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Tournaments and Events / Re: NECX in Philly -- the fourth annual Northeast Melty Major [12/05-06/2009]
« on: September 19, 2009, 03:39:56 PM »
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 19, 2009, 10:19:17 AM »
Crap, found out we're broke for probably the rest of the month.
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Ciel's Tech Support / Re: REAL PS2/PS3 Converter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:39:13 PM »
Guess my friend with a Hori is lucky he has a 360 stick instead of a PS3 stick, thus rendering a converter unnecessary
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:35:17 PM »Alright, I've pretty much got it down to between the JLF-TP-8Y (-SK?) and the JLF-TP-8YT-SK. What's the differences between these? According to Remxi, it seems the 8Y seems to fit in the holes left by the stock stick, which I don't know if the other one will.
BTW, what does pcb stand for?
The T means it has a rectangle metal mounting plate inbetween the top of the stick and the insides. I've seen someone use one of these on a mayflash but it means they had 4 screws protruding from the faceplate near the stick. Those three that you mentioned should all fit the holes left by the mayflash, the T will just make it harder to install (but probably a little more solid).
SK means shaft cover. It's a little plastic cylinder that fits over the shaft going to the balltop. Just preference really, I prefer just having the metal there as it's thinner without the shaft cover kit.
PCB = Printed Circuit Board iirc.
Ah, thanks! Thank God I didn't go ahead and order the thing, I don't think I'd be able to stand a shaft cover; I'm already starting to get used to my current thing that doesn't have it, using the wineglass grip.
Now I see what the T part means, but now I'm really unsure if I want the T or not... if I get the JLF-TP-8Y (without the plate), would it be possible to put the plate in later if it turns out that it's not solid enough? Though you use the JLF-TP-8Y yourself, right Remxi? Actually, I think that since you seem to have done it yourself and it turned out fine with the JLF-TP-8Y and OBSF-30 buttons (no question what buttons to use there), I'll get those. Probably order them tomorrow evening (unless someone persuades me otherwise).
Does anyone know anything about using quick disconnects versus soldering the wires directly to the buttons? That vid I watched the guy liked them since he can switch out buttons easily, but I'm not planning on replacing the buttons for a long time, or even putting on artwork (I like the simple black).
Finally, another question about holding the arcade stick. I find the wineglass most comfortable, but should I have the back of my hand resting on the surface or raised off of it? Do most people find it better to push the shaft further between middle and ring or leave it looser? Should I keep my right wrist resting on the surface or keep it raised, like I'm playing a piano? (this last one kinda concerns me a bit since while I've been resting it on the surface, I've gotten the weird arm pains and I think it might lead to carpal tunnel - possibly).
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 05:11:41 PM »
Alright, I've pretty much got it down to between the JLF-TP-8Y (-SK?) and the JLF-TP-8YT-SK. What's the differences between these? According to Remxi, it seems the 8Y seems to fit in the holes left by the stock stick, which I don't know if the other one will.
BTW, what does pcb stand for?
BTW, what does pcb stand for?
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Okay, playing any MB with a Saturn pad is weird.
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:37:31 PM »
I'm curious (my favorite way to start a post, lol). How do you hold a six-button pad? I'm all thumbs (that is, I do almost everything with my thumbs except for shoulder buttons), but I've heard that with six buttons you are supposed to put your fingers on top of the controller stick-style (which is why I'm never getting a saturn pad). Is it practical to do it with your thumb or do you absolutely have to put your fingers on top of it?
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:35:21 PM »
Well, I got my Mayflash stick off play-asia awhile back for like $50, with like $30 shipping. Then I see it now on Amazon for like $32, with roughly $10 for shipping. Figures.
The stock joystick and buttons mine comes with are pretty crappy, but it seems to work ok for me now with my matching crappy skills. The case is very solid, it can be plugged into a ps2 or pc, with a converter it's supposed to work on dc, gc, xbox, and 360. Plus, there's 8 buttons instead of 6, good to have some to spare to try out different arrangements.
However, by itself all the pros are outweighed by the terrible joystick and buttons (for crying out loud, a ball-top that constantly is trying to unscrew itself?). This can be remedied by doing what I'm planning to do, to mod it putting in higher-quality sanwa or seimitsu joystick and buttons. This is a bit complicated (it's scaring me a bit...) but it's supposed to be a great stick to mod.
Now, as your first stick I'm not sure you should follow my example and get this one, but this is the only one I can give a critique of, so maybe the others can give you advice on other sticks. Hori are supposed to have good sticks. If you're willing to mod, the Mayflash one can become a good stick (some people prefer it modded to many other good sticks, but not everyone wants to do some soldering and stuff like that.
