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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 03:30:38 PM »
I'm so sad that F-Nanaya is apparently the lowest tier of all the Nanayas. He looks so goddamn fun to play. Not that the tier placement is going to stop me from playing him, but it does mean I'll probably main C and play F for (dive)kicks. I guess he's lower tier because of damage output and the whole reverse beat thing, as well as not being able to end blockstrings with 236A.

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 10:28:50 PM »
I'm so sad that F-Nanaya is apparently the lowest tier of all the Nanayas. He looks so goddamn fun to play. Not that the tier placement is going to stop me from playing him, but it does mean I'll probably main C and play F for (dive)kicks. I guess he's lower tier because of damage output and the whole reverse beat thing, as well as not being able to end blockstrings with 236A.

Same, Tiers won't stop me from playing him too. F looks sick, and the damage isn't bad if you dig the 623a/b combos lol. He's probably the lowest due to no reverse beat thing, and F having no EX-Shield and low guard meter unlike half who can compensate for the lack of EX-Shielding. But for me, The regen in F seems more desirable for me with the insta regen thing i've been seeing. The dive kicks seem really useful too, the only problem I see with F-Nanaya is, like you said can't end block strings with 236a. other than that he's a beast in terms of pressure atleast imo. but i can't really say much since i suck  :psyduck:

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 11:14:11 PM »
Yay, WARUI NE...!
I'm so sad that F-Nanaya is apparently the lowest tier of all the Nanayas.
o rly? From MBAA Tiers* thread:
Nanaya C > F > H

I guess he's lower tier because of damage output and the whole reverse beat thing, as well as not being able to end blockstrings with 236A.
Oh man there's so much emphasis on C-Nanaya's 236A, like the F-Tohno comparison, what a crappy trademark IMO.  I don't see why he needs to end blockstrings in boring* 236A... in any style.  H can't do so with the same benefits either, and for it to be a replacement for F's rekka would be terrible.  If anything that Nanaya seems to have worked up to be his trademark, is that his 'stupid obvious shit' will always* work.

F-Nanaya made his mark to be my main after watching a few Nico videos with him beasting and two messages of "SHIELD THAT SHIT" tickered across the screen. :mystery:

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 12:16:02 AM »

o rly? From MBAA Tiers* thread:
Nanaya C > F > H

S: H-VSion C-Mecha H/C-Shiki F-Nero H-Kohaku F-Miyako
A+: C-Nanaya C-Warc
A: F/C-Kouma C/H-Nero C/F-Kohaku F-Mecha
A-: F-Maids C/H-Miyako F-Warc F-WRen H-Nanaya C-Ciel C-Aoko F-Arcueid F-VAkiha H-Roa C-Satsuki F-Shiki H/F-Sion C-Hisui
B+: C/H/F-Akiha C/H-Maids H/F-Ries F/C-VSion H-VAkiha F-Nanaya
B: H-Warc H-Hisui C/F-Wara H/C-Arcueid F/H-Ciel H-Mecha C-Sion H-Kouma C/H-WRen F-Aoko
B-: H-Wara H/F-Ren C-Ries F-Roa H-Satsuki F-Hisui H-Aoko C-VAkiha
C+: F-Satsuki C-Ren C-Roa

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2009, 02:07:35 AM »
The lists were made by different people anyway right, says further on?  The point that while you disregard tier lists, brought up only that specific one to judge F-Nanaya and had intriguing reasons... with apparently anyway.  But damn, this the Warui thread.  More support/faith/positive thoughts(?) for the lolicon under a full moon.  :V
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2009, 02:55:54 AM »
The lists were made by different people anyway right, says further on?  The point that while you disregard tier lists, brought up only that specific one to judge F-Nanaya and had intriguing reasons... with apparently anyway.  But damn, this the Warui thread.  More support/faith/positive thoughts(?) for the lolicon under a full moon.  :V
Well, He's a nice guy. He tries his best not to hurt girls and if he does so, He takes them home xD
Also, I think He wasn't really being negative about nanaya. He's just complaining why F is the lowest in the japan tier list(?)
Also if you ask me, The only reason F-Nanaya is abit low on the tier list was because F-Nanaya wasn't really explored that much before that list came around and C-Nanaya, a version that's really familiar to the nanaya players was a better choice to start off since you'll know pretty much what you're doing. Which leads to them finding out more stuff about him. Imo F-Nanaya is underrated for now because his damage is abit lower. But he seems to be abit faster though. Also his normal combos seems easier to perform than his crescent counterpart except probably for the double 623a/b? Well whatever part of the tier list he ends up in, even if it's bottom tier, I'll still main him since he suits my playstyle and from what i'm seeing i'll be going for Full Moon even though tier list says he's the lesser nanaya, which I really don't believe. I still think F>C, Can't comment much about H, barely see any vids with H-Nanaya.

