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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2010, 06:23:07 AM »
Don't forget to mention H-Ryougi's 22C is 1 frame startup  :blah:

C-Moons unblockables are really bad imo because at least half of them seem to have the exact same startup. Even so, held shield into punish beats them for free as long as you aren't falling asleep.
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2010, 07:44:48 AM »
I STILL FIND THE LACK OF INTEREST IN F-RYOUGI SAD.
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #102 on: November 13, 2010, 09:09:00 AM »
H Ryougi's 22C is really good.  Completely agree.  Saved my life a few times.

@Rowanism Dude, I play all Ryougi styles, including F.  I just wish I could play her in MBAACC.  Why don't you post some stuff as to why you like full so much?  Change some opinions, so to speak!
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #103 on: November 13, 2010, 09:21:43 AM »
Full is definitely legit. I'd have to put some major practice into learning it though.

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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #104 on: November 13, 2010, 09:37:30 AM »
My F-Ryougi opinion:

Pro:

- The biggest argument about F-Ryougi is her ability to do awesome combos which are actually doable in matches with and without her knife, unlike most other F-characters imo.
- Rekkas are an easy way to react to a shield, and being pretty safe.
- j.B - although it gets nerfed in MBAACC. Still going to be very useful/annoying.
- Her AAD.
- Awesome dash, it's fast, it's long and doing a 3C afterwards makes you as annoying as Tohno's 2C.
- j.236X, the A version can be tk'd into a great air recovery trap after her third C rekka, e.g. The B rekka is simply godlike.
- Her damage. Although not the strongest character in the game, her damage is pretty good. But you have to combo hard to reach a 5000.
- The counters are awesome as they HIGHLY confuse the opponent if you confirm one at random. If you trained enough and have a quite good reaction, you can easily drop off a good 3500 dmg combo afterwards.
- 5A all day.
- Color 5. THIS IS MINE. (This applies to all styles though)

Contra:

- Her airthrow/throw. Aww, I tend to use throws because I'm used to it, but I regret it everytime I do.


Even in all objectivity, this character is awesome. :psyduck:
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 13, 2010, 10:44:26 AM »
Rowanism: You should add that to the MBAA wiki.  That's some really good info.  How do you use rekkas for shields, and can you explain more about A rekka into j.236?

Speaking of good F Ryougi's, here's Leo's F Ryougi again -- great match at the end.  In the video he pulls off a standard BnB that does roughly 5k, and a weird new corner combo.  All around good stuff.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12721522
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2010, 11:01:37 AM »
I think what what he's saying about the j.236a is a 236b236b236c tk.236a techtrap. Isn't that third c rekka chargable for an unblockable too?

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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2010, 11:13:15 AM »
Yeah, the last part is a charged unblockable, but you can tech out of the third hit of the C rekkas.  I'm kind of confused by that.
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2010, 11:38:02 AM »
I think what what he's saying about the j.236a is a 236b236b236c tk.236a techtrap. Isn't that third c rekka chargable for an unblockable too?
Yes, that's what I meant. Because the j.236A is delayed a bit and has slightly more hitframes (afaik), it's good for a wisely used tech punish that wallslams.

And no I won't add this to the wiki because it's just stuff that I like and dislike about her. Not the facts.

I noticed btw that you can connect a simple combo after picking up your knife when the enemy is knocked down after a 2C or 3C or something.
Basically, it's 2C 22A 2A 236C. This makes you trip the opponent, pick up the knife, hit otg with 2A and connect the 236C. This works, although the damage is crap, it's somewhat cool. :V
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2010, 11:41:01 AM »
Makes me want to see if knife pickups mid combo are possible for C.

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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2010, 12:16:23 PM »
And the longest corner combo I know of is this:
5B 2B 5C 236B 236B 236B 2B 5C 214C j.B (whiff) (land) 2C 3C 22A 2C 3C tk.236B (land) j.B j.C j.B j.C j.236B

It is possible to connect another 214C after the knife, but it's incredibly hard, since the enemy must be high enough in air or the j.B whiff won't whiff the first hit.
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 25, 2010, 11:05:14 AM »
Mikado 2on2 videos -- Great match vid of Leo using F Ryougi at 2:58 and C Ryougi at 20:03.  I went  :slowpoke: at what he does at the 23:48 mark.  

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12850616

Part two

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12850713
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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 25, 2010, 12:33:30 PM »
I went  :slowpoke: at what he does at the 23:48 mark.
That was the 421c glitch Rei mentioned earlier.

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Re: MBACC Ryougi Discussion Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 26, 2010, 11:39:41 AM »
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12850713

17:12

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