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Other Games / Dishonored
« on: October 13, 2012, 03:53:30 AM »
Want a fun stealth game?  Take on hard mode for your maiden play-through.  My expectations were high and I was not disappointed.

Other Games / Armored Core 5
« on: March 25, 2012, 01:42:26 AM »
Alright, who's in on this with me?  I want more people to play with. (Lolimonogatari on XBL)

To everyone who doesn't have this yet - this is the best team-oriented action game out right now.  Get it.

Akiha's Tea Room / "Kick It Forward" a proposal by Brian Fargo
« on: March 22, 2012, 03:11:16 PM »

Brian Fargo, also known as the Wasteland/Fallout guy, is one of the more recent kickstarter success stories, making nearly 1.5 million in pledges so far.  Just recently, he made this mostly anecdotal post about various gestures of kindness during the experience and ends it with a proposal that could have a potentially large impact on the game development scene if it takes off.  He calls it "Kick It Forward" and I heavily support it.

Give it a read when you have a moment, and don't be shy about spreading the word.

Akiha's Tea Room / Mahoutsukai no Yoru news
« on: March 13, 2012, 10:07:23 PM »
Yo, how did Siliconera hear about this shit before you rabid Type-moon fans post about it here?  Well, all my disappointment aside, apparently the game is coming out on April 12, and first edition copies come with a ~100 page artbook to fap to.  That's literally all of the information included in the article, but here's a link for posterity.

Article link

Akiha's Tea Room / Cheap Evo Housing
« on: January 17, 2012, 05:28:57 PM »
Hi, my name is Tim, and for those of you who aren't familiar, I open my home to people during Evo. 

Around this time of the year I want to request time off from my job, so anyone interested in getting in on the few coveted spots should let me know soon.  It would also be nice if you could at least briefly look into flight dates/prices to get an idea of when would be convenient to fly in/out so that I can request enough days off to accommodate you properly.

(Just a heads up: I'll probably lock this when a real evo thread pops up)

Akiha's Tea Room / Stone Island Shadow
« on: September 01, 2011, 03:16:12 AM »

These clothes look like something out of a stealth movie/game.  Pretty slick!  (too bad they're expensive as shit)

Other Games / Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 2
« on: July 18, 2011, 10:28:04 AM »
Yo, since the standalone Retribution expansion came out and it's currently only $15 on Steam, I finally got drawn into this game (almost entirely for The Last Stand), so if you guys play this, hit me up!  My Steam name is the same as my name here (lolisauce).

Also if you haven't gotten it, the Wargear Bundle DLC is worth the $12 for the bonus items it grants in Last Stand and Campaigns.

If you haven't ever played Dawn of War 2, I'll break it down for you.  It's essentially a squad based RTS game at its core with the ability to utilize environment as cover.  The Campaign mode can be played single player or co-op, which is awesome, and ends up playing more like an RPG with leveling up your commanders, unlocking skills via putting points into their skill trees, equipping items you get as mission rewards/stage secrets/random drops.  There are two modes of multiplayer, one being standard RTS with 1v1/2v2/3v3 matches, and the other being a 3 player cooperative survival mode called The Last Stand.  Last Stand is more similar to something like DotA/League of Legends/etc type of play, where you each control one commander with various equipment that each grant you skills and passive traits.  Leveling up over multiple plays with each character (there are 6 total) earns you more equipment to play around with, diversifying your character and opening up more creativity in the builds you play.  It's really fun.

Also feel free to geek out over Warhammer 40k general discussion in here if you want.  I know a bit and have been learning a lot more since I started playing DoW2, so I'm starting to really get into the lore.

Other Games / E3 2011
« on: June 07, 2011, 09:27:32 AM »
Alright.  Lay it all on me. 

What are you hype about? 
What do you think is a bad play?

Time to throw down some  :psyduck: :toot: :blah: :gonk: :emo:

Other Games / Chaos Code
« on: May 03, 2011, 04:22:49 AM »
Didn't we already have a thread for this game?  I dunno, I looked back 10 pages and didn't notice it, so I'm making a new one. 

Check out the awesome new promo vid.  Apparently the last loke test is coming up sometime late April or early May, I forget exactly.  The pv is hype though.  I like the samurai dude more after seeing this.  Everyone has some pretty hype shit they show though.

Akiha's Tea Room / MOVED: One of these things is not like the other?
« on: December 11, 2010, 05:11:53 PM »
This is a silly nonsense post, so I'm moving it to Sacchin Toast.

Akiha's Tea Room / MOVED: How do I improve my blockstrings / pressure ?
« on: November 23, 2010, 07:23:11 PM »
All non-character specific Melty Blood threads go in Melty Blood Auditorium

« on: November 11, 2010, 05:31:20 PM »
Yeah, so too much TCG discussion going on in the weeaboo thread.  I figured I'd make a thread just for anything card game related.

I'll start it off with Rumbling Spell Orchestra, the Touhou TCG I've been ranting about lately.  It's relatively new and pretty simple overall, but I've been having a lot of fun with it.  There is a kind of universal TCG netplay client used to play and the card text been fully translated.  Brand new 3.6 English update (as of 11/11/10) can be applied to add in alternate card art and various errata fixes with card descriptions and such.  Anyone looking for games, PM me here or message me on AIM/MSN (profile).

