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The Diaspora => Tournaments and Events => : HRGS|忍 April 05, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
When's Melty on Steam?
ahaha that's no--wait, what?
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OVERALL RULES:
- Saturday July 10th - BYOC @ 12pm signup/1pm go time.
- $10 a head ($30 a team)
- No same character teams. At all. No excuses.
- Moon phase change on win is LEGAL. I do not care.
- Make sure all 3 members of the team are present before you begin your match. This is also enforced when you register.
- No A:E. Console only + Necos is fine.
- 80/20 split.
I'm gonna need some help confirming some TVs for setups (need like 4 maybe?), a laptop w/ tournament maker on it, and some streaming equips (optional). Let's make this live gentlemen!
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>:( >:( >:(
Add CT/MA to the EC list. Nao.
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Sounds hype as fuck.
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You probably need to split up EC.
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I think you could run 16 teams; EC definitely needs to be split imo. EC could be split into New England, NYC (Sp00kyland), NJ/PA, MD/VA. And AZ stands alone, motherfucker! You could also argue that the Pacific Northwest and Canada should have their own teams. I would also argue for splitting up Japan and Europe because jesus fuck I don't want some JP players carrying EU players to a win and then hearing about it from those nitwits.
So here's how I see it:
1) NYC
2) NJ/PA
3) New England
4) MD/VA (or you could move PA here too and leave NJ standalone)
5) Soufeast (NC/AL/TX/LA) -- Texas may be able to be split off? NC as part of MD/VA? I dunno
6) Midwest (IL/OH)
7) SoCal
8) NorCal
9) AZ/NV
10) Northwest (WA/OR)
11) Japon
12) Canada/EU (Canada and EU split?)
13) rand()
...fuck, three short. :|
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10) Northwest (WA/OR)
<3 thanks for mentioning us
op is jerk >:( >:(
I've got 3 including myself, i can find 2 more players and TRAIN THEM IN THE TIME CHAMBER by EVO
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sounds cool, i like dippys team ideas.
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Cool.
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As hype as this sounds, I think 20$ a head is a bit much. People are already paying 30-40 for venues plus another 10 for the main event (And other tournies). I mean you got New England over there bitching about 10 dollar venue fees for on blast.
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I would also argue for splitting up Japan and Europe because jesus fuck I don't want some JP players carrying EU players to a win and then hearing about it from those nitwits.
lol
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$20 is shit in Vegas.
I like this :3
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ladies and gentlemen lets get ready for WoofCoastWarzone
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would i be cosidered PA/NJ or MD/VA? cuse im like in this place called Delaware aka Delawhere? and boy that would suck the i wouldn't be able to get in cuse of being in DE..
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Of course a split in EC would have to be done now that I see what the hell I did on the first post. What I would HAVE to do now is just raise a question for ONLY 3 states to have a team of its own. Cali (split in 2), NYC, and ????
If I run 16 teams (which seems to be the general concensus now thank you Dippy), it will have to be single elim. 5 man teams on a double elim bracket is hell and I don't wanna have people sitting around waiting on losers matches. $20 on single elim is a bit steep, but its Vegas people; you get that shit back in no time if you lucky. I have no idea what the schedule looks like for Evo and if we even have room on the floor to do this. Can someone confirm if we can use the BYOC for shit like this (if you've done shit like this before).
I'll make 2 wild card teams if 16 is the case. Can you imagine that it's going to be $1600 on the line here? Who said we couldn't do shit big. Now who bettin' dat house note against JP? =D
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It shouldn't be too hard to get three more teams. The midwest is pretty large and not just limited to Ohio and Illinois.
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Vegas could pull its own team. We have four competent members right now, and potentially 3 or so others that could make the final spot if they train up.
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Assuming enough members are in attendance team truckulance should be the wild card/random team.
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Vegas could pull its own team. We have four competent members right now, and potentially 3 or so others that could make the final spot if they train up.
4???? Come now LoliSauce. You have 5 with me or did you forget about that? We technically only need 1 more for Vegas. There is plenty of time to get our 6 together.
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I think this is a great idea, but how about we revive the Melty Cup idea from 2008?
3v3 pokemon style
no same characters allowed (this also applies to same character, different moon styles)
$25 a head (Face it, we're in the big leagues.....in Vegas...quit being cheap)
Eh?? Ehh????
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Fuck that 'no same character' noise, there's no point in not allowing people to run the same character on a team.
:teach:
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i actually agree with no same chars, but idk how different moons should work.
i think same char different moons should be ok imo.
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What's the point of not letting people pick the same characters on a team, even if it's the same moon?
Like if Spooky and Nightroad wanted to team up, they can't because......?
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I'm ok with no same characters. Same characters with different styles is a little more open-ended though. I think same character team battles should be a small side event on a separate timetable like how it was at Evo '08. It was actually quite fun. It would be ideal to have 3v3 each player using a different style but that's going to to be difficult if not impossible to find people that use a character's underused styles. ???
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I don't like this no same character rule either. This is an event to show who has the best region right? If so then i don't think there should be a rule on no same characters
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yea pleas dont discriminate against twins
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I respect diversity but if your region really does have 3 H-VSions to prove you are the best, then fine. CHICAGOOOOOO...!!
