When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?

Author Topic: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!  (Read 28936 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Rei

  • America's Worst Ryougi
  • Magus
  • *****
  • Posts: 1161
  • Magic Circuits: 309
  • <3
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 09:13:18 AM »
<eirei> calm down guys, nanaya matchups are...
<eirei> ...nanaya business

 :slowpoke:
<@sibladeko> lack of close buttons is poverty
<@sibladeko> means the police can't use secret elevator codes to save us
<Darcius> poor people not worth savin
<@SilentShinobi> the double down is the black man's lethal kryptonite

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 09:15:31 AM »
<eirei> calm down guys, nanaya matchups are...
<eirei> ...nanaya business

 :slowpoke:


zzzzz, you guys actually believe I think Nanaya mirrors are 6-4

 :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo: :laffo:
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline Benny1

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 403
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Christmas Akiha just got sexier!
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2012, 09:32:26 AM »
Comboooos, since I'm having trouble finding any.  Let me know if anything is wrong here.

C-Nanaya

2A 5C 2C 2B 5B j.BC ad.A dj.BC AT
2A 2B 5C 2C 5BB 22C 236C 2C 214A (oki with meter)
Gold AT 2C 214B dash 2B 5C 623BB

H-Nanaya

2A 5B 2B 5C 2C 214A 5AC j.BC dj.BC AT
2A 5B 2B 5C 2A 236A 5AC j.C dj.BC AT
Gold AT 2C 5C j.BC dj.BC AT

F-Nanaya

2A 5B 2B 2C 623BB dj.22 623BB sdj.BC AT
2A 5B 2B 2C 623BB j.BC AT
2A 5B 2B 5C 236Bx3
Gold AT dash 2C 214B dash 2C 214A

Note for Gold AT I typically do oki as opposed to damage, I feel it's the better choice.  F-Nanaya has more combos that I don't know, and I don't know more of H-Nanaya's stuff.
C-Wara main, H-Warc/F-Sion alt.

Offline yui

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 43
  • Magic Circuits: 1
  • crescent moon crunch
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2012, 11:47:40 AM »
Comboooos, since I'm having trouble finding any.  Let me know if anything is wrong here.

C-Nanaya

2A 5C 2C 2B 5B j.BC ad.A dj.BC AT
2A 2B 5C 2C 5BB 22C 236C 2C 214A (oki with meter)
Gold AT 2C 214B dash 2B 5C 623BB

you're missing some important ones. jump cancellable 214b is kinda important.
C Nana in the corner gets things like
2a 2b 5c 214b j.22 2c 2b 5b 236c 2c 214a for okizeme using meter

2a 2b 5c 214b j.22 214b(close version) 2c 214a for the same without using meterbut getting less damage.


those are just examples though. nanaya combos get pretty free form. you can link 2a 5b 236c or 2a 236a>236c after 623c in the corner and midscreen. the 214b (close) into the dash 2a link combo is pretty free and is still cool as shit. there's also a lot of really cool character specific stuff you can do. combos are pretty fun with the character. you can just piece them together by taking parts of basic bnbs and extending a combo with that based on positioning on the screen and the amount of resources you have /are willing to burn.

"Who do you main in MB?"
"Claw Iori"

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2012, 04:02:32 PM »
Can someone hook me up with a 623C loop combo?
And any tips on the 2A after the 623C?

Offline Sashi

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 480
  • Magic Circuits: 9
  • Scene Killer~
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2012, 04:45:02 PM »
I think it's something like 623C 2A5BB22C air combo or 623C 2A214B 2A5BB22C air combo depending on who you're hitting. I'm pretty sure the second one doesn't work on Ryougi and a few others, 'cause Ryougi is a scumbag.

EDIT: Might be wrong 'cause I don't play Nanaya, but it's what I see people do.

EDIT: It's in the old PS2 wiki.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2012, 04:53:11 PM by Sacchin 22A »
Clmelty: Rokumoe!

Offline abitofBaileys

  • zzz
  • Germaniac
  • *****
  • Posts: 2036
  • Magic Circuits: 159
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2012, 10:23:14 AM »
I still find it confusing that the Reverse Beat timing of H-Nanaya's 5C into 6AAA influences the damage output.