So LivingShadow, I asked about that Ran card "Tactician's Nine Tails" right?  Well, one of the guys was unsure, saying it probably means you can look at their hand during Replenish/Preparation phases (though it's completely pointless to not see their hand during Battle phase when you see it before and after that phase, so I'd just end up playing always revealed), but the other guy said:
Quote from: Kojiro
I'm very sure its only useable the moment it is equipped. It woulda said "As long as this card is equipped you can..." instead. Or it woulda used the word "While" instead of "When".
Which made me  :V :V :V  

Regional Community / Melty Blood Arcade Cabinet Locations
« on: October 11, 2010, 11:13:36 PM »
Added in the only known North American cab for Current Code and condensed all of the arcade location threads into one.  Sorry for any lost comments in the other threads.  Last updated: 10/30/13

Melty Blood Actress Again


Super Arcade
Melty Blood Actress Again: Current Code v1.07

1211 N Grand Ave, Walnut, CA 91789
(909) 594-5954

Arcade Odyssey
Melty Blood Actress Again: Current Code v1.07

12045 SW 117th Ave. Miami, FL 33176
(305) 253-2722

New York

Chinatown Fair
Melty Blood Actress Again v.A

5 Mott St. Manhattan, NY 10013


Arcade Odyssey
Melty Blood Actress Again v.A

12045 SW 117th Ave. Miami, FL 33176
(305) 253-2722

Melty Blood Act Cadenza


Hawaiian Brian's Billiards
Melty Blood Act Cadenza v.B2

1680 Kapiolani Blvd.
Honolulu, HI 96814
(808) 946-1343

New Jersey

8' on the Break
Melty Blood Act Cadenza v.A

340-346 North Ave
Dunellen, NJ 08812
(732) 752-8880

New York

Hammergirl Anime
Melty Blood Act Cadenza v.B2

376 Jefferson Rd.
Rochester, NY 14623
(585) 475-9330


University Pinball
Melty Blood Act Cadenza v.B2

4006-08 Spruce St
Philadelphia, PA 19104
(215) 387-9523


Space Rush Arcade
Melty Blood Act Cadenza v.B2

120-4351 No. 3 Road
Richmond, BC, Canada V6X 3A7
(604) 303-9955

Akiha's Tea Room / Ultimate Poverty Games
« on: August 15, 2010, 05:25:43 AM »
Not only are these games poverty in gameplay, they're free (for poverty players), and are actually thematically about poverty!

Also goat milk is MAGIC.  (or at least, that's what the christian aids global gang told me)

This board is only for actual tournament threads.  Any random shit like this goes into Sacchin Toast.

Tournament Results / Vegas GameOver_ Monthlies 2
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:43:30 PM »
Results crossposted from Vegas regional thread.  GGs to all who played.  Next stop is Evo!

1) Prinny (C Arc)
2) Level 0 (F Kouma)
3) Lolisauce (F Miyako)
4) Oni (C W.Len)
5) Blood Feast Island Man (H V.Sion)
6) E. Paine (H Aoko)
7) Macc (F Kouma)

SSF4 Teams:
1) IDK
2) FOB
3) DP
4) Strictly Platonic M4M
4) Pornographic Images
6) Asian Sensation
6) Turtle Lame
8) Two African Males
8) Mike & Ian

Tekken 6:
1) Kray
2) J-Knee
3) Prinny
4) Flash
5) Macc
6) Jin Ryu

1) Ruin
2) Trophy Club
3) W3s/Mno
4) J-Ma
5) Kennimitsu
5) Joe
7) Kino
7) Macc
9) Carnehas
9) Tony
9) Blood Feast Island Man

Tournaments and Events / Vegas GameOver_ Monthlies 2
« on: May 31, 2010, 11:14:26 AM »
GO_ Monthlies #2
June 26th, 2010
Starting at 2pm (tentative)
Entry fee $5 each game + $2 for house (you only gotta drop the $2 once if you enter multiple games)
Payouts for each game is 70/20/10

SSF4 2v2 Teams
2v2 format, Pokemon style (A1 vs B1, A2 vs B2, Winner 1 vs Winner 2), 2/3 rounds, Draws are replayed
99 second time limit
Double elimination
Team members must consist of different characters (Ex: No two Ryus)

Tekken 6 Singles
3/5 rounds, 2/3 matches (finals are 3/5 matches)
60 second time limit
Double Elimination
No custom characters

MBAA Singles
2/3 rounds, 2/3 matches (finals are 3/5 matches)
99 second time limit
Winner must keep same character & moon phase
Archtype Earth is banned
Double Elimination

Tournament Results / Vegas GameOver_ Monthly #1 Results
« on: May 30, 2010, 01:14:16 AM »
Thanks to all who stopped down. Apologies again to the BB crew. Both our setups some how managed to get fucked up once we set them up at GO. Still no idea why. Here are the results (forgive me if I got your character wrong):

1: Prinny (H Arc, F Akiha)
2: Boomer Kuwanger (F Miyako)
3: Level 0 (F Kouma)
4: Jason (F Miyako)
5: Oni (C W.Len)
5: Paine (H Ryogi)
7: Macc (H Roa)
7: Vector (F W.Len)

1: Todd (Juri, Boxer, Ibiki)
2: Trophy Club (Dudley, Dhalsim)
3: Iche (Ryu)
4: Bryan (Boxer)
5: Kosi (Chun)
5: Felix (Hakan)
7: Macc (T Hawk)
7: Etc (Dee Jay)
9: Vector (Dictator)
9: Jose (Sagat)
9: Bruce (Juri)
9: Blood Feast Iron Man (Ibiki, Cammy)
13: Bernie (Boxer)

Like that red spot in your girlfriend's panties, look out next month on 6/26/10 for GO_Monthly #2. Next month will be SSF4, T6, & MBAA. I will post up more info in the next week.

Crossposted from the Vegas thread and fixed up the characters for MBAA.  