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Same char rule is cool, different moons should be counted as diff chars though. So stop crying and work it out. To many people like to ride top tier anyways.
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Who cares what they like to ride? Learn how to play against top tier then.
There is no reason you shouldn't let people rock the same character more then once or twice on a team. At all.
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Fuck that 'no same character' noise, there's no point in not allowing people to run the same character on a team.
:teach:
What's the point of not letting people pick the same characters on a team, even if it's the same moon?
What's the point of LETTING people pick the same characters on a team, even if it's the same moon? Last time I checked the point of team tourneys were for character variety and complementing bad match-ups. This doesn't help if we have teams with 2 or 3 H-V.Sions, C-Mechs, F-Miyakos, (insert top or low tier character). Looking back on it, allowing same characters/different moon styles should be cool, but same characters/same moon style is pretty wack...especially for something as big as this regional battle.
Honestly, the only reason why the same character rule even work in team tourneys for MB is because no one takes the team tourneys all that seriously to begin with. This could be saved for something like a same character team tourney you guys pulled off back in EVO 08 or something.
I don't even mind if this is a 3v3 or regional battle, that's whatever. Regardless of the format though, same characters/same moon styles would be wack as hell for something big as this event can *potentially* be.
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This isnt a team tourny. This is a region vs region tourney to see who's da best. You feel good beating a region forcing them not to play their best? The only problem with same characters anyways is H.Vsion. Really how many people from a 'region' play the same character? Its really only Sp00ky and Nightroad. Otherwise theres quite the diversity in the scene.
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Last time I checked the point of tournaments at all were to win, not something to use as material on my Melty match up resume.
It being 'wack as hell' isn't a valid reason to not let people run the same character, even with the same moon on the same team.
There is no real reason you should keep people from doing this.
Are you saying you and Zar play alike one another? You sure as hell don't. Big shit it's the same character.
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So much bawwing! :psyduck: I personally like the "no same char" rule, but its w/e I dont really care either way.
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Last time I checked the point of tournaments at all were to win, not something to use as material on my Melty match up resume.
It being 'wack as hell' isn't a valid reason to not let people run the same character, even with the same moon on the same team.
There is no real reason you should keep people from doing this.
Are you saying you and Zar play alike one another? You sure as hell don't. Big shit it's the same character.
Who said anything about building up a "Melty resume"?
It being 'wack as hell' isn't a valid reason. I never said it was. My reason was because team tourneys promotes character variety and help out with bad match-ups. Unless there's another reason I'm not aware of, isn't that the biggest reason why the no same character rule is enforced in any other game you play at...at any other tournament you attend?
Where have I said anything about Zar and I playing like the same in this thread? I don't even know what you're getting at by saying that?
So much bawwing! :psyduck: I personally like the "no same char" rule, but its w/e I dont really care either way.
It's better to get something like this out of the way now as opposed to trying to solve it the month, week, or in FRXIII's case...day of the event.
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If having 2-3 H-VSion's on a specific regional team their definition of "character variety", I don't care as long as they are the only/best to represent their sect. The ONLY thing I DO NOT approve of is switching characters. Moons are fine, I don't give a fuck.
One of the wild cards I have in mind are an all (insert character here) team so if I'm doing that, everyone else is fair game. That is the last I'm speaking on this argument.
When I get ahold of a map, I will do my best to split up the regions to a position where you will be satisfied where ever you are. I will allow Vegas to have their own team since they are the home team. So that means that NY, Cali, and Vegas have their within-state teams. I WILL ACCEPT ONE MORE AND THAT IS IT! Hopefully from the South (NC) or EC but it depends on if you niggas can discuss the matter like gentlemen. The other 12 teams will be regional which means that there MUST be atleast 2 states represented in said teams. If you have a suggestion that your state should steer away from a region, it better be good. I don't wanna hear "we beasts so we need to be our own team" shit. That's why Bama isn't making one of our own. :'(
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d:7)
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Just a random 2 cents since I doubt I'm good enough even for the midwest illinois/ohio team or whatever it's going to be...
Yes, team events do outlaw same characters to encourage character diversity, because it needs to have some kind of limiting factor to make sure no one makes the team of 5 of the best players of the best character.
But this 'region vs region' type of tournament already has the limiting factor of region, so limiting the 'no same character' rule isn't quite as necessary as it would be if it was just a 'make a team of any 5 people you want to make a team with'.
It really depends on the spirit of the tournament I suppose on whether or not to outlaw same characters.
If you want just the straight up 5 best players from the region then allowing the same characters facilitates this, though most of the players that would be considered for these teams can play another character at a high level anyway.
A 'regular' team tourney would enforce the no same characters no problem, that's a gimme... but with a region v region type of event.. it's not really the same type of tournament and as such not quite as cut and dry as to whether to do it or not.
Edit: It's always the tournament organizer's call in the end anyway, as long as they're clear about it one way or the other at least.
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I agree on a "no-same-character-not-even-a-different-moon" unless there isn't enough variety within a single region that would otherwise allow the creation of a full team. In other words, if the best players in a region (however they go about deciding five members) have at least one overlapping character, they should just pick the best player for that character and pick another member who uses a different character to round out the team.