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2012, 10:53:21 AM »
What do you guys do post hard knockdown with 214A?

I personally usually just either:
sj fastfall
sj backdash fastfall
or sj j jc

is there anything important im missing?

Offline fiendmaw

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 343
  • Magic Circuits: 38
  • Dozo~
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 10:56:53 AM »
Neco-Arc    1.400    0.678    1.031    0.815    12500
Nanaya    1.000    0.968    0.890    0.815    12493
Discuss.
Best Nanaya in YouTube.

Offline Sashi

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 480
  • Magic Circuits: 9
  • Scene Killer~
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2012, 11:26:17 AM »
Get buffed in 1.07. Complain anyways.
Clmelty: Rokumoe!

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2012, 07:26:10 PM »
What are the optimal/good BnBs for C Nanaya?

After like 30 mins in training mode i have...
Damage done on V-Sion

BnB: 2B 2C 5C jBC jBC AT = 3723

BnB 2: 2B 5C 2C 214B (close) dash 2A 5C jBC jBC AT = 4569
- Easier near corners, but not in corner.

BnB 2 Variant: 2B 5C 2C 214B (close) dash 2A 5BB 22C jBC jBC AT = 4732
- Easier near corners, but not in corner.

BnB 3: 2B 5C 2C 5BB 22C jBC jBC AT = 4554

I feel that the 2nd one is starting to get on the right track. And i dislike 22C resets so...
« Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 07:28:17 PM by Epilogue »

Offline Sashi

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 480
  • Magic Circuits: 9
  • Scene Killer~
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2012, 08:54:49 PM »
I use the 2B5C2C214B2A5Cj.BCj.BC AT as a punish combo. Most of the time, though, they're too far that 2C would whiff or be too slow, so I just do 2B5C214B, then adding stuff depending on how we're positioned. But then, I'm a terrible Cana.
Clmelty: Rokumoe!

Offline Espard

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 65
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2012, 09:39:44 PM »
Technically the most "optimal" in damage (without meter) is
5b5c2c2b jbc jbc AT 4962 Damage, but you need to be so extremely close to enemies to do that. 
If you like Nanaya's cross up/mix up games you will want to incorporate hard knock downs (2c and 214a) into your combos.  This can be done through combos like

2b5c2c 214a       2590 Damage
2b5c 214b jump cancel j22 2c 214a          2731 Damage (near corner but not close enough to enemy for 214b to knock enemy up).

Also maybe I'm just a noob but why 22c if you get the superjump timing after 5bb, and learn to combo off that?  Maybe I'm just to used to it so I don't do 22c and I should.

(All values are on V. Sion) Your values seem a bit lower than they should be when I tested them myself.

Also adding meter to your combos like 623c in corner can net some extra damage for 100 meter.  Not always useful but if it was the difference between a killing blow, then it might be worth the investment.

And just putting this out there (corner) Blood Heat 5b5c2c2b 41236c  = 6945 Damage  :teach:
« Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 09:50:01 PM by Espard »

Offline Sashi

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 480
  • Magic Circuits: 9
  • Scene Killer~
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2012, 10:36:27 PM »
22C makes it easier to connect the rest of the combo and makes them lower so you land faster and get better oki. At least, I'm assuming that's why.

EDIT: In corners, you can just j.22 214B 2C 214A after whatever into 214B for actual oki and more than a sliver of damage.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 10:42:36 PM by Sacchin 22A »
Clmelty: Rokumoe!

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2012, 10:38:42 PM »
Most damaging 'practical' punisher:
5B 5C [delay, close as possible] 214B run through, combo after. If near corner, 5B 5C pickup.

That requires absolutely no hitconfirm and requires point blank. So the most practical variant is:
5B 5C 2B 2C 214B run through, combo after
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2012, 02:35:11 AM »
22C makes it so your air combo after pretty much always hits, if you just sj your 2nd jC tends to miss.. It also let's 236C combos do more damage I think.

