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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2009, 06:33:06 AM »
I don't have exact numbers now but using C-Ryougi:

2a5bb2b5c2c6c TK j236c land jbc djbc airthrow

does more than

2a5bb2b5c2c6c jbc djbc j236c

in the corner. So if you don't mind the little extra effort to input a TK, you can get about 100 more damage.

And regarding using 214c in BnBs, I find that it does less damage than a normal meterless BnB. Maybe you can use it when spacing is not very favourable?
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2009, 12:22:35 PM »
More corner combos (tested on a standing v. sion)
2a 2b 5bb 5c 2c 22a 5b tk 236b j.bc dj.bc 236b 4795 dmg
2a 2b 5bb 5c 2c tk 236b 5bb 214a j.bc dj.bc 236b 4940 dmg
« Last Edit: August 27, 2009, 01:30:37 PM by Nandeyanen »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2009, 02:53:39 PM »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2009, 02:38:16 AM »
C-Ryougi combos a friend of mine figured out.

w/knife anywhere [2A] 5BB 2B 5C 2C 22C 2C 5C j.BC dj.BC airthrow - 4839 damage, 1 EX

w/knife corner/near corner [2A] 5BB 2B 5C 2C 22C 2C 5C j.BC j.236C land neutral-j.BC dj.BC airthrow - 5436 damage, 2 EX's

w/o knife corner [2A] 5BB 2B 5C 2C 2369B 5BB 214A j.BC dj.BC airthrow - 4927 damage
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2009, 06:06:58 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRMv_SgOiI

C-Ryougi combo movie.

More likely to be a guide video though.

Anyway I really don't care about the tiers: Ryougi's combo is the nicest stuff I've ever seen.
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2009, 01:00:05 PM »
Here are some more combos, I'll update the damage later.

Loop combos
2a 5b 2b 3c [2a 2c 3c]x6 5c j.abc dj.bc j.236b 5836 dmg (can be done anywhere on screen afaik)
2a 2b 5b 3c 2c 22a 2c 3c [2a 2c 3c]x5 5c j.abc dj.bc j.236b 6044 dmg (corner, lose your knife)
2a 2b 3c [2a 2c 3c]x (some amount) 5c j.abc dj.bc 236b
[2a 2c 3c] x (some amount) 5c j.abc dj.bc 236b
2a 2b 5c 3c 623b 2c 3c [2a 2c 3c]x (some amount) 5c j.abc dj.bc 236b

Other combos
2a 2b 5b 3c 2c tk j.236b 5bb 214a 5bb j.bc dj.bc 236b
2a 2b 5b 5c 3c 623b [2c 3c 623b]x2 2c 3c 5b 5c j.bc dj.bc 236b
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 06:57:27 PM by Nandeyanen »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2009, 06:48:56 PM »
C-Ryougi vs. Aoko corner combos

2AB 5BB 5C 2C 6C TK236B jBC djBC throw = 4546 damage (meterless)

2AB 5BB 5C 2C 22C 5C TK236B jBC djBC throw = 5156 damage (100% meter and knife), 5280 damage if ending with j236B
Can be done from mid-screen if you use IAD236B instead of 5C, after 22C, as long as they don't hit the wall first.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 08:48:10 PM by Enacra »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2009, 01:19:32 PM »
F.Ryougis 5B 2B 5C 236B(b-rekka launch) 2B(very hard to time when you really want it to hit, someone help me more with this...) 5C jbc djbc airthrow seems to do 4500k ish of damage to me when it says 4.8k damage on the thread. Was looking on the first page if this thread btw. Why does it do 300 less of damage, am I supposed to 2hit with jump B?

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2009, 11:12:16 PM »
Depends on who you did it on. Different characters receive different damage. If you want the best way to compare, do it on characters who receive 100% damage like Aoko, Sacchin and WLen.
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2009, 01:14:21 AM »
Test your combos on Sacchin.

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2009, 11:03:17 AM »
Depends on who you did it on. Different characters receive different damage. If you want the best way to compare, do it on characters who receive 100% damage like Aoko, Sacchin and WLen.

Aoko is the only character with 100% for first half of life bar IIRC. I don't remember Sacchin or Wlen ever being that good for damage testing actually. Nanaya is really close to 100% for second quarter too, and I usually use Nanaya.