Unless of course, there aren't enough players to make a five-man team, at which it point it should be allowed for all regions to have overlapping characters. Moons and everything. Like someone said earlier, it'd be a little silly to ban similar moons but not ban two of the same characters.
Which do you prefer? Do you want the best overall players from a region, or the best overall characters from a region?
The real problem is coming up with a five-member team; something that'll probably be done (for some regions) right before EVO itself. But at least for now let's agree upon a single format for everyone: ban all or ban none.
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Who said anything about building up a "Melty resume"?
You are.
You're treating team tournaments like a game of bingo. Team tournaments aren't their to promote anything outside of hype for your team, and enjoyment of the game. There's no need to push for character variety. There's no need to push for anything of that sort.
It being 'wack as hell' isn't a valid reason. I never said it was.
You said that shit was wack twice, obviously you think it's a strike against it.
My reason was because team tourneys promotes character variety and help out with bad match-ups. Unless there's another reason I'm not aware of, isn't that the biggest reason why the no same character rule is enforced in any other game you play at...at any other tournament you attend?
It's some retarded rule that's gone unwritten because SRK's been riding the coat tails of Japan since forever. They don't even play for money, and you're here worrying about how much 'character variety' and 'bad match ups' you'll get out of the tournament? That's something you work on, that should never be the role of a tournament. It's a plus to gain from entering, but never it's purpose.
Where have I said anything about Zar and I playing like the same in this thread? I don't even know what you're getting at by saying that?
Who's going to rock a team of 3 F-Ciels? Are there any actual V-sion's worth mentioning outside of Spooky and nightroad at this point? Even on 3v3 this rule makes no sense. There's 85+ characters in this game and we're worrying about 3 V-Sion's? Pffft, Evo is going to be so full of upsets it'll be a midday spanish soap at this rate.
I doubt anyone who's actively been in this scene since even last August is suddenly going to turn tail and run to the 'top tier', regardless of region. Even if some wild card un heard of team does it, good. There's no need to limit anyone for who they want to play or why.
:P
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Don't limit people's characters, ESPECIALLY if this is a regional tournament. That's fucking dumb. You want each person's best character, best moon, and best play right for this tourney? Then don't do that shit.
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remander that team w/ like 5 nanayas
real talk that owned
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Hrm... I live in Pittsburgh so... Does that count as midwest?
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remander that team w/ like 5 nanayas
real talk that owned
Wild Card team #2 nanaya team
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south is what, southeast, midsouth, southwest (aka AZ)?
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Where have I said anything about Zar and I playing like the same in this thread? I don't even know what you're getting at by saying that?
Who's going to rock a team of 3 F-Ciels? Are there any actual V-sion's worth mentioning outside of Spooky and nightroad at this point? Even on 3v3 this rule makes no sense. There's 85+ characters in this game and we're worrying about 3 V-Sion's? Pffft, Evo is going to be so full of upsets it'll be a midday spanish soap at this rate.
Honestly the only reason I can see 3 *insert characters here*, if allowed would be because they were buddy buddy with each other and/or just didn't give a fuck. Sort of like how H-F and I team up at NEC9 and Mizuki/Hal teamed up. Other than that I'd ask the same thing? Who'd rock a team of 3 ANYBODY if there's...oh I dunno...only 85+ characters in the game? I wouldn't unless I intended it to be a joke or something.
This all I'm going to say about this because this is ultimately up to Shinobi and if he wants to allow same characters then that's fine, but all I'm saying is that do really we NEED to allow repeat characters since there's 85+ characters? I could see allowing repeat characters more so if this was bigger...like a 23 on 23 or something like that, but a 5 on 5? I'm still not even sure why everyone is name dropping V-Sion and Spooky/Nightroad as if I'm solely talking about them. This could apply to anybody in any region with any character. I mean, I would imagine if some region happened to run into something like multiple people playing a same character and wanting a spot they'd find a solution to see who's worthy of that spot (I.E. play for it).
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I dunno y you niggaz care anyway about this same character stuff this shit about to be fray for da dirty SOUF. Me/brandino/shinobi/pfhor and one more random nigga. Nobody fuxin wit the souf, that team already winz without a 5th :(.
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I dunno y you niggaz care anyway about this same character stuff this shit about to be fray for da dirty SOUF. Me/brandino/shinobi/pfhor and one more random nigga. Nobody fuxin wit the souf, that team already winz without a 5th :(.
:mystery:
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ill be the 5th since someone has to rep lousiaiana
if voomer goes tho, ill give my spot up to let him rock instead since he deserves it more than i ever would
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Bellhaus has got this. get tossed fools
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damn doren trying to troll hard...don't get it twisted.. south is solid. LIKE A BAR OF SOAP!!!!
also if peeps wanna run triple vsion.. then let em do it... ill body that shit fray then...damn why so hype!!
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Every person in the tournament has to use a different character/moon combination. Anyone toting character variety that doesn't get behind this is a fraud.
Edit: I'm serious. 80 people(assuming 16 teams of 5), 87 characters.
