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Offline Tonberry

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1.07 FTohno
« on: January 03, 2012, 12:03:49 AM »
Changes I've noticed since console
+ 623b hits crouchers
+ All of his EX moves OTG relaunch  :laffo:
-/+ EX cancel point on 214a/b delayed.  They can no longer be instantly cancelled into 236c to keep your opponent in blockstun.  If they're around midscreen you can OTG relaunch and push them into corner though.
- 6b doesn't launch nearly as high as it used to
- 6b 2[c] is no longer airtight
- 623c damage nerfed

Quote from: Previously in Console
Optimal corner IH BnB is (jc) 5b 2b 5c IH dash 5b 2b 5c 623c 5a 5c jb jc jabc airthrow.  ~7.7k vs Kohaku off jc starter.  7227 damage off of 5b starter.  6173 damage off of 2a before 5b.  6119 damage off of 2a before 5b with dash 2a after IH instead of dash 5b.

and now, +doing 5b 5c after 623c instead of 5a 5c
off jC starter vs Kohaku - 7078 damage. 
off 5b starter - 6444 damage.
off 2a starter - 5533 damage.
off 2a starter, dash 2a - 5540 damage.

new IH bnb is replace 623c with 623b IAD jc land 5b 5c air combo
off jC starter vs Kohaku - 7611 damage
off 5b starter - 7001 damage
off 2a starter - 5704 damage
off 2a starter, dash 2a - 5695 damage

Quote from: Previously in console
2a, 5b, 2b, 5c, 623c, 5a, 5c, j.bc, dj.bc, airthrow = 5392 damage vs VSion

now - 4867 damage(5b 5c instead after 623c)

Thanks to new CH system
+ 2[c] CH IAD ja/b/c all combo
+ After 2a 5a whiff 5b(CH) dash 2a combos(bit tight)
+ 5b CH 5b combos
+ 2aaa 5b(as fast as possible) 2b(CH) dash 2a combos(bit tight at this range but closer its freee)
+ 2a 5a(whiff) 2a(CH) 5a(whiff) 5b combos
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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 05:16:34 AM »
Apparently all moons of Tohno got the 22c change, but F shiki seems to have a harder time comboing his 2c after 22c midscreen on most chars now. I'm not sure if its just me messing up and accidentally partial charging it.
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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 01:26:22 PM »
2[c] OTG relaunches so you can do it after slide  :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreEbpxWCg4#t=7m44s
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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 09:34:40 PM »
Oh man Tonberry thanks for showing that 2[c] 623b because I tried to do the 22c 2c over and over and didn't get it to hit consistently. But now you can do 22c dash 2[c] 623b j.c land j.bc dj.abc at.

While were on the subject of 22c id like to ask what the optimal meterless combo off 22c in the corner would be. Iv been using either 22c 5b 5c j.bc d.jabc at.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 09:59:32 PM by Adviceowl »

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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 06:59:25 PM »
little beginner tutorial by myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckskybe7z50
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 07:31:10 AM by Fish »

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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 12:18:24 AM »
I'm having trouble with his IH combo if I start with 2a (getting 5B starter to actually hit in a real fight doesnt work out for me so I gotta start with 2a)

but the combo is 2aa5b2b5c IH 5b5c 236C 5b5c j.bc dj.bc AT

If I start with 2aa, the 5c after the IH wiffs in the combo, Should I dash after IH because 2aa is pushing me too far away? or am I just messing up the timing? Maybe I should remove the 5b after IH and just 5c by itself before I go into 236C? Am I even making sense? all this algebra in my fighting games.  :slowpoke:
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 12:20:06 AM by HQ-Zero »

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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 01:08:32 AM »
I'm trying it right now and I can connect it point blank without any dash. Make sure you IH on the first possible frame. Any further than point blank and you probably need to either start with dash momentum 2AA or do a quick dash after IH.

EDIT: By the way, you do more damage with just 2AA 5B 2B 5C IH 5BC 623B IADj.C 5BC j.BC dj.BC Airthrow. Or the easier 2AA 5B 2B 5C IH 5BC 623B 2A 5BC j.BC dj.BC Airthrow. Both do noticeably more for not too much effort. Also 2AA 5B 2B 5C IH 5BC 214C 22D 5BC j.BC dj.BC Airthrow.

EDIT: Actually, try 2AA 5B 2B 5C IH 5BC 214C 22D 2C 623B j.C j.BC dj.BC Airthrow instead.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 06:30:00 AM by Sacchin 22A »
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Re: 1.07 FTohno
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 09:55:26 AM »
I'm having trouble with his IH combo if I start with 2a (getting 5B starter to actually hit in a real fight doesnt work out for me so I gotta start with 2a)

but the combo is 2aa5b2b5c IH 5b5c 236C 5b5c j.bc dj.bc AT

If I start with 2aa, the 5c after the IH wiffs in the combo, Should I dash after IH because 2aa is pushing me too far away? or am I just messing up the timing? Maybe I should remove the 5b after IH and just 5c by itself before I go into 236C? Am I even making sense? all this algebra in my fighting games.  :slowpoke:

If you want to increase your damage, ideally you would do dash 5b 2b 5c after IH.  In addition to all the combos the post above me suggested blah blah IH blah blah 5c 623c 5b 5c jb jc jabc airthrow also does more damage then the one you're using. 
[01:08] <Komidol> that marisa cosplayer that took my registration was sexy
[15:24] <Rokunaya> i've actually reached the point where some voice actors sound familiar in animes
[22:40] <bellreisa> i'm an insane murderer who is overwhelmed by nihilism but that's ok cause i'm in love