GGs to all and glad we at least filled a full 8 man bracket this time.  My Last Arc vs Lv.0 in losers finals was pretty hype, not gonna lie.  Also that Dee Jay in super didn't place very well for how much hype everyone was getting over his fucking vortex.  lol

Also, just so those outside the irc loop know, I was the second place winner.  The name thing...well you'll see the trend soon enough, lol.  (DONT BACK OUT ON IT LK!  LETS DO THIS SHIT TILL EVO!)

Tournaments and Events / Vegas GameOver_ Monthly #1
« on: May 25, 2010, 12:43:27 AM »
GO_ Monthlies #1
Game Over_
3310 South Nellis Boulevard #20
Las Vegas, NV 89122
May 29th, 2010
Starting at 2pm (tentative), Doors open at 10am
Entry fee $5 each game + $2 for house (you only gotta drop the $2 once if you enter multiple games)
Payouts for each game is 70/20/10

SSF4 Singles
2/3 rounds, 2/3 matches (finals are 3/5 matches)
99 second time limit
Double elimination
Loser can switch character, Winner can switch ultra

BBCS Doubles
Arcade Version (Event mode)
2v2 format, Pokemon style(A1 vs B1, A2 vs B2, Winner 1 vs Winner 2), 2/3 rounds, Draws are replayed
99 second time limit
Double Elimination
Team members must consist of different characters (EX: no 2 Ragnas on one team)

MBAA Singles
2/3 rounds, 2/3 matches (finals are 3/5 matches)
99 second time limit
Loser can switch character, Winner can switch moon
Archtype Earth is banned
Double Elimination

(lol at crossposting this so late, my bad)

Miyako Arima / F Miyako
« on: May 12, 2010, 12:02:44 PM »
Okay, individual moon style threads are long overdue.  Time to bust this shit out.

Table of Contents  (Search for the stuff in brackets for quick navigation)
  -F Miyako at a Glance  [int01]
-The Basics
  -Normals  [bas01]
  -Specials  [bas02]
  -Combos  [bas03]
-In Depth
  -Pressure and Mixups  [dep01]
  -Tech Punish vs Okizeme  [dep02]
  -Meter Management  [dep03]
  -Closing Words  [con01]

F Miyako at a Glance  [int01]

-Very high damage
-Doesn't require extremely high execution
-Strong air normals
-Good pressure (for F moon)
-Best normal throw in the game
-Relatively easy for beginners to pick up

-Short reach
-No projectiles or other zoning tools
-Horrible backdash
-Very few defensive options
-Reliant on meter usage for her best options
-Learning curve on her air dash movement

The Basics - Normals  [bas01]

5a/2a - Plus frames on block and fast as hell.  Standard shit.  Note that 5a is slightly shorter range than 2a, so you can 5aaa (whiff) 2a in blockstrings to bait poke out attempts.

5b/2b - Neutral frames on block, good reach, and moves you forward.  These are your best normals.  They are good for poking, pressure, combo starting, shield punishing, etc.  From a max range hit with either, you'll have to combo into the Max Range BnB (see combo section).

5c/BE5c - Large forward movement, huge hitbox, nice damage and good hitstun/blockstun.  Charge it up for an overhead that wallslams (for a free combo if you're close enough to the corner), or just partial charge it for frame trap goodness.  Watch out for shield if you're gonna charge/partial charge though.  It has the highest priority vs jump ins of any of her normals in this moon style, but because it wallslams vs airborne opponent and it has somewhat sizable startup, it's not really a good option most of the time.  

Note: There's an awkward glitch that can happen when you try to 5c vs an enemy attack that rushes them forward, where you will actually pass through the opponent without either of you hitting.  I've personally had it happen against F Kouma's rekkas and C vAkiha's momiji (her dashing shoryu), so I assume it can happen against anything with fast enough forward movement.  Because of the large recovery on a whiffed 5c, this usually isn't advantageous for Miyako.

2c - Reaches just a little further than 2b, but it's slow on startup and recovery, so be careful with it.  Off of any random 2c hit, you can go into the Max Range BnB (see combo section) or make use of the knockdown for okizeme.

6c/BE6c - This is her only command normal in this moon style.  It's main use is for combos (high damage!), but it can be charged for massive guard damage (600).  It has deceptively long forward reach, so it's good for catching people falling from an air counterhit, but it has far too much startup and recovery to be a good poke.  If the fully charged version hits an airborne opponent, it will cause an untechable knockdown (not that you'll ever actually see that happen).

j.a - Pretty standard.  Really small range.  There's hardly any blockstun from it, so you can tick with it into a ground throw I guess (but that's pretty predictable).

j.b - Godlike air normal.  Strong forward (and backward) priority and has lots of active frames, so stick this out early and be ready to combo off all the counterhits.  It's also a godlike crossup, but be careful because everyone tries to shield that shit.

j.c - Another great air normal.  It has deceptively great downward range and priority.  Use this as your primary air-to-ground normal.  Properly spaced, you'll see it beat out a lot of shit (like many antiair normals).

6b (Shield Counter Extension) - This is not a simple command normal, but rather an awkward and rather useless extension to Miyako's shield counter (236d after any successful shield).  It pokes out with a palm thrust similar to her j.b (or H Miyako's 5bb) and will wallslam on hit.  As far as I can tell through testing, it doesn't extend the invincibility on your shield counter at all, nor will it even be able to hit the opponent unless the counter puts them into a counterhit stun (due to the 236d launch).  It's also not useful for comboing, as it consumes one of your limited slams/bounces that you need to do most of your BnBs.  I didn't think to check how much damage or proration it adds, but for all practical purposes it is useless.