Still trying to figure out which JLF stick would be best to get, btw. Input appreciated on this would be appreciated
The stock joystick and buttons mine comes with are pretty crappy, but it seems to work ok for me now with my matching crappy skills. The case is very solid, it can be plugged into a ps2 or pc, with a converter it's supposed to work on dc, gc, xbox, and 360. Plus, there's 8 buttons instead of 6, good to have some to spare to try out different arrangements.
However, by itself all the pros are outweighed by the terrible joystick and buttons (for crying out loud, a ball-top that constantly is trying to unscrew itself?). This can be remedied by doing what I'm planning to do, to mod it putting in higher-quality sanwa or seimitsu joystick and buttons. This is a bit complicated (it's scaring me a bit...) but it's supposed to be a great stick to mod.
Now, as your first stick I'm not sure you should follow my example and get this one, but this is the only one I can give a critique of, so maybe the others can give you advice on other sticks. Hori are supposed to have good sticks. If you're willing to mod, the Mayflash one can become a good stick (some people prefer it modded to many other good sticks, but not everyone wants to do some soldering and stuff like that.
Still trying to figure out which JLF stick would be best to get, btw. Input appreciated on this would be appreciated
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Ciel's Tech Support / Re: REAL PS2/PS3 Converter + USB Rate Tweaker = Godsend
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:20:34 PM »
While I don't claim to be able to analyse it frame-by-frame, nor have much experience with the ps2 controller plugged into an actual ps2, my super dual box pro always seemed to get the job done with my dualshock 2. After I lost that, my "usb super converter" that I got seems to work just as well (even though I don't even know who made this thing).
I'm trying to switch to using the arcade stick. Mayflash's stick sucks, but that's why I'm planning on modding it. At least, since it is both usb AND ps2, I don't have to deal with converters when using it on the pc or ps2. With a converter, I used it just fine to play CvS2 on my Dreamcast (though I'm probably worse with a stick at that game than I am at MBAA).
I'm trying to switch to using the arcade stick. Mayflash's stick sucks, but that's why I'm planning on modding it. At least, since it is both usb AND ps2, I don't have to deal with converters when using it on the pc or ps2. With a converter, I used it just fine to play CvS2 on my Dreamcast (though I'm probably worse with a stick at that game than I am at MBAA).
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:58:56 PM »
I found this video :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlnHh4KhfaQ and he used a crappy $8 radioshack soldering iron. My dad actually said that's the one he has, one he got years ago and had some problems with, apparently, but while he's still skeptical I'm a bit more confident. Not to mention there's that desoldering braid if we make a mistake...
He also had a link to another site for the stick and buttons, and it showed me the difference between the JLF sticks. Only thing is, which of these JLF sticks should I use? The guy in that vid used the JLF-TP-8T, and Remxi recommended the JLF-TP-8Y, and I think I've heard the JLF-TP-8YT mentioned as well...
Interesting that he mentioned he got that big kit with arcade stick parts at a oriental supermarket. I know there's a Japanese market in Harrisburg, but I think they probably only sell food...
He also had a link to another site for the stick and buttons, and it showed me the difference between the JLF sticks. Only thing is, which of these JLF sticks should I use? The guy in that vid used the JLF-TP-8T, and Remxi recommended the JLF-TP-8Y, and I think I've heard the JLF-TP-8YT mentioned as well...
Interesting that he mentioned he got that big kit with arcade stick parts at a oriental supermarket. I know there's a Japanese market in Harrisburg, but I think they probably only sell food...
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Akiha Tohno / Re: C/H-Akiha Combos
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:00:05 PM »
Hmm, in MBAA seems I still can't pull off the airdash yet, likely enough my unfamiliarity with the stick is part of the problem 
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 01:57:55 PM »
Crap, I just ran into a major hitch for my plan. My dad just got home from a trip, and according to him, the only soldering iron we have is a crappy inprecise one, which could mess things up if used with an electronic project (doing stuff with circuit boards, etc.).
So unless I can find some way of acquiring a soldering iron, I'm going to have to shelve this idea
So unless I can find some way of acquiring a soldering iron, I'm going to have to shelve this idea
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Akiha Tohno / Re: C/H-Akiha Combos
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:40:08 AM »
Hmm, guess I'll work on the airdash a bit. I found the timing hard to do, but it's been awhile since I tried the airdash. Could be easier, now that I'm practicing MBAA with an arcade stick (I can sometimes get that whole combo down with the stick, that's amazing to me with only 1 night of practice using a stick I haven't touched since I'd given up on it months ago).