Well based on the vids i've seen :
C: Pros : Free 5k combos, Good block strings, Above average speed, needs the least meter, and least changes from MBAC.
Cons: Everybody knows him too much =/
F: Pros : 2-4k combos But normally puts you in a better position to keep up the punishment, Pressure char, Repetetive yet REALLY HARD to get out of his block strings, Dive Kick,Fast[feel free to correct me, he seems faster than Cnanaya]
Cons : Low damage
H: Pros : mostly like crescent but has a ground overhead that people seem to forget about.
Cons : No Clue D; Haven't seen too much Half moon in action

And well as for HCO, Tier list doesn't really prove anything. I've seen A-Tier Charas lose to C-Tiers =/
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2009, 03:22:28 AM »
H has straightforward damage due to ending aerial portion of combo with j.214C
F has damage that will come from mixups/high low game

F CAN opt to do bnbs with 623BB for extra damage, but you won't get as good placement for your oki where if you ended it with a rekka for less damage, but better placement
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2009, 09:15:43 AM »
Tier list means something. Assuming equal skill, a character in a higher tier will win more often than a character in a lower tier. That means something, not necessarily much.

I don't consider F Nanaya low. He's one of the few characters that has players in every style. And yes, the tier lists are always debated on between people in the Japanese community all the time. Some people split up Akiha styles, some don't. A lot of people put Wara on the high end of characters, the one that was posted puts him on the low end. Just a quote from one list on the JP BBS doesn't give an idea of what everyone is thinking.

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2009, 10:12:32 AM »
Dive kick is hard to shield, because the angle of J2A/B/C is different, it can go front/back, but you can HEAT :V
Rekka will be complete if it ends by 24s/22s (talk about dreams... :psyduck:



Nanaya is not bad himself, but he just helpless to compare with others

He does not has very good range air attacks. I found hard to do a thing while facing brooms, some crazy women's claws, Akiha sexy legs  :emo:

He has low damage output. Yes, JC bahabahabha 5k+ damage.....but why assume ppl have to eat your slow JC. You can bet a air JC counter..but mostly you will get a counter yourself instead.  (No mention Sacchi, Sion, Kouma, Akiha, does horror damages and follow sick okizeme afterward :emo: 

Because his 2a does not hit low, his mixups is weaker than others.  It's good that he has tech killer 2c to force ppl lie down, and do okizemes, but they don't work often.  (Crescent)

Obove is all imo and personal experience. I'm not pro.. so, dont take my crap seriously  :psyduck:

I love lolicon nanaya, and I'll still play him in AA, no matter how ecole made all other characters sick like Sions.. Akihas...Hisuis :blah:

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2009, 02:56:40 PM »
btw okuhoshi
can I add those vids to the nanaya mbaa thread? lol

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2009, 03:18:13 PM »
My pleasure =)

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2009, 07:52:50 PM »
Dive kick is hard to shield, because the angle of J2A/B/C is different, it can go front/back, but you can HEAT :V
Rekka will be complete if it ends by 24s/22s (talk about dreams... :psyduck:



Nanaya is not bad himself, but he just helpless to compare with others

He does not has very good range air attacks. I found hard to do a thing while facing brooms, some crazy women's claws, Akiha sexy legs  :emo:

He has low damage output. Yes, JC bahabahabha 5k+ damage.....but why assume ppl have to eat your slow JC. You can bet a air JC counter..but mostly you will get a counter yourself instead.  (No mention Sacchi, Sion, Kouma, Akiha, does horror damages and follow sick okizeme afterward :emo: 

Because his 2a does not hit low, his mixups is weaker than others.  It's good that he has tech killer 2c to force ppl lie down, and do okizemes, but they don't work often.  (Crescent)

Obove is all imo and personal experience. I'm not pro.. so, dont take my crap seriously  :psyduck:

I love lolicon nanaya, and I'll still play him in AA, no matter how ecole made all other characters sick like Sions.. Akihas...Hisuis :blah:



having a 2a that doesn't hit low kinda fails D; . I hated this since MBAC times =/ Even if i fastfall, 2a doesn't work  most times cause some people love to hold block and thus always get blocked. But that's me and I suck  :psyduck:

though doesn't F look bad ass? His specials look nice xD

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2009, 08:52:50 PM »
IIRC Full Nanaya's 2A hits low.

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2009, 10:27:31 PM »
IIRC Full Nanaya's 2A hits low.
I know and okuhoshi meant Crescent, Not in general.

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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2009, 07:14:36 PM »
A recent Half clip  :psyduck:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7326811

Doesn't that show H-Nanaya's 2A hits low?
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2009, 01:19:10 AM »
yes
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2009, 02:48:43 AM »
Now I know which Moon to main.
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2009, 11:00:39 AM »
6f 2a, good luck
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2009, 01:50:27 AM »
So what exactly is the differences between F-Nanaya's A and B rekkas? All I found is that B rekka has more forward momentum so it kind of has further range.
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 10:26:13 PM »
that's it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2009, 01:21:42 AM »
What about recovery? I'm not sure but I kinda feel that A rekka has less recovery. Can anyone confirm?
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 05:24:14 AM »
I made a vid showing some F-Nanaya stuff. First ever attempt at making a video like this so please bear with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhHKnV_Cu50
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Re: WARUINE THREAD
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 06:58:33 PM »
That DP to j.22 fall to DP again looks a lil rough to do but hey its seems reasonable to do if have the execution for it.
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