glue" way they used to in the last decade. T-M has long since gone commercial, and now it looks like FB is poised to make a serious dive for themselves in the same arena.

Yeah, I see something like that happening myself. However, that is just one thing in the realm of possibilities with UNIB's future, in the near team... FB does need to branch out, UNIB accomplishes that. How successful this is will be a matter of debate.


There's already enough F/SN fighters out there.  I say keep Melty to just the Tsuki cast (Ryougi exception) and original characters.
As much as I would agree with you... I can't. For one highly selfish reason, I want a fighter like that in North America. Of the things that T-M owns that has some pull in NA, Fate/Stay Night is it... KnK and Tsuki are close but when you want near the mainstream, your looking at FSN with it's larger niche crowd on both sides of the pacific.
Any hope of a localization would likely use that as a factor.
That said, another name would be a good thing.... making a MB3 as the "All Around Type Moon fighter" would be confusing on the marketing end of things. With Fate/Zero and All Around Type Moon animations coming down the pipe.
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2011, 09:11:50 AM »
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2011, 09:56:48 AM »
Yeah, I see something like that happening myself. However, that is just one thing in the realm of possibilities with UNIB's future, in the near team... FB does need to branch out, UNIB accomplishes that. How successful this is will be a matter of debate.

Well, I dunno who tossed it up between the likes of here and other BBS I've been to or whatever, but they're right on this much: if FB really wants their game to have a chance of beating that "hateful Blazblue", the best chance at doing that is to think globally, and actually contest ASW on the same "stage". 

I'd like to think that FB knows that they have a nice-sized audience outside of Japan, but because of the politics surrounding Melty Blood, they've never been able to actively market a product in the West. UNIB stands to be their big chance to do it their way, and without some one like Type Moon saying "No!" for whatever reason.

 


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Re: new examu game
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2011, 07:47:36 AM »
Well, I dunno who tossed it up between the likes of here and other BBS I've been to or whatever, but they're right on this much: if FB really wants their game to have a chance of beating that "hateful Blazblue", the best chance at doing that is to think globally, and actually contest ASW on the same "stage". 

I would think that myself, but the fact that the game itself will be arcade first speaks volumes. Especially in the NA market where apparently, the old arcade is "so 90's" and for most gamers the internet is the new arcade... at least here. ASW has been doing the same thing, so I can't say that it's too damaging... but, for NA players, that draw back is a concern.
Given that, I would think that FB will concern themselves with the Japanese market first before even attempting going global. It also speaks to Sega Amusement roadmap with ALL.net and the Ring-series
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2011, 11:17:12 AM »
i remember reading about Namco’s new card system called Banapass, and maybe it will afect both aquaplaza and unib
http://www.versuscity.net/2011/02/21/banapass-card/
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2011, 11:29:33 AM »
i remember reading about Namco’s new card system called Banapass, and maybe it will afect both aquaplaza and unib
http://www.versuscity.net/2011/02/21/banapass-card/
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The downside to all of this is that any game that supports this system will most likely be either gimped when it’s released internationally — because I don’t see Namco being able to maintain this system worldwide — or simply won’t get a release.

Maybe, maybe not... proof comes in September.
That said, I would assume that Namco would have added this to titles that would be of interest to them. That and Ring-series (the only hardware series that would matter with ALL.net) seems lefts out of that for reasons unknown (unless banapass is for truly custom hardware)
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2011, 12:11:13 PM »
I would think that myself, but the fact that the game itself will be arcade first speaks volumes. Especially in the NA market where apparently, the old arcade is "so 90's" and for most gamers the internet is the new arcade... at least here. ASW has been doing the same thing, so I can't say that it's too damaging... but, for NA players, that draw back is a concern.
Given that, I would think that FB will concern themselves with the Japanese market first before even attempting going global. It also speaks to Sega Amusement roadmap with ALL.net and the Ring-series

True yes. After all, if FB's game can't succeed at home, it wouldn't be much good any where else, now wouldn't it?  :bleh:

On the other hand, if I'm interpreting that newest post on FB's blog is right, UNIB game may be on Taito's NESiCA system this time. In which case, it won't have any need for the "Bananapass", but it's still just as bad for those who were hoping to import the arcade unit. Sign of the (end?) times for the arcade industry, in my opinion, but it at least makes it so that smaller devs like FB don't waste money on PCBs that would just sit.

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Re: new examu game
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2011, 06:43:31 PM »
True yes. After all, if FB's game can't succeed at home, it wouldn't be much good any where else, now wouldn't it?  :bleh:
The sad truth really... Japan companies will concern itself with the consumer needs of japan.

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On the other hand, if I'm interpreting that newest post on FB's blog is right, UNIB game may be on Taito's NESiCA system this time. In which case, it won't have any need for the "Bananapass", but it's still just as bad for those who were hoping to import the arcade unit. Sign of the (end?) times for the arcade industry, in my opinion, but it at least makes it so that smaller devs like FB don't waste money on PCBs that would just sit.

I'll be honest, I think that it's a bluff.... Ecole more or less publicised on Sega hardware for the most part, and on it... they get a market to themselves. Now this may not be a good thing, but considering that Taito's X^2 is crowded a space (in general), that is a something to keep an eye on. If anything, I would take it as an appeal for Ringedge hardware (despite that the hardware isn't much of a jump from Ringwide)... for whatever purpose that serves.
Unless FB is riffing.