I'll look into that newer combo, though it looks quite complicated. Since 2a6c4c5c2c is ingrained into me now, I'll probably go with your idea of using that as the ground portion. The tk.236{B}-land looks like it'll be the hard part for me, both as I'm breaking with the combo I'm used to, and because I don't know how to tk a flametongue. What's the inputs for that?
Oh, I did notice that the original MBAC combo from the guide seemed to work best if I dashed in, or right after they hit me and I blocked. Far more difficult after a jump-in, though I'd usually still dash after that. What I was able to do is sometimes work into part of the combo from whatever was happening (like make the ground portion shorter, or simply 2a2c5bb etc.).
I'll look into that newer combo, though it looks quite complicated. Since 2a6c4c5c2c is ingrained into me now, I'll probably go with your idea of using that as the ground portion. The tk.236{B}-land looks like it'll be the hard part for me, both as I'm breaking with the combo I'm used to, and because I don't know how to tk a flametongue. What's the inputs for that?
Oh, I did notice that the original MBAC combo from the guide seemed to work best if I dashed in, or right after they hit me and I blocked. Far more difficult after a jump-in, though I'd usually still dash after that. What I was able to do is sometimes work into part of the combo from whatever was happening (like make the ground portion shorter, or simply 2a2c5bb etc.).
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Kohaku's Magical Garage / What IS a whiff?
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:28:48 AM »
I hear this mentioned all the time in higher-level combos but I'm not sure what it is. I'm guessing it's when an attack doesn't it normally, or something like that. Anyone?
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Akiha Tohno / Re: C/H-Akiha Combos
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:25:11 AM »
I've confirmed that Psylocke's BNB from his MBAC guide works with C-Akiha: 2a6c4c5c2c5bb j.bc dj.bc airthrow. Yeah, I know I'm supposed to airdash, but considering the time it'd take to learn how to do that, I don't see the point beside cornering them, unless it hurts them more than a normal airthrow. I can do the rest of the combo pretty fine without it.
BTW, I know this combo is from Psylocke's guide, but does anyone actually use it as a BNB? Out of those people I've talked to and from what I've seen on these forums, it seems like most use different ones. Newbies use easier BNBs (such as 2abc5bb j.bc dj.bc airthrow), and experts use more complicated ones, leaving me in the middle.
Edit: Also, what the heck does BE5B mean? Does that mean you do the longer version holding down the first 5b before you do the second? Don't they usually write that as 5b ?
BTW, I know this combo is from Psylocke's guide, but does anyone actually use it as a BNB? Out of those people I've talked to and from what I've seen on these forums, it seems like most use different ones. Newbies use easier BNBs (such as 2abc5bb j.bc dj.bc airthrow), and experts use more complicated ones, leaving me in the middle.
Edit: Also, what the heck does BE5B mean? Does that mean you do the longer version holding down the first 5b before you do the second? Don't they usually write that as 5b ?
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Akiha Tohno / Re: Akiha's trap...
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:20:15 AM »
Notice people, this IS the MBAC forum. There's no moon variations, so he definately can use the flame-pit.
Anyway, 22 A or B or C sets it, they'll drain enemy health. C is best since it does it best and also drains their magic bar. 22 A or B or C (depending on which you used to set it up) will ignite it and hurt them as well (usually a good idea to wait till right before it disappears on its own so you get the most use out of it).
As to the arc-drive, I try to only use it when I know they can't block; even then sometimes I save my magic bar. The command grab version is better, however I don't know if that goes through a block like a normal grab.
Anyway, 22 A or B or C sets it, they'll drain enemy health. C is best since it does it best and also drains their magic bar. 22 A or B or C (depending on which you used to set it up) will ignite it and hurt them as well (usually a good idea to wait till right before it disappears on its own so you get the most use out of it).
As to the arc-drive, I try to only use it when I know they can't block; even then sometimes I save my magic bar. The command grab version is better, however I don't know if that goes through a block like a normal grab.
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 18, 2009, 07:14:11 AM »
If the E button wasn't in the arcade, I wouldn't use it. Since it is, I'm happy to take advantage of it (particularly considering that my crappy buttons make hitting three buttons at once difficult).
ABC
DXE
What the heck is the X supposed to be?
I know what the arcade setup for the buttons are, I was just wondering how other people have adapted it to their mayflash sticks, modded or not. This is because the most obvious arrangement gives me some wierd pains in my fore-arm and I don't know if that'll go away or not once I get more accustomed to this thing.