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Every person in the tournament has to use a different character/moon combination. Anyone toting character variety that doesn't get behind this is a fraud.
Edit: I'm serious. 80 people(assuming 16 teams of 5), 87 characters.
The chances of it happening is highly unlikely...
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He's not saying leave it up to chance, he's saying enforce it as rules.
It'd be the biggest troll fest ever.
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Southern All-Stars has been decided. Me/Doren/Brandon/Pfhor/Voomer all day. ALLLLLLL DAAAAAAAY!!!
Butters: Yes the Midwest is pretty broad, and you are in it.
Warpticon: Southwest is w/ WC this time around. The South in this case does not go further west than Texas.
Final Team Roster:
West Coast - NorCal/SoCal/Vegas/1 multi-state team
East Coast - NY/Higher EC (Jersey/MA/PA/Philly)/Lower EC (VA/MD/Delaware)
South - NC (granted they are in full force like at FR)/2 multi-state teams
MidWest - 2 teams; split between IL (left MW - 1 team) and Indiana (right MW - 1 team)/1 multi-state team (KY is considered MW in this case)
Foreign - Japan (granted they come 5 deep)/1 multi-national team (Canada/EU/Mexico/Netplay-land what's good)
Wild Card - Console Characters! 1 team consisting of one, some, or all of the console characters of AA! NAC/Ryougi/S.Akiha/Mech and Neco/Mech and Kohaku.
Grand total - 16
It may be less then more put in due to some things, but 16 is where it will stay. I don't want byes flying around for the all-Ryougi team. Give them 5 fags some steam, they'd prolly roll with it. If you have any questions about something on that list that's off, blame my geography teacher. Other than that, if you decide to confirm a team in your region, I need your 5 best NO MATTER WHO THE FUCK THEY PLAY! All confirmed teams should be PM'ed to me and sent no later than July 2nd.
Remember, this is winner take all for $1600. That ought to put some flames under your ass.
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You're giving Vegas their own team (what have they even done? They don't even travel anywhere!) but you want Arizona to compete with space with Texas and OR/WA?
Fuck. That. I'm tempted to convince everyone in Arizona not enter out of protest.
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I gave Vegas a team because they are the home team. Texas is with the South and the only people that you are having to compete with for spots is Oregon. You can pick up just 1 person from them and it'll be straight. Otherwise, the way I see it, Arizona is probably taking up most of the "multi-state" spot anyway so wins here?
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Southern All-Stars has been decided. Me/Doren/Brandon/Pfhor/Voomer all day. ALLLLLLL DAAAAAAAY!!!
Butters: Yes the Midwest is pretty broad, and you are in it.
Warpticon: Southwest is w/ WC this time around. The South in this case does not go further west than Texas.
Final Team Roster:
West Coast - NorCal/SoCal/Vegas/1 multi-state team
East Coast - NY/Higher EC (Jersey/MA/PA/Philly)/Lower EC (VA/MD/Delaware)
South - NC (granted they are in full force like at FR)/2 multi-state teams
MidWest - 2 teams; split between IL (left MW - 1 team) and Indiana (right MW - 1 team)/1 multi-state team (KY is considered MW in this case)
Foreign - Japan (granted they come 5 deep)/1 multi-national team (Canada/EU/Mexico/Netplay-land what's good)
Wild Card - Console Characters! 1 team consisting of one, some, or all of the console characters of AA! NAC/Ryougi/S.Akiha/Mech and Neco/Mech and Kohaku.
Grand total - 16
It may be less then more put in due to some things, but 16 is where it will stay. I don't want byes flying around for the all-Ryougi team. Give them 5 fags some steam, they'd prolly roll with it. If you have any questions about something on that list that's off, blame my geography teacher. Other than that, if you decide to confirm a team in your region, I need your 5 best NO MATTER WHO THE FUCK THEY PLAY! All confirmed teams should be PM'ed to me and sent no later than July 2nd.
Remember, this is winner take all for $1600. That ought to put some flames under your ass.
So there's going to be a all NC team and 2 southern region team assuming NC comes out like they did at FR?
Hmmm....Am I eligible to be on team wildcard?
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So there's going to be a all NC team and 2 southern region team assuming NC comes out like they did at FR?
Hmmm....Am I eligible to be on team wildcard?
Nigga you are not playing Ryougi. You're not even in NC team. You are on gdlk Souf team. Yes you are.
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So there's going to be a all NC team and 2 southern region team assuming NC comes out like they did at FR?
Hmmm....Am I eligible to be on team wildcard?
Nigga you are not playing Ryougi. You're not even in NC team. You are on gdlk Souf team. Yes you are.
But I'm NC though...:(
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^---- real talk
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Southern All-Stars has been decided. Me/Doren/Brandon/Pfhor/Voomer all day. ALLLLLLL DAAAAAAAY!!!
voomer doesnt know if he will be able to go
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I gave Vegas a team because they are the home team. Texas is with the South and the only people that you are having to compete with for spots is Oregon. You can pick up just 1 person from them and it'll be straight. Otherwise, the way I see it, Arizona is probably taking up most of the "multi-state" spot anyway so wins here?
