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: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Relunx August 05, 2008, 12:01:01 PM
With the recent MBAA loctest over the past few days, new information has been pouring in. The following information is taken from the MBAA thread:
 - new Mystic Eyes move: effect unknown, maybe a "dragon install" (short range)
 - teleport is now an attack
 - EX teleport is now not air unblockable
 - aerial teleport (alpha blade style)
 - C teleport isn't her EX, it teleports her backwards (she just finishes her animation then starts to fall)
 - new EX blood ring animation (1 big ring, but you got +frames)
 - crescent moon warc has 2 animations for 214c startup old/new
 - Old basic bnb works fine
 - j2C laugh spin same

Well, gladly to say, yet there's is no nerfs about Warc. She can still do her old bnb. They modifyed her teleport, which now is an attack, yay, op must block or he/she get hurt. Another ugrade is she can perform teleport in air, which is a great escape/zoning material. Also her 623C is now not an EX tele, it teleports Warc backwards O_o.
Sadly her EX tele isn't air unblockable anymore...

About the new Mystic Eyes/Marble Phantasm thing. Yet nobody know what it does, but some rumor says it's a "dragon install" move that boost her speed/atk. Also it has an EX version too. WE better wait to see what it does. I'm so curious.

She now got 2 animation while performing her EX blood rings. Her new version's input is: 63214C and she retains her old one: 214C. Her new EX BR looks promising, it's a huge 1 blood ring (about 7 hits), BUT you got +frames, A LOT. Now Warc got a good pressure for sure.

Last but not least: she retains HER über laugh j2C.

Relunx
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: sumbody August 05, 2008, 10:11:06 PM
So that would mean no changes to her basic BNB. What about the fancy blood wall loops?

Generally that would mean little changes to her playstyle, still focusing much on air blood rings + jB.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: BurstOfAnger August 07, 2008, 02:52:19 AM
Remember, it depends on the style you use now. F-Warc may have a hell lotta new moves.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi August 07, 2008, 02:16:17 PM
C-warc almost the same as VER.B2

 air combo(such as JBC JABC -throw)takes more damage
 

I believe everyone's FM has new move to replace.


see if anyone wanna to translate this :psyduck:

ハーフムーン
・システム
ゲージMAX200%
ゲージがMAXになるとモーション無しで自動開放(ヒート状態へ)
ブラッドヒート無し
ヒート時にダメージで多分自動サイク(空中地上問わずだったキガスル)
シールド成立で自動で単発浮かせ攻撃(補正高)

・基本性能
今までのワルクと変わらない印象
今までの空コン可能(ダメージ2700前後)
623に攻撃判定が付く
  当てると浮く
  ガードさせると若干不利(確定あるかは不明)
その他不明



クレッセントムーン
・システム
今までと同じ感覚で使えるので癖が無い

・基本性能
今までのワルクと変わらない印象
今までの空コン可能(ダメージ2700前後)
空投げの叩き付け後の硬直っていうか浮いてる時間が増加。
 相手が起き上がり初めてもまだ浮いてた気がする
離れる距離増加。5B届くか届かないか喰らい
 空投げ後多分フリ
端で投げるときに中央に向かうようにしないと下手したら大惨事になると思う

既存技への変更は無し(硬直とかはしらん)

空中214
・新技
421 後ろへワープ
 Aその場に出現、B,Cと下がる距離が増える
 終わり際を623各種でキャンセル可能
消えてる間しか無敵が無い

63214 C(ゲージ150%)
 EXイカリングを一発のみ出す
確か8HIT
HITorガード中にワルクが行動可能
HIT時は横吹っ飛び
壁バウンド時の受身不能時間は短め

6C
 ハイキックのようなモーションで立ちCの先端くらいまで移動
 チェーンから出せる
 ヒット時はjc、必殺技キャンセル可能(リバビは未確認)
 発生はシオンの6Bくらい下手したらそれより速い
 中 段


フルムーン
・システム
諸々の理由で癖が強い
リバビが無い
同一攻撃レベルのキャンセルもムリ(例:2B>5Bムリ)
単発火力が高い(気がする)
一部技変更
通常技も一部どころじゃないほど変更
ABCでゲージ溜め。MAX時ABCで開放(ブラッドヒート)
なのでMAX時以外は開放不可
 ゲージ溜めは時間に比例して速度増加
ってか何時溜めるんだよ
殴ってもゲージ溜まる

・基本性能
リーチが全体的に短くなる

多分長くなるんで分割

続・フルムーン
見難いかもしれん
・基本性能
地上
5A 顔面くらいの高さを叩く。打点高い。発生がAの発生とは思えん。遅い。確認してないが絶対しゃがみに当たらない。空連打キャンセル不可。HIT連打は未確認。……対空?
5B モーション同じ。ヒット時の挙動もきっと同じ。前進距離縮んだ?。一段階BE無いくさい。BE中段はある
5C モーション同じ。性能もきっと同じ。ヒット時の挙動は同じ。BEのガー不あり
2A 遅い。リーチ短い(衝撃は無いバージョンみたいな)。連打キャンセル不可。HITキャンセルは限定的に可能(同一レベルキャンセル不可適用外)。けど5Aは無理な!
2B モーション同じ。発生同じくらい。スライディングになった(前進する)。多分全キャラフルムーン時の共通差込技なのかも)。HIT時ダウン
2C 立ちCをしゃがんで出してるようなモーション。ちょ、5A2Aより早くね?。ダウンしない。空当てさせてもあんま浮かない
3C 今までと同一の性能っぽい。ちょっと発生早くなったかも。キャンセル不可
6C 未確認、あって欲しい