ABC
DXE
What the heck is the X supposed to be?
I know what the arcade setup for the buttons are, I was just wondering how other people have adapted it to their mayflash sticks, modded or not. This is because the most obvious arrangement gives me some wierd pains in my fore-arm and I don't know if that'll go away or not once I get more accustomed to this thing.
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 17, 2009, 08:23:28 PM »
When I said double-tapping I meant hitting the stick twice to the right or twice to the left to dash. Guess I should have been clearer, sry.
Edit: I started practicing a combo in MBAA with the stick, and using the wineglass really helped! At this pace I'll be able to do the combo well enough faster than it took me to learn it on pad (though I still flub it sometimes on pad). Double-tapping the stick left to dash left is still harder than to do it right, but I guess I'll get used to it in time.
One problems is that while my left thumb is now getting a break (not to mention the wrist), my right arm feels kinda uncomfortable. I've got 6 as A, 7 as B, 8 as C, 2 as D, 4 as E. Maybe I'll get used to it the way I got used to my wrist being uncomfortable with playing a 2d fighter on the pad. What is your button setup, Remxi? (since it seems you have the same stick, modded).
Most importantly, where can I buy the new buttons and stick for a good price?
2nd Edit: I found them on Amazon, kinda expensive, though. Then I found them on a website called gamingnow, and they appear to be cheaper. Cheaper to buy 8 buttons separately in a colour I want than six together on amazon. Then they have the stick cheaper too. Anything else I'd need for the stick?
Oh, and what would be the best tutorial to follow to do it?
Edit: I started practicing a combo in MBAA with the stick, and using the wineglass really helped! At this pace I'll be able to do the combo well enough faster than it took me to learn it on pad (though I still flub it sometimes on pad). Double-tapping the stick left to dash left is still harder than to do it right, but I guess I'll get used to it in time.
One problems is that while my left thumb is now getting a break (not to mention the wrist), my right arm feels kinda uncomfortable. I've got 6 as A, 7 as B, 8 as C, 2 as D, 4 as E. Maybe I'll get used to it the way I got used to my wrist being uncomfortable with playing a 2d fighter on the pad. What is your button setup, Remxi? (since it seems you have the same stick, modded).
Most importantly, where can I buy the new buttons and stick for a good price?
2nd Edit: I found them on Amazon, kinda expensive, though. Then I found them on a website called gamingnow, and they appear to be cheaper. Cheaper to buy 8 buttons separately in a colour I want than six together on amazon. Then they have the stick cheaper too. Anything else I'd need for the stick?
Oh, and what would be the best tutorial to follow to do it?
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Tournaments and Events / Re: NECX in Philly -- the fourth annual Northeast Melty Major [12/05-06/2009]
« on: September 17, 2009, 08:20:41 PM »Players you can know call to reserve your rooms at the hotel check srk for info.
Stick please copy and paste.
Any time by which you need to have your reservation in by?
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: How to run Melty Blood Actress Again on your PC
« on: September 17, 2009, 07:12:39 PM »
First, to anyone who wants to play on ps2 instead of pc, I'll just say: get Magic Swap Disc. Works perfectly, is inexpensive, no modding, doesn't void any ps2 warrenty. I also heard about using the memor32 memory card to put on memento firmware, which allows you to play without swapping discs. Only thing is, you have to rip the game off the disc to a pc, patch it, then burn it to a dvd-r (which I can't find a problem with since it's your own game you bought anyhow).
Another thing to keep in mind for MBAA on PC is that from what I understand, Sega Naomi (the arcade machine MBAA runs on) emulation is coming along quite well, and I believe MBAC B2 is supposed to work. There's little point doing that (what with the PC version and all...) but I don't see why MBAA won't work. Should run better than using a ps2 emulator, at least.
Another thing to keep in mind for MBAA on PC is that from what I understand, Sega Naomi (the arcade machine MBAA runs on) emulation is coming along quite well, and I believe MBAC B2 is supposed to work. There's little point doing that (what with the PC version and all...) but I don't see why MBAA won't work. Should run better than using a ps2 emulator, at least.
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Melty Blood Auditorium / Playing Melty Blood with an arcade stick?
« on: September 17, 2009, 06:52:50 PM »
Ok guys, let me begin by saying that while I've had a mayflash arcade stick for awhile now, I've never gotten particularly good with it in any fighting game. Part of this is due to the fact that the stock stick and buttons are fairly crappy, but more importantly learning the arcade stick is almost as hard as learning Melty Blood. In the past I had given up on learning to use it for CvS2 and KOF, but now I decided to try Melty Blood.
