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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - "Same Character" Poll
« on: June 06, 2008, 03:32:32 PM »
I don't care which way this issue goes anymore.  If the rules stick, that just means that the idea of US's only two MECHs teaming together scares everyone and I'll take that as a compliment.  Don't bother w/ a feeble rebuttle about character variety.  This is a big tournament for big money.  Winning is the issue, not character variety.  But if people want to up their chances w/ rules, I'll just have to enter with...say...a top tier character that everyone else uses?  ::)  Either way, good luck to everyone and all your monies are belong to us.   :prinny:

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: June 06, 2008, 03:17:17 PM »
I mean you have proof with Kyro right here. He wants to join Kijea and Nerina,

This is no longer the case but since the "decide teams one month before Melty Cup" rule is out, the new team is a secret.

OMFG everyone shut the fuck up.  Lets just have a good tourney.  Hellmonkey all though has some what of a point, its not really needed.  All people want is a good tourney, regardless of what teams enter and how they do we still want a good tourney.

Fuck all these rules bullshit as long as niggas show up to play it doesn't fucking matter.  Bring your 2 or 3 of whatever, everyone plays fucking different, and it doesn't matter for replay videos because all that shit will be hyped up the same because I'll be commentating those mothafukas. 

People need to do more of  stfu and practicing to win big fucking money, and less fucking talking.

Thumbs up soldier!

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Going to wish Dae a happy birthday,
Staying to play 3rd Strike,
Not even sure 'bout Melty anymore,
Hit the road Sunday night.

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: June 05, 2008, 03:46:23 PM »
Can we keep this in the "same character" poll thread?  I'm sure no one wants this thread cluttered with drama... :psyduck:

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: June 05, 2008, 02:32:43 PM »
I would like same characters and I've been asking nicely  ;D

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - "Same Character" Poll
« on: May 29, 2008, 04:05:42 PM »
i am probably going to sound like an asshole...

it looks to me you want to keep this same character rule so you can just team with Kijea instead of having to fight him like anyone else.

i am only saying it seems.. so dont take what i just said seriously...

oh don't worry about me.  kijea and i are teaming regardless.  i'll just be using an alt if the current rules stick around.  but i have no problem fighting him.  frankly, mech vs mech fights are quite enjoyable for me.  but i'd still like very much to use mech instead of an alt for a tournament of this magnitude.  we're teaming up because we're friends, not because i'm afraid to play him.  keep in mind, i'm one of only two people to have beaten him in a tournament.

still, i'll be the first to admit, my reason for supporting Same Character Teams is selfish.  even as friends, I have no intention of being outshadowed.  we both want to win and we both want to showcase our mech.  we decided the best way to do that was to team together.  but if the rules want to force one of use to dumb down our game, then so be it...  but my request and support of said request are not unreasonable.

If there's a ciel/random/random team vs ciel/random/random team vs a ciel/random/random team, we might see a Ciel vs Ciel matches that might be boring, but we see only few of it. If it's ciel/ciel/ciel team vs random/random/random team, we see ciel at least three times in one tournament round. To me at least, few mirror match is much better than sitting through watching a round where the entire team is just ciel again and again regardless of whether they win or lose. Percentage wise, ciels (I'm just using ciel for no reason) spread out in teams would create small chance of mirror matches as it's 3 on 3, while 3 ciels on a team would mean 100% matches of that team being consecutively ciel. I have no problem seeing any one character play. As with any fighting games, it's just boring if one has to see it repeatedly.

If this rule somehow discourages people who would have entered to not enter, then I'm all for not using this rule. However, I do not see how such a common rule inconveniences people to such an extent that they will not play at all. If you were gunning for the title with every possible tool that can be used that might have an effect, but if you were entering to have fun playing competitive matches while trying for the title, teaming up with someone else would not be such a problem.

In fact, there are tournaments called random tournaments. They're where people just show up and get randomly assigned a teammate to play with. It probably can't be used in the Melty Cup because of it's seriousness (cost & reputation), but it's a fun type of a tournament where the focus really just becomes having fun playing competitive matches.

You're thinking too hard.  Don't bother with percentages since there are no hard numbers to work with.  Just think of this logically.  Take an x number of Ciel players (poor Ciel).  Now spread them across an x number of teams.  Now almost every set has the potential to have Ciel mirrors.

Now, condense the x amount of Ciel players into anywhere between x/3 and x number of teams.  That means there are more teams that won't even have one Ciel so more chance that a set will occur where we don't have to see even one Ciel play much less a mirror.  Not that this is really of any concern.  This is a serious (at least I hope it is) tournament, not exhibition matches.  No one cares what the audience has to watch.  But for the sake of the audience, the Top Eight matches are supposed to comprise of top players.  Forcing players to spread out based on characters only increases the chance of fodder hitching a ride to the top and top players stuck with weaker teammates being eliminated.  THAT will be boring.

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 29, 2008, 11:13:01 AM »
With the removal of the "teams must be decided one month before Melty Cup" rule, nothing's set in stone for awhile.  there's still time to debate

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - "Same Character" Poll
« on: May 29, 2008, 11:05:18 AM »
No same character teams plz. Not only does it promote tier whoring (Team Ciel, Team Warc, etc) but it promotes dumb gimmicky teams in what's supposed to be a serious tournament.

Sorry Knight, I don't think you're looking far enough ahead (I used to think the same thing until I thought this out more thoroughly).  Unique Character Teams do not prevent tier whoring because all the tier whores are still going to play, just in different teams.  Now with a Ciel on every single team, we're much more likely to see every single Ciel play...the exact same way...with plenty of Ciel vs Ciel matches (BORING!).  Now consider if Duplicate Character Teams were allowed.  Now, all the tier whores would be teamed together.  Now we're much LESS likely to see Ciel mirrors as well as not having to see some play at all.