The Basics - Specials  [bas02]

236x (Flying Kick) - Unless you're feeling especially XD RANDOM, the only use for these moves is in combos.  A version CAN be used as antiair, but it's dangerous if they block it.  If you have MAX though, IH cancel 236b for one of her fastest mixups.

623x (Crescent Kick) - This can be used on the ground or in the air, but the air versions are literally useless outside of combos.  The grounded crescent kicks can be very useful though.  The a/b versions have an optional second kick (you can choose when to time the kick, or whether to kick at all) which is useful for pressure strings and baiting shields.  There is some weirdness with the b version's green hitbox (the area in which you can be hit), so sometimes it'll dodge attacks.  Don't use it as if it were a reliable reversal though.  The EX crescent kick is your only true reversal (invincible startup), but don't get predictable with it or you'll get baited and punished.  EX crescent kick is also essential for her Fullscreen BnB (see combo section).

214x (Dokan Punch) - These aren't really that useful in F, outside of charging them for overheads.  But really, if you don't use them for any reason other than overheads, people are going to catch on quick.  They can be somewhat useful in blockstrings.  BE214a, 214b, and BE214b are all only -3f on block (somewhat difficult to punish), and 214b can get you back in dat ass with its huge forward leap.  Also since you're technically airborne during most of 214b, you can hop over some sweeps, but it's character/moon dependent and I haven't really tested what it works against fully.

421x (Elbow) - These can be used in the air or on the ground.  Like the flying kicks, the primary use of these is in combos.  The elbows will always ground bounce an airborne opponent, which is key to her combos.  The EX elbow is a godlike combo ender for guaranteed knockdown in the corner.  They aren't bad in pressure though, with the massive guard damage (600, like the BE6c) and ability to cancel into whiff throw, jump, or IAD for restarting pressure.  Just don't use them too often in pressure, or else you'll end up finding out just how punishable they are.

22x (Stomp) - Good for pressure strings, mostly.  A stomp is nice for getting untechable knockdown midscreen, and it gives slight frame advantage in blockstrings.  B stomp is slow, but hits low for a free launch into combo.  It has slight negative frame advantage on block, so it's riskier to use than A stomp.  It can also be used during a quick otg string to bait out a ground tech and punish for free.  C stomp is extremely useful and also extremely vulnerable.  Any hit you take during the startup jump is an automatic counterhit, but if used correctly the opponent shouldn't be able to tell if you're doing a normal j9 into late j.c or 22c.  C stomp can be used in pressure for surprise low, has ridiculous frame advantage if blocked, and can even be used as a risky dodge and punish type maneuver to hop over an attack and stomp from behind.

Note: 22a has invulnerable frames on frame 1 and clash frames from frame 2-7, and 22b has clash frames from frame 3-12.  Because of 22b's long startup, using it to clash reversal doesn't work so well, but 22a works GREAT.  22a can potentially be used as a reversal, though it's risky and doesn't give much reward (low damage into knockdown).  Even better though, 22a can be used on reaction whenever you have a ground normal shielded.  You will guaranteed clash out their 5a/shield counter and free punish for knockdown.  It makes people rage, but more importantly, instills a fear of shielding in the opponent.  

AD/AAD - The normal AD is basically useless, especially when compared to all of the other uses for meter she has (ex dp reversal, fullscreen combo, ex elbow ender).  The AAD though, on the rare occasion that you heat activate to get out of (or restart) pressure, actually has some use to it.  It is pretty godlike at destroying any sort of jump in games (air unblockable + unshieldable), and it can be used in her AAD BnB (see combo section) for ridiculous damage + okizeme.  Most of the time you should be spending your meter on other things, as mentioned earlier.

The Basics - Combos  [bas03]

Okay, playing as F Miyako you'll quickly learn to love (or hate) the fact that practically everything she does flows into her main BnB.  There are a few exceptions to the rule, but we'll get to that later.  First, the core of her BnB.  The way comboing works with Miyako is to basically wallslam the opponent (usually through comboing into 236b, or BE5c overhead in pressure) and cancelling into b elbow for the ground bounce.  Everything goes into elbow and the followup to elbow can vary depending on your level of execution.  Generally you want to make sure to delay everything as long as possible in the combo (such as the second hit of 623bb and the j.421b cancel).  It will prevent a lot of minor character differences from affecting the combo.  Here's a general combo reference video recorded by Tiggy.

Basic BnB
(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw just before landing) [followup*]

Throw > 5b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: When using the throw BnB on wLen, it's surprisingly difficult to connect the 623b.  Just make sure to cancel everything as early as possible to prevent having so much pushback during the combo.  I don't know if anyone else (such as other loli characters) have the same weird difficulty in throw comboing.

Midscreen Variants
(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236a j.bc j.623a j.421c

Throw > 5b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236a j.bc j.623a j.421c

Note: Since your opponent can (and will) tech your airthrow 100% safely midscreen, it's ALWAYS recommended to end midscreen combos with 421c to knock them down into the corner.  Also note that it's advisable to leave out the first j.a in the air combo to keep them at the right height for 421c to connect fully.

Fullscreen Variants (requires at least 100% meter)
(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) 66 [followup*]

Throw > 5b 5c 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) 66 [followup*]

Note: The timing is strict after the elbow.  You must dash immediately on landing and cancel the dash into the 5b/2c relatively early.  I'd recommend this combo over the Midscreen BnB anytime you have meter though, as it does more damage and lets you end with throw for tech punish possibilities.

Max Range Variants
(optional 5b/2b) 2c 6c 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

(optional 5b/2b) 2c 6c 236a 236a j.bc j.623a j.421c

(optional 5b/2b) 2c 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: This works equally well from a max range 5b, 2b, or any range 2c poke.  In any other situation though, make use of the other BnBs, as they are much stronger and build more meter.