Oregon? There's like, one player from Oregon. The rest of us are from WA. :-\
I have 3 players guaranteed going (including myself), 1 other who is guaranteed going and training up right now, and 1 player from Oregon who I've yet to speak to but I know for 100% sure is going to EVO.
So no, we are having to compete which is kind of bullshit since AZ and WA are nowhere near eachother when looking at purely the WC.
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I am not a nigga.
I do not want to be in a garden full of them.
:|
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Hoh, so I get to team up with Japan... so good :3
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Hoh, so I get to team up with Japan... so good :3
yeah i heard they were looking for a mascot~
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what, you mad son. :<
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yeah i failed auditions
good luck, make sure you jump around alot
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I'd laugh if Kusanagi was on the JP team by some act of god and they decide to send him first every set...and he'd OCV everyone.
UPSETSSSSSSSSSSS!
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I'm pretty sure Evo in general is going to massively full of upsets considering how horrendously little match up experience any of us have, let alone of you who don't have experience period.
But then that's what I'm looking forward to.
:teach:
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I'm pretty sure Evo in general is going to massively full of upsets considering how horrendously little match up experience any of us have
Some upsets maybe...not all though. I think a good majority of the upsets will just come from certain people losing to people they're absolutely think they shouldn't lose to. With the amount of play people are going to be getting in at EVO (Anyone who's hungry enough anyway) lack of match-up EXP just sounds like a cop-out. You can tell when someone gets outplayed...match-up EXP or lack of.
let alone of you who don't have experience period.
I'm just going to assume you're talking about people who DON'T have match-up EXP and EVO will be their first tourney/first time playing anyone beside training mode and AC netplay.
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Yo, honestly I'm cool with region teaming with AZ. We're both desert coast, after all. I just thought we needed more teams, and I didn't know if AZ would be cool with teaming up or whatever. Dippy, get am me and we'll talk about it.
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I think that if we used this Regional 5 on 5 shit as an exhibition to show people how hype melty is, just for publicity's sake, it may be good to limit same characters in a team to 2.
I understand that it kinda takes away from the "purity" of the ruleset, but I think it'd be great to show EVO and SRK a bit more of the game. Besides, I don't think any team will field more than 2 players with the same character.
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Oregon? There's like, one player from Oregon. The rest of us are from WA. :-\
I have 3 players guaranteed going (including myself), 1 other who is guaranteed going and training up right now, and 1 player from Oregon who I've yet to speak to but I know for 100% sure is going to EVO.
So no, we are having to compete which is kind of bullshit since AZ and WA are nowhere near eachother when looking at purely the WC.
Sure you're not nowhere near each other, but you're both WC on a map. Also, I have no idea how that scene up there is like so apologies for getting you mixed up with Oregon. Now since Loli understands the situation a little better (sorry about the mixups earlier), I'll have Oregon/WA and AZ/Vegas teams and that'll be it for WC. That's 4 teams for you right there.
That being said, if anyone else has a problem, please tell me. I am always open to suggestions.
I am not a nigga.
I do not want to be in a garden full of them.
:|
Don't come to Evo then, you'll let the weed smoke out. Fucking square. :3
Hoh, so I get to team up with Japan... so good :3
I was so on the verge of laming a multi-national foreign team because of this. JP and THE netplay warrior. Assssssssssssss.
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Just a thought but, I was thinking back to last year's EVO when they did the 5-on-5 region thing. It was more interesting to me as a viewer because it gave me an idea of what all the different matchups were like, rather than the expected Ryu vs Balrog kind of stuff. Matches like SabrE vs Valle come to mind.
I think it'd be fun and inspiring to watch from an audience's point of view if there was more variety within the teams rather than just seeing (potentially) five of the same characters just grinding it out. Gives a bit more perspective and a overall feeling of the game, rather than watching the same character being played over and over.
Looking ahead, it might be in our best interests to use this chance to inspire more people to try out Melty Blood, ensuring a future for the game competively in tournaments.
...Unless some of you are planning to drop the game after EVO is done and over... :psyduck:
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Who's in charge of console char team?
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Oregon? There's like, one player from Oregon. The rest of us are from WA. :-\
I have 3 players guaranteed going (including myself), 1 other who is guaranteed going and training up right now, and 1 player from Oregon who I've yet to speak to but I know for 100% sure is going to EVO.
So no, we are having to compete which is kind of bullshit since AZ and WA are nowhere near eachother when looking at purely the WC.
Sure you're not nowhere near each other, but you're both WC on a map. Also, I have no idea how that scene up there is like so apologies for getting you mixed up with Oregon. Now since Loli understands the situation a little better (sorry about the mixups earlier), I'll have Oregon/WA and AZ/Vegas teams and that'll be it for WC. That's 4 teams for you right there.
That being said, if anyone else has a problem, please tell me. I am always open to suggestions.
That sounds good for us then. Thank you :)
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I take it there will be another tournament after this called Nigga's Garden Sigma?
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I definitely don't think all the west coast should be mixed up together, there are too many communities and we all have multiple players from our scenes we want in the tournament. I think a good solution would be to split up EC and WC and drop wild card and foreign, since most of the jp will probably opt for SBO instead.