Now, I can no longer confidently claim that this tournament is going to turn out as serious as it was hyped up to be, but I would very much like it to be so.  I want to see a tournament in which everyone puts in their damned best effort to show some pride and take first place while they're at it.  Part of putting in your damned best effort includes organizing a team designed to optimize your chances of winning by recruiting the best players available (in the current stage of U.S. Melty's evolution, that implies seeing a lot of the same characters).  In the case of "gimmicky" teams, bare in mind that no one's going to pay $50 just to screw around.  If people believe that their under appreciated character deserves more attention and wants to show just how much damage he/she's capable of, let them.  You know that they're going to try their best.

On a final note, the hype of this tournament has been bleeding out and many are losing interest in entering at all.  There are plenty of players who don't expect to win but still want to enter to have fun (believe it or not, I'm already aware of some top CA players that consider themselves in this category) but are now deciding to avoid Melty Cup altogether in lieu of inimical rules.  Allowing a greater variety in possible team combinations by allowing Same Character Teams will coax some of these players back in.  While I'd prefer that everyone puts their best foot forward, I'm not going to oppose entries in which the team does not expect to win.  It just means more money for the winners.

That's my two cents.  This is based upon my opinion so I'm aware of the possibility that my reasoning may be flawed.  HOWEVER, I urge any arguments to the contrary to have more substance than just a few unsupported reasons as all support for Unique Character Teams thus far have been very weak.  I mean no disrespect.  My intention is strictly to convince, not offend, and I believe my arguments can be shared by both sides of this issue.

P.S.  LET'S BRING THE FUCKING HYPE BACK!!!

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 28, 2008, 06:07:28 PM »
i wanna make mech's ending a reality :fap:

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Miyako Arima / Re: Miyako Vid Tutorial
« on: May 28, 2008, 04:43:58 PM »
what the hell?  where'd the vid go?

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 27, 2008, 04:12:18 PM »

A team tournament that is trying to suck on SBO's stupid rule's cock while stating poor reasons why it tastes good like theres no hair in the way?

Fixed.

why do we keep doing this again?

PS: who actually wants this rule?  someone start a poll

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 27, 2008, 03:31:28 PM »
Lovely...gotta break out the alt now

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Melty Blood Auditorium / Re: Lobby Bot on #MBCaster
« on: May 26, 2008, 05:19:37 PM »
+heat everyday forever :fap:

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 25, 2008, 02:44:51 PM »
my ultimatum: until i see the "no same character" rule officially posted, i'm gunna say it's not in effect.

tom, i know you're insanely busy with school, a shitty job, and a futa girlfriend but it's really not cool leaving us in the dark.  it'd be really awesome if you could take a few seconds to confirm or deny the implementation of this rule.  'til then, mech/mech/warc still stands

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 25, 2008, 05:18:19 AM »
Tom told Kijea last night that same character teams aren't allowed, so..

wunderbar...
don't know why we love this rule so much, but it appears i'm not a mech player anymore

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 24, 2008, 11:25:35 AM »
This will take place at Evolution World 2008.

Rules:
  • Three-Man Teams
  • Locked Characters
  • 2/3 Games, Double-Elimination
  • $50 Entry Fee per player
  • 1st Place takes Pot, other prizes for top three to be decided (including Shirts, Custom Cases, etc). I'll be contributing $300 towards this. Winning Team also gets to hold the Melty Cup for one year, to be brought back the following year.
  • Teams must be decided one month prior to Evolution World 2008.

*Update March 17th 08*
Due to some issues using this format for the tournament, we have made it an open tournament. Although the formation of the team would be highly recommended to be regional, we've left it to where anyone can form a team and be welcomed. Don't get too comfortable with this, Arlieth and I (meaning Mizuki) still have to iron out some kinks. Be relieved or whatever, be still don't get too comfortable. If you have any questions, go ahead and PM Mizuki on SRK or Melty Bread, or catch him on #SRM on pyoko irc network.

i don't see "no same character teams" in here...that's really gunna suck if that changes :emo:

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Kohaku's Video Room / Re: CC vs. Kallen netplay pride match
« on: May 23, 2008, 11:41:40 PM »
Just you wait, I'll master dat 4f delay

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Needs moar deer and hoaaah


needs more beer and hos :teach:

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you're just approaching it the wrong way :-\

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 22, 2008, 10:23:47 PM »
Offical Melty Cup 2008 Team entry:

Kijea
Kryojenix
Nerina

*team name yet to be confirmed*

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 22, 2008, 01:36:11 PM »
I'm in ur evo.  Takkin ur moneyz.
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.....

ROFL

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Tournaments and Events / Re: 2008 Melty Cup - US Championships
« on: May 21, 2008, 08:50:20 PM »
HAHA!  there's no rule against same character teams...

y'all bitches know what that means >:D

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Tournament Results / Re: West Toast XII Singles Results
« on: May 21, 2008, 08:49:32 PM »
please

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Akiha's Tea Room / Re: I think we should support this
« on: May 21, 2008, 05:56:03 PM »
yea, i just looked at their site and $5 per hour is pretty bullshit

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Akiha's Tea Room / I think we should support this
« on: May 21, 2008, 05:44:26 PM »
Saw this posted by CaliPower on SRK.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=156629

Since it's a PC/XBOX360 facility, I think we should bring MBAC there sometime.

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