Note 2: Midscreen notes apply to the second combo.  Fullscreen notes apply to the third combo, except you do NOT have to dash or move at all after the j.421b for the followup 5b/2c to connect.

Overhead Variants
BE5c 421a (whiff throw) [followup*]

BE214b > 5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

BE214a > 5c (delay) 236a throw

Stomp Variants
22b/c 6c/5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

22b/c 66 (crossup, controls switch) 5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: Following a stomp with 6c requires you to have some distance between yourself and the opponent, since the forward movement of it will cause it to crossup whiff if you're too close.  If you're point blank with the stomp you will have to back up and 5b instead.  The 5b is fast enough though, that you can actually dash under their bounce and combo in the opposite direction (as long as you cancel the dash into 5b very quickly).  To prevent accidental double dashing (yay melty command buffer) be sure not to hold the directional input when dashing through.  Tap and release the direction quickly.

Counterhit/Shield Counter Variants
Air counterhit (land) 6c/5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Midscreen air counterhit (land) 6c/5b 236a j.bc j.623a j.421c

236d 6c/5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

236d 66 (crossup, controls switch) 5b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: Seem familiar?  Yeah, it's the same shit as the stomp combos.  Stomp notes apply here.  Using 6c or 5b is spacing dependent - step back 5b for extremely close, 6c for moderately spaced, dash 5b for very far falling air counterhits or crossup combo after shield counter.  Watch out for double dashing if you use the crossup combo.

IH Variants (requires MAX)
(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c (IH) 66a 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Throw > 5b 5c 6c (IH) 66a 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: You must dash out of the IH cancel immediately and cancel the dash into 5a as soon as possible.  

AAD Variants (requires Blood Heat)
(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) 2c 6c 41236c

(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) 66 2c 6c 41236c

Throw > 5b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b 236b j.421b (whiff throw) 2c 6c 41236c

(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b (IH) 236c 44 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623b(delay)b (IH) 236c (directional crossup) 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) 66 [followup*]

(optional 2a/j.b/j.c) 5b 2b 5c 6c 623c j.421b (whiff throw) [followup*]

Note: The first and second combo will net you a little more damage than the Basic BnB, and you can chose which corner you want to put them in.  Unfortunately, your meter will run out before the end of the combo, so ending with an EX elbow is not possible.  Watch out for double dashing during the [236c 44 6c] portion of the first combo, and keep in mind that you have to dash and cancel out of the dash as quickly as possible.  The second combo is basically a glorified Fullscreen BnB, but watch the timing on the [236c (directional crossup) 6c] part.

Note 2: The third combo is the infamous double elbow combo.  This must be done close to the corner, and can also be done off of a 623c reversal.

*Followups: The followup to j.421b can vary depending on how much work you want to put in and what you're looking to get out of it, but I find that [2c 6c 236a] is the best balance between execution and damage/meter gain.  To prevent any accidental crossup input, always be sure to take a brief step back before starting the followup.  Note that the airthrow to end any combos can ALWAYS be substituted for [j.623a j.421c] for extra damage and knockdown at the cost of 100% meter (a good tradeoff, if you ask me).

Here's the basic list of followups:
(highest execution, damage, and meter gain)
-2c 236a (airdash) j.a (delay) j.b (land) 236a j.b dj.bc throw
-2c 623b(delay)b 236a throw
-2c 6c 236a throw
-5b 236a throw
-5aa 236a throw
(lowest execution, damage, and meter gain)

Note: Because of Kouma and Warakia's weird bouncing hitbox, it is impossible to hit them with 2c after the elbow bounce.  It is possible to drop the 2c on any of the followups to get them to connect correctly though.

Note 2: If you are in MAX mode during any combo, you can change the air combo at the end of any followup to [ 623a (IH 2nd hit) dj.bc 623a j.421c] for safe life gain.  It is advisable to end with EX elbow in this case because you activate Heat, so you might as well use the meter before it runs out.

In Depth - Pressure and Mixups  [dep01]

F Miyako's pressure and mixup game is centered around these main aspects:
-Frame traps using her many plus frame normals and specials
-Throw mixups
-Gimmicks using her many dangerous, but advantageous specials
-IH mixups

Frame traps in combination with throw mixups are one of F Miyako's most powerful tools.  Catching people with tick into throw a couple times will make them want to mash like crazy, which falls victim to frame traps and staggers.  Something as simple as mixing up 2a tick into throw with 2a tick into 5a can be surprisingly effective.  Add in empty jumps and whiff meaties into throws, and they'll start feeling pretty insecure with blocking.  Use this to your advantage in baiting reversals and mashing.

Here's a list of Miyako's best frame trap moves, and the frame advantage of each:
-5a  +2
-2a  +2
-5b  +0
-2b  +0
-623aa  +5 (depending on your timing of the second hit, it can be either very -f or slightly +f)
-623bb  +7 (depending on your timing of the second hit, it can be either slightly -f or very +f)
-22a  +3 vs crouching opponent (-3 vs standing opponent)
-22b  -1 (if you both a at the first possible recovery frame, you double counterhit)
-22c  +5

Gimmicky stuff that you should use, but just not too often:
421a/b - Startup can be shield/dodge/reversal'd with relative ease, though not many try it for some reason.  Cancel into jump, superjump, or IAD to continue pressure after an elbow.  Cancel into whiff throw to land at a slight disadvantage (around -3f), but note that you can shield cancel the landing recovery to punish mashing.