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remove foreign player team
bet u no japs going to evo now
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To be honest I think we'd be better off with a 3v3 deal anyway, this whole region deal isn't all that hype now that I think about it.
:P
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To be honest I think we'd be better off with a 3v3 deal anyway, this whole region deal isn't all that hype now that I think about it.
:P
haters gonna hate..
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my only real concern is that single elim is kinda shady when beginning brackets is NJ vs NY, winner plays winner of Bellhaus vs South
the tourney idea started out as a really SRS BSNS regional contest with harsh filtering that would have been exclusive but it's now become more of an open team tourney with the massive numbers allowed to play in this format. i don't have a problem with that
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I am 100% behind making sure no one plays against their own coast first round. I will randomize/float when needed to make sure that doesn't happen. Now you're not being granted that if both teams make it to like 3rd round or some shit.
I need to start a poll anyway since I've bugged myself to do it. Yay, been made poll.
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I take it there will be another tournament after this called Nigga's Garden Sigma?
As long as it isn't Nigga's Garden X-2.
Edit: As far as the poll options go though...
IF it could happen (And I doubt it will)
But running an 8 team US regional exhibition as well as an 4 or 8 team non-us exhibition.. and then have the winners play each other?
That final match could get real hype.
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Put DE with MD/VA.
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If Japan can't make it b/c of SBO/quals then I'd say just add another wild card. What happened with getting that Korean Ciel over here? I guess it's kind of a non-issue with SBO maybe but yeah, we were going to help that dude out.
Nigga's Garden Sigma would need a boob jiggle mechanic.
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I think a huge single elim would be the most fun. The most crazy upsets and random raging comes out of single elim. lol
Everyone's pretty srs bsns about it though, wanting it to be mad high stakes and shit, so smaller amount of teams with double elim is probably necessary for accuracy reasons. We can just start combining closer regions together until we have whittled it down to a small enough number. If we go that route, I think international should be allowed one combined team (if we have enough in attendance to actually make one), but wildcard teams should be out. Teams should be prepared well in advance to the actual event, in this case.
If we're going just 8, the teams could probably be set up like:
West coast north
West coast south
Desert coast
Dirty south
East coast north
East coast south
Midwest
International
Some things I'm unsure of:
-If not enough people RSVP for the Intl team, what would it be changed to?
-Are the scenes in the South or Midwest big enough to warrant a split?
-Exactly how many people are we allowing per team?
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US only, 8 team thing sounds pretty cool. Smaller teams, more at stake, make people play for spots, get owned.
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why U.S. only? i wouldn't mind of japanese team or euro team in there...
also VA/MD/DE let's go!! (even though there's like one DE member) but HEY! dreams can come true!!
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Well if a team of international players can not be completed then why not a wild card team being selected. As far as preparing the teams shouldn't it be done fair and have each region host a tourny where each of the members are chosen by the top slot winners of the region tourny. Also in my opinion I think 5 man teams would be awesome and make things interesting.
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imo wildcard teams sound kind of dumb. they take players out of the general pool to create a team that will just lose in the first or second round of elims. if we want this tourney to be high stakes/elite it should be 8 teams double elim, if we wanna just let everyone come play for fun it should be 16
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Well for wildcard you can take the top 5 or 6 players from other regions who did not qualify to get into their respective teams and set them up as wild card. And I know there would be 7 other teams and you might say well we can't take the top 5 or 6 because that leaves either 1 or 2 players out. But if you assign a captain for wild card have them select the other players in the team I say it makes better sense but thats my opinion on these things.
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Seems the general concensus is 16 teams. If we can have a promised 80 players to fill it out, we can make it happen. Another thing I have to ask is, how many international players are planning to make Evo. I'm a little scared that if we don't have much out of country players, there would be no international team so I'd be splitting up too much of the country for this fight to fill team spots.
Also, I was snooping around WC community threads and there was talk about QUALIFIERS for their respected team(s). I believe we should enforce that.
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Also, I was snooping around WC community threads and there was talk about QUALIFIERS for their respected team(s). I believe we should enforce that.
That's fine and all that WC wants to hold qualifiers for THEIR regional team, but it isn't something all *16* teams/regionals should have to do if they don't want to. I mean I'm only speaking for NC since we're getting our own team and all...lol, but we more or less already have our team set.
Personally, 16 teams sounds too excessive for a "regional battle" considering that there could be some teams with players who aren't in their respected regions or even the possibility of 16 teams of 5 players not even happening. If you ask me a standard 5v5 or 3v3 would be much less of a hassle.
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Well yeah, you don't need to if you have 5 people to make up a team. I have to try and make a list of those 16 teams soon. Just gotta think about it some more.
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International team, let's go ! :3
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Shin, if this shit's going to be 16 team single elim craziness, I don't really think I want to be dropping quite as much money on it, to be honest.
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why can't it be 16 and still not be high stakes..? obviously there is more skill out there than just the 8 teams that cats were going with....
also people complaining about money at evo in vegas.. come on people you know that in the end you gonna be spending a little doe
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I'm not really liking 16 team single elim either. 16 teams is already wishful thinking if we're talking in regional terms and 5v5.