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2009, 01:54:04 PM »
yea, i feel compleatly lost here. i played GG for ever and all i can manage right now with H-Ryougi is 6aaa>5bb>jc>Jbc>jc>Jbc>J236b/c
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2009, 02:25:33 PM »
i messily updated the first post so that combos are a little less hard to find but shit is still all over the place but whatever. i've got f-ryougi on lockdown, the combos i listed are more or less what anyone needs to know, although there may be some potential in H-F Blade's find that you can connect fryougi j.B after slide. i'd imagine something like slide jump cancel j.b j.c (j.236b/c?) land j.bc dj.b(1) dj.c j.236b might be possible, although one jump cancel kind of limits things here. and yes you only get one jump cancel, you can jump after 22c because it's not a jump cancel, and kusanagi isn't proving anyone wrong, get yo shit together.

anyway c-ryougi players i wish you luck in finding good combos because h-ryougi is looking like a better character right now with better combos that build a ton of meter that ryougi is really good at using for bullshit arc drive and fuck yeah she has parries to shield punish with.
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 07:56:43 AM »
Misc C-Ryougi combos

Standard BnB
2a 2b 5bb 5c 2c 2a j.bc ad j.c dj.bc air throw 4357 dmg
2a 2b 5bb 5c 2c 6c j.bc ad j.c dj.bc air throw 4220 dmg

Corner meterless
2a 2b 5b 5c 2c 2368b 5bb 214a j.bc dj.bc air throw 4734 dmg
2a 2b 5b 5c 2368b 5bb 214a j.bc dj.bc air throw 5113 dmg

Corner 150 meter
2a 2b 5b 5c 63214c 8c 6c 8c 6c 8c 4c 5b 5c j.bc j.bc air throw 5776 dmg
2a 2b 5b 5c 63214c 8c 6c 8c 6c 8c 4c 5bb 214a j.bc dj.bc air throw 5755 dmg

Midscreen 150 meter
2a 2b 5b 5c 63214c 8c 6c 8c 6c 8c 4c 5b 5c j.bc dj.bc throw 5573 dmg (if you're directly next to your opponent, you'll need to start the combo with 2aa for spacing)


H-Ryougi Combos

Standard BnB
2a 2b 5b 5c 3c 623b 2c 3c [2a 2c 3c]x2 5b 5c j.bc dj.bc air throw

Combos tested on V. Sion
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 06:56:32 PM by Nandeyanen »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2013, 03:43:55 PM »
I'm brand new to Melty Blood and sprite based fighters in general. I am good at smash brothers and Naruto clash of ninja and my friend and I decided to learn Melty Blood

I'm feeling like a complete idiot because I cant do this combo string with any consistency at all
5BB 2B 2C 5C jc j.B j.C jc j.B j.C j.4/6A+D
i always drop it at 5C jc with a miss, although the move does come out.

I broke that part down to just 2C 5C jc and i guess i just dont get the timing of pressing C here because I can only get it if i hold 2 and then mash C while going 2, 5, 8 with certain timing. I can SOMETIMES get it if i hit C at least 4 times through the course of trying to get these 5 hits. What should my timing be here?

also could someone clarify the notation? it looks like theres a manual jump at jc and jc and the J.C and J.B notations are automatic or animation jumps and not actual jumps? thanks.

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »
That's bad notation, honestly. 5BB 2BC 5C j.BC dj.BC[4A+D/6A+D] is probably more clear. You jump cancel 5C's recovery and do j.B, then j.C. Then you double jump cancel the j.C and basically do the same thing. And then you do the airthrow.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 04:14:40 PM by Sashi »
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2013, 03:55:46 PM »
oh wait so in this case jc is jump cancel? and I've been trying to link a move that really doesnt link? lol that makes me feel better.

Maybe you could brush up the wiki for h-Ryougi in case there are any other mistakes http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Melty_Blood/Shiki_Ryougi/Half_Moon

thanks so much I'll work on it more now that i know the right combo...

about the timing, should i be trying to press the next attack button as the current one connects in the animation?

thanks again for the quick response! nice to see an active community :)

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2013, 04:01:28 PM »
Different moves have different cancel windows, but in general, a little after hitstop should be fine. Especially for Ryougi, who's notorious for having biiig cancel windows.

It's not really a mistake. It's just different systems of notation.

EDIT: That's the wiki for MBAACC, though, and this is the forum section on MBAA.
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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2013, 04:03:41 PM »
I understand if you dont want to edit it but your notation is whats in the glossary of the wiki, and I just spent over an hour trying to link 2C 5C to J.C :) oh well at least i know now. thank you so much again, I'm having a much easier time with it now.

Edit: Oh. Well I didnt realize and I'm playing MBAACC. are the move sets really different? I was able to do the full combo once in about 70 tries or so, and at first i was doing good at least linking 2C 5C to the first J.BC but now I'm having trouble again. I'm going to pick it back up tomorrow and maybe I'll find the timing again. And thanks again, and I'll go to the MBAACC forum in the future
« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 04:45:12 PM by gr3yh47 »

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Re: Ryougi combo thread
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2016, 12:51:36 PM »
probably a little late to help you out, but if anyone's reading this with the same issue then (at least in MBAACC) you can chain the 5C to a 6AA j.BC (H-Ryougi, if you haven't used a 6A or a 5A in the combo yet) or 22A (delay) 2A 5BB j.BC (H and C-Ryougi)  If you find timing the 2A tough you can just skip to the 5BB for less damage.  hitting the jump combo off of those is much easier, and it'll net you more damage

Yes, I know this is a MBAA forum section, but i'm a CC player who was led here looking for Ryougi combos on google and most of these still work for me, so I doubt I'm the only CC player using this thread to learn ;D