空中
A 肘で攻撃。リーチ半端なく短い
B 叩き付けるような攻撃。でも属性は叩き付けじゃない。JAと同等のリーチ
C シエルのJCのようなモーション。発生遅い
2C アハハハh(ry。JCからキャンセル不可(JCと同一の攻撃レベルっぽい)。アーマー未確認

コンボ火力高い
確認済みコンボ
2A>2B>2C>JB>JC>jc>JB>JC>投げ で4000近く

空対空性能大幅弱体化(今までの立ち回りは無理)



・コマンド技
変更なし
214 各種
623 各種
空中214 各種

変更技
236A
 空中を引き裂くようなモーション
血が奇跡を描くようなエフェクト
 お互い地上にいる場合は画面上まで判定出るくらい
 前方への判定は少ない(約1キャラ分)
 発生は既存の236Bとどっこい
3HIT

236B
 アルクの3連撃の3発目の中段版のモーション
 中段ではない
 判定は画面半分くらい
 発生は既存の236Bとどっこい
 3HIT

236C(EX)
 236AのEX版
 切り返しに使えるか未確認
 HIT数忘れた

236Aから236Bに
236Bから236Cにそれぞれ発生可能
単発も可
236Aから236C出そうとしてもゲージが合っても強制的に236Bが発動するっぽい
フルヒットさせてダメージ約2500

新技
421 各種 クレッセントと同じ

63214 C(ゲージ150%)
 ひどい表現だがバンザイから両手を交差させるように突進
 いあ、実際ダサくは無いよ?
 突進距離は623Aくらい?も少し短いかも
 1HIT
 HIT時に速攻ダウン
 空中であてても速攻ダウン(浮いたりしない)
 ダメージ約1000(目測)
 無敵未確認
 え、これだけ?
 なんか追加がありそうな無さそうな。。。
 ガードさせると大幅有利
完全無敵じゃないとどうしようもない気ががが
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: asdfqwer August 27, 2008, 01:21:33 PM
"dragon install" move that boost her speed/atk.

 :o
Yay
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: AkiraTheMastodon August 27, 2008, 02:33:57 PM
lol
warc has teleports that go behind now?  :slowpoke:
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Curbeh September 13, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHQ-EKNFB4&feature=user

C-Warc seems interesting...
...loving the stage music lol
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: asdfqwer September 15, 2008, 02:09:54 PM
Few things I thought after watching the video:

-
Back teleport is freakin sweet.

-
I wonder how useful those reppukens will be.
It has about the same startup time as bloodrings but is low on ground and travels really fast, so just looking at the video it seems useless.

-
5(b) is two hits?

-
Reppuken
Wallslaming ex
Glowing red eye
= Rugal 
:psyduck:
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: ehrik September 30, 2008, 11:47:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48gJUFo70I

Crescent players will love this. 214c gives crazy frame ad.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Lord Knight September 30, 2008, 02:16:50 PM
Warc stuffz I've gleaned about WarcC (probably overlaps with okuhoshi's stuff, except I can't read it):

She has a silly kick, it's 6C. It can be charged as well, it is VERY fast looking. It is very strong looking in staggers, you can delay for a long time until the next attack, longer than her 5B. It also advances her forward.

63214C, GEASS RING. It costs 150 meter and it's fucking dumb (good for us!). Goes SUPER high, super frame adv, super fast. Best part is at max, we can spam it like crazy. Also, you can force mixups offa this (obviously).

Combos I've seen so far:

2A 5B 6C 2B 2C 5C jump jBC dj jBC j2C

2A 5B 2B 6C 2C 5C jump jBC dj jBC Airthrow (probably the BNB).

Random hit confirms off blood rings using 6C as a starter rather than 5B. It'll probably be something like 5A 6C air combo, who knows. More as Leo gets to play.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Ice Queen Lotus September 30, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
I'll translate the stuff at some point, but I'm a) at work and b) lazy. :V
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Lord Knight September 30, 2008, 02:52:35 PM
Team Let's Research Melty At Work: currently 2 members. :slowpoke:
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi September 30, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
best clip of warc so far
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ISMkUa4mtYE

he's playing kind of LEO style
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Lord Knight October 01, 2008, 05:29:56 AM
Geass ring combos into itself. :O

Also it looks like if you get random corner hit, 2B 2C Geass Ring 236A aircombo works.

This is becoming a thread just for my notes lol
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Curbeh October 01, 2008, 11:12:46 AM
C-Warc:
Looks like jC Air bnb starters are intact for C-warc
I saw a couple on a vid the other day...