623aa/bb - Only gimmicky in that the opponent can easily shield/dodge/reversal the second hit on reaction, so it's a guessing game whether to throw out the second kick (for safe pressure) or not (for shield baiting).  It's a dangerous game.  You can throw the second kick late enough that it visibly starts to kick before whiff landing.  If only the second kick manages to hit, you can 5a 236b j.421b for free combo.  If only the second kick hits, and it's a counter hit, you can 6c 236b j.421b into combo instead for more damage.

214b and BE214a/b - All of these are only -2 on block, and they have enough pushback to keep you outside of MOST people's a attacks, so it's relatively safe to throw them out and just hit with the immediate 5b/2b on recovery.  It'll punish jump out attempts and 5a/2a mashing, but loses to shield/dodge/reversal/long range a's.  Also keep in mind that 214b and BE214b can hop over some sweeps (character dependent) so you can hop back in for the punish if you catch them trying to poke out long range with their sweep.

22a/b - A version is only frame advantage when blocked low.  B version can only be blocked low, but has mad startup.  Mix em up to keep em guessing and keep you safe.

22c and j9 - C stomp and j9 (forward jump) have almost the exact same startup, so mix up between the stomp, late j.c, and empty jump into throw to keep em guessing.  The more they have to guess, the more you can keep yourself at an advantage.

Reversal 22c - This shit is SUPER RISKY.  Until you get a really good feel for what you can jump over and what you will DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH against, don't get too confident in using it.  If you feel like tempting fate though, it is able to jump over some dashing low pokes and dashing specials, and most likely will punish for a free combo if you succeed in dodging with it.

Here's some IH tricks to keep the opponent reeling: (Here's an IH reference video recorded by Tiggy.)
j.623a or any air normals can be IH cancelled for some free healing while you're laying down the damage. (see Note 2 in combo followups above)

236a/b (especially b) can be cancelled during any of the active frames (even on whiff) for some really fast high/low/crossup silliness.  It can also be great for re-establishing pressure when you've pushed back out too far with IH 236b, or good for a sort of extra speedy super jump with IH 236a.  The latter is more useful as a TIME TO GTFO maneuver than anything else.

623aa/bb can IH cancel the second kick on block, allowing you to get a high/low mixup.  The only problem is this is much more telegraphed, since you have to throw out the second hit MUCH earlier than you ever would normally in order to have enough time for your j.b/c to come out as you fall to the ground.  You can, however, late IH cancel into IAD j.b/c and just mix that up with the late IH cancel into drop 2b.  It's a little harder on the execution, but also slightly harder to react to.

j.623a's second hit can be IH cancelled on hit/block/whiff, but the timing is strict.  With the rising movement of j.623a, this can potentially be used for silly things like deep j.c j.623a (second hit whiffs) IH falling j.c.  It's not godlike, but it will probably surprise someone the first time they see it.

Triple j.c IH fuzzy guard.  This can be started in one of two ways.  Either throw out the deepest j.c possible, or do an IAD j.bc where both normals hit.  Both starts require strict timing on your part.  The fuzzy guard goes like this: (optional j.b) deep j.c dj.c IH (falling) j.c (land) 2a into BnB.  This is one of the hardest things for a Miyako player to reliably pull off, due to the timing on the whole thing.  If you manage to pull it off though, you're almost guaranteed a free combo, since nobody ever expects a fuzzy from F Miyako.

In Depth - Tech punish vs Okizeme  [dep02]
How you end your BnB can either give you very strong okizeme options or an opportunity to tech punish.  Also off of any random 2c or 22a hit, you can go for a short OTG into tech bait or use the knockdown for okizeme.  In the rare chance that you land an AAD, it will give the most ridiculous okizeme ever.  I'll go over each option individually and throw out some basic ideas of what you can do.

Tech punish from corner airthrow
Ending the BnB by airthrowing yourself into the corner allows you to mindlessly [land > dash 2a] to begin an OTG combo or punish any backward or neutral techs.  Backward tech punish requires a midscreen or fullscreen combo, but a neutral tech causes you to crossup the opponent and punish with your normal corner BnB.  If you see the rare occurance where someone forward techs back into the corner, just cancel your dash into 2b (instead of 2a) on reaction to re-establish corner pressure (or get a max range BnB if you catch them not blocking).  

OTG into tech punish
After a corner airthrow or any random midscreen 2c or 22a, your OTG options are limited.  Since it's a midscreen OTG, you can't really do a long OTG for damage.  Instead, the best option is to use a short OTG to bait a tech and punish.  This requires some guesswork about which direction the opponent will tech (if they tech at all) though.  Your easiest midscreen options for OTG tech punish are:
-2a 66 2b (Punishes neutral and back techs.  Crosses up vs neutral tech.  Safe vs no tech.)
-2a 22b (Punishes neutral and forward techs.  Does not cross up vs neutral tech.  Unsafe vs no tech.)

If you happen to get a knockdown with 22a during corner pressure, you can add on significantly more hits to your OTG string while still leaving yourself free to tech punish.  Your basic corner OTG string will be:
-dash 2aaaaa 5b 5c
This will let you recover in time to punish back/neutral tech with 2a into Basic BnB, punish forward tech with 2c into Max Range BnB, or get okizeme options if they don't tech.  If you feel like it, you can tack on a slightly delayed 22b to the end of the corner OTG string, as it will punish any tech for a free Stomp BnB, but you'll be stuck in its long recovery if they don't tech.  You can also throw in a 623aa (no delay) if you are looking to IH cancel for safe life gain.