Roku, is it practical to start with 5B? I feel like the only thing I would hit with that is a ciel who missed ex hiero...

Also any tips for executing the wall slam combo?
2B 5C 214b 9 22 2C 5BB 22C jBC jBC AT
This is the one I tried to no avail. Any easier variants without making the combo no longer worthwhile? The only thing I could think of is adding 214A after the fastfall 2C.

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2012, 03:06:00 AM »
Roku, is it practical to start with 5B? I feel like the only thing I would hit with that is a ciel who missed ex hiero...

I confirm this off blockstrings sometimes, all you need to do is drop 2A confirms in favor of confirming with 5B 5C

Also any tips for executing the wall slam combo?
2B 5C 214b 9 22 2C 5BB 22C jBC jBC AT
This is the one I tried to no avail. Any easier variants without making the combo no longer worthwhile? The only thing I could think of is adding 214A after the fastfall 2C.

Use 292 to fastfall, ot just 92222222 it's okay to mash it, I know for sure I do. As soon as I land I just hold down and mash 2C sometimes too. All that matters if that you're getting it reliably
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2012, 04:45:06 AM »
Hey guys I know I've said this multiple times already but I'm legit starting a Nanaya guide right at this moment, can really use some good video editing software and advice of that sort. Currently trying to make this guide without getting too complicated over small details
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2012, 08:17:56 AM »
Is 5B fast enough? and will it hit crouchers?

Also, if you have a mac, Final Cut is really easy to use.

Offline Cristu

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 529
  • Magic Circuits: 23
  • Melty Blood > $
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2012, 08:33:46 AM »
Some combos people are using for midscreen:

Oki (100%)
2A 5B 2B 5C 2C *delay* 214B *changes sides* dash 2A 5BB 236C 2C 214A
+- 4700 on v.sion

Damage (0%)
2A 5B 2B 5C 2C *delay* 214B *changes sides* dash 2A 5BB 22C j. aircombo
+- 5000 on v.sion

If you cut the 2A damage goes up around 300
A little bit of console ain't too bad.

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2012, 08:43:04 AM »
Is 5B fast enough? and will it hit crouchers?

Also, if you have a mac, Final Cut is really easy to use.

It'll hit crouchers, don't know what you mean by fast enough though
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline TheMaster_Rahl

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 641
  • Magic Circuits: 41
  • NC Texas Tim
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2012, 10:05:41 AM »
Hey guys I know I've said this multiple times already but I'm legit starting a Nanaya guide right at this moment, can really use some good video editing software and advice of that sort. Currently trying to make this guide without getting too complicated over small details
I don't have time to right now, but later today I can tell you what I use to make my videos.

Offline Epilogue

  • Jr. Spellcaster
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Magic Circuits: 0
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2012, 10:19:54 AM »
Oh sorry I miss read that. Yeah I guess I'll just change my muscle memory, I've been confirming 2A anyway.

Offline Rokunaya

  • Magus Candidate
  • ****
  • Posts: 954
  • Magic Circuits: 16
  • Keepin' it alive
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2012, 11:15:08 AM »
I don't have time to right now, but later today I can tell you what I use to make my videos.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Oh sorry I miss read that. Yeah I guess I'll just change my muscle memory, I've been confirming 2A anyway.

You need to mix in 2B/5B starters to stop people from mashing shield on you anyway, and both give more damage.
clmelty: great roku! lol / I like roku lol
clmelty: I want to make CL like roku team
clmelty: Roku is best popular player in the meltyworld

Offline TheMaster_Rahl

  • Spellcaster
  • ***
  • Posts: 641
  • Magic Circuits: 41
  • NC Texas Tim
    • View Profile
Re: Nanaya MBAACC 1.07 Discussion Thread!
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2012, 05:51:39 PM »
I don't have time to right now, but later today I can tell you what I use to make my videos.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
I was just about to post it in here, But I figured I'd move it over to my recordings thread here:
http://www.meltybread.com/forums/kohaku%27s-video-room/texastim%27s-mbaa-recordings/

So I don't clutter up this thread with it.

-TexasTim-