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Atlas Academy => Melty Blood: Current Code => Powerd Ciel => : Irysa January 01, 2012, 12:14:35 AM

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: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Irysa January 01, 2012, 12:14:35 AM

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2748/cpcl.jpg

Bottom row is C - B - A
Second row is Air C - Air B - Air A

Top is the universal followup.

To put it into perpective, A ground is like 4f startup, B is like 10, and the grounded C dp is invul for
25 fucking frames before she becomes vulnerable for 5 and then does the dp.

A and B air dps are like 9f startup and the C dp has the 25 frame thing again, except with no invul.

This is all C, as far as I can tell all the moons have the same DP

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: BurstOfAnger January 01, 2012, 01:28:40 AM

I might sound like a dumbass who doesn't know how to use the framedisplay, but are you sure the 25 invul frames are not inclusive of the EX flash?

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Irysa January 01, 2012, 01:58:01 AM

Its not like that for other ex moves so theres no reason it would be unless mauve fucked up the coding.

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Mengjun January 01, 2012, 02:31:12 AM

Maybe it has to do with EX DP behaving differently on hit and on whiff. The 25 frames thing might be what happens on whiff (the thing where PCL just sails off in the air). Why they make that invincible, and not the actual startup, is beyond me though.

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Irysa January 01, 2012, 02:37:24 AM

Because she gets complete air movement after the DP, aka its safe on block. If it had proper full invul it would be dumb

Also im pretty sure that can't be the case beacuse the only data in the animation for the 623c invul part involves her on the ground...

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Mengjun January 01, 2012, 02:46:27 AM

: Irysa  January 01, 2012, 02:37:24 AM

Because she gets complete air movement after the DP, aka its safe on block. If it had proper full invul it would be dumb

Oh, right.

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: ehrik January 01, 2012, 07:33:40 AM

edit: Oh read this wrong

anyways her dp is ass, 5a rapes all three

also pretty sure the 25 frames invul on the ground is super flash, doesn't make sense otherwise

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Exciel January 01, 2012, 08:51:31 AM

I've seen 236C get stuffed a zillion times in matches. She'll superflash but still get hit. Makes sense.

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: Irysa January 01, 2012, 11:20:58 AM

: ehrik  January 01, 2012, 07:33:40 AM

edit: Oh read this wrong

anyways her dp is ass, 5a rapes all three

also pretty sure the 25 frames invul on the ground is super flash, doesn't make sense otherwise

Well apparently the framedisplay IS fucked up on some moves then...

: Re: Pcl dp hitboxes
: NotGreats February 23, 2012, 09:59:37 AM

: ehrik  January 01, 2012, 07:33:40 AM

also pretty sure the 25 frames invul on the ground is super flash, doesn't make sense otherwise

experience tells me that this is true