OTG non-tech okizeme
If you do are going to OTG and expect them NOT to tech, you can do some fun stuff.  If you OTG with a single 2a, you can crossup off of 22c or a forward jump.  If you OTG with 2aa, your 22c or forward jump will not crossup.  This gives you a lot of options for high/low/throw + which way games.  
-(slight delay) 22c (meaty low)
-(slight delay) 9j.b/c (meaty overhead)
-9j (land) 2a (meaty low)
-9j (land) throw (throw)
-9j.b/c (whiff land) 2a (fake overhead, meaty low)
-9j.b/c (whiff land) throw (fake overhead, throw)
-9j (delay) j.44 j.b/c (delayed overhead, ex shield bait, double crossup with 2a OTG)
-(slight delay) 9j (delay) j.44 j.b/c (delayed overhead, ex shield bait, no double crossup)

All of these will change from crossup to non crossup depending on whether you OTG with 2a or 2aa.  The only downside is if they catch on and back tech 2aa, as it's very difficult to punish a back tech from anything more than one 2a.

Okizeme from untechable knockdown
Any random midscreen 2c or 22a will give you an untechable knockdown.  Even from max range, you can easily get a pseudo-sandoori type mixup by utilizing [dash > neutral jump] to carry you over the opponent.  You can lean the neutral jump back (hold 4 after you neutral jump) to prevent the crossup, or you can air backdash to get a double crossup (her air backdash is slow and very projected though).  Whether you slightly delay the dash into neutral jump or not can also determine whether your air normals will hit meaty or whiff land for high/low/throw mixups.  The options available to you are very similar to those listed in the OTG oki section above.

Ending a BnB with EX elbow also gives you an untechable knockdown in the corner.  You don't have quite as much okizeme time with this, but you're right on top of the opponent, so you still have a number of options.
-dash 2a meaty (beats wakeup dodge/mashing, initiates combo/pressure, loses to shield, can shield cancel to beat some reversals)
-5b meaty (beats wakeup low shield/mashing, initiates combo/pressure, loses to reversal/dodge/high shield)
-2b meaty (beats wakeup high shield/mashing, initiates combo/pressure, loses to reversal/dodge/low shield)
-whiff 5b/2b into throw (beats wakeup shield/dodge/block, loses to reversal/mashing)
-dash IABD j.c (quick overhead, beats wakeup low shield/mashing, initiates combo/pressure, loses to reversal/high shield/dodge)
-9j.c (beats low shield/mashing/most reversals, initiates combo/pressure, loses to high shield/dodge)
-9j.66 j.c (same as 9j.c, except airdash to bait heat/high shield/dodge, but gives a window to dash out)
-9j (land) 2a (same as dash 2a, except sacrificing meaty hit for high/low mixup)
-9j (land) throw (same as whiff into throw)
-22c (fake jumpin for high/low mixup, initiates combo/pressure, loses to mash/shield/dodge/reversal)
-dash Blood Heat activate (beats almost everything, requires MAX, use for life gain and opportunity to tech punish into AAD BnB)

Finally, the AAD is pretty amazing.  It gives the most okizeme time of any move in her arsenal, and you can very easily play crossup games or run any sort of pseudo-sandoori or forward jump mixups you want.  Even if the opponent is fully cornered, after an AAD hit you will be able to crossup (even though it still looks like they're fully in the corner).  The most important aspect of AAD though, is that it shoots up a big cloud of dust for a moment just before they wake up.  You can use this to mask a mixup attempt (giving them less time to see it and react) or even to charge an overhead meaty.  Keep in mind that although you won't have many opportunities to use the AAD and any mixups off of it, that just makes it a stronger tool as your opponent will have a harder time reacting to something they rarely see.

In Depth - Meter Managment  [dep03]

Full Moon is a style that has a strong emphasis on being aware of your meter and manipulating it to your needs due to its unique and very strong moon-specific meter tools.  F Miyako is a character that needs meter for her most important tools.  Thankfully, her BnB builds up a lot of meter, and her pressure game can lead to decently long blockstrings to also help supply the meter that she needs.  Whether you need a reversal or want a strong knockdown to set up corner pressure after a BnB - you'll need to burn some meter.  Saving up meter can also be useful to intimidate your opponent, mix up during pressure, and (most importantly) regain life.  In this section we'll be going over the use/misuse of meter, and the philosophy behind saving it up vs burning it all away.

Let's start off by looking at all her meter use options and the uses for each
236c - This is only useful in limited situations, but is usually overshadowed by other options.  You can use it in EMPIRE COMBOS, but that's pretty much if you just want to be flashy for no real reason.  It's also a reversal.  Though the mook's frame data shows it as having inv frames from 2-21, it reversals through a perfect meaty attack on live testing (both mbaa mooks use outdated arcade frame data).  The only problem with using it as reversal?  It goes clean over crouching opponents, whiffing and leaving you open to a possible punish.  In other words, you're better off not wasting meter on this.

214c - Similar to 236c, this is easily overshadowed by other options in most situations.  It's only real practical use is also as a reversal.  On the good side, it has inv frames from 1-13, is only -3 frames on block (which is just barely safe), and it wallslams for a free BnB (use the BE5c combo) or just gets them away to give you breathing room (and time to charge meter back up).  On the bad side, it has pretty massive startup (7+9 frames), making it pretty unlikely that you'll actually hit anything.  Unfortunately, that one negative is enough to make this move a relatively poor choice for reversal.

623c - This move is F Miyako's strongest reversal.  It has inv frames from 1-9, has a 1+3 frame startup, and leads into the Fullscreen BnB.  The only major downsides as a reversal are its weakness to deep crossups and that it is extremely punishable if crouch blocked.  Use it, but don't abuse it.  As a combo utility, it is very useful in the Fullscreen BnB.  Don't use the aerial version of this move though; for all practical purposes it is useless.