Any idea how long it'd probably take to get really used to this thing? If reaching the level I'm at with a controller will take a year of training, I'm not completely sure it's worth it (however, I'm thinking it won't take quite that long).
Any ideas on how exactly to hold the stick? I rest the left side of my hand on the body of the thing and grasp the ball (Japanese style stick), between thumb and index fingers. The problem is that double-tapping left is a LOT harder than double-tapping right (though at least I seem to be able to IAD as easily as with the pad - which is not very reliably).
Lastly, I'm thinking of modding this thing. Anyone know what kind of stick and buttons I should get? I also have zero experience in soldering, and using a dremel saw. Is there going to be anyone at NECX that could possibly help me mod it? I'd bring the parts and tools and someone could help me do it. I've seen a pictoral tutorial on shoryuken, but while it's supposed to be an easy stick to mod, I'm still quite afraid of messing up.
Any idea how long it'd probably take to get really used to this thing? If reaching the level I'm at with a controller will take a year of training, I'm not completely sure it's worth it (however, I'm thinking it won't take quite that long).
Any ideas on how exactly to hold the stick? I rest the left side of my hand on the body of the thing and grasp the ball (Japanese style stick), between thumb and index fingers. The problem is that double-tapping left is a LOT harder than double-tapping right (though at least I seem to be able to IAD as easily as with the pad - which is not very reliably).
Lastly, I'm thinking of modding this thing. Anyone know what kind of stick and buttons I should get? I also have zero experience in soldering, and using a dremel saw. Is there going to be anyone at NECX that could possibly help me mod it? I'd bring the parts and tools and someone could help me do it. I've seen a pictoral tutorial on shoryuken, but while it's supposed to be an easy stick to mod, I'm still quite afraid of messing up.
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Tournaments and Events / Re: NECX in Philly -- the fourth annual Northeast Melty Major [12/05-06/2009]
« on: September 17, 2009, 06:41:59 PM »BTW, are all the people in the MBAA tourney going to be serious experts? If there are some newer players, I might consider entering, even though all that does is increase the chances of my winning a single match (plus if I'm already paying a good bit of money to go, another $10 over the $10 to watch isn't too much).
Oh, and once again, there anyone wanting to share a room, split the cost?
Dude NEC is the biggest mb event, there will be some free players like me there but 98% of the people going are the best mb players in the country. And can't help on the room I think mine is almost full.
Well, I'm 95% sure I'm going, even if I'll have to have a room by myself and pay $90 a night. I've decided to start practicing MBAA with my arcade stick (I use dualshock 2 for MBAC). Feels like I'm starting from scratch learning to combo, but considering how noobish I am it's not too bad - though using that big thing feels like learning to ride a bike again.
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Tournaments and Events / Re: NECX in Philly -- the fourth annual Northeast Melty Major [12/05-06/2009]
« on: September 17, 2009, 06:21:38 AM »
BTW, are all the people in the MBAA tourney going to be serious experts? If there are some newer players, I might consider entering, even though all that does is increase the chances of my winning a single match (plus if I'm already paying a good bit of money to go, another $10 over the $10 to watch isn't too much).
Oh, and once again, there anyone wanting to share a room, split the cost?
Oh, and once again, there anyone wanting to share a room, split the cost?
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NetPlay Community / Re: MB netplay tourny?
« on: September 16, 2009, 08:02:08 PM »
It's not an incredibly horrible idea. GGPO's games emulate the arcade versions; Sega Naomi emulation works, from what I understand, and I belive MBAC is emulated (though why anyone would want to with the pc version available is beyond me).
If not GGPO (which I prefer over...) then there's always 2df freeplay (which has some less popular games anyway already).
If not GGPO (which I prefer over...) then there's always 2df freeplay (which has some less popular games anyway already).
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NetPlay Community / Re: Possible Other Place to Gather Other than IRC?
« on: September 16, 2009, 07:58:29 PM »
That would be an interesting idea, Necroposter (lol). I'm personally in favour of vent.
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Regional Community / Re: NY/NJ/PA/CT/MA
« on: September 16, 2009, 11:36:52 AM »there is with ver.A .. problem is it got caught in a fire.. so i think they reopen in like a month
I see. Maybe I'll see where it is in Dec. as I'm going to NECX.
Next note: Any else of you going to NECX? It's a good chance to meet MB players I'm thinking.
Next: Anyone at all live near Harrisburg? I'm a bit west of it (annoying as it's just far enough away from Philly to be too far for ordinary trips).