Okay, I definitly saw the one huge ring and the double EX rings in the same round of a match... different situations or commands? Oh different command
That ring is crazy good. Everything that LK said and full screen active frames.

Charge kick takes a huuuuge chunck out of the gaurd bar.
:: This + THE BIG O (my new code name for warc's big ass ring... its that good) = amazing gaurd crush strings appearantly

Reverse Teleport cancels into EX teleport (seemingly anywhere in the middle of it)
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 01, 2008, 11:59:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48gJUFo70I

Crescent players will love this. 214c gives crazy frame ad.

L...Leo?!
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Curbeh October 01, 2008, 12:29:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y48gJUFo70I

Crescent players will love this. 214c gives crazy frame ad.

L...Leo?!

Very possible, I want to see him try F Warc though...
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Lord Knight October 01, 2008, 08:56:40 PM
: Kirby-LAME
This + THE BIG O (my new code name for warc's big ass ring... its that good) = amazing gaurd crush strings appearantly

KIRBY!

We've established that 63214C is now GEASS RING.

:( :( :(  >:( >:( >:(
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Curbeh October 02, 2008, 06:12:14 AM
~__~ She does look like she about to cast geass on someone but... THE BIG O sounds cooler...
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 02, 2008, 07:19:23 AM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2n9ex3n.png)
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Ice Queen Lotus October 02, 2008, 07:20:25 AM
God she looks like some '80s disaster. :emo:
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Curbeh October 03, 2008, 10:33:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtuWqeUMkM&feature=related

Good Footage
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: asdfqwer October 06, 2008, 07:01:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtuWqeUMkM&feature=related

Good Footage

5300+ damage for a ground combo?  :toot:
Either that or Roa's defense equals V-Akiha's
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Rei October 11, 2008, 12:39:44 AM
Some new CRedArc footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_xw8dXmp8
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 11, 2008, 10:09:46 AM
i wonder if she has 623EX on air, too
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 11, 2008, 10:46:54 AM
(http://i35.tinypic.com/bjg64m.jpg)

EX-inage...wrong post again! whar are u guys thinking :blah:








I was hoping  something like this ....

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2qlaeiw.jpg)
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 18, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_0f4aNbVZJA

FM is actually better than what i expected :D
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: AkiraTheMastodon October 18, 2008, 09:13:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtuWqeUMkM&feature=related

Good Footage

5300+ damage for a ground combo?  :toot:
Either that or Roa's defense equals V-Akiha's
yeah, roa's defense is pretty bad, i think it's around maybe kohaku's or so? maybe a bit worse?
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: sumbody October 18, 2008, 10:18:34 AM
I think H-Warc has a better BNB as opposed to many using the old BNB. Maybe something like H-Aoko's, where she throws that ground projectile > relaunch to air combo. Haven't seen any H-Warc actually being played differently, most adopt the C-Warc style.

Yeah, FM is cool. In fact, most FMs are cool but not many are actually using them.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Chie Satonaka October 18, 2008, 10:21:58 AM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_0f4aNbVZJA

FM is actually better than what i expected :D

Looks like I have an alt to play now :V
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: TheKneeOfJustice October 18, 2008, 10:33:23 AM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_0f4aNbVZJA

FM is actually better than what i expected :D

That block string was brutal. I think all the Warcs look decent, if not really good.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: Chie Satonaka October 18, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_0f4aNbVZJA

FM is actually better than what i expected :D

That block string was brutal. I think all the Warcs look decent, if not really good.

That blockstring made me cum in my pants. About the Warc's in general cWarc looks like an exact copy of her Ver.B2 counterpart except better offense and Code Gayass ring and her 6C is just...omg retarded. hWarc I don't really remember anything special about her so *shrug*. fWarc just looks like "I'm gonna rape ya, bitch. Oh yes it is time, you can not run. I LIKE YO RAINCOAT BITCH!" good.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: TheKneeOfJustice October 18, 2008, 11:03:26 AM
Does anybody know what the deal is with her full screen attack? She crosses her arms and her eyes flair, and it looks like the screen shakes with a tremor. I can't remember what videos I've exactly seen it in.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: okuhoshi October 18, 2008, 11:18:39 AM
Shinso Beam is still a secret :mystery:
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: TheKneeOfJustice October 18, 2008, 12:14:07 PM
More warc footage:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=lO8__YrX2hc
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=1g0DwPdfI7o
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_vvxsdV88

There's more, but you can just go to geesendou's channel. A lot of good Warc vidoes got uploaded today.
: Re: Actress Again Warc Discussion/Speculation Thread
: sumbody October 18, 2008, 12:31:04 PM
IIRC, in one of the SEGA showcase vids, one of the Warc's (I think its H-Warc) had the teleport move buffed. It was an attack itself and could actually be a launcher. So a BNB could go like teleport > air combo. I was thinking H-Warc could do something like 2A 5B 5C 6AAA (Insert cool stuff) Air combo. Either a 236A to launch, or a teleport attack to launch. I"m just speculating though since most of the Half-Moons I have seen seem to have their BNBs revolve around 6AAA.