421c - As a combo ender, this is almost essential to her game.  It allows her to get an untechable knockdown and strong corner okizeme, which is unique to this moon style of Miyako.  Outside of j.421c as a combo ender, it's practically useless.  Don't use the ground version ever.  On whiff, this is the most punishable move she has.  

As you can see, the only real purpose for spending meter is for reversal (623c), full screen bnb (623c), or untechable knockdown (j.421c).  The most common (and useful) of these three you'll be using is the EX Elbow for knockdown in combos.  You'll basically want to look for a reason to spend meter any time you have a significant life lead and don't want to go into MAX mode.  Now, let's take a look at your options once you have entered MAX.

MAX mode and the options it opens up
Saving up meter for MAX mode is pretty easy if you end your combos with an airthrow, which still leaves you open to tech punish and non-tech okizeme opportunities.  Once you're in MAX, you have four main options that open up for use.

Safe IH - If you find yourself lower than your opponent in life and actually have a decent amount of red life left, the easiest thing to do in a neutral situation is to IH cancel 214a on whiff.  It's very fast and doesn't change your position much, so use it when you need safe life gain.

IH mixups - These are her strongest (and least gimmicky) mixup options, so don't be afraid to abuse them if you hit MAX while on the offensive.  Be cautious of using it when you have no need for the life gain though, as ending up with 0% after IH mixup is a lot more dangerous than ending up with 100% for just riding out the MAX.

Blood Heat activation - This can be used both as a reversal and as a way to reset pressure while regaining life.  It also opens the door to the fearsome AAD BnB, possible AAD anti-air, or even a Last Arc from ground shield.  Just the threat of these options is oftentimes enough to change momentum in a match, such as making a strong zoning character think twice about throwing out those very shieldable projectiles.  Be weary of using activation as a reversal though, as it's incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention to your meter and extremely easy to bait and punish.  Also, don't even think about wasting your meter on this if you don't actually need the life gain, as the risks far outweigh the rewards.

Circuit Spark - The spark is essential for those instances when you get caught in a life ending combo, but can also be used to reset to neutral when under heavy pressure.  It's very advantageous to just sit on MAX when you are laying down pressure on the opponent.  If they successfully poke or reversal out of your pressure, you can easily spark to reset them back into a disadvantageous position again.  A second advantage to this is that if you don't find yourself needing to spark, then you end up with a nice 100% meter to keep your game strong.  Be careful against seasoned players though, as they'll be ready to bait that early spark as soon as they see you in MAX.  The only relatively surefire way to spark safely is to wait until they go into a special or air combo during the combo string, though you will have usually already taken the brunt of the damage by that point, depending on the character/combo.

Saving meter vs Spending it
Now that you know the advantages of both, which is really the best option?  There are three important things to look at when deciding how to manage your meter - life totals, time on the clock, and the character matchup you are playing against.  The relative skill level of your opponent is important too, but this is assuming they're comparable to your own skill level. 

Life and time - These two go hand in hand.  It is of utmost importance to keep a constant eye on who has the life lead, how much red life you have, and how much time is left in the match.  Use these to your advantage when deciding when you need to save up your meter - such as a last minute IH to take the life lead and win the match via timeup.  If you have the life lead or have been chipped down so much that you have practically no red life, then burning off an IH or BH activation is generally a bad idea, so use your meter instead of letting yourself hit max.  After all, burning a bit of meter and having around 200% is a lot more manageable than coming out of MAX with only 100%.  The ideal goal is to keep yourself within range of hitting max at all times, so when you suddenly get caught by a combo and end up needing the life gain, it's right at your fingertips.

Matchups - This is something important to know, but also the hardest thing to have a comprehensive knowledge of thanks to melty's massive tourney-viable roster.  Some important things to keep track of are which characters are good at zoning you out (BH is useful for nullifying many zoning options), which have very good reversal or escape options (use Ex Elbow okizeme to bait and punish escape options or intimidate with MAX mode's anti-reversal spark), and which characters are good at keeping you in lockdown with their godlike pressure (reversal 623c can beat any non-crossup mixup and you can safely spark on any special used in pressure).

As long as you can stay aware of these things, you can use all of the meter options at your disposal to their maximum potential.  Trust me when I say that strong meter management is often the key to winning rough matches.

Closing Words  [con01]

This is my first time seriously writing a character guide for a fighter, so I hope you've enjoyed it and learned something along the way.  Much thanks to Tiggy, Press, and Shiki for recording videos and helping me test out various things, and a big thanks to all the WC players that take time to help me improve my own understanding of the game.  All of the things noted in the guide are taken from observation and first-hand experience, but feedback on anything I've missed or could improve upon is always appreciated.  I feel that F Miyako is a strong, fun character to play, especially if you can intimidate your opponent enough to respect your gimmicks.  She's also a great character for beginners to build up a good sense of aerial spacing and strengthen their mid-to-high level execution.  Keep on reppin that True Loli Fu and I look forward to seeing you all at tourneys!

Akiha's Tea Room / Well, it's that time again
« on: February 22, 2010, 11:21:45 PM »
My soul is calling out once again.  It's time for my annual Ogre Battle 64 playthrough.  This game is something like my holy grail; however, I'm not here to preach about why I love the game.  

Now, I know that replaying games isn't a big deal to many people, but personally, there are extremely few games that I will play any more than once.  If there's some reason for replay value, such as new game + or whatever, I'll usually play until I get full completion and that's it.  For a game to make me want to play it beyond has to be truly extraordinary.  The only exception to this, of course, would be games based around repetition such as competitive multiplayer games (and even then, usually those types don't hold me well).

So, with that in mind, what are those games that regularly give you the urge to revisit them?

I thought this was pretty awesome, so I moved it to Melty Bread Announcements.  Let's get to work, meltybros.

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