As time goes on, it's becoming even more of a hassle to decide what regions will get their own teams, which ones will be shared, and the format. I'm inclined to say this would be better off as 3v3. :\
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I'm not really liking 16 team single elim either. 16 teams is already wishful thinking if we're talking in regional terms and 5v5. Last year for the SF4 regional event, there were only 5 or so regions and we all know how big SF4 is. If SF4 can't get 16, can we really expect Melty to get that many?
As time goes on, it's becoming even more of a hassle to decide what regions will get their own teams, which ones will be shared, and the format. I'm inclined to say this would be better off as 3v3. :\
SF4 could've gotten A LOT more than 16 teams easily for a *standard* 5v5, but I doubt he would even bother to try and come up with more than 7 regions and a wildcard to split up.
If we're seriously going to have 16 teams then we could split it up with 8 regions with each region having no more than two teams MAX.
(http://www.kidney.org/about/images/usMap550px.gif)
1) Norcal
2) East Coast (NY, PA, NJ, CT, MD, VA, DE, MASS,)
3) South East (NC, SC, GA, MS, AL, FL, TN, KY, AR, LA)
4) Northwest (WA, OR, and Norcal)
5) Midwest (OH, IN, IL, IA, MN, WI, MO, MI)
6) Southwest (Socal, NV, UT, CO, AZ, NM, TX)
7) Wildcard :mystery: :mystery: :mystery:
8) International JP, CAN, MEX, EUR
The format was taken from the SF4 regional event and you can check the map yourself to see how I split the regions (yeah I missed some states, but whatever). Not saying this is final or anything, but at least should be considered.
Edit: Reason why I put Norcal by itself is because Norcal could *possibly* form it's own team and team with WA/OR if they choose and why I put Socal with Southwest is because Socal, in it's current state, would not be able to form a team by itself... :mystery:
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International Team :mystery:
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remove foreign player team
bet u no japs going to evo now
International Team :mystery:
You're too good for teammates. :V
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Heh. It looks like the problem here is that the randoms that wouldn't get in an 8-team tourney are voting up the 16-team options while the players that organize things/top players want something else. Obviously, if you leave it up to the majority, people that otherwise wouldn't make it into the tournament would want in.
I voted for the 16 teams myself, for the same reason.
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Well, I don't mind the number of teams, I just think that big money + single elim randomness is going to cause a lot of rage. Especially among the top players who are seriously expecting to take all that money.
Also, 16 teams at 5 people each is a grand total of 80 players. Do we actually have 80 serious, competitive players that will be showing up for this?
Anyway, it's not like I'm opposed to going 16 man, single elim. I think it'll be fucking hilarious and probably full of ridiculousness. I'm just stating random concerns as I think about it from both angles.
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Due to my own doubt about this thing having full on support (due to lack of entrants/participation and in the chance of my absence from Evo), I'll slim the thing down to either a 16 team cap 3on or an 8 team cap 6on (both equaling 48 players). I'm leaning towards 16 teams, to allow that everyone gets in where they fit in. I'm also cutting the entry fee to $10 a person. Being from the same region/state doesn't apply here as much, since most of you would be teaming with the people you fucks with on a regular basis.
Also, just for fun, I would like for those 48 players to participlate in a FREEEEE 24v24. Playground rules ofc. Sp00ky and Bell team captains?
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Due to my own doubt about this thing having full on support (due to lack of entrants/participation and in the chance of my absence from Evo), I'll slim the thing down to either a 16 team cap 3on or an 8 team cap 6on (both equaling 48 players). I'm leaning towards 16 teams, to allow that everyone gets in where they fit in. I'm also cutting the entry fee to $10 a person. Being from the same region/state doesn't apply here as much, since most of you would be teaming with the people you fucks with on a regular basis.
Also, just for fun, I would like for those 48 players to participlate in a FREEEEE 24v24. Playground rules ofc. Sp00ky and Bell team captains?
16 team cap 3v3 plz.
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people play in WA/OR? like socal, norcal may not have enough serious mbaa players to form its own team at evo either.
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Let's just do it 16 at 3v3 then. I'm good with that and it seems to solve most problems like smaller regions trying to set up a team.
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Or we can do....
California (There's maybe 5 players if you're lucky that can hang with how EC is right now)
WC thats not CA (AZ/Vegas/WA)
South (Bama, NC)
EC (NY, NJ)
Middle of fucking nowhere. This includes Texas, and whatever else
North America that's not really America (Canada, Mexico)
Europe
Wildcard (aka people are like "WHY ISN'T SO AND SO ON THE TEAM!")
Japan is banned because they'd obviously win (No offense for not allowing japan in)
This also makes it to where the fucking tourney doesn't possibly end up like NEC7 TMNT TF tourney. We want this to have the best players, fuck I can't even name 16 good players from America off the top of my head, let alone 48. If I wanted to play "lets spot the decent player out of a slopfest" I'd watch joybox vids
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people play in WA/OR? like socal, norcal may not have enough serious mbaa players to form its own team at evo either.
This could possibly bring Qaenyin and Veteru out of their caves and I'm sure Norcal and scramble 3 somewhat decent players who could team with them.