On the more speculative note. I have been having this feeling that the gaming market is going to expand globally, development wise... but from an unlikely place. The indie/doujin developer. If anything, it's the one side of the market now that you will continue to see new IP out of... and that in itself will signs of health for gaming. It's something that I have noticed on the portable side of things, with the market shaking over iPhone/Android taking over and distrupting the space. The reason is in part due to the FLOOD of the indie developer to get noticed. Sega, if they play their cards right,  themselves in this growth for arcades... since you get the feeling that the (save for a few) the old names don't hold much traction any more. And gamers (outside the hardcore) want new.... the trick it's how to visual attract than impress (in other words, graphics... don't hold on the technical matter, as they do on uniqueness). But we'll see with this new gen coming.
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2011, 10:49:12 PM »
I'll be honest, I think that it's a bluff.... Ecole more or less publicised on Sega hardware for the most part, and on it... they get a market to themselves. Now this may not be a good thing, but considering that Taito's X^2 is crowded a space (in general), that is a something to keep an eye on. If anything, I would take it as an appeal for Ringedge hardware (despite that the hardware isn't much of a jump from Ringwide)... for whatever purpose that serves.
Unless FB is riffing.

Like I said in the other topic, given FB's history of "jokes" and "rumors" that turn out to be made real (Narita = Tatari? :laffo: ), I wouldn't dismiss such statements as mere jest.

After all, while the market for X2 is indeed a crowded one, it's also the hardware that's got guaranteed installation at most arcades, which is surely something that is relevant to FB's interests. I mean, what else is making a case for operated to have a few Ring Edges, beyond "Border Break" that's already been in arcades?

So, we'll see, most definitely.

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On the more speculative note. I have been having this feeling that the gaming market is going to expand globally, development wise... but from an unlikely place. The indie/doujin developer. If anything, it's the one side of the market now that you will continue to see new IP out of... and that in itself will signs of health for gaming. It's something that I have noticed on the portable side of things, with the market shaking over iPhone/Android taking over and distrupting the space. The reason is in part due to the FLOOD of the indie developer to get noticed. Sega, if they play their cards right,  themselves in this growth for arcades... since you get the feeling that the (save for a few) the old names don't hold much traction any more. And gamers (outside the hardcore) want new.... the trick it's how to visual attract than impress (in other words, graphics... don't hold on the technical matter, as they do on uniqueness). But we'll see with this new gen coming.

Hell, I would love to see the indie/doujin scene do more to get some love. Of course, I don't really see such a thing happening until the Japanese side of the equation either a) gets in on the Steam bandwagon or b) develops their own answer to such. Among the main things that's holding the industry back, especially on the indy-level, it's still the usual publisher-developer relationship. The sooner that much is undermined and circumvented, the better everything else will be, I believe.

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Re: new examu game
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2011, 04:08:36 PM »
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2011, 09:25:21 AM »
Like I said in the other topic, given FB's history of "jokes" and "rumors" that turn out to be made real (Narita = Tatari? :laffo: ), I wouldn't dismiss such statements as mere jest.
For now, for what it seems... bluff seems accurate. A number of things with UNIB's announcement doesn't single a change in development platform... the biggest being that it was announced at a Sega event. But that could mean little... again questions that only September can answer.

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After all, while the market for X2 is indeed a crowded one, it's also the hardware that's got guaranteed installation at most arcades, which is surely something that is relevant to FB's interests. I mean, what else is making a case for operated to have a few Ring Edges, beyond "Border Break" that's already been in arcades?
That is based on the assumption that Taito is the market, arcade wise, and that is BAD...VERY BAD. Taito would more or less be able to hold the industry hostage, since it holds all the users. At that point, the arcade's twilight to death will be in full swing.... and Taito will not stop it with that kind of holding power.
I would like the Japan game industry to avoid something like that.... since it would cause a nasty shrink in development. Plus, Sega is large, it would be hard to have them ignored on the market completely.
That said, you do know that Melty Blood on the Ringwide isn't really pushing the system. I would not be all that shocked if UNIB was released on the same (as it turns out, the Ringwide has the same resolution to RingEdge... the two big differences in the systems are that Edge has dual-core cpu and much more VRAM) hardware as Control Code, simply due to familiarity... and both are tied to ALL.net for distribution...  but again, things that the JAMMA showcase will answer.

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So, we'll see, most definitely.

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Hell, I would love to see the indie/doujin scene do more to get some love. Of course, I don't really see such a thing happening until the Japanese side of the equation either a) gets in on the Steam bandwagon or b) develops their own answer to such. Among the main things that's holding the industry back, especially on the indy-level, it's still the usual publisher-developer relationship. The sooner that much is undermined and circumvented, the better everything else will be, I believe.
Which is why Nascaxlive and ALL.net are rather interesting.... that is point B right there... The question is, will they gain traction? Nascaxlive seems likely, but the fact that it's on the TypeX^2 could be a problem. It's not a low-end system by any stretch of the imagination.

The publisher model needed to change of a long time. I will not say that they need to be completely out of the question, but at this point... distribution needs to be simpler. Publishers will either help with that (and marketing) or be in the way... Publishers need to understand that they have to get product to market quicker, in the most unobtrusive manner possible or be render completely irrelevant by the consumer and the developer... since it's a matter of resources that they give developers to get to consumers.
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Re: new examu game
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2011, 07:50:32 PM »
http://aquaplus.jp/aquapazza/special.html
Well just in case you were wondering, the people with Aquapazza posted an update and are going to run their cab at NesicaxLive. That'll be on the 22nd this month, so yeah next Wednesday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkw2uT00aUE
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As you can see, as of today cabs are all set to go. Probably gunna get some vids going soon.
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