A standard 3v3 would get rid of most of the problems and to the people saying we want the best players to show up to this...I'm pretty sure the best players will enter this regardless unless they had no intention of going to EVO in the first place.
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I'm pretty tired of having to lead shit honestly. Can I just play?
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Forgot to mention, cap is off. Niggas play who you with.
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IF we have a free 23v23, I officially dub Chibi and Woof as the team captains of the dig. Ya dig?
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ok
i have no bias
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IF we have a free 23v23, I officially dub Chibi and Woof as the team captains of the dig. Ya dig?
damn that shit sounds pretty epic. At least 23v23... Just get the people we know together for a huge team fight
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Chibi can't go.
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Yeah I have to start selling some stuff in hopes of going, lost my job recently so ;p.
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Start selling your body.... like myself ; ;
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me & miz then
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Sorry to hear about that Chibi, I'm barely hanging on with my 2 jobs now lol. If Miz is willing, lets get it. Both of you should do a match to determine who gets 1st round pick.
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woof vs me biggest slopfest ever but sure
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Can you single enter
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Ok if niggas didn't get the memo, this is just a 3v3. Same ol' rules ya'll niggas know the drill. Get your team assembled ahead of time though. We'll do this on Saturday at a time where mostly everyone can be available for a few hours.
We can grab a few TVs from somewhere and get this done right? Someone who has been to Evo before, please gimme some insight on where we can do this.
Also, I haven't forgotten about dat GDLK XXvXX between woof and Miz. Ya'll niggas fight (irl) to see who gets first pick. No money involved. Just straight hype.
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You'll need to have people get up early and secure some of the BYOC TVs. Last year Side tourneys got run in the main room but off to the side (Rio's Ball Room was the location). As long as you secure TVs (don't let DarkGeese take them all for KOFXI 10-entrant tournaments) you should be good.
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Yeah you're going to need people to secure tv's, early.
Also Im going so Im taking my position from Miz.
:3
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Good. Fucking. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Chibi.
I'ma need you guys' help to secure TVs for Saturday. Also, fee is $30/team. Need everyone's money upfront and all 3 players present to register.
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people play in WA/OR? like socal, norcal may not have enough serious mbaa players to form its own team at evo either.
Yup, there are a bunch of us up here. We are currently having ranbats in our region to see who should represent. Currently, it looks like Me, MissedFRC, and a nigga named Joe are going to represent the Pacific Northwest if it is 3 vs 3. But we have a lot of other people who can come join us if it becomes 5 vs 5. Sadly, Veteru has been on hiatus from Melty Blood for some time now. He will go to EVO, but I believe it is to destroy people in Blazblue CS, not in MBAA.
Myself and another friend will be at EVO a day early to check out the scenery, but i will be up for some games if anyone is interested.
Btw, I vote 16 team 3 vs 3. :) 16 team 5 vs 5 would be awesome! But I think that is asking too much.
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Dark Geese isn't going to Evo this year, so don't worry about that guy, but securing the TVs as early as possible is still a good idea.
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Updated first post. Need help that is specified on said post.
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me and king lowtier need a 3rd anyone down? me = h koha klt = c mech
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So why can't we have Different moon-same character teams?
Spidey Miz and I were going to form Team Roamance, with C/H/F-Roa; and it was going to be awesome.
Do you really have to ruin my dreams like that?
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Shinobi, need help running this?
Also I still don't have a team
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I have no team and am currently a free agent. Please PM me if interested in picking me up!
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I need a team myself.
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I'm free as well if someone needs a 3rd to compete or w/e :toot:
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Any help is appreciated Rei. Thank you.
Since there is a desperate need of 3rds for multiple teams, I'll add an extra hour to signup for people to find decent teams. Games will still start at 1, but I'll take signups as early as 11am. Coren, if you guys REALLY did have that team already planned, I'll go ahead and make it happen. I'm only doing it because I owe it to Spidey to pick me up from the airport tonight. Also, that team does sound beastly.
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I wanna do commentary with woof for some top8 matches.
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Alright team roamance is goooooooooo!!
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I have no idea what team I'll be on. Put me down as a free agent.
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Arlieth, lets find a mech player and be team characters that people hate.
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Yo, Team Roamance; I'll be wearing a Straw fedora / trilby for identification.
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Free Agent
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For all who didn't catch it, top 3 were
1: Brandino (f ciel), Shinobi (h arc), Kusanagi (h aoko)
2: Garu (h kohaku)
3: Bellreisa (f w.len), Nas (f ryougi), Lord Knight (h kohaku)
I don't have the bracket to post full results, nor do I remember the team names. Maybe someone will remember to post them in the results thread.
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i wasn't on lk's team, that was zar. my team was hf/yat/me and we got 4th.
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I have the bracket, since it was done on my laptop, but Silent Shinobi should also have a copy. I'm sure he'll post up results as soon as he can.
Props to everybody who entered, too. Was hella hype.
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Videos are going up on Youtube right now; I have the teams playing but I have no idea where in the bracket they are.
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I'll help you out, Dippy. Here's a screengrab for the bracket as well as the player list.
http://imgur.com/OrIcA.png
http://imgur.com/4Dpw4.png